#that can generate a male Gerudo

[limited-hero]

is aithne (dave) trans?

Bc if he's the son of Ganondorf there is only 1 gerudo male born every 100 years

And if ganon is that male how would Dave be gerudo and male? And regardless of genetics all gerudo would be born female.

Just a question for team Dave!

[totally-not-an-awkward-okapi]

Fuck it. Post WIP of Zelda Sophonts.

[parasolladyansy]

I have a question about your LoZ AU.

LoZ as a series has a bit of a weird depiction of humans. Hylians are almost always portrayed with pointed ears, although humans with rounded ears do show up sometimes (notable example is Wind Waker, where it's an actual plot point). I know this is a weird question, but would Ingo's, and by extension Ansy's, round ears be a point of interest to the inhabitants of Hyrule? I don't remember if BotW or Totk ever mentioned any area outside of Hyrule, and since everyone there have pointed ears, no one would have any idea as to where those humans came from.

Also, if I remember correctly, I think that pointed ears are a sign of a connection to the goddess Hylia. And given the generally polytheistic society in (most) Zelda games, then that could be another odd thing about Ingo and Ansy.

At the very least, their round ears would be a very clear indicator that both of them are not from Hyrule.

I know this is a weird question, but for some reason this topic has always been an interesting one for me. Especially since I remember my first reaction to Totk Ganondorf being that he's the only character in Totk and Botw with round ears. (Me : yeah sure his character design looks cool and he looks swoll, but LOOK AT HIS EARS-)

Pardon me, a flood of Zelda lore just rushed into my head lol - I’ve been a Zelda fan EVEN LONGER than I’ve been a Pokémon fan.

Okay, so round ears, our isekai-ed friends in Hero of Bombs / Isekai-ed Artist, & Ganondorf! (Lore dump ahead!)

It’s as you said - round ears have been a minor topic of interest in Hylian history, regardless of the timeline. I remember reading the booklet that came with A Link to the Past when I was little, about the creation of Hyrule & the Triforce. In there, they talked about how Hylians heard messages from the gods with their elven ears. One of the townsfolk in Ocarina of Time says the same thing.

Meanwhile, the earliest instance of round ears I can remember appearing is Ocarina of Time: ALL of the Gerudo (including OoT Ganondorf) had round ears - more on that in a bit. Another example came a little later in the Oracle games with the inhabitants of the other countries Oracle of Seasons / Ages Link visited (Holodrum & Labrynna), then again in Twilight Princess with the residents of Ordon Village (technically just outside Hyrule’s border).

(OoT Nabooru to the left, OoA Bippin & Blossom in the middle, & TP Colin to the right)

“Oh, okay. Gerudo & these folks from neighboring countries / villages just have round ears - easy!…Right?”

Until Breath of the Wild happened, reintroducing the Gerudo people after all these years with pointed ears like Hylians (not to mention different skin tones).

The Gerudo being an all female race (except for a male born every 100 years, often some incarnation of Ganondorf), they reproduce via men from other races (Hylian, Sheikah, etc). Stands to reason they would get traits from their fathers. Why, then, didn’t they have pointed ears back in OoT? Maybe round ears & darker skin used to be a stronger gene? I couldn’t tell you.

Why TotK Ganondorf has round ears might be an example of that gene coming back in the rarely born male, though honestly I just feel like they were just making a design choice to refer back to OoT Ganondorf, the very first depiction of him we saw in the games (though he was mentioned by name in A Link To the Past) as a love letter to us older fans.

(OoT Ganondorf to the left, TotK Ganondorf to the right)

I don’t think Nintendo wanted us to think too hard on it, or why some versions of Ganondorf actually does have pointed ears, even when it was the same Ganondorf (eg. OoT Ganondorf > WW Ganondorf / TP Ganondorf). All I know is that when ToTK Ganondorf stepped into the frame, my inner 10yo saw the villain from her nightmares (in the very best sense! 878)

As for Ingo & isekai-ed me (lol), the Hylians would probably just think of us as foreign visitors, maybe from Labyrnna / Holodrum. Link & probably some other key characters would know the truth, either by being told straight out, or intuition.

Side note: as Ingo muddles with his memories & ends up spending time with isekai-ed me, he wonders if we come from the same country / world (not quite, Ingo!)

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(Editing to add maybe it was also a symbolic thing - pointed ears symbolizing communication with the divine, maybe it’s to say “he refuses to listen to heaven”? Who knows.)

[dark-elf-writes]

Takeshi was always drawn towards rivers and lakes. Always drawn towards freshwater and the depths below. Sure the ocean is also appealing, but he prefers the lakes and rivers because their depths, whilst deep, are still knowable. There's an end and a beginning after all. (Zora have returned to the sea and live in the depths, but at heart they and their descendants will always yearn for the fresh waters of the land.)

Ryohei and Kyoko always dealt with the heat far better than most. They could stay in hot springs or saunas for hours without becoming exhausted and barely able to move, and they never experienced heat stroke in their life. (Gorons might reside within volcanos and in caves now, but those they see as brothers tend to pick up on their heat resistance after a couple of generations. A heat resistance that will always follow them, for they are Gorons in all but blood.)

Hibari always felt more at home the higher up he is. The cold barely bothers him, and as much as he stays in Namimori, he will always take a week to himself to climb the highest of mountains, all to see how small the world looks. (The Rito now reside on the Sky Islands, but their land locked descendants still yearn to fly.)

Haru, Nagi and Mukuro always feel more at home in forests and deep woods than anything else. It's a shame that Nagi and Mukuro barely have the chance to go to said locations though. Meanwhile, Haru has a dear friend in the woods. One guarding a particular sword. (Those taken in by Kokiri will always retain the effects. They will always favor nature, and this will affect their descendants. And Skull Kid is grateful to have a friend.)

Hana's maternal family was always female predominant. Her mother even makes jokes about their basically being zero males in her bloodline and her mother's mother's bloodlines. (The Gerudo genes are, very strong.)

Hayato, despite disliking it, was always offered help and assistance by people with white hair. They also offered him shelter, but understood when he was too wary to take up the offer. For the Sheikah know how deep paranoia can affect their descendants.

I am foaming at the mouth like yes yes this is perfect yes

Also this throws a hilarious light on Hibari bonding with Hibird. One that Link (who has never been afraid of Hibari and is the only one who can stand against him in a fight before flames were even known) once he starts to Remember things he’s never seen never lets Hibari forget.

[sunder-the-gold]

'Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom' is not "woke"

The writers do not divide all characters and civilizations into 'Oppressed' and 'Oppressor'.

In the battle of divine light and darkness, no one frets about who is in the wrong or right. Zelda and her people can survive only if the darkness is defeated, and Zelda and Tri do not question the worthiness of fighting to preserve their peoples' existence.

There is no class struggle. Only the Deku Scrubs lack a clear leader. The Gorons and Zora have their chiefs, and the Gerudo and Hylians have their royal families and castles. There is absolutely no narrative about the evils of monarchy or the necessity of direct democracy.

There is no insistence that success is only ever inherited or given, rather than achievable through personal effort. Or that everything in life is a Zero Sum game where someone can only gain by taking from others. A number of characters are committed to making things themselves, such as Dampe the engineer, the Hylian farmers, the Gerudo mango-researcher, or the Deku Scrub smoothie-sellers.

The Hylians occupy the most territory across Hyrule, but there is no narrative of conquest, occupation, colonialism, or imperialism. The chieftain of the River Zora expresses no dissatisfaction with his bamboo hut compared to the stone castles built by the Gerudo, Hylians, or even the Sea Zora. The Gerudo never mention an envy for the lands of the other peoples. The only thing the Deku Scrubs want from foreigners is their business, in fair exchange for Scrub-made goods.

There is no San Fransico; each nation is homogenous. Visitors from other peoples are welcomed, but no one feels guilty for living among their own kind. The Gorons do not try to make their home colder for others, the River Zora do not make their water saltier, the Sea Zora do not make their water less salty. Everyone is happy being separate and distinct, without anyone trying to be everything to everyone else.

The chiefs of the Sea Zora and River Zora do not decide to be more like each other, but instead remember to respect and cherish their differences.

There are no gender wars. Women do not complain about men, men do not complain about women.

The bombastic male chief of the River Zora uses his booming horn to reignite courage in the timid; the graceful female chief of the Sea Zora uses her elegant harp to calm the nerves of the unsettled. They both endanger themselves to save their people. They both admit their own faults with starting and perpetuating their personal quarrels.

