#that i wrote it all out of my system

[hxhhasmysoul]

This is a postscript to my exchange with frost-felon. You can read that here but it's a long and unpleasant read. It sometimes takes me while to truly understand why I feel the need to engage such people. Like it's always something to do with my principles and I mentioned that in my last reply in that exchange. But it's sometimes more than one thing at the same time. I wrote that, I slept on it and this bit still clogged my thoughts.

"You then told me that you understood where I was coming from, but thought it necessary to talk down to me about how you thought my approach wouldn't achieve my goals. That was completely unnecessary."

Why didn't I touch this in my other post? Like I felt there was something here. I reread my post from yesterday to see if I perhaps didn't forget to paste this somewhere but it didn't fit anywhere. And then I noticed how gross my wording got at times. And it clicked. Why do they even have an analytical framework to begin with?

My main conclusion after analysing some of their texts is that they are trying to create a distorted image of what those texts are. Namely they are trying to give them a veneer of academic writing to imbue them with extra authority. When they are just presenting their casual opinions, some better some worse argued and evidenced by the text of the JJK manga. 

I will not say that fandom wank or fandom meta has never reached rigour of academic discourse, I mean we’re all wilding out here, some of us are surely like that. But generally the wank level is not that. 

And that's fine btw, fandom is a hobby, not a job. Academia is a job. (Unless you’re an academic researching fandom.) As long as we’re all honest about what we’re doing. 

Why do I have this rather uncharitable opinion of this person?

In their posts they constantly refer to some deep analyses they are working on, to researching things, to in-depth work with the text they are performing and planning.  They expect citations. They use footnotes. They use words like “scope”. But most importantly they have a framework which they love to explain and refer to.

An analytical framework is very academia coded, you don’t really do that casually. 

So far so good, right, maybe they are actually doing something academic.

Nah. 

They spiralled the moment their framework was questioned, and in academia the first thing you need to be able to do is defend your framework.

In my first reply I challenged it in a very weak way, too. One that is very easy to throw back at the challenger. Not my best work.

“As per what you consider manga canon, it's your choice to treat an unfinished work like that. A choice that I personally, as an author of yet unfinished and serialised works, find kinda cruel. But I understand where it comes from, even if I don’t think an approach like that achieves your goal of analysing Gege, or any other author, as a storyteller.”

I spoke very casually, clearly showed that my criticism has an emotional component and I gave no true explanation to either of the claims I made, namely:

1. That the framework is kinda cruel.

2. That it’s ineffective for their stated goals.

The most effective way to challenge claim one is to ask why. The statement has no grounds provided, so making its author clarify it actually forces them to defend it, they have to do the work. And once it’s less general and has arguments behind it, you can attack the arguments. Which is much easier than contending with an adjective.

The second one can also be dealt with the same way. But in the case of a framework it’s not the best course of action.

The best one is to present your reasoning for your framework. 

The point of the framework, in simplistic and reductive terms, is to have the best suited tool to achieve your analytical goal and to be able to define the scope of your inquiry. And also to be aware of the limitations of your approach. 

That's why I suspect that in this person's case, the academic trappings are just that, theatre.

They reacted to me challenging their framework with: “that’s so rude of you, you hurt my feelings”. When a framework challenge should always be met with: “Bestie, don't even try, I have this rock solid reasoning behind it.”

As far along as they seem to be in their primary reading of the text, they should have the justification of their framework nailed down, they should be able copy paste it or link it with the addition of the gif of the dick Gojou drew.

Instead, apart from clutching their pearls, they explain their framework through their analysis goals, namely:

“I'm sorry, but I do not take anime material into account when describing how Gege writes these characters, since I can't cleanly divide what Gege had full control over (if anything)³, and given that the anime itself could be considered something of a do-over for the manga, for better and for worse. I'm down to discuss the anime, but for these posts going over my thoughts on Gege as a storyteller, I'm more interested in looking at how the manga chapters were handled.” “Yes, I am choosing to analyze JJK's effectiveness as a story by what is in the story. ”

Which is putting the horse before the cart. “How” does not prove the effectiveness of the method. It needs to be “how” and “why” together - in what way doing the analysis like this allows you to reach your goal.  

