#the kwami are slaves

[princess-of-the-corner]

Imagine if Marinette tried getting her Tikki to talk to Emonette's Tikki to get her to help them flip the villains to heroes, but Tikki just goes 😬 'that won't work. I would suggest murder a lot more often if that was an option you would consider, my alternate is just helping her Weilder reach her goals like I do with you'

Marinette is mildly concerned.

[miraculouslbcnreactions]

@grimharuspex in the comments of that @zoe-oneesama post said it the best; Butterfly should’ve been Emotion and Peacock should’ve been Desire. I know that Zoe has a limit on what canon she changes for her comic which I respect/appreciate given the thought she puts into it (even when canon’s various nonsensical magic rules are especially grating like this) but how do you think things would’ve gone in-show if this was the setup from the get-go? On that note, do you think it’s a good setup for canon in the first place? Why or why not?

This is going to be a rather long lecture on lore and world building and how the peacock fails on every level, so before we get into that, let's start with the positives. I saw a few people pointed out the Desire idea - that being that the peacock's associated Force should have been Desire while the butterfly got Emotions - and I think that they're absolutely right. That one tiny change does fix the surface level issues and make the peacock make sense for its larger role in the narrative.

It would complicate the whole magical slave thing and also mean that you probably have to rework a few of the minor sentimonsters, but generally speaking, it makes way more sense for Desire to birth a fully realized human being. The sentipeople being people while also coming from a single emotion will always be total BS in my eyes.

At the same time, I blame no one for just sticking to canon's lore. Reworking the lore is a serious thing and even I only do it when I'm telling a lore-heavy story. There are plenty of stories where I just stick to canon's nonsense because the lore isn't important.

Now that we've done our positives, let's getting into the negatives! The issue of the day is this: changing the Force from Emotions to Desire doesn't solve the larger problems with the peacock. Problems that we'll now get into. Buckle up, this is gonna be a long one.

Issue 1: Power Diversity

While I would not call myself a superhero expert, I have seen a good deal of superhero and magical girl team shows in my time. Most of you probably have. If you think about the power sets that we see in those shows, then you'll notice that one thing is pretty much always true: every power is unique OR the powers are all closely related in some way. You never do both because the two concepts don't mix. It makes no sense for half of the characters to have totally unique powers while the other half have copies unless there's some sort of special thematic reason for this like siblings sharing a power.

Without that sort of explanation, it just feels weird and it also makes the characters feel redundant. You don't need two speedsters or two supermen! One is enough. Heck, Avatar the Last Airbender takes place in a world where whole civilizations have the same power and they STILL didn't duplicate powers for the core team because they understood that it's important to keep the characters unique.

Miraculous is pretty obviously supposed to be the type of show where the powers don't overlap. Every character gets a unique power that's uniquely suited to them. We even have this confirmed in universe during that confusing scene in the episode Destruction where Orikko - the rooster - tries to explain how his powers work:

Orikko: No, you're mistaken! Time travel is Fluff's power and I can't grant the power that already belongs to another Kwami!

This brings us to the problem with the peacock: it is not a unique power. It's derivative on multiple levels.

Derivation Level One: Akumas

The first and most obvious level is how similar sentimonsters are to akumas. In terms of how they're normally used in the narrative, they're pretty much the exact same power to the point that you literally can't tell which one you're dealing with until someone tells you. The narrative uses them interchangeably with some episodes using an akuma, some using a sentimonster, and some using both.

In fact, I thought that it was really weird that Gabriel didn't switch to maining sentimonsters back in season four. You had akumas breaking their bonds left and right, which is a thing that sentimonsters literally cannot do, making them the obvious fix to this new problem.

To really highlight the whole "indistinguishable power" issue, allow me to highlight some dialogue from Kuro Neko to show that this is very much an in-universe problem:

Cat Walker: You think that's Cat Noir? Ladybug: Of course it's Cat Noir! He must've been akumatized because he regrets having given up his Miraculous!

Ladybug: You'll see once we deakumatize him. (She runs towards Kuro Neko.) Cataclysm his bell, I'm sure that's where the akuma is! Cat Walker: Hang on! (follows her) Ladybug, what if that's a sentimonster? If I use my power on him, he'll lose control and become more dangerous!

Cat Walker: (cringes) What I mean is you're right to doubt, and I agree with you. Until we know for sure whether we're dealing with a sentimonster or someone who's been akumatized, we shouldn't make any brash decisions. (Kuro Neko leaps away.) Let's find out more.

This sort of confusion should be impossible unless it's the result of clever planning by the villain, but that's not what we're dealing with here. Kuro Neko was not about Gabriel tricking the heroes. He sent out a normal sentimonster having no idea that Chat Noir had just quit. And yet Ladybug had no idea that this was a sentimonster. She looked at it and saw an akuma.

Cat Walker also didn't know that it was a sentimonster. He just knew that it wasn't Chat Noir, which was probably the only reason that he thought to question Ladybug and warn her to be cautious. They only realize that it's a sentimonster once they learn that there's a child inside it.

This is canon accidentally telling us that akumas and sentimonster are just straight up indistinguishable unless you see then made or do some experiments to figure out what you're dealing with. That's not a good look if your claiming that each miraculous grants a unique power. It is, however, a great lead in to the second power that the peacock copies: the power of illusions.

Derivation Level Two: Illusions

I said above that it should take careful planning for a sentimonster to be confused with an akuma. While we never see that type of carefully planned setup, we do see sentimonsters used to successfully impersonate humans on several occasions. One example is the episode Optigami which gave us SentiNino and SentiAlec. Seemingly perfect clones of Nino and Alec who did whatever Shadow Moth told them to. We even see a scene where Shadow Moth is telling SentiAlec exactly what to say.

You know who else gives us this type of scene? Rena Furtive in Rocketear:

Ladybug: You said that if Nino could have heard what you were saying, there'd be no misunderstanding? Rena Furtive: Absolutely! Ladybug: How well do you remember what you guys said on the balcony? Rena Furtive: Every. Word. Ladybug: Do you think you could make... a sound illusion? Rena Furtive: Totally.

Is there any doubt in your mind that the peacock can do anything that the fox can do? What's even worse is that the peacock does illusions better than the fox! Fox illusion vanish in a puff of smoke if you touch them. SentiNino was real enough to wield a miraculous because he was a fully corporeal illusion that would have kept on going if he hadn't been snapped away. This brings us to derivation level three: the power of creation.

Derivation Level Three: Creation

The peacock doesn't just outshine the fox, it outshines the ladybug! Lucky charms vanish as soon as Ladybug detransforms. Sentimonsters last forever. The ladybug is only useful in battle as it requires a super villain to cast its cure (which is asinine, but let's not get into that here). The peacock can be used at any time. The ladybug doesn't give you what you want, it just gives you a puzzle to solve. The peacock can fulfill your deepest desires and even create life.