The boisterous General Wright uses his brute strength to pick up an old lady and carry her off to safety. The soft-spoken Minister Lefte uses her considered words to coax a frightened child into following her to safety. With only a moment to react, Zelda's father reflexively throws his daughter to safety without regard for his own life.

Zelda does not become the protagonist of the story because she is a woman breaking free of male oppression. She became the protagonist because she had a responsibility.

Staff of Echoes

Nintendo as a rule begins envisioning a game around a mechanic and then builds a story around it. Echoes of Wisdom began with the Echoes mechanic.

The Echoes mechanic could not shine in Link's hands, because his sword, arrows, and bombs would always provide more direct and efficient ways to defeat enemies. Tears of the Kingdom had this issue, where Ultrahand and Zonai Devices were not only inefficient solutions to combat, but were basically non-existent for the final battle.

Contrast with the Celestial Brush Techniques of Okami, which played a vital role in conflict-resolution from the beginning of the game to the end.

Nintendo decided that if they were going to stray so far away from Link's normal style of play, that it only made sense to use a completely different character who wouldn't be expected to play the way Link does.

Just as Samus Aran and Metroid were born out of the desire to make a new platformer that didn't play like Mario Brothers. Mario didn't curl up into a rolling ball, or double-jump, or somersault in mid-air... so Samus would.

Building Up Without Tearing Down

Nintendo understood that they could make Zelda the hero of the story without needing to make Link unheroic.

(Indeed, this Link might be one of the most heroic of all, because he was adventuring all over the world saving people by his own initiative, long before anyone suggested he had an official duty or divine fate, or that the survival of the world hung in the balance.)

Nintendo also knew they could make Zelda the hero without insisting that she never needed the help of others, especially of men.

Just as, in most previous games, Link needed the help of Zelda, or Navi, or Midna, or various male or female Sages.

Ultimately

The game is written as a fun adventure; an escape into fantasy, away from all weighty issues in the real world. Not as a lecture or a Chick Track sermon.

The writers do not feel the need to educate you, only to entertain you.

All exposition only serves to explain the rules or backstory of the game itself, where those cannot be understood by lessons from the real world.

[cackled0g]

An interesting aspect of the Gerudo that I don't see explored a lot is the way that their society, despite having one (1) man is still patriarchal in nature. For a race of almost exclusively women, the Gerudo are like pretty obsessed with men. They have a genetic line of rulers passing from mother to daughter for generations...unless some other random Gerudo has a son. Gerudo Fortress is off limits to all men, but in excluding men it places an awful lot of focus on them. Gerudo are raised to grow up and seek out a male partner [1][2], Gerudo are raised to recognize their incompleteness without a man, Gerudo are raised in a culture that venerates the concept of men so much that to be born male in their culture is to automatically be deemed superior to all other Gerudo.

Do you know that thing where someone hates something so badly that it kind of becomes their whole personality? The sort of person who puts "anti h//t//l h@zb1n" in their bio because to them one of the most important things to know about them isn't their interests or hobbies but instead the thing they hate most fervently? That's the Gerudo. The Gerudo as a culture can be summed up as 'men dni (except for our one super special once in a lifetime guy)'. To be a Gerudo woman is to grow up hating and fearing men, who are outsiders and encroachers, but also to dedicate years of your life preparing for a husband. To be Gerudo is to be a powerful woman until you have a more powerful man at your back.

To me, this is vital to any reading of Ganondorf. Ganondorf is entitled. He feels entitled to rule Hyrule, he feels entitled to the Triforce, he feels entitled to the lives of everyone in Hyrule, and yes, you can make an argument that he does what he does for his people, he steals and lies and murders because the Gerudo are being crushed under the boot of the monarchy, but at the end of the day Ganondorf treats his people as poorly as he does the other Hylian races. The only named Gerudo in OOT who isn't literally one of his mothers, Nabooru, fucking loathes him, and does so because she finds what he is doing to be deeply dishonorable. "I'm completely different from Ganondorf. With his followers, he stole from women and children, and he even killed people!" [3] Given that Nabooru is highly respected [4] by the Gerudo, I find it hard to believe that she's literally the only Gerudo with reservations about the new king.

What does Ganondorf meaningfully do for the Gerudo? In the adult timeline of OOT, the Gerudo aren't living it up in Castle Town or controlling the agriculture in Hyrule--they're back at home being brainwashed with black magic [5] [6] [7] into being obedient foot soldiers by Ganondorf's mom(s). In TP Ganondorf is more motivated by petty revenge than by any love for his people, and although he may wax poetic about the cruelty of Hyrule in subjugating his nation in WW, he certainly didn't seem to be that bothered about the living conditions of the Gerudo back before they all got drowned. His whole wind monologue [8][9*] in WW is either meant to be understood as a lie, an attempt to manipulate Link, or is a rewriting of his motivations. In OOT Ganondorf seems purely motivated by a thirst for Power with a capital P, and I think that being raised in a culture that literally worships you as a god [10] might tend to have that affect on you, yeah. Ganondorf is like a distilled version of male entitlement, he's 100 proof fantasy misogyny. Ganondorf is king because kings are men and men are kings because men are superior. Ganondorf is special because he is male. Ganondorf is not the most powerful sorcerer of the Gerudo (pre-Triforce of Power, at least), he is not the most fit to lead (good leaders don't need to brainwash their followers), and he certainly isn't the best at combat, as his main attacks are throwing fireballs and going hog mode. It is his masculinity which makes him fit to lead and nothing else, and it is ultimately his culture's reverence of that masculinity that leads him down the path of evil.

On a Doylist level, this is because our real society is misogynist. The Gerudo are obsessed with men because OOT was made by men for boys. The Gerudo are all women because they're an orientalist stereotype--the Gerudo are the ultimate harem, an entire race that consists of one man and his many wives. Ultimately, no Watsonian reading of the text (playing of the text?) can overcome that. You can't separate the Gerudo as a race from real life racism and misogyny and imperialism.

On a Watsonian level, it compels me though. Feel free to check me on this--I am always willing to talk about Ganondorf and the Gerudo. Note that most of my text sources come from dialogue in OOT, and I am primarily talking about OOT-era Gerudo/Ganondorf.

[9*]- You can find the plaintext of this monologue on this site, the video linked in a fan made dub by user @mintchocolatechimp. (Sorry for the tag, I didn't want to post your work without credit. Nice video btw.)

[skyloftian-nutcase]

Thinking of Ganondorf being from an all female race of Amazonian warriors. Thinking of the sheer environment he grew up in affecting him. How, as a Gerudo, he would naturally be a huge feminist because he looks at his sisters and daughters and KNOWS their strength and endurance. He knows how powerful a woman is. Then he looks at the Hyrule and sees how comparably weaker the women of that country are, how they're expected to stay at home and tend to children while the men fight, how even though it's a matriarchy by nature of the goddess blood that flows through the daughters of the Royal Family, the Kings are looked to with more esteem than the literal goddesses in human flesh that make of the more feminine side of the family. Can you imagine how infuriated that would make Ganondorf???

Get comfortable, lovely, I have a lot of thoughts on this.

First, I think you’re right in that Ganondorf would respect and understand women’s abilities. 100%. I also think growing up in an all female society would have several effects on his behavior, such as making him more physically affectionate and nurturing than most men, because that’s the only example he’s had (assuming, of course, he ever was close enough to anyone to do that - I feel like being the Gerudo king kind of separated him from the others so he might be aloof). But I also think that, given their tradition of crowning the sole male as king, and given their seeming Othering of men (at least in botw/totk time, where they have to take a class to figure out how to deal with men, where girls can’t even look at men, where families are ripped apart because they disapprove of men so much - none of which I find remotely feminist or healthy), he’d have a bit of a superiority complex as well. Not over women specifically so much as everyone, but it would definitely include his own people.