So let’s try to string something together based on my recent exchange with them. Maybe like this: 

Definition of the text first:

I define the text as the unfinished and ongoing manga Jujutsu Kaisen by Gege Akutami as translated by (translator or translators) and available here (link). I chose this translation as the primary version of the text for my analysis after thorough research into the translational landscape surrounding the manga. My methodology was as follows: I put “jjk manga” into the search engine and clicked the first few links to find the website that worked best. This methodology was slightly revised close to the end of the manga, when I chose to consult other translations (link), (link) to see how they handled 2 specific chapters. 

(I have no clue which translation they are using, or how they found it, obviously. They weren’t kind enough to bring it up.)

I’m using the literary theory definition of text / literary criticism (full definition maybe with source) to analyse the text because I think that a text placed within these constraints is the version of the text that the author had full control over.  I define “full control” as what the author could do under time and contractual pressure, with very hard to establish editorial input from Shounen Jump (both in terms of volume and quality), and with the constant mental pressure of presenting unfinished work to a modern audience that will turn to social media to voice all of their opinions and is not above death threats, while not knowing how long the story would end up to be or whether it’d even get the chance to reach any conclusion as it could’ve been cancelled at any time before it had gained some popularity.  I think that excluding all editorial input by the author into the work, including but not limited to (...), post the initial publication of each chapter in the Japanese version of Shounen Jump and cognisant of the conditions under which they were created, really reflects Gege Akutami’s full skill as a storyteller. It also further bolsters my conviction that I’m working with a text that the author has full control over, especially that the author is incapable of, and likely never will be capable of leveraging the knowledge of a full finished story to edit it without the scrutiny of the public or presenting it to the public after going through the full process of finishing it and editing it after that. 

Yeah, I know, I can’t imitate academic language to save my life. But I think I got the “how” and “why” bits right.

Wait I forgot about the limitations:

I don’t see any limitations to this method. 

Okay, I had my fun. But the sad truth is that this is the image of their  framework that can be gleaned from my exchange with them. 

This leads me to believe that they don’t know what an analytical framework is for. This and the fact that they never used terms like “literary criticism” or “literary theory” in the exchange with me when that’s where their methods come from. Or that they use “story” instead of “text”. Or that they weren’t expecting challenges to their framework, just to their opinions. That they interpreted a criticism of their framework as a personal attack. 

But if you’re dealing with something that has a weak framework it’s the first thing you challenge. It’s fair game in academic discourse. (It’s also pretty good when discussing political issues, for example forcing someone to explain how their ideology would achieve their declared goals, etc.)

That’s why putting on academic airs is a bad idea if you don’t have the solid foundations for it. I would never try it. I have no patience for the rigour that it would require of me. I actually tried to properly write the pseudo academic bits here and I just gave up because it’s really hard to do. Also in reality the methodology would be far more detailed, a few pages long at least.

In the context of fandom putting on such airs feels deceptive. Fandom is full of all sorts of people, including people who haven’t had the opportunity to or chose not to experience academia. Or whose educational journey didn’t put them anywhere near academic text analysis. Using the trappings of academia may mislead them to give the author of the text too much credence.

I don’t like people who do that. 

That being said I don’t think frost-felon should stop what they are doing. I find projects like theirs beautiful in theory. 

But I think they should either lose the academic veneer or embrace it in earnest. 

Whichever way they will go, one of the two I proposed or continue as they are, I think they should really ask themself what purpose does their method serve because I think there’s no way to defend its usefulness for their stated goals.

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

A fierce duel commences!

[ganondoodle]

(Original art) Xaror, any pronouns, species (?), age (?)

short summary about them; they act as both an antagonist and an ally since they are only really interested in what they want or whats fun to them, they are immortal and call themselves 'death itself' since they have a special connection to souls (being the only one able to communicate with them) and the ability to seperate souls from their bodies in such a way that nothing can harm the soul afterwards their main goal is to .. bother and disturb the 'celestials'*, which they hate, as much as they can, breaking into their palace, freeing prisoners, destroying research, destroying the place, and most importantly, making as many souls unusable to them as possible-

they dont want to destroy the celestials though, they cant fight them anyway and this game of doing 'good' only with the goal of annoying them is their most treasured activity, so Xaror doesnt intend to stop them from killing or hurting anyone, only from harvesting what they are actually after (though Xaror doesnt actually care as little as they think they do about people, and has a soft spot for demons)

most of their appearance is later into the story; Zaphira (the empress) had been in coma and the medical facility she was treated in was destroyed by Shargon (orange eyed demon who acts as her bodyguard for the first part) in an attempt to save her from her estranged relatives taking over her country after they heard of her decline in health, she is believed dead but washes up on the shore of the mountain Xaror resides at years later (it has a reason, too much to write here) and they slowly nurse her back to health, the reason they give for it is that they found their first encounter very fun, thats all (is it?)

