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#wbn spoilers#wbn#wbn pod#the wizard the witch and the wild one#worlds beyond number#ame the witch#suvirin kedberiket#suvi the wizard#glassheart#heart’s secrets#the conclave arc#THIS MOMENT DEVESTATE ANYONE ELSE THOROUGHLY ON THE BUS??????
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Hot take, apparently, but
a) Percy's hair in TLOVM isn't that bad. It's simple and effective and the built-in shading really helps give dimension to his head. And, more importantly...
b) consider that in the earlier concept art, he does have cool hair. So the hair he ended up with was a conscious choice by Taliesin and Phil Bourassa (and any other artists involved in the process).
Look. He went from this...
... to this:
It doesn't seem all that easier to animate (and if Percy being a pain in the ass was an issue, wouldn't the simplified coat/etc. already accomplish that?), but the main thing that stands out is how much younger it makes Percy look.
Which, y'know, is important, given S1 focuses on his trauma suffered as a teenager. Which was not all that long ago.
He is young, the second youngest of Vox Machina! And a core part of Percy's character is that, despite thinking he and Vex are the only adults in the room, he is not nearly as mature as he thinks he is. Which is also apparent in his more silly moments in S2, which are also complimented by the more boyish hairstyle.
Percy shouldn't be taken too seriously, which I think is emphasized by how much Taliesin makes a point to underline his flaws and bully the character when he can. With the gunslinging and shock-white hair and cool coat and shadow demon and a castle to put it all in, he's already bordering on too cool; making him look like a stud when he's really just a nerd would make it harder to pull off comedic moments with him. On top of emphasizing the horror of what happened to him at the hands of the Briarwoods and Ripley; he's still so young.
And as an audience we need to be reminded of that when he's pulling off a cool pose or trying to flirt with Vex or getting all raspy with the Orthax voice.
Anyways, art is subjective, but Percy as a character walks the fine line between 'coolass anime protagonist' and 'cringefail nerd' and I think the artists and Taliesin knew what they were doing refusing to let him be too #badass or #hot when he's an early-mid twenties nerd wailing that he's very flammable and sniffling pathetically after giving a girl he coat.
#Once he kisses Vex then he can get cool hair. not a moment before.#and odds are good that WILL happen with the duck hair. presumably Vex finds him attractive with the duck hair#also to be clear I DO expect him to get a bit of a redesign after the Chroma Conclave. both bc character development and ~stuff~#but for now this is the start of his character arc and we need to remember he's barely older than Keyleth. as much as he'd pretend otherwis#tlovm#the legend of vox machina#percival de rolo#seriously guys just. think about character design instead of 'NOT HOT ENOUGH :C' for 5 seconds?
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Bellini, my favourite, a kind liberal repressing his feral desire to go to war and sieze the crown in bloodless righteousness.
AU where he doesn't hold back from the start. His burning ambition is not only advertised, but is weaponized. For the greater good. Because he wants this. He deserves this. And you deserve this. You deserve good. You deserve him. You need this. You need him. And he's going to deliver.
No matter the cost.
#conclave 2024#conclave#kind quiet decent intelligent people eating themselves alive with repressed desires is my oxygen#send them on a corruption arc#and then redemption
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The last of the Chroma Conclave, the ancient green dragon Raishan. The head started based as a meanier dilophosaurus thingy and I'd like to think the crest is retractable. Also I added some kind of goose tongue because those beast have the meaniest tongues in nature. Voiced by Matthew Mercer on @criticalrole and by Cree Summer in The Legend of Vox Machina.
#critical role#critical role fanart#critical role art#critrole#critrole fanart#critrole art#cr campaign one#vox machina#vox machina fanart#vox machina art#the legend of vox machina#critter#chroma conclave#chroma conclave arc#raishan#raishan the diseaded deceiver#green dragon#ancient green dragon#dungeons and dragons#d&d#d&d 5e#dnd#dnd 5e#rpg#ttrpg#prime video#animation#fanart#art#artists on tumblr
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locking down some season 3 tlovm predictions before we get any teasers:
there will not be three dragon boss fights in a row. i don't mean literally in a row (like 10/11/12), I mean more as the wider story. I think they'll rearrange Vorugal to be the opener. I think Vorgual- Thordak- Raishan is far too much dragon. I think Ripley and Glintshore is a perfect way to break up the season and the show has rearranged things before.
