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hollowed-theory-hall · 8 days ago
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Isn't it a bit funny that we know about the history of Salazar Slytherin more than we know about the history of Godric Gryffindor, the founder of the house that our beloved hero is sorted in? We don't even know if Godric had children or descendants, unlike the other founders of Hogwarts. I'd seriously love to know more about Godric. But Salazar's history and legacy really did fill the audience in more than any other history of the other founders.
Like, what we know about Salazar Slytherin is also questionable. Like, the Founders lived around the 990s, a thousand years before the books. If you ever read early medieval history you know there are a lot of unknowns in the information we have. Ancient authors that wrote histories in which they made shit up, heavily biased information, family genologies where people claim to be descendant of important figures to strengthen their claims even though that connection probably isn't real, people writing thri-hand accounts as if they've been to the even themselves. Historical writing from long enough ago can be a mess (not to mention the lack of standardized spelling and words with meanings lost to time that cannot be translated).
That being said, history in the Wizarding World is weird. We have Helena Ravenclaw and the Bloody Baron at Hogwarts, two people who knew the Founders, who probably spoke Old English (which begs the question of ghosts learning new languages). There might be portraits left behind from these times, which allow a mostly accurate (if filtered through personal bias) view of history. Many of the above problems I mentioned will still exist since you're basing your information on word of mouth and not archeological evidence, but it's way better and more extensive word of mouth than what we muggles can get our hands on.
I know you asked more about the narrative and the fact that the narrative doesn't go much into the founders (especially ones that aren't Slytherin), but I think this question of why JKR wrote one thing over another isn't as interesting as how historical research works in the WW. Since I personally prefer to do Watsonian analysis over Doylist.
Becouse, for JKR, it was probably that the other founders weren't as important to the plot, or not as interesting. Which is a legit reason not to mention them. And, honestly, this is a hole in the world-building I don't mind. It doesn't disrupt the narrative and allows space for headcanons and fanon. Which is good for me. I don't mind when a story leaves some space for the reader to fill in blanks, especially when it's background details like this, which aren't actually all that important. And it's good for stories to leave out some stuff to the readers' imagination — that's part of the fun.
My best guess is that Gryffindor's name died out pretty early like Ravenclaw, who doesn't seem to have any heirs since Helena died. The Smith family are descendants of Hufflepuff. The Gaunts are descendants of Slytherin, but we don't really know about him much more than any of the other founders. Like, we don't even know if the purpose of the Chamber was really to kill muggleborns or if it's an intention that was attributed to him post mortem.
We know in the early Middle Ages the sentiment regarding muggles wasn't as negative as we see later on (after all, witch hunts wasn't a medieval problem, it's an early modern problem):
Shrewd enough to see that their Muggle neighbours would seek to exploit their powers if they knew their full extent, witches and wizards kept themselves to themselves long before the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy came into effect.
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Early medieval wizards and witches worried over muggles requesting magic from them and exploiting their good nature, not that they would be hunted down. That concern only appeared later in the Renaissance (which is when Beedle the Bard lived, btw). So there is some doubt regarding Slytherins' personal opinions about Muggles, muggleborns, and dark magic (since "Dark Magic" as a term is kinda weird. It's a legal term more than a magical one and most spells that the ministry considers "Dark" aren't so (creating Infri and Horcruxes is dark magic, but a jelli-legs jinx is not actually dark, come on). I mean, the Unforgivables only became such in 1717, so clearly, before then, public opinion was different about them and other curses).
But back to the more interesting question of how historians in the WW work. Like, do they question ghosts? Do they have archaeologists? How do they know what happened in the past? Binns isn't a thousand years old; he lived at least 500 years after the founders, so what is his source for everything about the Chamber?
Well, for this, Quidditch Through the Ages comes in clutch. The book includes an extensive section of the history of Quidditch and explains that wizard historians actually don't work that differently from muggle historians. And that their methods to find out history don't actually involve as many ghost interviews as I would've expected.
Records show that witches and wizards in Europe were using flying broomsticks as early as A.D. 962. A German illuminated manuscript of this period shows three warlocks dismounting from their brooms with looks of exquisite discomfort on their faces. Guthrie Lochrin, a Scottish wizard writing in 1107, spoke of the “splinterfilled buttocks and bulging piles” he suffered after a short broom ride from Montrose to Arbroath. A medieval broomstick on display in the Museum of Quidditch in London gives us an insight into Lochrin’s discomfort (see Fig. A).
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Early wizarding writings and paintings give us some idea of the games our ancestors played. Some of these no longer exist; others have survived or evolved into the sports we know today.
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The famous painting Günther der Gewalttätige ist der Gewinner (“Gunther the Violent Is the Winner”), dated 1105, shows the ancient German game of Stichstock.