Outside of the extremely specific circumstances that the show gives us - aka an ongoing battle with a super villain - the ladybug is kind of useless. If you want the power of Creation, you're going to use the peacock. This brings us to our second main issue: power balancing.

Issue Two: Power Balancing

The ladybug and the black cat are supposed to be the two most powerful miraculous in existence, but it really doesn't feel like that's true. Sure, if you put them together they rewrite the universe, but that's not part of their individual base power sets. At an individual level, they don't actually feel all that powerful when compared to the butterfly and the peacock. It's more like Marinette and Adrien are smart enough to make their very limited powers work while Gabriel and Nathalie are dancing along easy street and making fools of themselves with every step.

I've mentioned before that I can forgive the butterfly's overpowered nature because this is an episodic show. They want each episode's fight to be unique and interesting and so we have to give them room to have one power set that should be an insta-win card, but isn't because plot.

I can give them that grace once. I cannot give it to them twice.

There is no reason why both the butterfly and the peacock need to feel more powerful than the supposed most powerful miraculous in existence. I've even talked to one person who is rewriting canon with the assumption that the peacock and the butterfly ARE the most powerful ones because they are! Nothing proves this better than the fact that they've both made creations that can copy the powers of the ladybug and the black cat (see: Copycat, Strikeback, Ladybug, Sandboy, Miraculer, and probably a few others that I'm forgetting).

They're also the only miraculous that don't require an active user. You can create a sentimonster or an akuma, then detransform and have a snack while your creation does whatever you need it to do. That's so incredibly broken and such a terrible move in terms of power balancing. Either have all of the powers require active users or, at the very least, have more of a mix of active and passive powers. Why do Mirage, Shelter, and Lucky Charm vanish when their caster's detransform while akumas and amoks stick around? There is no in-universe logic to explain this. It works this way because that's what the writers needed these miraculous to do. A fact that makes it impossible to get invested in the lore of this show.

When designing a complex magic system, you generally don't want "because plot" to be the only answer to why things work they way they do. You want your magic system to feel real and organic to the world. That's how fictional worlds come to life! If Miraculous' magic system was well designed, then you could take it and use it to tell a wildly different story set in the same universe, but you can't. Everything about it is designed around making canon's story work and not around making an immersive world that you can almost believe exists.

There are stories that I wouldn't hold to that standard, but they're mostly short form stories. Anything as big and complex as Miraculous needs to have a solid lore system backing it or else you lose all sense of stakes. A great example of this is the Bunnyx problem where you know that she can show up at any time and reset the timeline even if things are happening in her own past, so why do we need to worry about bad things happening? And how are the ladybug and the black cat the most powerful ones when you have nonsense like time travel and the power to create human-like creatures? Early canon lore was decently solid, but the longer the show goes, the more nonsense the lore gets and that makes me sad because I love good lore.

Some Final Thoughts

You may have noticed that I didn't really talk about the sentikid issue in this post. That's because my dislike of the peacock came long before that fun little twist. While sentiAdrien is yet another great reason to dislike the peacock, it didn't need to be a thing for the peacock to be a terrible idea. Take away the sentikids and you still have an incredibly derivative and lore-breaking power set that never should have made it into the show.

I actually completely redesigned the peacock for my own rewrite which I start plotting back when I was first watching season three, long before sentiAdrein was even on my radar. That's not something that I usually do in my fix it stuff. I usually try to stick close to canon and make more minor tweaks, but the peacock is so fundamentally world breaking that I had no choice but to do a total overhaul. This is already an incredibly long post, so I won't go into that here. I'll save it for another ask that's sitting in my inbox. I'll schedule them to post back to back.

For this post, I'll just end by pointing out that switching the peacock to Desire makes it derivative of and arguably better than the pig, too, since the pig can only tease you with what you want. The peacock actually gives it to you. In fact, I'd say that the peacock may be a better pig even without the switch!

You can also argue that the peacock is better than or at least equal to the rooster and the goat because they're also just variations of the butterfly and the ladybug's power. Like there is legitimatly potential in taking those miraculous and doing an AU where each Kwami's power is an aspect of creation because the powers are so awkwardly intertwined. Probably make the peacock the master and all others spawn from that one or something like that.

Anyway, this is why you can't design powers around characters if you want good lore and a large team! You have to start with the powers and go from there! It's why I edit Nino's character to be more of a protector since that's his supposed True Force! Also because I want him to be more narratively important but that is a rant for another day.

[imthepunchlord]

Just wondering, what are your thoughts on the sentimonster Adrien theory and it officially becoming canon?

Personally, I hate it.

I hate that there's a Miraculous that can make life, and it's a life you can fully control, how they think, how they feel, how they act and what they do; and you can terminate that at a snap of a fingers.

And with the ability to make sentipeople, it's a power to make slaves.

How very miraculous...

And with this ability to make slaves/animated puppets that users can preprogram and fully control, well, I got to question everything that is Adrien.

Who even is Adrien?

Does Adrien even exist as a being and person at all? Is he just a construction working off what Emilie set up, a pretty doll to play motherhood with, her "perfect" son?

Are Adrien’s actions even his own? Is this why he gives leeway to Chloe and Lila? They work off Gabriel's agenda, and is Adrien subconsciously securing they get to continue doing what they do?

Is this why we see him hang out with Nino less? Because Gabriel dislikes him and Adrien is echoing that?

Also Gabriel wants to unmask Ladybug, is this why Adrien pushes for the reveal? Is he being subconsciously influenced by Gabriel and mistaking it for romantic love? Is this why he and Kagami date because they're influenced by their parents wanting them to, but Adrien "chooses" Ladybug over Kagami because Gabriel is so focused on Ladybug?

Everything about him is now iffy and up to be questioned.

He's also now a liability if Lila ever gets the rings that control him. And Felix now has an edge over him, and his stance on Adrien is unclear. As far as I know, he can get mad at Adrien one day and terminate him. He could even decide to make a "better" version of Adrien or entirely overhual Adrien into someone else.

This also hand waves away Adrien’s problematic choices and actions, as it can be blamed on his parents instead of him, he's an animated puppet that they influence and programmed. Potentially all his choices aren't his own. He is not his own being being. He can't learn, change, nor does he have free will. All that comes down to who wears his rings.

The biggest kicker is that, as much as I hate the concept of sentipeople, it can be done and work well. The catch is though that it needs to be treated as a serious topic, and to work with a linear story.

And it is a serious topic relating to identity/self, self-discovery, and personal freedom. These could've been really interesting to see with Adrien.