And Vorugal will only be one episode near the start because who rly cares, you can shove that character stuff in anywhere else. We could have a montage with Raishan helping VM train to defeat Vorugal or something, then episode 2 or 3 could be Vorugal.
We can see Ripley sneaking about in the early episodes, and will reveal herself to VM, and then VM wil be like 'oh she's alive and being an active problem' and Percy can be like 'yeah I heard that' (as Viktor mentioned it to him in s2) and then Vax/Scanlan/Keyleth can be like 'and you didn't think to mention this?' and Percy can be like. 'haha we were busy. but yeah i'm terrible', and then they can distrust Percy, then we can get depressed Percy, the man was not depressed enough in s2 to lead into his death.
I am torn if they'll finish the whole of Chroma Conclave or not. One one hand I thnk they could, and Bard's Lament is the perfect sad end to the season. On the other hand, this arc is DENSE and they could maybe leave Raishan to the next season as a cliffhanger. Then Scanlan leaves, Bards Lament in episode 3 or something, then episode 4 BAM TARY TIME.
We won't get Scanlan's first death or Percy's second (I am 90% sure of this). I hope we get instead of Percy's second a sexy moment where Vex says 'Not again bitches' and saves him.
Keyleth rageee (I am begging you)
Vaxleth getting together will not happen this season, for some reason. Perc'ahlia will (this is actually the wildest prediction). Perc'ahlia will be mid season, if Vaxleth happens it will be end of the season.
#tlovm#vox machina#i think i've said this before but ya know#critical role#tlovm spoilers#tlovm predictions#honestly I think that if percy's death guarantees Perc'ahlia#like I feel like Vaxleth has been turned into the slow burn for some reason#there is so much dragon in the chroma conclave arc
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WE WONT GET DRUNK PIKE IN AN EMPTY BAR WITH GROG PASSED OUT AT THE TABLE BESIDE HER TALKING TO A SCANLAN THATS NOT THERE ABOUT HER DAY BECAUSE SHE MISSES HIM AND WISHES THERE WAS SOMETHING SHE COULD’VE SAID THAT WOULD’VE MADE HIM STAY 😭
#tlovm spoilers#WE’RE ROBBED OF THE BEST LATE-STAGE PIKELAN BECAUSE OF THIS TOO#fuck it im spiraling#we’re rewatching cr 1 from the start of the chroma conclave arc#i need something to listen to in the bg while i sit at my desk all day anyways
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Just had a thought re: Critical Role Campaign 1 and The Legend of Vox Machina
Imagine the absolute chaos that would have been unleashed upon Exandria if Vox Machina hadn’t screwed up the Briarwoods’ timetable and they had succeeded in bringing You Know Who back to the Prime Material Plane on the Solstice.
That means he AND Thordak would have been released on the same day. An all-powerful lich attaining godhood and the Chroma Conclave devastating Tal’Dorei AT THE SAME TIME!!?
Oof.
#critical role#the legend of vox machina#spoilers#tlovm spoilers#critical role spoilers#vox machina#tal’dorei#whispered one#vecna#delilah briarwood#sylas briarwood#briarwood arc#chroma conclave#thordak#cinder king#winter solstice#winter’s crest
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just watched conclave ohhhhh my godd what a movie
#diary entry#conclave#films#i have so many thoughts about this movie i couldn't possibly articulate them rn but oh my godddddd#my mama watched with me n she loved it too#all the little details like in cinematography choices n costumes n sound n symbolism#i'm not catholic or christian in general but i really loved what the film had to say about faith#with that sermon in the beginning#n also within the church n it's relation to other religions n faith or lack of it#i absolutely love stories where even deeply religious people experience doubt n uncertainty#n cardinal lawrence's whole arc was so interestin to watch#carlos diehz is a standout to me n i hope he does more actin bc obviously he's very good#also#ralph fiennes the old man that you are#ok now i'm gonna go learn everything i can about this movie n look at all the analyses i've been ignorin so i don't get spoiled
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Vax: *falls in love with Keyleth and gently breaks things off with Gilmore to pursue that relationship.*
Matt, who already had Gilmore's parents and childhood home on another continent ready and fleshed out for the meet-the-parents stage/wedding: "...I am going to get them over there to meet this nice old couple somehow, dammit."