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Scotland was the birthplace of what is probably the most dangerous of all broom games – Creaothceann. The game features in a tragic Gaelic poem of the eleventh century, the first verse of which says, in translation
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We owe our knowledge of the rude beginnings of Quidditch to the writings of the witch Gertie Keddle, who lived on the edge of Queerditch Marsh in the eleventh century. Fortunately for us, she kept a diary, now in the Museum of Quidditch in London. The excerpts below have been translated from the badly spelled Saxon of the original. [...] It is immensely interesting that there was a “big Scottish warlock” present. Could he have been a Creaothceann player? Was it his idea to bewitch heavy rocks to zoom dangerously around the pitch, inspired by the boulders used in his native game?
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We find no further mention of the sport played on Queerditch Marsh until a century later, when the wizard Goodwin Kneen took up his quill to write to his Norwegian cousin Olaf.
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These are some examples from the book and the methods for historical research are pretty much the same as we have. It's based on diaries, writing, paintings, and archeological evidence (the medieval broom). No one is asking ghosts who lived back then how Quidditch was played. No one is talking to magical portraits. They rely on physical or written evidence and speculation based on logic, just like we Muggles do.
I mean, magical portraits might have only been invented later, but it doesn't explain why ghosts aren't asked. I mean, Helena and the Bloody Baron were alive in the 10th century. They would be familiar with some of this history; they would know about 10th-century brooms, so how come no one asks ghosts? For that matter, why did no one ask Helena about the whereabouts of Ravenclaw's diadem until Tom Riddle in the 1940s?
And all these questions led me to two new headcanons/theories:
1. Magical portraits were invented in the 1400s or later. The fact that paintings from the early Middle Ages and into the 1100s are referred to as "paintings" and not "portraits" and implied to be non-speaking, suggests the talking portraits we see are a newer magical invention, and therefore history before the early modern period cannot be learned from portraits.
2. Ghosts are considered "unreliable" sources of history. My guess is that most ghosts are more like Binns than they are like Nearly Headless Nick. Binns doesn't know which class he is talking to, what the students' names are, and what year it is. He is stuck in his own unexistence. If most ghosts behave this way, it could explain why it's a frowned-upon practice among magical historians to use their accounts as evidence.
But if that's the case, it's even more bizarre that Binns is teaching history. But then again, teaching history isn't the point of these lessons, and he's been at his post so long, all the parents have been taught by him. Not to mention he isn't teaching his own experience, but that from books, so his own biases/memory issues that are the problem with getting history from ghosts are irrelevant. There would only be a few magical historians (like Bathilda Bagshot) who might object to his position, but most of the wizarding population probably doesn't care.
These are just some thoughts I had regarding how history is written in the WW, and how, therefore, all the in-world history we know is inherently flawed since it is based on surviving written/oral accounts and physical evidence. They clearly don't have any magical method to learn more about their history, and for some reason, no one is asking the ghosts. But this all is great, since it means their history can be taken with a grain of salt the way I usually treat their in-world history.
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llelo · 2 months ago
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Random Fic Idea I have no time to write...
In the early days of Hashirama and Madara's friendship their fathers order them to stop seeing one another, but in a fit of teenage pique they refuse and it comes across like they're in love.
This freaks out Tajima and Butsuma who forbid them from seeing one another, going on long rants about their positions, how they can't love a lowly whatever, ect., ect.
Angry, Hashirama and Madara double down and launch into the greatest real life imitation of star-crossed lovers, sending one another love letters intercepted by their clans, sneaking into one another's compounds to sing serenades, declaring their undying love to anyone who asks and the entire time....
THEY'RE JUST FRIENDS.
They're just angry that someone tried to tell them what to do.
And it just keeps going, because neither side will back down, but no one realized how stubborn Madara and Hashirama are.
THEY TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE END AND RUN AWAY TO BE TOGETHER. Accidentally forming the village when members of their clans who want peace follow them.
THEN THE DAIMYO HOSTS THEIR WEDDING.
And the entire time they're still JUST REALLY GOOD FRIENDS and STUBBORN BASTARDS WHO DIDN'T LIKE ANYONE TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO!
And it's MADA/TOBI and HASHI/MITO/IZU.
When the other clans start wanting to join the village Madara and Hashirama act like they're fools in love so no one realizes its all a lie and it just keeps going and the village keeps growing until one day Madara and Hashirama realize what they've done.
Can't decide which part would be funner: the two of them having to hide the truth from Tobi, Mito, Izuma, and their fathers and pretend to be lovers.
Or: Tobi, Mito, and Izuna naturally figuring it out and having to help them cover so the other clans don't find out.
.....maybe I'll start writing it anyway....