Though you need some rules to making sentipeople to make this work. Biggest one is them unable to use a Miraculous, as that's a huge glaring detail to this ability, the Guardians have no reason to pick heroes when they can just make people they can fully control to hand off Miraculous to (why, no Miraculous even needs to see the light of day as this Miraculous could just make a hero based on another Miraculous to save the day). It can be that kwami magic clashes, and only humans can neutralize it, but a senti made from a kwami can't click with kwami magic, they'll "malfunction".

So Adrien getting Cat is set up to "destroy" him as a senti, he resists and back talks Gabriel, he rebels and runaways, and Gabriel is baffled. And Adrien would be set to break down, but he works closely with the Ladybug Miraculous, and with it's magic, it starts to create as the Cat destroys, and he starts to become "alive". He starts to think independently, feel what he's never felt before, have whole new experiences and exist outside his parents. He'll become real, and he'll have to figure out who he even is.

But I rather keep him human, not a senti, especially with this shows writing quality and how seriously it's treated. It also felt tacked on then planned from the start (Adrien technically wouldn't runaway to go to school or even want to go to school, nor would he go join a gaming tournament). I also question what dies this even add as he already has an angsty set up. This is just piling more and with it, a whole can of ethical problems for what's supposed to be "miraculous".

[jealousmartini]

MIRACULOUS DR INTRODUCTION

♱⃬⋆.˚ is she the angel of darkness.. 🦇

or a slave to the dark side ? 𖤐.°

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[ # 000 :: BASIC INFO ]

Name :: Lucia R. Martinez

korean name :: Hwang Cha-Kyung

full name (I think?) :: Lucia Cha-Kyung Hwang

Nicknames :: Lucy, Lucky, Kyu

Age :: 17

Hobbies :: Fashion designer, Comic artist

Fashion style :: Goth, Rockstar, Grunge, Lolita

Ethnicity :: Puerto rican & Korean

Languages :: Korean, English and French

[ # 001 :: THE MIRACULOUS ]

Hero name :: FANG FATALE

Play on the french title :: "femme fatale"

Holder of the :: Bat Miraculous

Kwami :: Mammon

Kwami's choice of snack :: Cherries

Miraculous jewellery :: Five braid beads or a broach

I'm going through a crisis rn because I can't choose if I want the miraculous to be five braid beads on my fringe or to be a pretty broach on a bow shaped ribbon

Transformation line :: N/A

Deactivate line :: N/A

Power :: Manipulation

side abilities :: super speed, super strength, high pain tolerance, super flexibility

special abilities specific to me :: short/long distance gliding, magnetic gravitational force, (bat ears) sound barrier sensitivity,

Weapon :: N/A

side weapons :: twin grappling hook guns (transportation friendly)

Hero custome colours :: Black and Red

[ # 003 :: BACKSTORY ]

N/A

[ # 004 :: RELATIONSHIPS ]

N/A

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Other miraculous' :: Ladybug miraculous holder, Red panda miraculous holder

[redsbrainrot]

Things I hope are in season 6 of MLB

- Felix flat out having a deep discussion with marinette apologising for giving the miraculous to Hawkmoth and causing her so much pain (I feel like this was just brushed away too quickly in S5)

- If that was Emilie in the ending then obviously Gabriel saved two people, so someone else gotta go and that would be interesting to see who if that was the case

- The wish having consequences in general

- Felix and Amelié move in to the Agreste Manor

- I still want ladynoir only episodes, so can the other holders like figure out a rota or something

- Chloe redemption with Zoe’s help (far fetched I know but a man can dream)

- Zoe having a new reciprocated love interest

- Luka the same (not with each other tho… Zoe is lesbian and that is that)

- Adult Chat Noir and Ladybug (I am begging)

- Adrinette angst

- Adrien finds out the truth bit by bit about Gabriel (istg if he doesn’t I’m gonna end it all)

- Lila treating Nooro with respect (please can we actually have her be a chill villain and not treat her kwami like a slave)

- Someone said something about princess justice so yeah I’d love to see that

- “I’M BUTTERCUP????”

- Luka and Adrien bro time and bonding over how they know each other’s identities

- Adrien having to hold the urge to ask questions about ladybug and Luka being a complete tease about it

- Adrian’s Chat Noir ego kicking in when he’s flirting with Marinette

- Lila backstory

- Felix finds out Adrien is Chat Noir and they hang out with their kwami’s present

- He also tells Kagami and they just laugh about how Paris’ main superheroes are dating without even realising it

- Lila doesn’t hide in a basement when she’s using the butterfly miraculous, she actually fights her own fights with the help of her akuma’s (Gabe was so lazy come on)

- Can we see a flashback of Adrien being told his father is fucking dead

[movedtonewblog-insanekatlady]

How I would re-write/remake Miraculous Ladybug pt.1

Redesign some costumes- one thing I didn’t like about the show was the ChINeeSE MaGIk fall back it used.

I think if you are going to do something like that- go all out instead of using a rich culture and massive history as a scapegoat. So for my redesigns and re-writing I want to add more of the culture especially to the designs.

I am not an expert or Chinese so any criticism or advise is greatly welcome

I want to explore the Kwamis too. Like there’s so much that you can do with them- so I want to give Tiki and Plague some history and personality. I have the most planned for Tiki:

Instead of being some random magical creature that exists for no real reason. I would have Tiki be an ancient Chinese empress who rose to power from a slave using her unnatural and incredible luck. Even she doesn’t know why she is now a Kwami and this will add to the shows plot.

This also gives Tiki some personality. She’s hotheaded, strict, snotty, and prone to yelling. But in her heart she’s kind and understanding. I want her and Marinette to butt heads and even have large fights to grow both characters. It can’t be small moments that build tiki however due to her existing for so long so I’d expect explosive moments with her.

similarly plague would be the emperors youngest son who rose to emperor through his general bad luck to those around him. He was able to utilize his badly k for his own power basically. They’d both fall in love and rule together

It would be fun to explore how their history effected them

As for Chloe:

I think the whole fanbase agrees she’s been screwed over. I want to give her the coverage plus exploring a rich girl struggling with family issues and self identity is JUICY

For Marinette I want to explore how being a secret hero screws with your mental health. Her being so young will make it more challenging and also open up more avenues

[redtippedfox]

I still can’t believe that the Kwamis are actually ancient eldritch gods that could destroy the world if they wanted to. Like if we do get Season 6 I better get some lore on how the hell GODS became slaves entrapped in the Miraculouses. What power is so strong to have enslaved them to humans?

The only reason I’m still watching this show is for Miraculous lore and Adrienette. I want answers Zag! Give me the LORE!!!

[tumblingxelian]

a Question about you 12 kwamis au

If the others kwamis existed how would you write it?

That's rather tricky to answer cos for several of them I actually took their powers and fused them with another Kwami.

Tiger has her own powers & those of the monkey, Turtle got Bulls, the pigs got translated to Fox, even the rabbits could be said to have blended with Sass given I usually give them a subtle prophetic ability.