As for how women are treated in Hyrule and his opinion on it… based on his behavior and words in TotK—based on the fact that, at least in most eras that Ganondorf lives in—he comes from a warrior culture, I don’t think he’d be insulted for the Hyrule women so much as insulted by them. Like, his thought would be that if they’re supposedly oppressed why don’t they fight back?? Why are they acting so weak and pathetic and docile?? He might dislike the culture altogether if it prevents women from fighting, but he’d also just… be insulted that they all just think, including the women, that they are incapable of fighting (which I don’t think is ever specifically actually the case. Like yeah, there aren’t tons of female fighters out there but nobody disapproves of it either - there are plenty of women adventuring in botw, Ashei is certainly an exception but isn’t seemingly ostracized, there are female knights aplenty in Skyloft culture, which was the foundation of Hyrule, Zelda herself wields a sword in several games). I don’t think he’d care about the idea that women are nurturers or better suited to care for the home and family, because frankly he has nothing to go on in terms of are men better at this or whatnot. He recognizes his own physical strength is greater than Gerudo women, but, due to the Othering of men anyway in Gerudo culture, it’s hard for him to know if that’s a general thing or if he’s just special. Because dude does have an ego, so he’d definitely think he’s special. But he’d also see that these Hylian women are naturally weaker than Gerudo women and would likely just view all of the Hylians as lesser anyway.

As for the royal family, it’s definitely matriarchal as you said, but I don’t think there’s an emphasis on kings being more important. It’s just that we’ve never seen the queens alive, and that’s a story choice rather than a reflection of the culture. Zelda is almost always underage, and her mother is nowhere to be found. You could assume she just isn’t ruling, I guess, but the only time a queen is specifically mentioned is to say she had died, devastating the whole family. When Zelda is of age, even though the game still calls her princess, she is very much in charge (such as in Twilight Princess and Hyrule Warriors). I think part of the reason Rhoam had such a stick up his butt in botw was because he was serving as king regent, essentially, out of his element, stressed as hell in an upcoming apocalypse, trying to keep his daughter alive, and preparing her to rule once she reached adulthood. His whole rant about her being heir to a throne of nothing would be more poignant (still awful, btw, but more poignant) if he was emphasizing that she was rapidly approaching age of adulthood, about to ascend to the throne, and the kingdom had no faith in her and could likely outright rebel against her as a result.

[luinhealthcare]

Gatto coming with Dr Time to cause a new trauma

Joking xD

I have a question ^^)/

In LU HC how do the boys deal with other Hyrule races (gorons, zoras, dekuscrubs...)? Do they have specialized personnel?

Haha what a fantastic gif 😂

Honestly, I kind of humanized the other races, they still have different aspects to them but they’re not, like, completely different races. I mainly did this just to fit with the modern/normal setting, but in retrospect it also makes my life easier for medical stuff, because I can’t be bothered to theorize all the different ways to treat appendicitis in multiple species 😂😅

I had a post a million years ago that kind of talked about the other races, but I have not had any luck finding it so I’ll just cover some things.

Zora are typically paler than Hylians, and their hair color is extremely different, matching canon Zora color schemes. They also typically have some facial markings. And they have a larger lung capacity. Their people live by the water. For example, Mipha is quite pale, has coral red hair and amber eyes, and has some dots in her cheeks that match her hair. She’s a little diminutive in build compared to a Hylian woman her age. Many Zora tend to be a little taller than Hylians, though. Oh, and their nails grow out sharp like claws.

Gorons and Gerudo are both buff, typically very tan to chocolate skinned. Gorons are shorter and stockier, with white hair and black eyes. Their population is overwhelmingly male. Gerudo are very tall, basically look very similar to their canon counterparts (except their proportions are NORMAL. Their hips drive me insane, like they look ridiculous. Or overwhelmingly underweight.), and their population is overwhelmingly female. But there are male Gerudos and female Gorons.

Deku scrubs, Kokiri, etc are all very rare people to find and typically are never seen in Castle Town. Time is quite familiar with them, though.

Rito hail from the mountains. They have exceptional vision and traditionally wear their hair in braids. Hair color varies - men usually have brighter colored hair than women, and their eyes can do that fun little pinning that some birds can do when they’re excited. Their culture is very bird oriented - Sky and Sun hail from their region (they’re not Rito genetically, but they’re basically Rito culturally)

As for the medical side, they’re generally the same on the inside. Some groups are predisposed to certain problems more so than others (real life example, people with African descent are more likely to get sickle cell disease than those with European descent), and there might be certain doses of meds or kinds of meds that vary (real life example, it takes way more anesthesia to knock out a redhead than other people). So no specialties to just take care of Zora vs Hylian, but probably there are those who specialize in research pertaining to one group over another.

[offeryoucannotrefuse]

So, I'm replaying Tears of the Kingdom, and I am really hyper critical of stuff, I realize that more and more, but god the game is a mixed bag. A really, really good mixed bag

On the one hand, I don't know if I will pick up Breath of the Wild in the next decade because of how much better the gameplay and combat and collectables and ultra hand and god the new enemies are so good. Horrablins are fantastic, just make a Proboscis Monkey evil, and Gleeoks and Frox are great, and of course it just has literally double the content of Botw, and it's just so good and I got the Official companion book (the game guide, not the masterworks) and it's great and I got the MM and Oot amiibo so now my paraglider can be Lon Lon Milk god it's a good game.

But on the other, they ditched breath of the wild faster than they ditched the Virtual boy. Every single shrine and guardian (minus one) has disintegrated, including the shrine of awakening, so now it's just a joke that the yiga hang out in. So they deleted shiekah tech to make the same thing for zonai And while there are freedoms that come with the more magical Zonai tech, Sheikah tech actually has a backstory, and feels older. Calamity ganon was a known quantity to a degree, so the entire world made an effort to end that war before it began, so there was a tech boom, just like in real life. Then, just like after actual wars, there was an arms collection and the government destroyed them. The Zonai just existed, found zonite, made a civilization that never existed in the first game (excusable, but still throws you off),went basically extinct somehow (how the heck is Zelda related to Rauru, and also pick a new name), made a pathetic defense against a much smaller force than Calamity ganon, and lost.

The only people who have a connection to the era of myth (the tapestry battle) are mummified in the shrines in botw, and it's as if their souls are speaking before they go. There aren't robots that still exist and just tell you everything. And it felt like a valid reset with Botw, a unified timeline, where nothing from the previous games can affect creativity, but come on, the second time collecting memories of someone you don't know before they make a novel sacrifice so that you can rescue them does not have the same effect. Also secret stones are really pathetic compared to divine beasts and the champions inherent powers, although I like the modern day sages powers, but having a ghost follow you around feels unnecessary when the method from botw worked so well.

And Ganondorf...

For those who don't know, Ganondorf from Oot, TP, and WW (and all the ganons) is the same individual Gerudo, after different events and timeline splits. And the most interesting appearance of him was in Wind Waker, when he explained that some of the reason he attacked Hyrule was because the desert was just a horrible place to live, and why should there be green field when his people go without water. It's like 2 lines, but it shows more humanity in a villain than any other Zelda game has done, and when I heard they were hiring Matt Mercer to do Ganondorf, I thought they would give him more of that, something beyond generic ruthless villain, a reason this Ganondorf, a separate extremely rare male Gerudo whose a mage and has the powers of evil and a second form he gets using his yellow magic item, was worth using instead of just letting Ganondorf stay dead.

But the writers didn't, they gave more cunning to the giant purple cloud shaped like a boar than the man.

Really, I just didn't like what they chose to keep from the breath of the wild and what they chose to ditch. Dispute that, I think it's my second favorite game on switch now.

[shadows-writing-lounge]

Ganondorf General Horny Headcanons Peen Edition

Content: dick having reader, you/your pronouns, Reader described as smaller than Ganondorf. Sparse bodily mentions. Kinks from the first post apply. Warnings show up as needed.

Ganondorf size, kinks and Gender Neutral Reader

Pussy Having Reader Version

Terms used: dick, cock, chest, bosom,

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Ganondorf appreciates his partner's form regardless of their assets. He doesn't go out of his way to make it known though the floodgates open of you where to ask about it.

The curves and lines of your body. Any definition of muscle or smooth area of fat. He squeezes your hips, thighs, stomach and chest, saying everything he loves about them and what he'd do to them if you let him.

After he's done with everything else he'll have you on his lap as he touches the cock between your legs. Pulling your legs apart to have more space for his big calloused hands. His hands tease the sensitive skin of your inner thighs before cupping your arousal. Praising you for being so excited and receptive for him.

Not up to penetration? Feel free to rub your cock against his cock. Even if he's soft, feel it grow hard under your ministrations. Thighjobs and assjobs welcome.

CW: Mentions of the chest. If you have chest dysphoria or dysmorphia please skip to the next red word. There also mentions of marking and hickies on the skin.