(more lore under the cut bc this is already so long .. im trying to keep it short q-q ......... this is stuff i have been working on since i was a kid so uh, some things might be cheesy but i cant change them anymore ..)

just to get some basics out of the way; theres three worlds, the celestials palace, human world and demon world, each are their own planet connected via different gateways

*celestials (possibly not final name, loosely based on angels) are the last remaining "survivors" of their planets demise, when their world died the most powerful among them cannibalized the weaker to sustain themselves until there were only less than 10 left, who each turned into different beings from it and dont resemble their own people much anymore, they built a palace from what was left on their world that protects them from space as its atmosphere collapsed shortly after- however they still needed something to live off; they discover the human world and are delighted to find rather short lived people with powerful souls, the best kind of sustenance for them (now), they aim to herd them like cattle, but a problem arose when it turned out another world has long been in contact with the human world; demons

demons are semi immortal creatures that act as protectors for their world, protection they extended, more or less secretely, to the human world ensuring them a long and secure life- the celestials need them to die at their whim though (demons are few in numbers, hard to kill and rarely have offspring, not an ideal target); as they worked out a plan on how to get rid of demons one of the celestials, Xanthriel (time) grew somewhat fond of people as they spent alot of time in the human world to observe and research them; in the end turning on their own completely, but losing the fight against Uriel (knowledge)

Xanthriel was supposed to be executed for their betrayal, but it doesnt work, instead they are splintered into many parts after a lot of struggle, most body, memory and most strength is one part (ending up as motionless forever bleeding corpse kept locked up in the palace), the rest is some time later gathered together and reforms as a seperate, weak mockery of them, they embody Xanthriels emotion- Xaror, without memory, strangely cut to pieces (hence all the missing limbs and broken halo) but driven by an unstoppable desire to disturb the celestials (they live seperate long enough to each become their own person, at some point Xaror discovers Xanthriels body after all and they merge back together, though as they are now two, Xanthriel only takes over once directly after merging, stays silent for a long time and lets Xaror be themselves, only later revealing that they are there at all .. hiding perhaps- i rarely have specific ideas for voices, but Xanthriels is like, like coarse rocks being violently rubbed against each other, less voice more noise)

(also, the celestials use Xanthriels blood from the day of their execution to create a plague that nearly wipes out all demons, only the youngest of them survived, effectively robbing them of everything, culture, history, knowledge etc- as demons rarely have children, like a complete restart of their society, they disappeared from the human world, and over time being largely forgotten as actually existing- the celestials wanted them all gone however, so they kept kidnapping them to try and find somethign that would work similarly against the young ones too (and then in general, bc the only usable blood of Xanthriel was from the day of their fall, and that has long since been used up) one of the young ones was Shargon, he was the only one still alive from his group

(also, the celestials use Xanthriels blood from the day of their execution to create a plague that nearly wipes out all demons, only the youngest of them survived, effectively robbing them of everything, culture, history, knowledge etc- as demons rarely have children, like a complete restart of their society, they disappeared from the human world, and over time being largely forgotten as actually existing- the celestials wanted them all gone however, so they kept kidnapping them to try and find somethign that would work similarly against the young ones too (and then in general, bc the only usable blood of Xanthriel was from the day of their fall, and that has long since been used up) one of the young ones was Shargon, he was the only one still alive from his group (he wasnt the strongest or special, he was jsut the last in the row and always got the lowest dosage) when Xaror found them in yet another break in into the palace and got him back to the demon world .. where he was promptly blamed for the others that were taken and treated like a pretender/fake/spy bc what he got put through changed his eye color (something that demons cannot change in any form) to one that does not exist among 'real' demons (orange ... notice the inner color of Xarors broken halo? :) ), some even suggesting killing him, but none of them were brave enough to do it (they were all kids still) .. except Eadrya (the big blue-ish one, largely regarded as the strongest demon alive) but Shargon managed to escape, and since then lived largely in isolation- this is part of why he is so hated, and why he starts to spend so much time in the human world after rediscovering the pathway there)

[little-pup-pip]

hi! can i please get a moodboard themed around an ox? gender neutral leaning slightly masc (but gender neutral in a pinch) and yes please to the paci and unstudded please! my petre name is clover if that helps with figuring things out :)) please lmk if i���ve missed anything and have a great day!!