(Given Vox Machina's usual life, this is hardly a blip on the radar of difficult/awkward, but in general, I do feel like "The place I'm teleporting you to is a closet in my parents' house" is a detail that would be helpful to explain in advance.)
#sure *maybe* matt created gilmore's parents as part of looping this continent into the arc knowing the party would likely go there...#just for the personal touch#but given his style of e.g. ''i mapped the entire city of whitestone because i didn't know where you'd want to go''#it seems reasonable that gilmore's parents might have been prepped for a while just in case it came up.#shaun gilmore#chroma conclave arc#vox machina#critical role
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btw i love how i knew IMMEDIATELY that them going to the City of Dis was to make sure they could include the Rakshasa.
i fucking love the Rakshasa scene you have no fucking idea how excited i am my god i cant wait for it
#critical role#legend of vox machina#the legend of vox machina#lovm#tlovm#lovm s3#lovm spoilers#i love when my favs get hurt and attacked and we know im a vax fan so the Rakshasa is one of my fav bits of the Chroma Conclave arc#love that guy
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so I fell in love with my husband's husband recently and went to follow his tag on here and the featured post for the tag is my own stupid post after the daggerheart stream
#i guess Tumblr knew before i did#sam riegel#liam o'brien#critical role husbands#critical role#daggerheart#the part of the campaign that made me fall in love was like somewhere in eps 70-80#later chroma conclave arc#scanlan is just so fucking phenomenal then#sam plays him so well#I'm so interested in his character
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On Witches, Wizards, and Wild Ones: A Conspiracy Board from the Walls of the Witch of the Wondering Path
Ahoohoo and crackle crackle!
This is an attempt of untangling some threads, stretching out their red yarn and connecting one thing to another or maybe to nothing at all. A series of notes and questions on what we know, what we may know so far, or at the very least what we have been told. The purpose is mostly to try and determine who might be behind the assassination attempt of the station of the Witch of the World’s Heart, before the Coven of Elders convenes, but also some other stuff, because these sorts of things balloon out quite quickly when one is combing through transcripts for clues. And also a dragon??
I shall analyze and speculate from what we have been told, knowing some inconsistencies may be characters concealing truths, interpreting them differently, or that some inconsistencies will be born of this beautiful improvisational medium. I will also do so knowing that Brennan is playing a long game, setting up characters and plot threads for a future he does not entirely know yet.
Settle in with your warm drinks and campfire blankets everyone, this is 12 page paper.
THE CURSE(S)
There are several appearances of curses in both the Children’s Adventure and the first arc, often characterized by an exhalation of dark smoke.
In the Children’s Adventure: While not confirmed as a curse, when Grandmother Wren leaves (to a meeting with friends that the wizards don’t know about, to see where the missing Eoighorain might be) to what is presumably a meeting with the Coven of Elders, she returns with a bandage tied around her forearm. But it does not look too horrifying and it is not soaked with blood. She describes the trip as eventful and necessary. (Possibly at the castle of Indri, the Witch of the Wind and Stars, as the conclave will be the second meeting there in a century.)
In episode 8, 2 days before Steel arrives to bring Suvi home, Grandmother Wren returns to the cottage after leaving to try and figure out why Soft and Stone have not come yet. She went to a place that they had told her was safe, and someone was there waiting to hurt her. Grandmother Wren tells Suvi “They’re gone now.”
Grandmother Wren looks ill; her hair is white and her hand is described as black and red and withered, burnt and cracking with blood streaming down from a wound that can’t set. Her breath is ragged, weak, and quick. The curse is described to Eursulon as not strong, but clever. He also learns that the curse uses her pain to keep the itself in place; that it gets stronger the more she tries to feel and deal with the pain.