If you show insecurity about your chest. Small or large it does matter. He tells you to press your bosom against his erection. This erection is just for you. He cums where you want he has plenty to spare.

He'll take his time with your chest. If you're able to come from nipple stimulation be prepared for it to be exploited.

If you're able to visibly bruise he'd mark the flesh of your chest with bruises, hickies and bites. If you ask him to stop he'll relent.

Hylian

CW: Exhibitionism and possibly objectification? Go to the bolded word to skip.

Teases you about the nature of your relationship. Forsaking your race to be with him. A traitor, heretic even. Maybe he should dress you up pretty and parade you around. Looking only, please. Don't touch.

Nonetheless. He enjoys the mirth from it. Specially the size difference so easy to hold and to move. An almost mocking bite to the tip of your pointed ear before deciding you're properly prepared to take him.

Other Hylians might not be allowed to touch but if you're up to it the Gerudo ladies would be up to discovering the differences of Hylians and Gerudo anatomy. He doesn't trust most of the men under his rule but that doesn't mean he can't conquer up some phantoms just for your use.

Gerudo

Note: Heavily implied to be AMAB. Reader is strong.

A single Gerudo male is born circa one hundred years. This son is by law the king.

With this in mind it's obvious why Ganondorf choose to have you by his side. Two Gerudo kings ruling together. That's just history writing itself. Ganondorf also doesn't mind that his partner can easily lift him.

Maybe take turns deciding who's topping tonight but wrestling. First pinned is the bottom. Maybe first 2/3.

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I didn't have as many thoughts about this as I thought.

[aikoiya]

LoZ: LU - Ganondorf's Characterization Profile

I see most of the Ganons as having a similar basic personality with differences based on their personal life experiences.

CoH, OoT, TP, & WW Ganondorf are the same Ganondorf but at different stages of his life & thus, exhibits different levels of maturity based on the external influences in his life.

Similarly, FSA & HW Ganondorf are likewise the same Dorf.

Tell me if you think my assessments are accurate or not.

For his sexual profile, go to Ganondorf's Sexual Profile.

Also, please keep in mind that these ideas are all free to use.

LoZ Linked Universe Masterlist

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I've just come up with nicknames for the various Ganondorfs in a way reminiscent of Linked Universe.

FS = Sloth

CoH = Ambition (because he's just a kid & is mostly just a rude little brat, so he isn't represented by a sin here as he's not evil yet)

OoT = Greed

TP = Pride

WW = Envy

FSA = Gluttony (pre-HW Lust)

HW = Lust or Lech (though, the only ones able to call him the second one are other Gdorfs)

TotK = Wrath

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I actually theorize that a new Gerudo-born incarnation of Demise's hatred is born every 2000-10,000 years. If true, then by that logic, it means that around 16,000-50,000 years have passed between Skyward Sword & Tears of the Kingdom's presents.

However, I don't think that a Gerudo male still being alive really affects when another will be born. More so, it happens on a schedule. So, it's actually very possible for 2 Gerudo males to be alive at the same time.

Now, Gerudo males are still born every century between, right on schedule. They're just lucky enough to not be Demise's grudgemental stank reborn.

One thing of interest; these Gerudo males are always born on the 12th, though the month tends to change.

The Gerudo males are referred to as Centennial Kings or Mafzīnànkha Voe'attàren. However, those born of Demise's hatred these days are known as the Myriennial Tyrants or Mafzī'àlfankha Sûlfetànïren. They are also often referred to as the Vōton al’Khinzïr’è or Sons of the Boar as they are always born on February the 12th, under the sign of the Boar Constellation. Though, it took a very long time to figure that one out considering there's only been, like, 3 max.

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Also, to keep track of each Gerudo King, they are given a birth name & a King Name. Their King Name is a descriptor of when & where they were born.

As such, Ganondorf's King Name will always end with either Khrin or Zïr due to always being born in February, which is the month of the Boar Constellation. (Interestingly, the Voe before Ganondorf is always born under the sign of the cobra constellation, meaning that their King Name always ends with Kōba.)

However, every Gerudo King has the same family name: Drāgamīr. From the Gerudàn root words, Drāga meaning noble dragon, & Mīr meaning general or ruler. This means that Drāgamīr can be translated into draconian general or tyrant.

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Characterization:

Fairly Consistent:

His Gerudàn name is Gánōendōrfè Drāgamīr. Ganondorf Dragmire is more so a Hyrulean transliteration. It loosely translates to Warlock-Sorcerer Tyrant. So, yeah. There was definitely intent there.

Something important to note is that due to Kōme & Kotake always kidnapping him, Gánōndōrfè isn't actually his true name (which is supposed to always be given by the mother) & neither is whatever King Name they've given him. Which a birth name & a King Name are considered sacred in different ways, so this would actually be viewed as a sin & a violation in Gerudo culture. You see, these 3 names represent individualism & connection.

The Twinrova always give him a name that starts with Gá due to its relation to the Gerudo hells, Gàl'gáron, & use in the Gerudàn word for black magic, Gánō. However, it's also used as a way to suggest that he is always born in the desert, when that isn't the case.

They also consistently tell him that he was the result of the previous Gerudo Voe & a Gerudo Vai, which is generally not the case. This is done in an attempt to establish a concept of Gerudo supremacy within his mind. The reason being that the Twinrova generally looked down upon Gerudo who were born with a none-Gerudo parent.

In this way, I like to think that I've managed to showcase just how insidious this pair is.

The Villain - No matter what, so long as he is raised by Kōme & Kotake, he is always a bad person. He may have redeeming qualities, but that doesn't mean he's a "good person" deep down. He'd need someone who understands this & doesn't try to change him, but who also puts rules in place. Lines that she won't accept him crossing. Though, nothing demanding. More so just no-brainer things that you'd expect to be self-evident like no cheating, no slavery, no harming kids in any manner, "you can lie to anyone else you want, but you damn well better be honest with me." Stuff like that. Though, in that last situation, there are certain allowances made for when you're just planning a surprise. At the same time, he'd expect her to do the same. No lying to him unless it's for a damn good reason either.

That doesn't mean that he won't improve or become a better person, but it has to be something that he decides for himself rather than being something that is thrust upon him. If his Darling were to try, he'd be extremely resistant to it. Stubbornly so. And even when he does try to be better, so long as he was raised by Kōme & Kotake, it'll almost never get much lighter than medium-dark grey. He'll always be on the darker side of the greyscale.

A good Ganondorf is just something that can only happen in lives where he's raised by someone else. Period.

And if he ever does manage it despite being raised by a pair of evil witches, it'll take a very long time.

The best way to accomplish this is by simply loving him & leading by example, however “a woman cannot change a man by loving him, a man changes himself because he loves a woman.” Again, it must be his choice.

Social Darwinist - So long as Kōme & Kotake raise him, they'll raise him by a very Mandate of Heaven philosophy. One in which the strong rule over the weak & the one who prevails is the one who is right & worthy of sovereignty. That, those who win are allowed to do whatever they wish to the weak. In my hc, this is called Nīkôzeto'reqra in the Gerudo language. Which loosely translates to the "Right to Claim Victory." It is an ancient Gerudàn philosophy. One that Kōme & Kotake live & breathe, making sure that Ganondorf was raised to do the same in every life (after all, he had to learn it from somewhere). However, this same philosophy is also the one that resulted in the female-only curse to begin with. Not that Kōme or Kotake ever inform him of such.

However, just because that's how he was raised doesn't mean that it's what he truly believes. Most Dorfs only follow such a lifestyle so long as Kome & Kotake are still in the picture. At the same time, he also doesn't fight against it either.

On the other hand, Wrath & Pride are the Dorfs who actively embrace it. As such, unless he's shaken from this belief, anytime he comes out the victor over Hyrule, it will be Pyrrhic in nature & be destined to end in regret. At least, if the world is made thus via a wish. Because, in such a situation, if the weak are destined to die in his world, then realistically speaking, I see the infant mortality rate skyrocketing. After all, what could be weaker than something that is dependent upon others for everything?

This would inevitably result in the death of all life (in Hyrule if nowhere else) as the current generation aged or was slowly killed off. Thus reducing Hyrule to a wasteland, ironically, even more barren than the very desert that Ganondorf originated from.

It's dark, but based on Wrath's wish, if it were to be granted, then he might soon find that his kingdom would die out entirely, leaving him the king of nothing.