If we just go with the one's left over...

Rooster - Sublimation & Phasing, is the easiest to work with as it is the transition of a substance directly from the solid to the gas state. In this regard, its basically a form of transforming Miraculous, letting one become immaterial, an elemental or chemical gas, that kind of thing. It also still works with the red bird associations ala phoenixes without much work.

Canid - Hunt & Harvest, I think would need a revamp into something more akin to Hunt. IE, its the embodiment of tracking, hunting, capturing, the act of pursuit and retrieval alive or dead. Fetch is a way it can manifest, ensuring their prey is never out of reach, but it can also be used to locate and track down things without having touched them first, & so on. Tis goes beyond mere hunting dogs and into how ants have cultivated livestock and even slave ants.

Lamb - Genesis & Preservation is the power of giving and extending life, it is of the (Caveasphaera), IE, Animal era and holds the power to breath life into something or to heal. In essence, it is the "Breath of life" and healing hands, it cannot whisk life up out of nowhere, but more can create the perfect conditions for new life, imbue something with life, or heal something. The specifics are a little ill defined right now but I think this works.

Amusingly this means Lamb could be the second Miraculous Gabriel has, the one that they used to conceive Adrien but due to being broken that didn't pan out. (Makes notes) Damn, I may actually keep this revised list, Roosters now the weakest one but still has room to work even with my revized Renlings...

Here it is regardless:

Creation (Planck) Ladybug - Creation & Purification Cat - Destruction & Mutation Snake - Ouroboros & Time

Elemental (Matter) Rooster - Sublimation & Phasing Tiger - Combustion & Chaos Dragon - Storm & Power

Life (Abiogenesis) Peacock - Evocation & Transmutation Mouse - Multiplication & Duplication Turtle - Protection & Resilience

Animal (Caveasphaera) Lamb - Genesis & Preservation Horse - Action & Migration Canid - Hunt & Harvest

People (Conceptual) Bee - Order & Subjugation Fox - Mirage & Materialization Butterfly - Emotion & Transmission

Revised Bee, this is mostly just leaning on the concept of subjugation more. IE, Pollen represents people and thinking creatures idea of order more than she does elemental the stabilizing of neurons and atoms. Venom is simply the most straightforward example, utterly stilling a persons body. But at more advanced levels, the user can infuse their power into objects and guide them or compel people, so long as they use subjugation.

Notes:

Genesis was a problem because its basically just Lucky Charm with more control but less magic. Genesis means the origin point of a something, the beginning or creation, which doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room for reinterpretation or expansion. In some ways it'd fit with the theme I gave to mouse. Still, I like these other two so lets play.

I had the idea briefly to make Genesis a sort of scrying mechanic, seeing into the past and future (Vaguely), or to get meta with it and have it be among the fox and butterfly as to do with stories, giving one's words power. However, elements I have toyed with for the Bee can already fit into some of that so I was... Iffy.

Then I looked into lamb associations and themes and found out the Egyptian Deity known for incepting life was a lamb headed deity, and the creator of 'essence'. I leaned on that when reaching for preservation.

[k7l4d4]

K Reviews and Rants: Miraculous Ladybug Season 5! Episode 1

Hello all! It's been awhile since I've posted. This post is the result of a favor I did for a friend, where we both wanted to tear Season 5 of Miraculous Ladybug a new one. Normally, I try to avoid that mentality, due to finding it unhealthy... but I've been needing an outlet for some of my anger issues, and took the chance to vent!

I'll be posting one episode a day until I reach the Finale, not counting "Action." Warnings for Profanity, I got REALLY upset while doing the reviews in several places!

Episode 1: Evolution 

Okay, finally started episode 1 of Season 5 and... I already hate this shit. Seriously, leaving the stilted feeling of the dialog, several parts of this set up kinda lowkey piss me off. First off, Hawkmoth just decided to "redo" his whole "obey me, fear me, or else" moment from Origins, and it's... lame. It's not impressive at all. Maybe it's because of something with the writing, I dunno, but the dude is trying way too hard, and I just don't get where the huge crowd came from. Oh, and WHY THE HELL IS THE EPISODE CUTTING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN GABRIEL AND THE HEROES SO MUCH!? It's honestly really distracting from what's going on. Like, perspective cuts to show contrasting views can be interesting... but when you do it FIVE TIMES IN A ROW it just looks stupid as hell. 

Oh, and for some reason the writers seem to be wanting to cram as much dialog as possible into a 2 minute time frame, and it makes them sound like they are speed-reading a script. Where's the passion, the emotion!? I didn't come into this expecting to like this, but this is honestly pathetic. Oh, and FYI Tommy-boy, why the fuck would we want to sympathize with a man who explicitly calls the Kwami "not his prisoners, but his slaves"? News flash, people who unironically address other sapient beings as slaves ARE MEANT TO BE BAD GUYS!!! Blegh... I know I'm benefiting from having knowledge of what comes next, but even discounting how the Kwami come off as wet paper in terms of personality in the scene, expecting us to later sympathize with a guy who is treating them like slaves is all kinds of stupid. Oh, and him establishing that he can order the Kwami around despite having gotten their Miraculouses illegitimately shoots Miracle Queen's depiction of Chloe trying to super-charge herself in the foot. 

Okay... why the fuck is Nathalie saying "maybe there's another way" when he brings up the Rabbit Miraculous? Bitch, this is FAR from the first time he has used time travel to get what he wants and while one of those times it wasn't technically "him" who did it, he still was willing to take advantage of it. Like, why in the world are the writers including this?? Why are they trying to imply NOW, of all times, that Nathalie has a conscience. It's kinda fucking hard to do when she's been portrayed as a cold and uncaring secretary first, and a love-sick accomplice to a LITERAL TERRORIST second. Now she cares? NOW!? Fuck off with that nonsense, we don't need it here. 

Okay, seeing Ladybug and Chat trying to brainstorm how Hawkmoth could've gotten the Miraculouses only for the whole time-travel loop nonsense later to show up behind them... I just... why? Seriously, WHY!? Thomas, please explain, because I don't see the point to this. 

Okay, next up, we get the daily reminder that time travel fucking sucks in the form of Bunnyx bursting onto the scene. Also, the constant "stating the obvious" thing going on is just... how stupid do the writers think the viewers ARE!?? Also, if the episode is implying this is all a big time loop... then how come "Monarch" was able to show up in a prior episode without it immediately changing the timeline and causing Marinette to REMEMBER seeing him while being restrained by Lady Wifi!? Oh yeah, because the writers have no fucking clue how to make the nonsensical inclusion of Time Travel CONSISTENT in this stupid show!! 