After the children work together to trap the curse and heal Grandmother Wren, Suvi recognizes the mist of wizardly teleportation magic outside. The girls just barely see Grandmother Wren’s footprints outside the door, but do not see anyone else’s, nor any other signs of entry. Suvi is able to tell that the magic is not Grandmother Wren’s.
After investigating this caught curse, which Grandmother Wren at first believed was the work of the wizard, she determines the curse was expecting a wizard, and did not believe its origins were of this realm. She also says it should have killed her, but it didn’t, because they were expecting someone else.
I was surprised re-listening that Grandmother Wren believed this portion of the curse expected a wizard. I think this curse may have been on an item capable of teleportation magic (no second set of footprints) perhaps meant for Soft and Stone, but when its target became Grandmother Wren, a contingent effect was triggered, or this is another curse altogether perhaps mingling with the larger curse on both her and Ame. Grandmother Wren thought Soft and Stone were spending the summer trying to find out who their true friends were - perhaps the Coven of Elders were also testing who they could trust. While “They’re gone now. Do you understand?” implies Grandma Wren whooping their ass 6 ft under the ground, she hadn’t figured out who cast it yet at that point, which leads me to believe that they were not present. The origin not being of this realm makes me think the origin of the curse is The Stranger.
In Ep 01:
Here we discover the larger curse on both Grandmother Wren and Ame, when they realize a curse has robbed Ame of her memories and knowledge, of her station and of who she could trust and prevents Grandmother Wren from telling her about the Coven of Elders or calling herself the Witch of the World’s Heart. Grandmother Wren breaks through the curse (but not breaking it proper) as it tries to “stop the coronation” by willing the house, and all that is hers to Ame.
After, Brennan tells us “Grandmother Wren can no longer speak as she concentrates on magic, she has not fought off this curse”
Taro addresses the Granddaughters of Wren and tells them “The curse is powerful, but the secrets that Wren shared still live. You have been cursed too” and then, speaking of Wavebreaker, “But there is a key, a key to find where they are being kept, and a key to cut them free when found. There is a source with the power to disenchant and scry”
GrandaughterS of Wren - is Suvi afflicted by any part of the curse, or was Taro’s “you” only addressing Ame? Taro also says Wavebreaker has the power to find where the secrets are being kept, and the power to scry but this is not currently reflected in the statblock…but more on that later when we talk about the Stranger’s possible connection to Wavebreaker.
We also learn in Episode 15, once Ame recovers her memories, that the Stranger had attacked Grandmother Wren at the Grove of the Well— a place sacred to the Coven of Elders, a month prior to her bed rest. She also tells Ame “For some time now, since you were a very little girl, in fact, he has been moving upon our world in a way that I cannot quite see.
Is part of the curse helping to obscure The Pilgrim Under the Stars, The Man in Black, The King of Night, The Stranger from Grandmother Wren? Did he start moving in such a way shortly after she took in Ame as her apprentice (which she was “cutting a bit close”) and the succession of her station was in the process of being secured, not going the way of either Scalvi, the Witch of the Watching Fire or Oruna, the Witch of the Wide Blue Sea?
In Ep 14:
In episode 14 when Eursulon breaks the curse on Ame we are told “Whatever entity placed this curse on Grandmother Wren and Ame put a spell so nasty that it was standing in front of successive contingent effects. That there’s like, a nested series of spells within Ame, and you’re excising all of them. But the big one that Ame was aware of was hiding some others”
The curse afflicting Grandmother Wren at the end of summer, seems to be the larger curse affected both her and Ame. The children only excised and trapped one part of many of the curse.
The curse is described as something sliding and clicking, liquid poison filled with a puzzle, turning from the inside, made of shadow. something that twists and rotates and expands and pierces. The curse is also holding onto something as it leaves - Ame is able to grab and safekeep the knowledge the curse attempts to steal from her on a Nat 20 wisdom save, and then collapses to the ground and expectorates black bile that smells of iron and blood, like Eoighorain, with a 9 on her constitution save. Her breathing remains strong, not ragged (unlike Grandmother Wren). We are told, through Suvi’s identify spell, that the bile is not the curse itself, but was behind the curse - something hidden there, meant to kill Ame if the curse were to be broken
Does the bile smell of Eoighorain because its a contribution he made to the curse (he is a known entity to the Coven of Elders), or a signifier of a power both he and Ame are affected by? We learn later, in Episode 16 when Steel discusses Eoighorain with Suvi, that this smell is not common amongst shapeshifter’s, but a scent she has only ever smelled from him.
