#the final prophecy

[lieutenant-kettch]

[holonetwork]

I'm very pleased to share the final episode of the documentary series I've made on the NJO, Crafting An Epic: The Making of the New Jedi Order. This final episode, Part VII: Unification, takes us through the conclusion to this amazing series with insights and commentary from Greg Keyes and James Luceno on The Final Prophecy and The Unifying Force, talking deeply about Yuuzhan Vong society as well other elements of the series, such as Jacen's enlightenment and setting possibly the capstone for the Star Wars universe. Following that is a section of NJO reflections by those who made the series, as well as neat archival polls taken of the fandom (over 1000 participants) of their favorite characters, books, scenes, and so on, from 2005. It was a lot of work to make this series but a joy to see it come to fruition and share it. Enjoy!

[savleye]

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You wanna know what that means???

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[bornitereads]

The Final Prophecy - Greg Keyes

Star Wars: The New Jedi Order book 18

Reread: Jan 2024

The penultimate book of the New Jedi Order series! You know when I started my reread of NJO I thought I could finish it before the end of 2023. Lol, did not happen. I could have if I applied most of my free time to reading, but sometimes a bitch needs to also do other things.

Anyways, two storylines here. One with Wedge Antilles and his military operation in Bilbringi. An operation which goes south fast because the Yuuzhan Vong have finally started disrupting communications by destroying holonet relays. The other storyline is all about the Yuuzhan Vong. Discontent on Yuuzhan'tar (Coruscant), evidence from Zonama Sekot pointing to Yuuzhan Vong origins, Nom Anor making prophecies he thinks are bullshit. In the end three Yuuzhan Vong are extracted from Coruscant by Tahiri and Corran Horn and go to Zonama Sekot. Revelations are had, betrayals are made, Nom Anor is an absolute dick.

I like the focus on the Yuuzhan Vong in this book, the introduction of more nuance into them as a species was a wise call imo. They are not a monolith, and I appreciate the depth that was added to them. I also liked that when they arrived at Zonama Sekot they landed very far from the other Jedi already on planet. It gave the Yuuzhan Vong characters time to process Zonama Sekot without influence. It was also nice to have, like, second? third? rank characters have their time without anyone of the Skywalker lineage involved.

Info: Del Rey; 2003

[deadbaguette]

Dear children of Priam, were you doomed all along?

[bet-on-me-13]

Wes ruins everything

Wes had finally done it, he had finally realized why nobody ever belived him about Fenton and Phantom! It made so much sense now, he had been looking for an answer for years, thinking he was going crazy because everybody refused to see the Obvious!

He was Cursed!

He literally had an Ancestoral Curse on his Bloodline that made it so that all those born with the gift of Prophecy would be ignored! A Gift of Prophecy that he apparently had.

It was Cassandra's Curse, the one from Greek Myths. Apparently she was his Great×1000 Grandmother and passed down the Gift (and Curse) of Prophecy to him. And he knew how to break it!

All he needed to do was gather the right resources, chant the correct incantations, make sure not to accidentally summon a Demon in the process, and he could just foist the Curse onto some other poor schmuck. Sure it would suck for them, and he would loose his Gift of Prophecy, but Wes had been ignored for Years at this point, he needed validation!

So he did the Ritual, and he didn't mess it up, and he managed to get rid of the Curse.

Now all he had to do was convince everybody that he was right for the first time in his life! This was going to be great!

...

Cass didn't know what was going on.

A while ago, she had started getting these...gut feelings that she couldn't explain.

She would look over the details of a Case her Family was working on, and see a patern that the others were seemingly ignoring. Like when she realized that The Penguin was about to raid the Docks on the East Side, but the others were convinced it was going to be on the West.

But when she had tried to tell them, they had brushed her off. "We've already concluded that he will begin the Raid on the West side, no need to go to the East."

She had gone anyways, and low and behold she had been right. But nobody even acknowledged that she had been right at all, they had just wondered how they had missed the signs, not even questioning how she had known.

It wasn't limited to Cases either. Even small things, like telling her brother's where the TV remote was were brushed off, and hours later they would still be looking, never even having checked where she told them.