Seriously, even if you take into account Bunnyx being more experienced at using the Rabbit Miraculous' powers compared to Hawky-boy, it's STILL AN ALTERATION that Marinette would've seen a portal appear behind Lady Wifi and Hawkmoth start to step out of it. 

Okay, now we get a completely needless exposition dump via Bunnyx regarding how the Rabbit Miraculous and the Burrow work... and I'm already tuning it out because this entire fiasco ignores how Bunnyx was getting ERASED by the Chat Blanc timeline, so this was all kind of a stupid diversion. 

Ugh... "it's you and me, remember" and I'm gagging. On the one hand, good on Ladybug for surrendering a bit of control in this situation... On the other hand, this scene overall just feels needless. And once more we get vaguely defined explanations on time powers. 

Okay, it's blatantly obvious that the writers are just artificially extending the drama here. There is no logical reason why in the world they shouldn't be rushing to grab as many of the Miraculouses as they can off of him, because HE IS NEARLY UNABLE TO MOVE AND CANNOT STOP THEM IF THEY RUSH. Like, they KNOW that he's only weakened so much because he's using too many Miraculouses at once, so why are they giving him the chance to correct that!? Seriously, Tommy, you do not keep drama and tension by doing crap like this. 

And Gabe demonstrates why he's a brain trust by basically stating that he is fully aware of what's currently wrong with him but thinking that shouting "I AM YOUR MASTER!!" will magically produce a different result... if this were meant to be funny, you could probably make it work, but the fact that this is meant to be a serious scene just... no. All the no. This is pathetic. It's EMBARRASSING. Do the writers seriously not get how stupid they are making him look and sound!? 

Again, why the fuck am I supposed to sympathize with a guy who is basically wasting time to throw a tantrum at his slaves/minions when he's been TOLD what's wrong and knows one of the reasons why, all in what boils down to the most selfishly stupid plot in the world? Why? What is it about this pathetic jackass that the writers find sympathetic!? 

And now we finally reach the point I fucking hate the most. See, back in the beginning, as weak as Fu's apparent reasoning on why he thought Marinette and Adrien would make for good heroes anyway was, it was still a reason... and now they are retconning it to be a "because destiny said so" moment. Fuck that. FUCK IT WITH A RUSTY SPOON!! Wasn't the entire fucking point of this whole fiasco being that the timeline gets fucked up when you interfere with events by using the Rabbit?? So why the fuck are they blabbing so much about the future? Okay, no, I get WHY, they need to be able to get to their future in the first place after all... but it's a pretty obvious double-standard in play when you show the heroes more or less ignoring the fact that they are messing with history, without knowing what the consequences will be, when that's the entire fucking reason they are trying to stop the villain in this instance. And I GET that it's a different situation, where they have no choice and are only doing it to stop Hawkmoth, who is doing all this for his own selfishness, BUT IT IS NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED WHEN THEY APPROACH FU THAT THEY ARE INTERFERING WITH HISTORY. 

I just "love" how they bring up "not disturbing the river of time" without acknowledging that this entire SITUATION was one giant "disturbance in the river of time." Ughh... yeah, if I needed any convincing at all that Miraculous is shit at handling Time Travel plots, this would do it. 

This part with Alix is... kinda corny. Like, no issue with Alix wanting to study engineering, but her going "science rocks my boat" just... CRINGE. MUCH CRINGE. Like, I get the intent, but... forgive me if I'm wrong, but have we ever gotten any indicator that Alix and her dad are this close? Also, just... having Alix's dad be read in on this entire situation in general is just... why? On so many levels, WHY!? Knowing what's coming and what he does next just... 

UUUGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. This is painful. I am drained just trying to keep my eyes open through this self-congratulatory snore-fest, and it HURTS. And we've entered the end zone of this. Props that they at least ACKNOWLEDGED that Gabriel's tunnel-vision had blinded him to his alleged goal of reviving his wife/healing his wife... but again, WHY IS NATHALIE THE VOICE OF REASON!? Seriously, the lady. Is. A TERRORIST. Heck, this entire fiasco just illustrates how poorly they've thought this nonsense through, since he HAS MADE TIME TRAVELING VILLAINS BEFORE with Timebreaker, and a future Hawkmoth makes Timetagger, so them acting as if having the Rabbit is the be-all, end-all to achieving this goal is just... (Head meets wall) I can't. I'm gonna see it through to the end, but that's where my commentary on this nonsense ends. This is stupidity. 

Uurrgghh... okay, I will bring up one LAST point. Namely, this entire plot could've been avoided IF HE HAD JUST FUCKING SAID HE WAS TRYING TO HEAL HIS WIFE!! Seriously, he has established that time travel is already something he can fucking DO with the Butterfly via Akumas, and he now has the info to repair the Peacock and send it back in time via a USB port (ignoring how the fuck anyone in the past would even be able to use it, since technology CHANGES)... this entire clusterfuck is moronic, absolutely moronic. Gabe, you are a grade-A idiot and a petty piece of garbage. If your "love" meant ANYTHING to you, you wouldn't be getting tunnel vision over a teenager baiting you. Dumbass. 

Also... how the FUCK did Nathalie somehow know that Gabriel chose to engage Ladybug and Chat Noir rather than send the USB drive? Seriously, he didn't mention turning away and trying to attack them first, for all she knows, they attacked him BEFORE he could get the intel to his past self (seeing as they never once told the heroes of their goal, the heroes obviously would try and stop them on the assumption that it's something nefarious), so in this case... she's basically just guilt-tripping the idiot for failing and blaming him for not being unstoppable with a power he's had FOR LESS THAN A FUCKING DAY. If he weren't Gabriel, I would probably hate her for doing this... nah, I still hate her, since this just highlights how much of a self-righteous twit the writers turned her into in the name of making her "sympathetic." Blech.

[gale-gentlepenguin]

Hey, remember when I asked you if you'd do a top of Gabriel's worst moments?

A N N I H I L A T E

T H I S

V E R M I N

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M E R C Y

(Cracks Knuckles)

TOP TEN WORST MOMENTS/CRIMES OF Gabriel Agreste

(And by worst moments, I mean worst things he has done in the show. I will be including the TV specials but not the Movie or Manga(as that is technically a different continuity)

10. Turning his son into a Siri

The whole thing with Alliance was super scummy, and he basically used his son's likeness in ways that are even more disturbing than in some previous cases. But with the genetic likeness he can have Adrien's face say whatever and he used this for several of his schemes, and thats pretty f***ed up.

9. Gaslighting his son in order to hide his identity

(The Collector AND Illusion)

The fact he did this twice and purposefully acted in a way that he knew would make adrien feel terrible is pretty messed up. Sure It may not seem malicious but Gabriel never needed to go that far to hide his identity.