When Steel arrives she says that the longer Ame remains in her unconscious state, the more whoever created this spell would be able to track her.
More on this in the next section- but is that why Indri, the Witch of the Wind and Stars was able to send a message to Ame in the Citadel so easily?
THE COVEN OF ELDERS
In Episode 23, Mr. Soup tells us that Grandmother Wren was at odds with the Coven for many years— there was a plan she did not want to go along with, and had been searching for a long time to find a way to convince her sisters to do something else. We also see glimpses of this in Episode 15 in Grandmother Wren’s conversation with Mirara, the Witch of the Waning Moon. It’s a safe guess that this disagreement has to do with Wizards and the Citadel.
What Sly has divined regarding the upcoming Conclave (which we are told in glorious metatheatrical fashion in Episode 23 that “All things occurring as they have been seen. With perhaps one or two tricks, just to keep the story interesting.”)
That if Ame does not go to the North Pole in 3 days, the Coven will meet without her and that they will try to destroy her and in doing so the stations of Witch of the World’s Heart
One of them will make an argument that Ame’s existence threatens the nature of magic in Umora. The majority of times Ame wins that argument, it is because magically if they were to get rid of her station they would probably have to get rid of another.
If Suvi is not there as her advisor, Ame will die
We also know from Grandmother Wren that there is much the coven can do without full unanimity (but presumably would be far less powerful to do so), and the Coven is bound by laws of mutual respect and there will be tremendous repercussions if one insinuates that any of the other stations are not incredibly significant to the nature of magic itself.
But which of the members of the Coven of Elders might want the station of the Witch of the World’s Heart gone the most? WHO IS IN CAHOOTS? Is The Stranger involved? Is Eoighorain? Who has the most against wizards?
Marara, the Witch of the Waning Moon (Mirara? The transcripts use both spellings.)
The death of light, the end of might, the all consuming dread of night.
This is the obvious first suspect.
If that’s not a witch well on the pathway to wickedness, I don’t know what is.
The Witch subclass says of The Coven of the Wicked: “Members of this coven like to paint themselves as misunderstood victims, but it’s not tragedy that turns a witch’s heart to darkness—it’s the inability to let go of their suffering. A wicked witch might claim to be an enemy to all the world, but they always have one kind of person in particular—usually related to their past self, and what soured their magic—that they despise above all else. When you become wicked, choose a virtue that is anathema to you: courage, fairness, generosity, innocence, loyalty, kindness, optimism, prudence, selflessness, or being in love. Beings that display this virtue are especially tempting targets for your ire.”
Like…you can’t have a piece of such juicy and gorgeous and cool design like the Coven of Wicked (and the rehabilitation therein) and not have a wicked witch in your story!
Additionally, Marara’s domain is the Witch of the Waning Moon. The death of light, the end of might, the all consuming dread of night. The moon wanes as it goes from full to new. When Ame meets her on the road, to light her way to the cottage, the harbinger of her arrival is a candle on the verge of going out.
Mirara’s domain speaks to cycles, to the fall of the mighty and to the fear of the unknown. It is also of the night, possibly putting her in natural cahoots with The King of Night who also hates wizards. The conversation he has with Eursulon and the conversation Ame sees in the water between Marara and Grandmother Wren, both in Episode 23, certainly mirror each other.
She is also often accompanied by wind, which speaks to Indri’s domain, the Wind and Stars, another one of night.
Indri, the Witch of the Wind and Stars
Of frost and stone, of ice and throne, the ruler of the self alone.
Indri’s domain is the wind and stars, a domain that also overlaps with an appellation of the Pilgrim Under the Stars. In the letter to Ame she tells her she knew Ame has assumed her station from how the stars aligned. She has an apprentice we know little of. She also did the most to reach out to Ame to arrange a meeting.