Sure!!

[wisteriagoesvroom]

gonna go far

🍊 an oscarmark fic ❗so, the mentor/mentee dynamic... in this essay i will– 🖋️ 1.7k words, rated T/M 🔗 read on ao3

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Mark pulls the door shut. The light is always bright in here, harsher. Oscar’s teammate seems to like the dimmer, but Oscar barely adjusts anything. The driver in question sits on the floor, with his back against the rectangular sofa. Elbows on his knees, hands wrapped around his third place trophy, copper against the orange of the race suit still tied at his waist. Oscar’s face is downturned, obscured by a team cap. Mark cannot see his eyes.

[the-way-astray]

i am not ready to get pissed off today but can we not ruin people’s positive fandom experiences. can we not. if someone makes a post saying “i love sophie foster!!!!” can we not go to that post and immediately comment “well i don’t like her”. if someone shares a headcanon and it clashes with yours can we not go to that post and reply “well that headcanon is WRONG because HERE’S WHAT CANON SAYS”. if someone talks about a ship can we not go on that post and start ripping it to shreds. can we not. you are aware that just scrolling past without engaging is an option, right? you know you can tamp down the urge to express your negative opinion where inappropriate, right? make your own damn post!!!! can we not ruin positivity posts for the people that like/made them. can we please not. please.

[kakusu-shipping]

Wait I almost completely forgot I had a dream the other night that I got an Anon Hate message that claimed to be Koro-Sensei saying he would never love me due to the Proshipping thing and I just remember replying with a 20 bullet point list of How to Spot a Fake Koro-Sensei, as reviewed by Koro-Sensei.

Was a little sad to wake up and find the ask wasn't real.

[minamaybe]

comeback!!

hey everyone! <3 i‘m not sure if anyone remembers me but i used to be quite active here a few months ago - then life got in the way (i graduated and subsequently fell into a deep hole of despair and confusion lol) and i couldn’t keep up with this blog and this community. i‘ve really missed it tho and would like to come back to y’all again, and to re-awaken my love for writing that got lost somewhere between stress and heat exhaustion. i‘m really really excited to see what you‘ve all been up to <3

[thickenmyblood]

I'm in love with HIUH!! Your brain is amazing for coming up with this!

When you edit your drafts, do you keep what you cut out? Because I would happily read 100k+ words of whatever you come up with :)

hello!!

sometimes i do keep things that i cut out because I know I'll need them for future chapters or future projects, but most of the time I delete them forever. i know it doesn't look like it because the fic is massive but I have trimmed it so much over the years you wouldn't believe what the og draft looked like. trust me, you wouldn't love those 100k words of scraps!!

[sysig]

Handplates and haircut and more Handplates after that (Patreon)

[dbphantom]

Hate having adhd went to go work on my fallout modpack, got distracted while going to disable the steam overlay, ended up in the points shop, went to go edit my profile, decided to change my pfp, found a buried folder I forgot existed, found some old Veneer art I forgot existed, spent 45 minutes looking at all the old photos, STILL HAVE NOT TOGGLED ONE SIMPLE OPTION THAT SHOULD'VE TAKEN 30 SECONDS AT MOST

[alltheoutsinfreeeee]

is there any magical girl anime still out there that doesn't have any fanservice? Shows like Precure, Cardcaptor Sakura or Madoka?

And if there isn't, are there at least any shows where the fanservice isn't with elementary school girls?

[vulpixelates]

my wife's staycation is officially over 😔😔 she just went into her little office 😔 i am in mourning

[spaceratprodigy]

could i bother u for more thoughts on faith and max in a mock apple orchard 🥺👉🏻👈🏻

@gayafsatan — I would absolutely LOVE to brainstorm some fun ideas of them in a mock apple orchard!!

I've been replaying again so they've been rotating around in my mind a lot extra hard and was especially thinking about mock apple picking bc the botanical labs also has a lil orchard where you can pick mock apples up off the ground! But I'm currently in Roseway so oughhh.. ideas....