8. Manipulating the emotions of others for his Plans

Now this is a no brainer as this is basically what he does all the time as Hawkmoth, but in several cases he does it directly or indirectly as Gabriel, usually with teenagers. Chloé, Lila, Marinette, Kagami just to name a few.

7. Creating akuma that put his son in danger.

Yanloushi, Star train, Frozer and more. Akuma that had some involvement because of Adrien and thus put Adrien in serious danger. He rarely takes precaution to make sure his son wont be in danger from an akuma attack.

6. Creating akuma that Personally target Adrien.

Gabriel has akumatized people that had a personal interest in causing adrien harm and have even targeted himself and got adrien in the crossfire. Gabriel has shown little to no remorse in doing so as he is so sure it has little matter in it.

5. Terrorism

Creating akumas that attack the city, having destroyed paris on multiple occasions and even went international, nearly causing a nuclear bomb strike to go off in NYC, to causing a city destroying monster in Shanghai. Both incidents had Adrien in those areas, while the former may have had Gabriel send Adrien home, the later Gabriel didnt realize until After he did it. He also showed no remorse for that.

4. The use and abuse of Kwami

DOES THIS LOOK OKAY TO YOU? HE KEEPS THEM CONFINED AND USES THEM FOR THEIR POWERS. The abuse the Kwami go through is shown to actually be incredibly tiring and painful for them. I will also add the wish on here because Tikki and Plagg were forced to do it.

3. The use, abuse and Murder of Sentimonsters

During season 4, Gabriel created countless sentimonsters and snapped them out of existence. Not to mention how in season 4 and 5 he used the amok of his own son like a controller to force his will on him. Felix even was threatened almost getting his amok removed as a result. Gabriel despite having a sentison, shows no love for the sentimonsters, even mocking ladybug and Chat noir for caring about them in season 3

2. Alliance and tech addiction.

Gabriel really out did himself with using technology. All of the data collection, tracking, mental manipulation and enslavement by using the Alliance ring as his master stroke to manipulate and control others. Gabriel had used the technology to even make an AI think his pilot died just to get. the miraculous. But the true evil was in the finale where he made everyone suffer from horrific nightmares and get addicted to the alliance all to turn them into obedient slaves. Unlike with akumatization where it was the users call if they accepts. The users in alliance suffer from withdrawal and are not able to properly make a decision.

1. The Abuse of Adrien Agreste

TIME TO GO BUCK WILD. Lets get the list. Neglect, emotional black mail, Physical violence, mental abuse, SOLITARY CONFINEMENT, Attempted Akumatization, Emotional abuse, and even social abuse. And before people ask about physical abuse and say chat blanc didnt happen. It did happen, if it didnt then Marinette wouldnt have had to have fought chat blanc. In a timeline, Gabriel beat his son like a baseball back with Glee

Cause this is just healthy right? A good redeemable man right there. Ignore his COWERING SON.

[theerurishipper]

Hi. I am not that smart lol when it comes to the whole senti thing and sometimes i skip episodes from miraculous so I just wanted to ask if you could clarify this question for me. If the peacock miraculous create senti monsters and the union of Gabriel and Emilie child came from the peacock miraculous and I know it's weird personally to me because before s4 he was definitely real boy and had free will I'm sure before changing retconning him in s4 . Then shouldn't the peacock miraculous be destroyed or never used because I don't really get why it's even created if such an item forces real beings with conscious thoughts doesn't matter human or not to become a slave for their master shouldn't that be obliterated.

I think a kwami is formed whenever an abstract idea is formed. I kind of find it sad that like their will is subjected by human themselves because who forced it it seems cruel like even if it more for the good I I still find it sad their being forced into that role. Like honestly I kind of wish the show went more into the lore aspect of it then the romance ya know?

In my opinion, there was nothing in the first three seasons to suggest that Adrien was a sentimonster. Gabriel wasn't obsessively rubbing his ring all the time. Adrien rebelled against his father a lot in those seasons, which goes against the idea that he was being mind-controlled all this time, especially since Seasons 4 and 5 have been trying to tell us that Gabriel has the habit of using this ring for the smallest of inconveniences from Adrien.

And yeah, I don't really think the Peacock Miraculous can really be used in a morally justifiable way. There is no justification for creating literal slaves. I've always said that it should just be destroyed. I honestly can't see any use for it that isn't a denial of free will.

About the Kwami lore, you're right. The show does try to delve into the Kwami's, but it sorta dropped that whole endeavor almost as soon as it started. And I don't mind that, since Miraculous is about romance first and foremost, but it would have been nice to see!

Thank you for your ask!

[actually-factually-anonymous]

#thinking of this#and how it correlates to sentiadrien...

Yes I was going to say: with Gabriel at least we can say that he clearly has no issue with enslaving sapient beings given that he and his wife specifically wanted a magical designer baby that came with a remote-control. So really he's still consistent with how he treats Nooroo and Adrien, perhaps if Adrien's body was freely modifiable and Gabriel felt comfortable letting him on secrets then he'd have been subject to loosing the privilege of having a mouth as well.

Still, outside of transformations I don't think there's been a scene where either Marinette or Adrien outright command Tikki or Plagg. Even during the dearest family incident. It's still obnoxious that either would use the term "owner" for themselves in regards to their little friend, but on the whole they don't act like slave-owners to them.

It's still rife genuinely disturbing implications, and if there were ever a legitimate reason to burn reality and reconstruct it to one's will using The Wish: using it to remove the slave-shackles from the Kwamis and beings like them would be one of them. But....

Actually, I'm sorry. I can't finish that sentence with sincerity. I was going for "at least Adrien and Marinette don't abuse their authority". But them being the "nice" slave owners is still an absurd defense.

I do wonder about the Tikki and Marinette owner thing. Because I definitely think that the guy who made the miraculous definitely played favorites with Tikki. Maybe Tikki herself doesn't necessarily understand that she's allowed to disagree with her original orders. In a better miraculous maybe that's a plot point for Marinette. Helping Tikki understand themselves and break free from the strict unfair orders she was given.

Honestly it's just a Thing™ with all the Kwami that they're bound to follow the orders of whoever holds their Miraculous and/or the Guardians of the Order. Like there's enchantments on them where they physically have to follow orders.

Though it seems that there's a hierarchy as Adrien can't order Plagg to reveal information because Fu said not to, and the Kwami follow Su-Han's orders over Marinette's because he's a Grand Guardian or whatever.

And Canon doesn't really....

Given the direct addressing of it, such as Marinette referring to herself as Tikki's 'owner'.

It really feels like they're moralizing it in a 'It's okay when Marinette does it because she's a Good Person™ and treats the Kwami kindly! Meanwhile Gabriel is a Bad Person™ and is mean to the Kwami so it's bad!'.

But in reality both are keeping a Sapient being that they have 100% magical control over.