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astrokid425 · 5 months ago
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cant wait to generation on my loss
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importantandunavoidable · 2 years ago
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sandra-hippologic · 7 months ago
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skelpiescool · 5 months ago
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GUYS FOR THE FOUDNERS GAME WHEN YOU GET "SOFTLOCKED" HIGHLIGHT THE TEXT!! THERES STUFF BELOW IT!!! COPY PASTE IT SOMEWHERE AND SELECT A CHOICE!!
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valenfieldsgf · 1 year ago
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FOUNDERS CUT!!!! GENLOSS FOUDNER CYT!!!! THE FOUDNERS CUT GUYS!!!!!! OFUNDER CUT!!!!!
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comicweek · 2 years ago
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Spawn #350
"I was talking to Eric Stephenson, publisher of Image Comics, and I was saying to him, 'Man, even if you forgot the first 300 issues, which was a world record, I've still done 50 issues.,'" McFarlane told ComicBook.com's Jim Viscardi. "And then we started asking the question, 'How many books [has Image Comics] done that have gotten past 50 issues?'"
He added that the number is even smaller if you take the Image foudners and current partner Robert Kirkman (The Walking Dead, Invincible) out of the mix.
"it's shockingly not many, because I mean, again, considering we've been around for over 30 years....If you take the people from the top of the food chain at Image, it was Saga and Deadly Class...East of West."
McFarlane later noted that books like Chew and Morning Glories had hit 50, but that for a publisher that has been around as long as Image, it's shocking how few books are long-running. He suggested he would like to see more, but admitted that books like Spawn and Savage Dragon have not just the Image founders behind them, but also a long history of superhero books being long-running, episodic, and open-ended.
Cover A: Puppeteer Lee Cover B: Todd McFarlane Cover C: Ryan Stegman Cover D: Brett Booth Cover E: Jonathan Glapion Cover F: Todd McFarlane B&W
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izunaweek · 2 years ago
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hoe-imaginess · 6 years ago
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Founders’ wives having problems with the way the dads raise their kids. Who’s gonna give in from the founders, who’s gonna find a compromise? How each one of them will handle this argument?
Hashirama
•The problem that his wife probably finds is in his lackadaisical attitude. As it applies to his kids, he’s very lenient with them. Hardly ever punishes them. So they grow up to be spoiled and bratty as hell
•So when his wife tells him that he’s being too soft and that he needs to start disciplining them a little, he’s like ummmmmm what’s discipline 
•He feels embarrassed and a little ashamed that his s/o would think he wasn’t being a proper dad, and counters by saying he can’t discipline his children too much. He was raised by a horrible father, so he doesn’t want to come anything close to that with his own kids. He wants to them to come to their own conclusions about manners and behavior, etc
•Really that’s just a cover though. Hashi’s just too soft that’s literally it. He can’t help it. He loves his kids so much, the thought of scolding them and seeing their little pouts just kills him
•He’ll try to do better though. He won’t argue with his wife. What she says goes 
•But it’s pretty difficult forcing himself to be firmer with his kids. They’ll be playing outside for too long and when he tells them it’s time to come in, they whine and make him feel bad. So he’s like... ok five more minutes. Then five minutes later he’s back to tell them again, and then they whine again, so it’s another five minutes he gives them. It goes on until it’s another hour 
Tobirama
•There are lots of things his wife could take issue with (sorry Tobirama it’s not that you’d be a bad dad it’s just that you wouldn’t be the best dad) but it would probably be accidental neglect that became the main concern
•He’s a busy guy, and no matter how much he loves his family, he has to put work first sometimes. So he hardly ever sees his kid. His wife tells him he needs to be more involved, and he definitely argues back that he can’t just drop all of his responsibilities like that
•With his lack of involvement also comes his brash form of discipline. As harsh as his upbringing was, Tobirama still for some reason imitates his father, cold, stern, and pointed, and raises his kids the same way. And obviously, that freaking sucks
•He has a soft spot for his children no doubt, but he wants to raise them to be good, smart shinobi. So he doesn’t understand why he shouldn’t be stern with them. It’s not always going to happen, but more times than not, he’s hard on them because he thinks it’s going to help them in the future
•It’s not an argument that he’s going to let die, not unless his wife gives up. He’s not going to change his entire way of raising his children just because she finds fault with it. Sure, he may agree he needs to tone it down a little if he can tell it’s affecting the kids. But if he thinks they’re stronger for it and that his discipline is doing more good than bad, he’s not going to change much 
•It might spiral into a bigger conflict. His wife saying she can’t raise kids with him, his kids getting to a point where they fear him, etc. Then that’s when Tobirama would feel really bad and completely change strategies, trying to be less stern
Madara
•He doesn’t at all appreciate his wife finding fault with the way he raises their kids. Madara had a very firm, hard upbringing, and he didn’t much like it. Because of that, he knows he needs to be a little softer on his own kids. So he thought he was doing good by balancing tolerance with discipline, but apparently his wife doesn’t think so