Did she reach out to Ame so it was more likely she would attend the Conclave?
The ice fairies say when they find Ame and Suvi in the bathroom, “long lancing spells and vexing hexes of old were made to pierce and plunder through the guises and guile of wizards”
Were they able to reach her because Ame was easier to track when she was unconscious under Indri’s spellwork? Is it because she does not like wizards and is practiced at secretly penetrating their defences? The ice fairies were particularly silly, one being evidently foolish. Were they perhaps sent by Indri by way of her apprentice, who is lonely and excited to meet another Great Apprentice? “Hexes of old” does imply that Indri may be practiced at getting through Citadel defences.
Does Indri have any pull over celestial movements? When discussing that summer and Eoighorain with Suvi, Steel says “all of that changed as the celestial path shifted ever so slightly. And that slight slight shift meant that all of a sudden, you could teleport anywhere, pretty much unstoppable, very easily.” Grandma Wren also speaks of stars to Ame like they have personalities. Could Indri have eased the way for the eras of easy teleportation? Did she ever go on long and friendly flights among the stars with Grandma Wren? Is her witchcraft more divinatory? I think Indri falls on the side of wanting to stop wizards, but something in my gut says she does not want to see Ame dead.
Hacaea, the Witch of the Woodland Green
The holly branch, the towering oak, the limb and leaf an thorn her folk.
We know little of Hacaea so far, but I think she’s absolutely in cahoots mostly because she would have perhaps one of the greatest motives to hate wizards and want them gone, on account of the whole them turning a great forest into a huge snowy, mirror-y desert and a wizard tower who’s aerith depository is probably doing kind of fucked up stuff to the biome. We know she does not have an apprentice and I think Brennan singling her out as the one Ame could imagine hanging out with was in part was that it would hurt more when she’s in ASSASSINATION CAHOOTS. Might have sent Ame the letter on bark.
Grimoire, the Witch of the Wild Hunt
Where beasts have tread and monsters fed, the bloody fang and maw hath led.
We also do not know much about Grimoire. We know she has an apprentice, and has so far been characterised as much more feral and concerned with catching and eating things. She might have also sent Ame a letter on bark. I think there is more with her connection to monsters and possibly to Gaothmai, and Eoighorain?? Certainly there is more to her than meets the ear. Again I think Brennan could have been trying to be tricky in his comments about her, trying to make her seem less important early on than she will be.
THE STRANGER
Who has held his breath since the dawn of time, the Pilgrim Under Stars, the Man in Black, the King of Night. Who attacked Grandmother Wren at the Grove of the Well and who has been moving across the world in a way Grandmother Wren could not see since Ame was a very little girl, who came to the cottage the moment after Grandmother Wren passed when the station was at its most vulnerable and requested entry, and who does not like wizards.
The strings I am most interesting in detangling here, are his possible connection to Wavebreaker, and his connection to roads which we know are incredibly significant to Grandmother Wren’s wards.
In Episode 7 of Children’s Adventure after the cast each takes a turn describing a detail of Wavebreaker Brennan narrates “So you have this moment together in the hottest days of summer as this suit of armor hands you this thing”. The next scene, after taking a moment to roll some ability scores, is at night.
Suvi then rolls a 3 on a perception check, “So with a three in perception, you look and see that you were mistaken. You look deeper at the shadow and it's just a shadow. But it was a scary shape from one of the trees”
Ame investigates the spot the next day.
Taro had said back in Episode 01 “It will help you find whatever is keeping these secrets, and perhaps whoever took them.” What if that connection goes both ways for a powerful spirit with so many titles? One who has taken care to obscure himself from Grandmother Wren?
In Episode 23 once Eursulon entered the fire, eventually travelling from the Citadel to actual Gaothmai, the Stranger caught up to him enough to have a conversation real fast.
As evidenced above (if that figure of shadow is indeed The Stranger, but the point still stands anyways) he is also connected to the motif of roads.