[miraculouslbcnreactions]

Do you think the show would’ve been better if, instead of being based around a tangible Miracle Box and being watched over by Guardians who pick holders for them, the kwami were able to travel the world, pick their own humans and summon their own Miraculous? Why or why not? I got this idea after rewatching Origins and noticing how open Nooroo was about his abilities with Gabriel before he revealed that he was going to use the Locket Brooch to create villains, which in this scenario would mean that kwami could still become misused if they’re manipulated or tricked into giving a human their Miraculous without knowing the human’s true/full intentions.

I've previously discussed that I actually really like the concept of the miracle box and that post addressed a lot of your questions, so I'll keep this one short. I wouldn't get rid of the miracle box. I would, however, change the Kwamis' involvement in the selection process. I think it should ultimately be up to them if they accept a given Chosen and not just a call that the guardian makes, so I would land somewhere between your change and what we got in canon. A version where the guardian or even the current Chosen offers candidates and the Kwami decides if it's a yes or no.

I don't think this would have vastly improved the show, I just don't like the way that the current writing implies that the kwamis are basically slaves who are only as free as their holders let them be. That adds a pretty nasty undercurrent to the show. In some ways, this change would actually mess with the show because season five wouldn't work if the Kwamis weren't slaves unless Gabriel came up with a way to control them beyond just snagging their miraculous. But I would have preferred that to them always being slaves and we have the alliance rings which make no sense, so that fix could have been a thing without lessening the quality of the writing.

The other minor element that this chamge could improve is the guardian order issue. A full order of guardians was a bad call since we don't really use them for anything. Why add that complexity for no reason? Make Fu the only guardian or him and an apprentice and/or a former master guardian to keep things interesting. That's basically what we got in canon anyway! The Tibetan temple isn't actually used for anything, so I don't think it should exist. Everything about how Gabriel got the peacock and the butterfly is ridiculous nonsense.

[imthepunchlord]

Can we know more about your animula?

Yes!

Their term is Latin for little soul, and it's a nice little pun off animal.

They are more of what I wanted from kwamis. No mentality of children, no mob mentality when together, and no slaves of humanity. Personalities mainly work off animal archetypes as a base.

I've gone through varies ideas on what to do with them, from doing something global to something more Europe centered and working off virtues to doingan original zodiac to matbe tying them to the Arthurian legends. What has remained consistent is keeping colors and elements in mind, as well as concepts of strength, heart, mind, and soul.

I've also gone back and forth on many but 1 power to lesser but multiple powers.

Recent planning of the Bugettes has me thinking I should just work off the theme of colors, as I'll have guidelines but still be able to be flexible and creative with the idea.

I do know for sure is that I want the main focus to be gather them all questline, like Cardcaptor Sakura, Xiaolin Showdown, Jackie Chan Adventures, ect.. And as the leads were trying to gather them up, they were dealing with two warring factions that also sought to have all animula: the Dawnguard and Twilightvigil.

Bee and Peafowl I knew I wanted to be major leads to focus on, so was Cat but not a 100%.

Peafowl I wanted to go to a lead based on Marinette, as I do genuinely like her a lead, and the peafowl!Marinette design I've done with first with animula.

And what was fun is that the Peafowl anumula, who's name I still haven't found, was going to be vain, bold, and theatrical, paired with a human who in contrast is humble, has potential to show off her brilliance but doesn't really aim for it, and rather subtlety to flashiness. Claire and Renae are the two names that float around for her, and maybe she has a twin brother, maybe not.

Bee I thought to go to a Texas cowgirl, and her set up was being a lone ranger who got Bee to learn to work with others.

I've also wanted to do a lead based on Toby from Trollhunters because I really love him and felt he got shafted so hard.

And that covers the over all basics of the animula concept. I don't know if I could do it as a book series or comic, would love to, but it's always been fun to think about and explore.

[uptoolateart]

In 'Evolution' Gabriel tells the kwamis, 'You are not my prisoners - you are my slaves and I am your master.'

Basically...he treats them like he treats his son.

[almadesarrollo]

ANALYSIS OF MIRACULOUS LADYBUG. ORIGINS PART 1 LADYBUG AND CHATNOIR (PART 2, the villain and the heroes )

ANALYSIS OF MIRACULOUS LADYBUG. ORIGINS PART 1 LADYBUG AND CHATNOIR (PART 1)

WE CONTINUE WITH THE ANALYSIS.

When nooroo finishes telling the entire story of the miraculous, we have for the first time a hidden plan of who will be the villain,

We know that it is clearly Gabriel (because of the silhouette), but we see him hidden. Why is this? Because by introducing Gabriel, we are presented with Adrien's villainy, that is why they cover it up, it is a mystery who the villain is, who is hiding behind the mask, but they give us the clue with the mother's brooch, and how is it? that?

If you have been paying attention to everything that has come out of cut and deleted scenes from the movie, you will know that there is a deleted scene in which Marinette and Adrien talk, because in it, MARI has found Adrien's brooch, and gives it to him, There they have a conversation in which we see that it is the only thing Adrien has left of his mother and that it is very valuable.

Gabriel has a brooch, Adrien has a brooch, it is not a coincidence, this brooch also appears again in the collector (even though it does not have the same image)

precisely, THE FIRST CHAPTER OF THE 2nd SEASON WHERE WE ARE TOLD THAT GABRIEL IS MONARCH AND LET'S REMEMBER THAT THAT SEASON IS DEDICATED TO ADRIEN, SO THIS FOR ME IS A PRESENTATION TO ADRIEN AS A VILLAIN.

When Gabriel shows interest in absolute power, Nooroo tells him that the Miraculouses are lost and he tells her that he found him, here's the big part.

I know, this is not a big deal, but if we analyze it they are giving us a very big clue, not only are they presenting Adrien as a villain through Gabriel but he is also telling us to our face how he is going to become monarch Be careful, not the why, but the how, how is the butterfly miraculous going to reach him? You are going to find it and you have to look at it this way.

-Fu loses the butterfly brooch, Gabriel finds it.

-marinette loses the butterfly brooch, lila finds it.

A pattern repeats itself, how is Nooroo going to get to him? Adrien is going to find it, this would also mean that in the final battle with Lila, (let's remember that she officially has the brooch) at some point Lila will either lose it or Marinette will directly do it, or it may even be both Felix and Marinette and it is that, if we start to analyze the initials, F+M = they are Marinette and Felix, which would also not be giving the clue that in the final battle it will be Felix who really helps Marinette defeat him, and it would make sense since He doesn't believe a single lie.

Immediately after this, he tells him how his miraculous works, the butterfly brooch, it gives a person whatever powers they want, and he makes the decision to make villains, thus forcing Nooroo to be his slave in a harsh and cruel way. and introduces himself as hawkmoth.