It seemed that no matter what, nobody cared about her point of view anymore. They kept brushing her off, telling her she was wrong, actively ignoring her ideas.

And it was getting worse. They were starting to ignore her more and more, forgetting she was in the room, not calling her down for Dinner, even forgetting to check in on her during Patrol.

She knew that there must be something going on, Magical or otherwise, but when she tried bringing it up with her Dad or JLD, they would also Brush her off.

Her Family was forgetting her. And they didn't even realize it.

...

Danny was not okay at the moment.

When he had gone to school a few weeks ago and noticed everybody staring at him, he didn't give it much thought. Maybe Dash or Paulina had spread another Rumor about him again, not too out of the ordinary.

When his name had been called over the Intercom, he hadn't thought much of that either. His grades were falling even more than usual, so he assumed his Guidance Counselor wanted to have another talk with him.

When he walked into the Principals Office to see both of his Parents and some GIW Agents, that's when he realized something big must have happened.

He didn't have much of a chance to react when the Shields went up, but he did react when the first Ecto-Blast scorched the wall behind him. His Parents began to scream at him as they fired their Blasters, something about replacing somebody? He didn't know, he was pretty preoccupied at the moment.

It took more effort than he cared to admit to escape the Room, but a stray shot to the hidden Shield Projector under the Principals Desk proved to be his saving grace. Unfortunately the moment he escaped the Office, he was met with a veritable Army of GIW Agents, all armed to the Teeth with Weapons he had never even seen before.

He managed to get away for a moment, hiding in the Bathroom as the Agents chasing him passed it by. That's when he met Wes.

He obviously hadn't been expecting him, but the moment he saw him Wes put on a smug look. "Oh hi Fenton, trying to get away from the other students?"

Danny had replied with confusion, "What the hell are you talking about?!"

"I finally managed to convince everybody about you, now everyone knows that you're Phantom! I'll bet you're hiding from all of the other Students hounding you for questions right?"

"...it was you?"

"Yeah, so? I finally get to be right!"

"...You absolute MORON-"

That was the last Danny got to say to Wes before an Ecto-Blast launched him through a Wall, seeing his face morph into a look of Shock just before the dust cloud covered it up.

Since that day, Danny had been on the Run. Nowhere was safe anymore now that the GIW knew both his Human and Ghost's faces, but he had to keep running. He crossed state Lines already, and was on his way to the next Ecto-Rich City he could sense, somewhere in New Jersey.

He cursed his Fenton Luck every day. Why had everybody believed Wes this time?! Nobody had ever belived him before, nobody even seemed to acknowledge his existence after a while! What had changed?

Danny just wanted to rest already.

...

Cass had taken to Patrolling alone recently. She had taken to doing a lot of things alone, actually.

After the first month, it seemed that nobody could remember that she was in the room with them, even if she was within their eyeline, she just faded into the background. By the 2 Month Mark they had stopped talking to her entirely, although occasionally she would get a Text or two from her dad. By the 3 month Mark she was completely invisible, and By the 5th she had been forced to get used to it.

She didn't know what was going on, was it a Meta Ability? Magic? Alien Tech? She had no idea.

She had begun to cook for herself after the first time Alfred forgot to set her Plate at the Table. The same with Washing her own Clothes, Cleaning her Room, and Paying her Phone Bills. At the very least the Automated Allowance Payments to her Account had kept up, or she wouldn't have been able to go to her favorite Cafe anymore.

It was bittersweet for her. She used to go to that Cafe every week with Alfred, but he didn't even come on his own anymore. Had he only come for her? Did she really mean that much to them? It hurt, she finally had a family that cared for her and suddenly she didn't exist to them.

She sat alone at a Table, ignored by everyone in the Cafe as usual, when a new face walked in. He looked about her age, a little roughed up, walking with a sort of cautious gaint, as if he was scared of something. His Body Language seemed to agree with her assessment, as his body practically screamed "Worry" in its movements.

Cass stopped watching at that point. Just another Gotham Teen, probably worried over something like getting not having enough money or getting mugged on the way home. It was a Common sight in Gotham.