I want you now I am going to ramble a LOT so please bear with me I swearsies it'll be more fun if we get the full lore dump from my brain 😩💖💕

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👇 ROSEWAY THOUGHTS 👇

(I AM GOING TO TALK ABT ROSEWAY THOUGHTS AS A WHOLE AND THEN EASE INTO SOME SILLY MOCK APPLE ORCHARD IDEAS AT THE END OKAY. OKAY ILY THANK YOU).

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My thoughts are very chaotic and rambly so let me try to walk though my ideas lmao

Roseway is typically where I peg Faith's death wish arc happening, and to summarize what all that entails, it's when the mask slips and the weight of everything finally hits her in full force.

I always envision this story happening over a long period of time so a lot of time has passed since first arriving at Edgewater and the Groundbreaker.

Halcyon. Her situation. Her identity. The life Phineas threw her into abruptly and his expectations for her. Making split second moral decisions where no matter what someone is going to get hurt. Being so alien and alone, no one to understand her or believe in her predicament but having to be the mysterious competent captain regardless.

It finally gets to her. Bad. And she makes some self destructive decisions. She gets sloppy, careless, hoping someone else will end this nightmare for her. Until they almost do.

I am swiftly brushing past many details so we don't get too lost in the sauce. But Max went after her, found her collapsed and injured bad, carried her back to the ship for Ellie to do whatever she could, and then stayed by her side for as long as it took for her to wake up.

This is such a key moment for them getting closer. Because there was a lot of frustration and emotion and being forced to confront the possibility of feelings existing, but nothing they fully understand or are ready to acknowledge as such yet.

She tries to brush past the subject of what happened, deflecting everything until he raises his voice in a way he hasn't since she gave him the journal and she threatened he never talk like that to her again. And it was enough to break through her facade, for her to show just how utterly broken and vulnerable she is, and they have a proper fucking conversation about where she's at mentally. He still isn't ready for the truth about her life before. But it's a step forward.

There is a lot of patience and understanding and just. Yeah. A lot happens here. Some walls come down. There grows some room for them to become softer and closer over more time.

All of this is important because a short piece I had written a long time ago took place in this area roughly after this incident.

It was a personal outlet vent piece, I will be honest. When I wrote it it was after I had a very bad panic attack after an awful scare. And I wrote it into Faith because I just wanted to get some feelings from that experience out of my system.

The shortened version of that one is Faith recovering from a bad episode, trying to calm her breathing, waiting for her ears to stop ringing and for her vision to come back. Her legs gave out on her and she was sitting under the mock apple trees. Her voice locks up on her when she's seriously distressed. Yadda yadda yadda, Max had brought along his datapad so she could communicate anything important and she was incredibly confused because she knows he doesn't like using his datapad ever and then rendered even more speechless to know he brought it specifically for her in case something like this were to happen again. It ends with her just asking if he would keep talking to her, and they sit there under the mock apple trees for a while, in no particular rush to get anywhere.

And after this point, I think the mock apple orchards become a really peaceful, therapeutic spot for her when she just wants a moment to herself. Sits there, breathes, takes in the Roseway scenery and collects herself before jumping back into the horrors of Halcyon. Spends some time picking mock apples to take back to the ship.

I've been having a lot of ideas of her asking Max to go with her. I'm of the mind if she'd ask directly that he'd either decline, or at least pretend to be uninterested but she's the one who asked so he accepts the offer.

But I can see her being vague and just saying that she's heading out if he'd join her and she leads him to the orchards. By this point they're already often in each other's company, she indulges his interests often, letting him be the one who is finally listened to. But in general, they get along very well in conversation when it comes to a handful of similar interests and their personalities and attitudes bounce off of each other well.

(In my story anyway, since she spends an extended amount of time in Edgewater and the Vale, there was also a lot of time spent doing some early bonding with Max. So do with that info what you will. They're not likeee besties yet but they're much more than strangers by this point, ya'know? Just to get an idea of where their familiarity with each other is at and why there's enough respect and trust to some extent already existing. Not to mention how much time they had spent on the Groundbreaker).

They'd be having such a peaceful time away from the rest of the crew.