Here it is simply knowing what the villain is up to, even so, we are going to add it to the scheme in due course when the series introduces us to Gabriel, for now we are going to focus only on a physical aspect of his that the series plays a lot with, look at Since it covers the face, it's different from a superhero, right? I ask, where have we seen this aesthetic?

What do all these characters have in common? that all of them in some way are related to Adrien, the one that is not with color is with attitude. It is clear that with Hawkmoth's costume he already tells us who is going to go to the dark side, Adrien Agreste (you will see when we get to season 2 hahaha)

now let's go with nooroo.

KWAMI NOOROO

Let's start with his name, notice that he is the only kwami ​​in which his vowel is repeated three times, he has "4 O".

[N-OO-R-OO]

This is on purpose, remember that in the previous post we said that he was the narrator of the story and therefore, the narrator of this story was Félix. So when you tell a story you have to present some characters and the villains, and what are they? the 4 important characters, adrien, marinette, felix and kagami, that is why the first kwami, the one that tells the beginning, the origin of EVERYTHING, has 4 equal vowels, 4 O, 4 equally important characters.

The name of this kwami ​​would be giving us the clue of those who really give depth to this story, who are really important, if we look, when Nooroo tells about the ancient bearers, precisely the book looks at 4 very important ancient bearers, if we We see well, we can see that they really use them, that they actually introduce us to our protagonists.

-1 fox: currently it is alya, through alya they tell us about kagami, so here she would be established as a best friend and future villain = KAGAMI TSURUGI

-2 cat: currently it is Adrien but we know that through Adrien they often talk to us about Felix, and we know that he is a villain so here we have the 1 male superhero felix/chatnoir=FELIX/CHATNOIR

-3 ladybug: clearly Marinette and Ladybug, she is the protagonist, she is the main heroine of this story.=MARINETTE/LADYBUG

-4 butterfly: (note that the villainous version also appears in the book) Who is the villain currently? Gabriel, he is monarch, who is his son? adrien, so it's clear, adrien main villain=ADRIEN AGRESTE

but we also have to remember that 4 is the number of marientte/ladybug according to the scheme we made, so this would once again confirm that the story is for marinette on behalf of felix.

Then we are introduced to the 4 protagonists and the 2 couples who will give life to this story.

Ok, now we go further, the name Nooroo itself descends from the African name "nuru" which means light, with whom does the light connect? with felix, but also "nuru" is a JAPANESE WORD THAT MEANS TO PAINT OR VARNISH, painting, with whom is art and painting and Japanese connected? kagami, and kagami with Felix, so this highlights even more that the one telling this story is Felix to Marinette, he has designed this story based on his diary.

LET'S GO TO YOUR PHYSICAL

NOOROO IS PURPLE How do you get the purple out? mixing blue with red, but there are also several shades, PURPLE, LIGHT AND DARK, so we have to include white and black, based on this we are going to form a scheme since each color represents one of the 4 protagonists.

so, we have:

-LIGHT PURPLE :FELIGAMI/ADRIGAMI -DARK PURPLE: FELINETTE/ ADRINETTE

then, through the color of nooroo, what are they confirming to us? that there are going to be 4 IMPORTANT MAIN CHARACTERS, ONE love story, which is made up of Kagami, Marinette, Felix and Marinette, from here 2 couples will emerge, depending on how the series evolves (what we said before when we analyzed its name)

Now what couples will come out? Well, we have clues, look.

Notice that the darkest parts are, on the one hand, the eyes, the head, the eyes, who do they represent? Argos, which is inspired by a being from mythology which was called the one with the "thousand eyes", that is This would confirm to us whether or not the felinette is the important and main ship.

In the head we see that it has a kind of line that ends in a round, if we remember, the lines represent Adrien, but here it ends in the shape of a snail, then what does it mean? That possibly Marinette is between Argos and Adrien, being Argos whoever wins the battle.

CONCEPT AND JEWEL

Nooroo represents the concept of "transmission", it means communication and expression, that is, someone who communicates, transmits, and expresses something, and of course, when he does this, HE IS EITHER ADDRESSING ONE person OR MANY, Who have we said is the What does the story communicate? Felix, what boy did we say is represented in this kwami? Félix, NOOROO TRANSMITS, FELIX TRANSMITS, FELIX IS THE ONE WHO IS READING the story.

Nooroo being the one who represents this concept gives us to understand that Félix is ​​reading it to someone, and who could it be? clearly Marinette, so this theory is becoming more and more solid, but if we explore even more, Nooroo maintains contact with Gabriel who not only agrees with Marinette in fashion design, but also in the pronunciation of her name sounds similar: MARINETTE=GABRIEL

NOOROO KEEPS IN CONTACT WITH GABRIEL=FELIX KEEPS IN CONTACT WITH MARINETTE

but not only that, hawtmoth means polilla halcon in Spanish, if we use the word HALCON in English you don't give eagle, and who is eagle, aha jess, and who does jess connect with felix, also the moths go towards the light, and Who is light? Felix, do you see it? FELIX IS EVERYWHERE.

It's more than clear, definitely, Felix is ​​reading and telling Marinette (how romantic)

Now let's focus on the jewel, we are going to divide it into 2 sections: transformation of the jewel and geometry

-TRANSFORMATION OF THE JEWEL: WE KNOW that a miraculous has a different appearance, color and shape depending on whether it is activated, inactive or when the bearer is merged with the one, the butterfly miraculous undergoes few changes, in terms of color, it remains purple, So on this side it is clear that it is more of the same, Adrien is bad since we know that purple is his color but now, the most important thing to highlight is the shape that the skywatch has, when it is activated it turns into a purple brooch, but I didn't notice the detail that this brooch is the same one where Gabriel keeps Emilie's photo and if we have said above that this brooch and Adrien's are very similar, this could be the most proof. clear and solid that Adrien is Hawkmoth, because then both would have the same Miraculous! This is the most solid clue for me, they tell us to our face.

-GEOMETRY: everything is even crazier because, ladies and gentlemen, once again THE NUMBER 5 IS PRESENTED AGAIN!!, IF WE JOIN the dots that end up in each of the petals that come out of the little girl jewel we obtain a square, a figure with 4 sides and 4 point a point in the center, just like ladybug's earrings,

so the square and the number 4 and 5 would be representative at least for now Hawkmoth (we will update the scheme later, don't worry)

and with this final analysis of nooroo we are going to end this post, we still have a lot to analyze, for now we have explored a little of nooroo and Gabriel, which is no small thing.

Before saying goodbye, I would like to tell you...do you still think that this series is poorly written and crazy without plots and meaningless dialogue? You are seeing how not, right? Everything is super well prepared, even down to the geometry and the numbers hahaha, it's brutal.

NEXT PART>>>

Well, thank you very much for reading, a hug, see you in the next post.