She attention was pricked again for a moment when she heard a voice speak up. "Uh, can I sit here?"

She ignored it, he wasn't talking to her.

"Um, excuse me? Miss? Could I sit here?" He repeated.

She ignored him again, he wasn't talking to her. Nobody talked to her.

"Hello? Do you have Earbuds in?" He said, and he waved his hand in front of her face.

Her face. He waved his hand. In front of Her Face.

He was talking to her.

She looked up at him sharply, seeming to startle him for a moment before he asked, "So, is that a no?"

"You can see me?" She asked.

He looked a bit bewildered, but replied "Uh, yeah? Why would I not? Are you...a Ghost?". That last part sounded a bit suspicious.

"No. Not a Ghost. But nobody sees me. Ever. Nobody remembers me." She replied. She had never spoken this much to anybody outside of her Family, but in the past few weeks she had been starved for interaction.

He seemed slightly interested, and sat down at her table. He looked her in the eyes, and said "Do you...talk about it?"

She smiled. He could see her.

[markantonys]

For a moment Rand was silent as well, looking around at the faces turned to him. At last he said, “I hope to return, but who can say what will happen? The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills.” He hesitated, with every eye on him. “But I will leave you something to remember me by,” he added, sticking a hand in his coat pocket.

Abruptly a fountain near the Roof burst to life, water gushing from the mouths of incongruous porpoises standing on their tails. Beyond that, a statue of a young man with a horn raised to the sky suddenly was putting up a spreading fan, and then two stone women farther on were casting sprays of water from their hands. In stunned stillness the Aiel watched as all the fountains of Rhuidean flowed once more.

“I should have done that long since.” Rand’s mutter was no doubt meant for himself, but in the hush, Egwene could hear him quite clearly. The splash of hundreds of fountains was the only other sound. Natael shrugged as if he had expected no less.

It was at Rand that Egwene stared, not the fountains. A man who could channel. Rand. He’s still Rand, despite everything. But each time she saw him do it was like learning that he could all over again. Growing up, she had been taught that only the Dark One was more to be feared than a man who could channel. Maybe Aviendha’s right to be afraid of him.

But when she looked down at Aviendha, open wonder shone on her face; so much water delighted the Aiel woman as the finest silk dress might have Egwene, or a garden full of flowers.

– Robert Jordan, The Fires of Heaven

[fishalthor]

josh heuston as constantine corrino in dune: prophecy 1.05

[onaperduamedee]

See, if I stopped fighting it, even for a second, I'd be gone.

[clarkgriffon]

BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER 7x22 | “Chosen” 

[vorbarrsultana]

moiraine when playing stupid games (knowingly pushing rand for the same thing lanfear does, isolating him from his friends, so he doesn't have anyone but her to lean on, ignoring him when he doesn't do what she tells him to) wins her stupid prizes (rand starts to believe anything she does is the elaborate attempt to gain more control of him and doubts her motives)

[d8tl55c]

hey wait a minute

so it's the start of AvA part 7 and Chosen and Dark are talking, right? and the former has this vision of terrible things happening if they don't stop the latter, right here and now.

they see the ViraBots descending on the last remnants of stick kind with Dark as their leader (or Lord if you will. ha ha) and i, trusting viewer, took their assessment as reliable*. we JUST saw Dark getting uncomfortably violent in earlier scenes after all

but

however

notwithstanding

unless Chosen has demonstrable prophetic powers (like how Orange has** in the past seen things currently happening (horizontally-prophetic let's call it: seeing faraway in the current time) (there's probably a better word for this but let's move on)), how did they know this was definitely what Dark was leading up to?

** ⬆ examples of Orange horizontally-prophesizing in AvM episode 11, SkyBlock (unconfirmed but referenced as, "uh? well maybe??? maybe i didn't think about it yet-" (abridged quote from AvG react video)) (op will die /j /extremely pos if this is used again in AvA 11 (HAH they'd both be episode 11 (op just giggled maniacally)))

Dark doesn't even have his control bracelets on.

because Chosen didn't know about them yet.

because this is not a prophetic vision.