(This is why I think Social Darwinism is a load of shit. Because if it were truly survival of the fittest, then humanity wouldn't have come to prominence because our babies are even more dependent upon their parents than those of other animals.)

Would He Kill Kids - In-general, I think yes, provided that it isn’t a Gerudo kid. But in most situations other than that, there are still caveats. He'd very much prefer to avoid it at all possible, but if he sees no other option, then he will. If nothing else, he'll always choose to make it quick & painless. Will also ensure the kid gets a proper burial if he can.

Small Tusks - I just sorta headcanon that male Gerudo generally have small, not obvious tusks & even smaller upper canines. This leads to them having very slight underbites.

Straight or Close To It - Just, generally prefers biological women, no matter the iteration. Both romantically & sexually.

Yandere - Very possessive & can definitely be obsessive. However, to what degree & how evident his yandere traits are tends to vary between iterations. However, whenever he's classified as a "soft" yandere, he becomes far less likely to punish his Darling with physical pain & more likely to either punish her by holding blackmail over her head, by going after her loved ones, or via pleasure & overstimulation. It depends on the "crime." At the same time, that doesn't mean that he won't hurt her as punishment, just that he's much less likely to do so.

However, generally speaking, he'll almost always be very manipulative with her. Or, at least he'd try to.

Paradoxically, he'd actually find a woman who he couldn't manipulate, very attractive.

What can I say, he likes a challenge.

Narcissistic - Depends on the Ganondorf. Greed, Envy, Gluttony, & Wrath only have various degrees of narcissistic tendencies, but Lust is borderline NPD while Pride is just outright NPD.

However, it's because of this that a lot of them will really struggle with apologizing or even so much as recognizing when they did something wrong. The one's that have the easiest time of it are Sloth, Ambition, Envy, Pride, Gluttony, & surprisingly, Lust. Though, for Sloth, Pride, & Lust, the reasons why they are able to do so could be because they are just innately manipulative even among Ganondorfs.

Most would also be very unprepared for someone they care about & even more unprepared for a situation in which they need to say that they are sorry. In these cases, Ambition & Greed are definitely the sorts to apologize indirectly & may make excuses. Wrath would attempt to actually say it, but would be unable to say those words for a long time, then depending on just how far into the relationship he is, he might feel frustrated with himself for not being able to.

Manipulative - He's just a naturally cunning & manipulative individual with very little qualms with using others for his own gain. He also finds it easy to betray those he sees as less than him. He can even be borderline Shang Tsun (Mortal Kombat) depending on the version of him.

Metrosexual - Extremely vain. Due to his upbringing as having been raised by only women, he cares a lot about his appearance.

In Gerudo culture, jewelry is seen as a symbol of status, power, wealth, affluence, style, ect. As a result, whenever he has an active role as Gerudo King or thinks of himself as a king or even if he's just especially full of himself that life, he tends to wear a lot of it.

Has a great sense of style & understanding of fashion just due to osmosis.

Likes tattoos & piercings. Though, never to the point where he looks like he ran naked through a scrapyard. Just earings, a nose ring, maybe a tongue ring, nipple rings. He had a navel ring once, (but he'd regretted it later as navel rings were seen as slutty). Sometimes even a penis piercing or 2, though that was mostly only in a couple of lives.

He'd been... quite the character then... Plus side, his partners those lifetimes very much enjoyed it.

Much like how jewelry is a status, wealth, affluence symbol, so are piercings for a similar reason. I mean, the more jewelry, the more wealth, right?

However, on the flipside, too much jewelry is thought to be gaudy & overdoing it. Which can indicate a degree of insecurity.

He has very little interest in makeup, but will wear it in ceremonial or royal situations. Such ceremonial makeup for the king tends to really only highlight the eyes, but in such cases, it isn't generally considered feminine to the Gerudo to begin with.

It involves kohl & eyeliner, but never mascara. (Male Gerudo just don't feel the need to make their lashes bolder.) It's similar to how high-ranking Egyptians used such things. Again, it isn't really considered feminine unless mascara is added or the eyeliner is applied too heavily/in a certain way depending on the occasion (ceremonial situations will obviously allow for a bit more without being too much), but by that point, it's no longer a question of masculine or feminine, & more so a question of classiness or tastefulness. Though, there are also certain specific styles or patterns of eye makeup that can have masculine or feminine lilts to them.

Royalty & the high class are the only sorts allowed to wear metallic makeup. Sundelion gold & Argus silver kohl especially. (Argus referring to the Moonblooming Argus flowers that grow from Voltfruit Cacti, but only bloom at night. They are a shimmering silvery-white color that's very classy.)

Gold for males & silver for females.

Ganondorf absolutely refuses to wear lipstick or mascara. Not even in the tsundere way, he just straight up doesn't like the idea & sees it as strictly feminine. Ambition, Greed, Pride, & Envy specifically had a couple bad experiences from being a young Voevï (boy) where some of the Yaidjan (guardswomen) would try to dress him up as a Vaivï (girl) so he could have playmates, but even at that age, he'd found it weird.

As for nail polish, it depends on the iteration. Most wont, but the few Ganons that do would only go as far as a simple black varnish. Patterns & extra colors are too feminine for him. Might allow gold tips but even that is stretching it a bit for him. Many iterations do enjoy filing their nails into claws though. As such, those particular Ganons do tend to have a more active nail routine than others.

He also thinks that war paint is cool.

Keeps his hair well-maintained & well-groomed. Same with his beard & pubic hair. When his hair is long, he enjoys brushing it before bed. Despite this, he tends to find one hairstyle & stick with it for a good while before changing it. Needs a Darling skilled at styling hair to get him to deviate from this more regularly.

Considering how seriously he takes his appearance, this is actually a huge deal for him as it means he trusts her to do a good job with his hair & not make him look like an idiot in front of his subjects.

Doesn't really use lotions on his hands as he likes the calluses on them. They tell him that he's worked hard for his strength.

- Heartbreaker - He also especially likes to look good even after getting into an established relationship. The reason being that it gives him the excuse to be a cocky little shit by being affectionate with his Darling, thereby breaking the hearts of any who might've been ogling either one of them.

It's just one of the little ways by which he's able to showcase his jackassery.

Make no mistake, he'd never even contemplate being unfaithful. But he gets a major kick out of eliciting jealousy from others. Both from women who want him & especially from men who want his Beloved.

He can honestly be downright cruel in regards to men. Though, how he goes about it depends on the Dorf in question. Those like Lust & Wrath are more the 'show, don't tell' sorts. And will simply become very openly affectionate with his wife in front of the man who was showing his interested attention in his love, then give them a very smug expression.

Cares Deeply About How He's Perceived - This goes hand-in-hand with being metrosexual. Must always look presentable. Whether it be his looks, how he talks, how he acts. Everything is strictly maintained. Feels a strong pressure to always present himself in a regal, kingly &, most of all, masculine, fashion.

In every single life, he is always expected to portray the picture of manhood, which the Gerudo can tend to have unbelievably high expectations for when it comes to the men of their own race. They just, inherently, see the differences between male & female Hylians & believe that Gerudo Voen must be even more masculine!

Hates filth & being grimy. Yet, paradoxically, also loves working up a sweat.

Also very much enjoys a good bath. Has a lot of bathing products. Though, strangely enough, Lust actually doesn't have all that much. But, for him, it's more about quality than anything. You figure out the right ingredients for the right products & you'll only need a handful. He does have a decent number of scented bath oils though.

Always speaks in a refined manner, though some iterations can be excessive about it, thus coming across as snobbish. Lust, specifically, can be very pompous.

Corrupted Benevolence - According to Confucianism, benevolence originates from loving & caring about one's loved ones, which then extends outwards to one's friends & community. I see family being Ganondorf's emotional core, the thing he turns to when times are bad. However, what happens when someone's emotional core, the thing that's supposed to be his steady rock & support, consists of a pair of horrible old witches who hate Hyrule?

What happens when his community is nothing but women who could never understand what it means to be a man? Well, when the foundation of how one understands how relationships work comes from a pair of literal Wicked Witch stereotypes, obviously, your understanding of how said relationships work is obviously going to be very skewed.

I think that most of the Dorfs had all the potential to be good kings, but that they were basically sabotaged from the very start.