The final line of Episode 01 (which as the last line from the first episode, carries extra emphasis):
From episode 21:
From episode 22:
But in speaking of roads we must remember,
The iron shoe of horses. 3 iron nails sprung out of a signpost. Could a connection to the Stranger cause Eoighorain’s blood to smell like iron?
EOIGHORAIN
In my folders of screenshots, within the one labelled conspiracy, this one is named “the unexplained Eoighorain fragment.” As I mentioned before, Brennan is playing the long game- placing pieces on the board, but he could not yet know all the ways they could move. Eoighorain is placed like a question mark, with great manoeuvrability. He could go one way or another. Too many NPCs think him untrustworthy and it makes me wonder if he is the flashy distraction of a magic trick so we don’t see what the other hand is doing.
This one goes down a few rabbit holes.
We learn much about Eoighorain in episode 16 from Suvi and Steel’s conversation but also, from the diagrams (which are 150 years old, made in the first 50 years of the Citadel) of garrans, which are a creature of the world of spirit. We learn that Eoighorain’s name means “Of Garran” or “Son of Garran” and that iron was always at the forefront of his smell, with the party speculating that the iron is perhaps used to bind him.
In Episode 15 Grandmother Wren tells Ame she has doubts about how loyal Eoighorain ended up being. Steel tells Suvi in episode 16 that she discovered recently, in the weeks preceding the start of the campaign proper, that Eoighorain was alive, and this is why she sent the books including the diagrams made to smell like him to Grandmother Wren, in an act of admitting defeat and hoping she would be able to find him where she could not.
She says she saw him at Fort Keiran, doubts herself, and then sounds sure.
Why was Eoighorain at Fort Keiran? Because the revolutionary forces of Gaothmai are fighting the Citadel? Because he is working with the Cauntaranacht now and perhaps always was? A secret third thing? Was it even him after all? Was Steel about to say that exact same scent? Was their revolution successful and so their forces hold much more power in Gaothmai now? Is that one of the reasons the war is spinning up again?
We see Gaothmai ourselves only briefly, in Episode 23. Eursulon, after falling and landing in an unfamiliar deep forest, meets monsters caught somewhere between spirit and mortal, left to fester— simian feline monstrosities, somewhere between a baboon and a panther with diseased scaly and mottled hide. Brennan describes it like a yard with attack dogs in it, who attack because of his citadel badge and who eventually leads him to Kalaya.
(And sidebar I think he sees a dragon?? Is the war spinning up again because of a dragon? Was part of the Coven’s plan raising a dragon to raze the Citadel and everyone else? Was that how the world burned before? I just realized now that Eursulon saw a dragon and I am spinning up about it for sure.)
But back to Eoighorain, and Steel thinking that he caused the death of Soft and Stone, who Steels tells us were prolific double agents with connections in both Rhuv and Gaothmai that pay dividends to this day.
Grandmother Wren tells Ame in Episode 15 that Eoighorain was one of the outside members of the Citadel to alert the Acadator to the presence of agencies, jokingly referred to as the League of Whispers, which were dedicated to the downfall of the Citadel from within. She also says “When Steel came to collect Suvi at the end of that summer, the primary targets of their investigation were dead or missing.”
Additionally in the Children’s Adventure:
Steel tells us in Episode 16 that the mission Soft and Stone were on the summer that they died was searching for a dangerous sorceress named Nahani. This was the first time that instead of her and Eoighorain protecting Soft and Stone, he alone was charged with their safety. When Steel returned to collect Suvi she came back with scars on her face, and a new cloak.
Why was Steel left behind? Was she needed by the Citadel elsewhere? A matter of trust? Is she telling the truth? Did Soft and Stone leave Steel behind so she would not know they were possibly acting against the Citadel? Because they knew she would not betray it? Was she really not there, or is that a cover up? Is guilt one of the forces that pulled her to be mother to Suvi? I don’t really think she killed them but I am not discounting that possibility.
I think Steel believes this wholeheartedly, but I don’t for a second.
Stone is a very prolific abjurer, who also studied divination. Just saying.