Chosen is just that... reactive. what was it. @compressedrage (hi o/ ) had a good wording let me find it. yeah i guess it was reactionary

the ONLY time we've seen them stop to think things through is actually just a terrified anxiety breakdown while they stand there, frozen, imagining the worst, until they snap out of it JUST in time to impact their reality.

but with no time left for debate. reasoning. they assumed Dark was beyond reasoning from the moment he showed off what his device could do............. because they were beyond reasoning out of fear.

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[phoenixwithapencil]

Ya ever find it weird that Bahamut barely has his role talked about in game? How strange his role really is?

Bahamut, the bladekeeper

Bahamut, the draconian

Bahamut, the keeper of prophecies and creator of the crystal

Bahamut, the god of war

Bahamut, the god who never provided a real reason for why so much blood had to be spilled for his prophecy to come true

Bahamut, who misled Ardyn and Somnus both into petty violence

Bahamut, who told Ardyn to spread the scourge upon the world for decades

Bahamut, who let Ardyn go on a vengeful killing spree just long enough to really hate Lucis- but not get his revenge- and then let him go back on his merry way to Nifilheim and Verstael Besithia who had ambitions of war and tin soldiers powered by scourge

Bahamut, who enabled a war that killed nearly everyone on both sides not to mention those who were caught in the crossfire- a war that would not have been so bloody had Ardyn not had such a hand in it

Bahamut, who demanded a blood price 2,000 years in the making- who really demanded two sacrifices- Ardyn and Noctis- who did not need both for there is a world where Noctis at least lives and the sun rises and no one else needed to die for it.

Bahamut, the god of war, the creator of the crystal

It’s a strange pairing when taken with the story of ff15. That’s all.

[bihastuff]

So now it's confirmed that Hak was indeed the shield in the prophecy 👀

[tea-time221]

soo the klapollo tv art renewed an old idea

rinku meets klapollo i love gay people

[justafewberries]

No one cheated the prophecy of the seven

I've seen the theory that Jason died because Leo cheated the Prophecy of Seven, but I don't think it's true. Rather, I don’t think anyone cheated the Prophecy of the Seven. The origin of the theory likely stems from lines two and three of the prophecy as written below:

1. Seven half-bloods shall answer the call.

2. To storm or fire, the world must fall.

3. An oath to keep with a final breath,

4. And foes bear arms to the Doors of Death.

For the sake of this argument, let's assume Leo is fire and Jason is storm. Yes, there can be arguments that Percy is storm (hurricanes) or Frank is fire (burning stick), but let's keep it simple.

The key line in this theory is the second one. It states either Leo (fire) or Jason (storm) must cause the fall of Gaea (the world), but nowhere does it strictly state that they must die too.

When a prophecy wants someone gone, it makes it clear. The prophecy in Titan's Curse states: "One shall be lost in the land without rain," where Bianca is then lost. In The Burning Maze, we see something similar. The prophecy is never strictly stated, but Jason says it was verbatim that he would die. In both instances, the foretold deaths have been blatant with the words "lost" and "die" being crucial to the unfolding of the prophecy.

Notably, however, the Prophecy of Seven's only mentions of death belong to two lines: line three being "final breath", and line four being "doors of death". Nowhere does it strictly say storm or fire must die. The proximity of the lines to each other makes it seem like they could be related- but I don't think that's the case.

When studying poetry, there's a major difference between a comma and a period. A period is a full stop (as seen in lines one, two, and four). A comma, on the other hand, is a pause before a continuation of an idea. Therefore, lines three and four are attached to one another, and line two is a separate event.

Therefore, Leo was never prophesied to die. In fact, no one was foretold to die. The oath was never Leo's oath to Calypso, and the final breath was not his either.

Whose final breath was it, then?

Bob's.

It's the final breath of the foes at the doors of death. Lines three and four are related, as they're separated only by a comma, not a period.

When the doors are closing, Bob uses his final breath of his time with Percy to ask him to keep an oath that he'll say hello to the stars for him. The oath was Percy's, the oath was Bob's.

Therefore, Leo didn't cheat the prophecy. Sure, he could have died outside of the prophecy, but it wasn't foretold as is often theorized.