Egotistical - This is pretty self-explanatory. Though, something important to keep in mind is that ego, specifically the deadly sin of pride (rather than dignity & self-respect), is nothing more than a mask hiding self-loathing. It is a cheap imitation of real confidence, because confidence needs not be proven, nor is it easy to harm because true confidence is the well-adjusted offspring of the happily married pair of humility & self-compassion. But ego, ego demands satisfaction when slighted for its bravado is false. And any attack upon a person’s ego can result in the facade falling to reveal to the world the broken person that truly hides beneath. Very little terrifies an egotist more than such a fate.

Dramatic - He definitely has that supervillain flair. Like, he's got that showmanship goin' for him. I mean, Greed played his own theme song on a massive-ass pipe organ.

An Asshole - Again, self-explanatory. Though, much like most things, it depends on the iteration to what degree & in what way. Envy & Lust tend to be more subtle in their jackassery, being more snake-like, while Greed & Pride tend to be more overt with it. Though, admittedly Greed isn't quite as much of one, as Pride tends to be much more sadistic about it while Greed is mostly just snide, rude, & mean-spirited while still managing to be refined about it. Wrath, though, is more in the middle & it depends on the situation.

Control Freak - Depending on his iteration, he can have control issues. Part of this is due to having felt powerless as a child as his mothers tended to have him on a short leash.

Gossip - He actually learns it from his mothers, who are both raging gossip mongers. And I mean the horrible, snippy, blackmailing sort of gossip mongers. Not the cute little old ladies chatting around the kitchen table with tea & cookies. It's part of how they maintain their status as head bitches. You know, by controlling the flow of info.

So, most Ganons tend to learn how to gossip, how to sort through information, which has nuggets of truth to them & what's just rumors, & how to captivate a listener with his words, very early on. Not to mention how good it is for reconnaissance. It's always a good idea to keep your thumb on the pulse of the rumor mill.

Cowardly - Not many things legitimately scare him, but the few things that do tend to cause him to react in a cowardly manner. This mostly happens in reaction to his mothers' anger. He's gotten exceptionally good at hiding it, but if you know where to look, you can see the fear there at certain times. A lot of his desire for power stems from a desire to no longer be afraid & to exert control over his own life. That isn't to say that he can't learn to overcome this part of him, just that he'd need to acknowledge that he has things he needs to improve on first.

The right people & especially the right Darling in his life can help him to learn to overcome this through example & support.

Naturally Deceptive - A liar. He falls into the role of deceiver naturally & with great ease.

Naturally Dominant - Due to the societal pressures placed upon him at a young age as the Centennial King, he tries to project dominance at all times, especially when near his subjects.

Tyrant - As much as a lot of fans want to believe that he only did all those bad things for the sake of his people, this is not the case.

Due to his Might Makes Right ideology, he genuinely sees himself as superior to the rest of the Gerudo due to none of them even being able to approach his level of power. Just due to him being born male. This is a result of him producing testosterone & being at a higher body weight than the Vaien. Keep in mind that a team of teenage boys can soundly beat an all-female team of soccer players.

As such, it's likely that Gerudo Vaien are likely only around as strong as Hylian men. However, it's very possible that they might still lose out even just based on a lack of testosterone.

However, because of this, Ganondorf always ends up leagues stronger than any man or woman regardless of them being Gerudo or Hylian. I mean... so long as their name isn't Link...

It's partly because of this, that he's grown to have zero concept of Noblesse Oblige. (For an explanation as to what that is, go to my Duty of Nobility post.) One saying regarding such says that, "Whoever claims himself to be noble must conduct himself nobly." Another is, "noble ancestry constrains to honorable behavior; privilege entails responsibility." In other words, those in positions of power have a responsibility, obligations, to those who follow them, protection at the very least. Whether that be through generosity to those around them or what-have-you.

He'd need to be introduced to the idea slowly & in a way that he'd accept much like you need to do when adapting cats to each other's presence.

Something else, Kōme & Kotake never actually raised him with the intention of him being an actual king. Rather, his soul purpose in their eyes was to act as a catalyst for Hyrule's destruction. In this way, the Dorfs's rules were sabotaged from the very beginning.

Though, if he were to ever learn this, he'd become very angry & determined to prove to them that he was something more than a glorified attack dog for a demon that couldn't even do it himself.

Traumabound - Is almost always kidnapped after birth by Kōme & Kotake & raised in the use of black magic. They are never good mothers to him as they specifically go out of their way to raise him to be a power-hungry tyrant. In this way, he's groomed into becoming what he does.

He loves them, but they don't love him back. To them, he's a vessel for their master's hatred & little else. Though, they don't make this fact obvious to him. They actually have a relationship not dissimilar to Mother Gothel & Rapunzel in that they gaslight the eff outta him.

He is never really privy to these facts, so the betrayal will always strike deep. At the same time, it'll always make sense & will cause things to line up in his head in a depressing way & it'll always make him wonder how he'd never seen it before.

Also keep in mind that the witches that they were inspired by are very specifically the sort known for black magic &, as such, they are forever influenced by that Wicked Witch trope. Which, in many fairytales, are known to sacrifice children, torturing them & consuming their blood in order to live their long lives. This is likely part of what influenced the idea that witches eat children.

Gdorf will always initially be ill at ease with this idea, but will endeavor to do so to make his mothers happy. At the same time, he'll put it off as long as possible. The idea of it makes his heart sink into his stomach.

He'd had to sacrifice a child to Demise at 14 to obtain his black magic to begin with every time they raise him, but that was merely killing the poor kid & it'd still traumatized him for life in each life. Most Gdorfs can't even fathom how he'll manage to go from just killing to outright torture.

Like, it's one thing when it's an enemy or even a traitor, but a kid??

If he ever is no longer bothered by the idea, that's a hint that he's irredeemable. Rotten to the core & should be cut out like a cancer.

On the other hand, if his mothers are ever killed, yes, he'll mourn, but some part of him will feel relief unfold inside him.

It is actually the use of black magic that causes the trio to have that particular shade of pea soup baby barf complexion. Black magic literally leaves a physical mark upon the user. Specifically, the choice to use it. It is similar to how poisonous frogs have bright colors to warn others that they are dangerous.

Twinkle Toes - Is actually a fantastic dancer & secretly very much enjoys it, but most Dorfs try to keep that fact quiet. Dancing is actually a very traditional practice for the Gerudo. It's also one way in which they tell stories.

Though, the Dorfs will be much more ready to admit how much he enjoys it with the right partner. Especially if she also enjoys it.

Cultural Appreciation - If the Gerudo Gdorfs' non-Gerudo Darling goes out of her way to learn more about his culture, especially if she learns the Gerudo language & hides it until she's good enough to have full conversations with him to surprise him, he will always be deeply touched.

Even Pride, who is arguably the worst of the Ganondorfs, will soften by a good deal.

Some will gently tease & correct grammar, others would purr their approval, others still would visibly soften. It's just an all-around good way to get past his defenses.

Invasive Thoughts - Being the vessel of Demise's hatred comes with dark thoughts. The giant ass doesn't so much actually possess him as he makes the thoughts that he can use louder & the ones that would deter his grudge, quieter. This can also include invasive thoughts. Not how actual invasive thoughts are, because IRL invasive thoughts tend to reflect the thinker's deepest taboos. That's why they make you uncomfortable.

The insidious thing about Ganondorf's invasive thoughts is that they are specifically designed to tempt him. To make him worse & more destructive.

So, you could absolutely say that he has a literal shoulder devil, but that his shoulder angel has been gaged & locked in a trunk.

The curse also comes with a natural hunger for power & a lust for fighting.

These things, plus the influence of Kōme & Kotake as his mothers, are 2 parts of how he always becomes so bad in the first place. They intentionally teach him to indulge in his power-hungry instincts & to feed those thoughts.

In this way, yes, he is pigeonholed into his role as villain, but at the same time, the choices he made throughout his life? Were still all his own &, thus, he is still responsible for his own actions. Similar to how a drunk driver is still culpable for his actions despite having committed the offense under the influence of alcohol & was thus not thinking clearly at the time.

(This is how I cause the curse & Demise's hatred to be an ever-present influence upon his life while still giving Ganondorf free will.)

He is the truest incarnation Demise's hatred via a death curse, but the thing is that a person is much more than just hatred. A human comes with all the emotions.

Not only that, but by his hatred being born in the form of a human being, that one tiny piece of the deity that Demise once was, has a chance. Especially when you take the Rin'ne into account.