Additionally,
This little nugget in Gaothmai perked my ears up the first time it was said. Ket, you say? Like Suvirin Kedberiket? Like Aman Kedberiket? THAT WAS A CHOICE BRENNAN. IN A WORLD WHERE NAMES ARE VERY IMPORTANT, IN A CULTURE WHERE NAMES ARE KEPT SECRET. IN A NATION SOFT WAS A DOUBLE AGENT FOR. WHO, 2 YEARS BEFORE SUVI WAS BORN, FREED A NUMBER OF SPIRITS, ONE OF WHOM WAS KALAYA, WHO THEN SETTLED DOWN IN GAOTHMAI. AND HE HAS A COLLEAGUE WHO IS THEORETICALLY A REVOLUTIONARY FROM THERE. A COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT. Anyways I think Soft is from Gaothmai.
In conclusion: ?????????????????? I’m really excited for arc 3 because I really love witches and I don’t really know what up with Eoighorain, and I adore but do not trust Steel (but what else is new) and I do think there’s a dragon in Gaothmai apparently?? And I think The Stranger has a connection to Wavebreaker and I think Soft is from Gaothmai and I really don’t know if I can trust Indri or not but I hope we meet her apprentice and some more ice fairies.
#wbn#wbn spoilers#wbn pod#the wizard the witch and the wild one#worlds beyond number#wbn meta#wbn conspiracy board#im moving this over from my google doc in pieces and it is 12:25 on the monday (tuesday) night before the episode drops#the conclave arc#and I do have work in the morning and I still must turn my outline on the stranger and eoighorain whose name I can finally spell now#into the writing of the thing#this was lowkey and then high key my project within arcs and I did not think it would take as much time as it did and then was FOLLY#but ya start collecting screenshots from transcripts and then ur collecting them for everything#anyways I think I can push it another hour so lets hope I can get er done and hopefully someone will read it#and its not all immediately disproven in 6 hours#a crack theory that came to me in a fugue state I did not include is that Eoighorain is the Scalvi's apprentice who betrayed her#okay it took me to 3am and the episode technically beat me by 45 minutes but I will take it#long post
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#this is sooo dumb im so sorry#but like also#am i wrong#thordak#thordak the cinder king#the chroma conclave arc is SO fucking good#tlovm#tlovm spoilers#critical role#vox machina#cr1#the legend of vox machina#legend of vox machina#lovm#tlovm s2#andis thought geyser
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i literally can't think about tlovm or so many conflicting emotions hit me at once that i get a headache
#conclave arc ending next week (WHERE IS THE SPIRE OF CONFLUX. BITCH) and completely different perc'ahlia make me so mad...#''cloak and dagger'' means we are probably getting whisper which i was ok with leaving out but yay#but scanlan is in wildemount on the other side of the world for cloak and dagger#i'm so so scared they just kicked him out of glintshore entirely...#and then i think about glintshore and wahhh it's my favorite hdywtdt of all timeeeeeeeee#tlovm spoilers
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All hail to the Cinder King. Here is finally Thordak, the ancient red dragon who leads the Chroma Conclave. Voiced by Matthew Mercer on @criticalrole and by Lance Reddick (who passed away last year) on The Legend of Vox Machina.
#critical role#critical role fanart#critical role art#critrole#critrole fanart#critrole art#cr campaign one#vox machina#vox machina fanart#vox machina art#the legend of vox machina#thordak#thordak the cinder king#the cinder king#chroma conclave#chroma conclave arc#red dragon#ancient red dragon#dungeons and dragons#dnd#dnd5e#rpg#ttrpg#animation#prime video#fanart#art#artists on tumblr#patreon#patreon artist
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while i’m here, behold the most pathetic creature that has ever fallen out of the fade and the worst possible guy to have gotten a minor cult developing around him:
#sander trevelyan#accidentally booting up dai with the qunari starting armour mod was the best thing to happen for his character i think#part of his canon arc now that he got robbed on his way to the conclave and had to be saved by some vashoth mercs#very good for establishing how astonishingly unprepared he is for any kind of leadership role#+ bonus points for the ‘a hoe never gets cold’ vibes brought on by wearing THIS fit in ice cold snowy weather#fitting! for a guy who’s gotten passed around like… half his companions 😭
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