•Likely, she thinks Madara’s expectations are a little too high. He’ll want the kids to grow into great Uchiha shinobi. Bearing his name, he needs them to be great shinobi tbh. He wouldn’t sit well with anything less
•And it’s feasible that he would show disappointment toward any child that didn’t really meet his standards. It’s not like he won’t love them or anything, he just may focus on his other child if they’re more battle prominent
•That’s shitty, and his wife knows it. She tries to tell Madara that shinobi prowess shouldn’t be a basis for how much attention he gives his children. He argues that it’s not like that, but he isn’t going to waste the potential he sees in one of his children if not the other, so that’s why he spends more time with them
•It’s not an easy argument to win with Madara. He may come away from it realizing he’s been wrong to marginalize one child for not being strong enough, but he’s still not going to drop his habits completely
•He loves all of his children, but a strong Uchiha lineage is important to him, so he can’t ignore that. He spends a lot of time training with his children, and it can’t be helped if one isn’t meeting his standards. He may just end up spending more time with that child, if anything. Just to give them more training and get them to a level where they’re confident 
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techcocktail · 7 years ago
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Marketing on Too Many Platforms Can Lead to a Lack of Focus
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llelo · 2 months ago
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Wabi-Sabi Chapter 3 The first memory Hashirama has of Tobirama is a tiny, red, wrinkled, screaming thing that he’d loved at first sight. He still loves him.  Even though now he’s a big, pale, smooth, screaming thing.  Who frequently has sharp objects in at least one hand and a concerning willingness to use them.
https://www.wattpad.com/1504581344-wabi-sabi-ikigai
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campyvillain · 4 years ago
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this is the foudner
it’s him
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girldraki · 4 years ago
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context of the rest of the tale indicates that gears is simply beign set up as an even greater manlet which like. Why and No and hes Very Small to founder and foudner alone
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sandra-hippologic · 8 months ago
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Motivate your Horse to Move: Exercising your Horse with R+
When you want to exercise your horse, it's all about motivation... When your horse is not motivated, internally or externally, he won't move. In other words: when movement has no function (benefit) he won't spent energy on it.
When you want to exercise your horse, it’s all about motivation… When your horse is not motivated, internally or externally, he won’t move. In other words: when movement has no function (benefit) he won’t spent energy on it. Internal Motivation to Move When you learn about internal motivation you can influence your horse to move in training, too. What horses experience in their body, I refer to…
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kagami--uchiha · 4 years ago
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@kyu-pine​ asked:
💟 What is their stance on PDA?
🍵 Do they prefer to ask out a partner or be asked?
👥 What is my muse’s sexual & romantic orientation?
💦 When did they lose their virginity?
⁉ Have they ever questioned their sexuality?
💡 What made them realize their sexuality?
💗 What advice would they give a potential partner about making their relationship last if they could with no judgment?
❌ What is the biggest mistake they make in their relationships?
Sorry if it's too much Ama! You don't have to do all!
💟 What is their stance on PDA?
Kagami doesn’t mind PDA, as long as it doesn’t cross certain boundaries. He loves holding hands, walking arm in arm, giving soft and loving kisses.. All the vanilla stuff. Sure he also does like to tease, but only really when he knows no one can see it ;3
🍵 Do they prefer to ask out a partner or be asked?
He doesn’t prefer either. He might be a bit bashful if he is the one to ask out, but he sure does that as well.
👥 What is my muse’s sexual & romantic orientation?
Kagami would describe himself as Pansexual and Panromantic
💦 When did they lose their virginity?
😏 Oh wouldn’t you like to know, huh? In the standart verse (foudners era) It would have been at about the age of 17 I think, with the girl that would later become his wife and give birth to Shisui. In every other verse I think it would depend, but I would mostly pin it at around the same age. 
⁉ Have they ever questioned their sexuality?
He had, yes. The first time he started dreaming of a man ;)
💡 What made them realize their sexuality?
Longest time he would have said he was Bisexual. because really he likes both genders. But seeing as genderidendity can be an ever changing things, with so many more things to discover, he found out that he was Pan. He does not mind gender, it just isn’t a defining factor for him if he falls in love or not. 
💗 What advice would they give a potential partner about making their relationship last if they could with no judgment?
Just to never be afraid to talk to him. He can only work on mistakes when he knows what is wrong. Communication is key, that even more than just physical affection or a lot of other things. 
❌ What is the biggest mistake they make in their relationships?
The biggest mistake he makes is that he can be pretty clingy with his partner, also as a result of his upbringing he often seeks some kind of reassurance, which can be exhausting. 
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