However, it wasn't just his hatred. His soulmate tether came with it because Demise himself was no more & everyone has a soulmate, so the tether between Demise & his own soulmate went with the only surviving piece of him. His hatred.

King Alone - Initially doesn't ever intend to marry as that would mean sharing his power. As such, he instead has many concubines to attend to his needs.

However, this changes when he finds his Darling. At least, most of the time.

Machismo vs Caballerismo - Tends to originally classify as misapplied Machismo, meaning aggressive & overly macho. Though, even when he is primarily misapplied Machismo, he is very much not chauvinistic or sexist due to how he grew up, except against weak women. He hates weak women. At the same time, he also isn't chivalrous either. However, real, genuine love & care tends to soften him & he begins to exhibit more correctly-applied Machismo (meaning to project the features of a man, specifically stoicism, strength, dominance, resiliance, cool, virile, ect), as well as Caballerismo tendencies (such as nurturing, being family-oriented, protective, & chivalrous).

Said correctly-used Machismo will eventually become his new public disposition, thus becoming truly masculine.

However, his newly acquired Caballerismo tendencies will generally only come out around those he cares about.

Struggles With His Masculinity - Due to being raised by all women & no other men besides concubini (plural of concubinus; defined as male concubines) being allowed in, Gdorf really only had those very women's understanding of what being a man was & the concubini for examples.

It also doesn't really help that his mothers tend to encourage the more negative behaviors most commonly associated with men.

However, despite this less than ideal situation, he tends to be expected to be this pillar of masculinity for his community without much decent direction, which tends to put a lot of stress on him, especially in his early years. As such, his masculinity is actually pretty fragile & only gets marginally stronger with experience if he never gets better role models.

Even amongst his own race, he is always considered as "other" due to being a male & this results in him feeling extremely alienated as he is always forced to become innately aware of the fact that the Vaien (women) of his tribe tend to talk about & treat men as almost an entirely different, even alien, species.

He was also generally barred from visiting the more populated parts of the Gerudo settlements until after all the Vaivïn (girls, plural) below 18 had been lain down for bed. This way, none of the Vaivïn ever saw him, as per the Gerudo's custom.

However, this results in him never really interacting with other children his age, which results in him being ill-socialized. At least, until he himself had reached 18 as well, but the sudden introduction to peers without any experience with them tends to cause him to close off from them.

In this way, he doesn't really understand what being a man actually means. Though, he manages to hide the fact that he's been absolutely starved of positive male role models, potential father figures, & even male peers, rather well. However, when this fact does show itself, the reality & obviousness of it tends to be staggering; glaring even.

Generally, it just shows itself in little ways. Like not knowing how to shake hands with a firm grip properly while maintaining eye contact or how to be strong & firm, but also gentle at the same time. Or how to be competitive in a lighthearted & friendly way while not letting pride sour things. Or how to not take certain things to heart. How to be resilient in character & not just in body.

It also shows itself in how he feels the need to gain female attention. How he's become codependent of the women around him, specifically depending upon his mothers' approval in order to feel validated.

And when he realizes that his basically non-existent understanding of manhood has been made apparent to someone, he becomes embarrassed & ashamed, then aggressive.

Secretly Insecure - Hides it extremely well.

Flirty & Charming - Part of this is connected to being manipulative. He sees what he wants & will get it by whatever means necessary. Even if it means flirting with the enemy. Likes giving his beloved nicknames.

Even the straight Dorfs, if he senses that a male enemy can be manipulated in such a way, is more than willing to go that route even if he silently degrades them for their predilections.

Endearment Usage - Most Gdorfs are pretty frugal with handing out nicknames & endearments unless he legitimately cares about them.

Extremely Monogamic - The idea of cheating on someone he legit cares about would leave him shocked & aghast. This is due to the Gerudo just being an extremely romantically exclusive & monogamous people in regards to their hearts. Romance is considered something almost entirely separate from, yet still connected to, sex & the Gerudo, just as a people, are very cautious with their hearts. They also, as a culture, value fidelity.

Like, to the point where infidelity is considered a serious taboo. Even a crime punishable by death.

Dextrophile - Competancy is hot. Displays of talent or competency is an immediate headturner for him.

One of very few things that literally every Dorf has in common.

Cultural Anthropology Buff - Actually finds things like myths & legends, history, religion, & culture to be extremely interesting. Especially the study of how all these things impacts both the psychology of individuals within a culture & cultures as a whole. Though, how much he indulges in this fascination varies between Gdorfs. For instance, Greed was desperate for literature (having been taught by his mothers) due to his people being desert bandits, but for fear of his people seeing him as weak (for whatever reason; it's honestly a dumb worry, but fears can be irrational), he'd portray himself as only using the knowledge to further his tribe's success. Meanwhile, Envy indulges in the pastime frequently due to not having any reason not to.

Best Match - A strong, honest, capable woman who (quietly) demands respect, sees past all his crap, & doesn't believe his lies, while managing to be respectful at the same time, but also doesn't try to change or "reform" him. Holds him accountable & wont sugarcoat things. A woman who'll enforce rules & lines that she will not allow to be crossed between them if he wants their relationship to continue, but will also respect the boundaries that he puts in place. Who can counter all his attempts to control or manipulate her, whether consciously or subconsciously. Both humble, yet confident & proud in her own, not egotistical way. And, despite himself, he'd be deeply attracted to one with strong maternal instincts. Because some buried part of him desires a family who will love him unconditionally.

He'd be unprepared for someone so direct & unaffected by his tricks. Especially someone able to unbalance him. In this way, he would find himself charmed. These things will cause him to respect her in a way that he doesn't many others.

Which, respect is extremely important for him in any relationship. If he respects you, he is far less likely to betray you. It's even more important for a Darling to have his respect in lives where he's NPD or even just borderline NPD.

He also just very much likes 'em in one of 2 extremes: feisty badass & elegant, yet deceptively lethal badass.

Likes To See Her Angry - Thinks she looks gorgeous with that fire in her eyes. So, he very much enjoys teasing, picking on, & bickering with her.

He also just generally enjoys a good verbal duel of wits.

Wants To Be Romanced - Despite being the dominant sort, he actually really wants to be romanced. He'd legitimately melt inside if a woman tried to woo, romance, or court him. Especially if she does so using things she's learned about his interests.

Not Used To Genuineness - Most gifts he's been given throughout his lives were frivolous & superficial. Just extravagant things that look nice, but really serve no purpose. So, when given something that he truly likes or legitimately interests him or has meaning to him personally, he's both shocked & touched, but also confused. Something high-quality & handmade with care will especially make his heart flutter. It's the effort put in.

Love Language - Gift-giving & physical affection. Initially, most of his gifts will likewise be frivolous & extravagant, but the first time he gets a heartfelt gift from his Darling, he'll honestly feel outdone & will endeavor to improve his gift-giving skills. He wants her to feel every bit as touched by his gifts as he is touched by hers.

Another important one for him is time spent together, though.

Touch Starved - Is initially uncomfortable & unused to positive non-sexual physical affection, but upon getting used to it, begins to crave it like air. Loves having his hair touched or pulled or brushed or his scalp massaged or scratched.

Also, bathing each other is actually an important Gerudo bonding experience for married couples. For Gdorf, it's a very vulnerable & tender time. Is initially defensive & guarded when first doing so with his wife, but will gently unfurl his grip around his heart over time & bare it to her willingly.

He's actually a very warm & tender lover with his beloved wife. Is also a natural romantic at heart, but tries to keep this fact hidden & deeply buried. Loves it when his lover & him brush each other's hair. It's incredibly intimate to him as he takes his overall appearance very seriously. Will even let a Darling with hair-styling skills style his hair.

Actually really loves his hair or head being touched, though he won't allow it unless he trusts her. But when he does & the trust is 100%, massage his head & he may just drift off to sleep in his lover's arms.

Casual Physical Affection - When near his lover & the 2 are close, he naturally draws close to her & rests his hand on her hip or shoulder or lower back. Sometimes even just bumping his hip against hers. Enjoys tilting her chin up as he dips his head down to capture her lips in a sweet kiss.

Cuddle-Bug - Craves closeness. Often wraps his arms around his lover & even curls around her protectively in his sleep. Face pressed into her neck, shoulder, or hair. Sometimes drools in his sleep. Snores, but quietly. Occasionally snorts, but not often.

Loves Kisses & Casual Affection - He often leans down to kiss his lover & thinks that her standing on her toes to meet his lips is absolutely adorable. Will also pick her up by her waist or hold her under the ass or bridal style to do so.