Oughhh hear me out, okay, Faith loves to bake. She doesn't even ask, she just makes Max hold her bag open while she starts collecting mock apples and after they finally head back to the ship she figures out how to make mock apple pie for the crew 😭 we already know Max doesn't care much for sweets (I wonder how sweet or tart a mock apple pie would be.. Faith girl what all Halcyon ingredients are you adding to that bad boy) but.. what if.... After everyone goes to bed...... He tries some anyway........ Because she made it..........

Most of what's bouncing around in my brain is them early on having wholesome bonding time in a spot just for the two of them. Just enjoying each other's company. Realizing they have genuine respect for each other, Faith feeling like she found a genuine friend who went to lengths further than anyone had in her entire life to make sure she survived. I am specifying Faith's feelings here intentionally. I write Max in a more complicated spot very blinded by his revenge scheme more or less unaware for a long while just how much the lines start blurring between his faith and his Faith. To put it succinctly. (Look I know I'm always drawing The Good Stuff™️ but in actuality their relationship is suchhhh a slow burn. They are not the most romantically inclined people lmao).

But also.. once she realizes she can talk to him when she needs to. I think coming back to this spot, off the ship, away from the crew, she just likes it there. She likes being there with him. She finds comfort in that spot.

OKAY BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE WOULD BE CUTE.... they should come back here.. post-scylla and post-gorgon...... Ya'know......... The first being when they establish not wanting to be apart and the second being when they want to make that partnership a permanent one......... ASKING HER IN THE MOCK APPLE ORCHARDS WOULDN'T THAT BE DARLING ough okay I need a minute my brain is going too fast to comprehend

My Roseway ideas aren't the most cleaned up I know BUT so many important bonding moments exist and oughhhh LOOSE IDEAS ARE STILL WORTH TALKING ABOUT OKAYYYYY

I just want them to go mock apple picking together and learn how to get smiles out of each other and not understand why it makes their chests hurt but they know they need to do it again

ACTUALLYYYYY post-scylla when he's much more mellowed out and they're the closest they've been I think would be so so nice. they'd be so much softer and he'd probably be so much more involved in wanting to enjoy silly lil activities with her.....

Currently imagining him reading out loud to her, all the conversations they'd have, maybe he brings his tossball cards to show her, maybe they bring one of the lil games, have a lil makeshift picnic....

Godddd the transition between just how much enthusiasm he shows spending time with her is enough to make me explode. Can you see my vision. The reluctance, to the hesitancy, to becoming absolutely inseparable.

I HAVE A LOT TO THINK ABOUT BUT I'M GETTING SLEEPY SO SENDING IT!!!!!!

Literally feel free to add on or share your own thoughts I'm begging you lmao I promise there is so much room for ideas to be fleshed out and better put together, I'm mostly just spitballing what all I think would be incredibly fun ideas to work with. Plus I'm kind of thinking across the timeline and how much their relationship would change between each visit. And how over time they would enjoy it more and more and make each visit more special than the last.

WAIT BEFORE I LOSE THE THOUGHT!! They make a stop RIGHT BEFORE HEADING TO SCYLLA TO GO TO THE HERMIT'S LODGE!! Oh that could hurt so good omgggg. Okay okay I need to stop now I NEED TO STOP.

[bijoumikhawal]

"Biden is the best choice and he's actually really empathetic and reasonable but also you can't wait for a candidate that won't do genocide and war crimes because to become a presidential candidate you have to be willing to do that" see what you fundamentally don't understand is I'm not waiting for a candidate that won't do war crimes, because I know that. I cannot morally stomach this system, it's a joke to claim its democratic, and AMERICA DELENDA EST. this country is a plague on this Earth

[shitouttabuck]

what do you do when the girl you spent the better part of the last decade in love with calls you up to tell you they dumped their girlfriend and quit their job and would you like to go spend a couple weeks on a beach in greece with them because they miss you and love you (not like that) . and you miss them and love them (not like that. anymore) and you’re probably not getting into grad school anyway and even if you did you can’t keep moving countries to start over because that doesn’t fix things and you could use the money you have saved that you were gonna put towards tuition to buy a plane ticket and sublet a beach villa instead. because you miss them and you love them and you’re tired of missing them and loving them has always felt good and you never feel good anymore and whatever maybe you can just have a lovely few weeks in fuckin greece and just. that’s enough you don’t have to try more than that they go back home and you stay on a beach in greece for as long as anyone else will remember . hypothetically. you should do that, right