Reciprocal Ownership - Initially, he is the type to want to own people, yet not be owned himself. Until he falls in love. At which point, he takes great pride in being claimed or in any way acknowledged as being hers.

Wears her marks with pride.

Often uses "my" to refer to her & might become inwardly flustered initially if she refers to him in the same way.

Breast Man - Don't get him wrong. He enjoys flared hips, a plump ass, & shapely legs too & will never say no to them, but he just can't help how much he loves a soft, pillowy bust. Not even just sexually either.

Sometimes when he's overwhelmed, stressed, or just frustrated, he likes to hold his Darling around the waist & rest his head on her chest with her in his lap & drown everything out.

Part of it has to do with hearing her heartbeat, which helps to ground him in the moment with another part just being the smell of her skin. Not to mention the feel of her skin surrounding him. He most especially loves the smell when she's pregnant or still breastfeeding. The scent of milk & and motherhood, along with her natural smell, is quite soothing. Add to that the feel of her warmth & her closeness & it's something that he finds very comforting.

Especially appreciates it if she begins to pet his head, run her fingers through his hair, or sing quietly to him. It very much relaxes him & may just end up causing him to fall asleep buried in her bosom.

He typically doesn't even mind if she starts talking to him about her day. It's nice to listen to her chatter because it can help to distract him from his own stressors. Though, if he's feeling particularly overstimulated & isn’t in the right state of mind for talk, he 'll grunt or grumble or lightly nip (without any real bite) at her skin to showcase his displeasure. I also think that he'd be particularly appreciative of a Darling who notices & acquiesces.

Part of it also has to do with a general fascination because not many Gerudo Vaien have large busts. A shapely lower-half, absolutely, but not very busty.

Now, there's definitely lust to his attraction to breasts, I'm just saying that there's more to it than that is all.

Deeply Touched When Accepted - His Beast Form specifically. It's just something that he doesn't expect. Yes, his Beast Form is a symbol of power, but it's also a symbol of inhumanity.

Typically, he ranges from indifference regarding how people react to it to delighting in people's fear of it.

But that's when he doesn't care about them. If it's his Darling, he's suddenly terrified of her reaction.

Even in the case of Pride, who likely wouldn’t let this fact show, he would be deeply hurt if the object of his affections were to react with fear towards his Beast Form. Though, he wouldn’t hesitate to use their fear to his advantage either. Not to mention, he’d begin to show that hurt in the form of anger. And while he’d convince himself that he didn’t care, it would bother him. Like, a lot.

For his other iterations, many would also try to hide his hurt, but that pain would show much more readily.

On the other hand, for the Dorfs who are in a more honest & open relationship with his Beloved, for her to accept him, even hesitantly, would touch him deeply. Her reassurance would melt his heart & he’d find himself clinging to her as he tries to hide the fact that his eyes were misting.

Even simply not being afraid of him in that form would honestly stun him. Boldly staring him in the eye unwaveringly, even defiantly, would boggle his mind, but would also impress him greatly & there would be honest relief.

The one most legitimately unaffected by these things would be Sloth.

Actually Really Wants Kids - Like, most Gdorfs don't even know this about themselves, but upon seeing his Darling interact with children in a motherly fashion, it shifts something inside him. And then there's this longing in his heart for something he'd never thought of having before. And when that baby is in his arms & he's looking down at their tiny face, not just his perspective, but the entire world seems to shift. All his goals & aspirations are now changed or altered or even outright abandoned, all to include & preserve this tiny, fragile light in his arms that he suddenly knows without a shadow of a doubt, he'd protect with his dying breath. Sees his children as the greatest gifts he's ever gotten.

The amount each one wants tends to vary, but he generally wants at least 4. However, in most cases, ideally, he'd actually prefer more. Lust, Pride, & Gluttony especially just seem to want to reenact "Cheaper By the Dozen." So, whoever they end up with better be prepared.

Now, Lust & Gluttony's desire comes more from a place of love, but Pride's would really only show up if Darling happened to be a Heroine. There's just something about the idea of turning the one who'd been destined to kill him into his personal breeding sow by which to bring his heirs into the world, that would really get him going.

Though, he'd make some excuse about needing to rebuild the Gerudo race. Which may be a tiny factor for him, but is definitely not the actual reason. He's just a cruel bastard who likes to humiliate his enemies.

He's also liable to hold the fact that she was giving him a personal army who would be faultlessly loyal to him over her head.

When his Darling is pregnant, the Dorfs might get a bit annoying with how protective he gets.

Like, he worries over every little thing. Won't let her pick up heavy things. He'll carry her upstairs. Imagine him as a very large, very concerned but doting bee that hovers around her head.

He might also get a bit flummoxed over her cravings & moodswings.

Greed especially seems like he'd be a bit of a hothead, so I see them bickering a bit more during that time.

But I do think that he'd calm down after she gives birth.

However, I also think that he'd initially be a bit scared to hold his child. His mothers raised him as a tyrant, a destroyer. So, he's not sure that he knows how to be as gentle as a baby needs.

It's one of the few things he'd be really insecure about.

He's never had a need for such gentleness before, but now he'd understand how important it can be.

Surrender Isn't An Option - Much like one of the Bushido codes of conduct, he regards surrender as cowardly. Those who do, lose their honor, dignity, & self-respect in his eyes. In his eyes, those who surrender become less than human & allows him clearance to do whatever he wishes to them. (Of course, he always does as such, but if someone surrenders, his treatment of them tends to become even more sadistic.)

Even Villains Have Loved Ones - Regardless of whether his Darling is a villain like him or a heroine or neutral or just a regular homemaker, when he loves someone, he shows it one way or another. And regardless of how he raises his kids, he'll really & truly love them no matter what & is always determined to be a part of their lives even if their mother was only a one-night-stand.

However, love doesn't just fix everything & sometimes, in some lifetimes, he'll wonder if perhaps it would've been better to be an absentee; if not for him, then for them. It depends on the iteration really.

Villainous Parental Instincts & Papa Wolf - Would absolutely kill & maim or commit outright genocide for his kids. They are so very important to him, no matter the iteration. In no way, is it a duty to him. It is a privilege.

FS (Sloth) Specifically:

Don't know much about him. I'll have to play the game or watch a playthrough to get a better idea.

Only Non-Gerudo - The first Sheikah defect. Kōme & Kotake's old mentor & father (not that they were made aware of this fact before his death), whom all other Dorfs are named after. Lived around 380 years before OoT. He was a true follower of Demise & they named the vessel of Demise's hatred after him in his honor. Possibly the only person they ever loved or respected.

The Best Liar - Which is saying something.

Most Manipulative - Again, woof.

Just Innately Snake-Like - Seriously, this man is slimy.

Most Cowardly - Not much to say here.

Treacherous & A Terrible Boss - He is just LoZ's Shang Tsun. Like, not even borderline. He IS. So conniving!

Most Magically Inclined - Yes, even more so than Greed.

Will Avoid Fighting Personally - He knows that he's a squishy wizard & will exploit meat shields.

The Most Likely To Use Minions To Do His Dirty Work - Seriously.

CoH (Ambition) Specifically:

Didn't really show up much in CoH. We really only get him playing the organ & talking.

Between 8 & 15 years old.

Something that I think is very important despite not really being pertinent to Ambition, is that I believe that when Octavo went into the future, I think that he specifically went to the Downfall Timeline just after Time is killed by Ganon. To me, Octavo softened him up a little bit, then Rhythm, Harmony, & Cadence brought it home. And them killing Ganon was vital to the Sages being able to seal away his essence. If not for them, then the Sages would've failed.

Something else of import, at least for my person hc of him, is that he is the illegitimate son of the previous Gerudo Chief, Lōkhïna Drāgamīr, & the then Crown Prince of Hyrule, Benjor Raurusen Hyrule.

Note that Benjor had suggested marriage & wanted to be part of his child's life, but Lōkhïna, evidently, wasn't ready for such a commitment & ran back to the desert. Benjor wrote to her often beseeching to be able to see his daughter. Finally, Lōkhïna told him that he could meet her once & even write to her & send gifts, but after that, until she’s reached the age of 18, she would be barred from seeing any man.

Benjor was, understandably, furious with the prospect & very nearly declaired war, but realized that if he ever hoped for peace between their races, he'd need to respect their customs even if he didn't understand or agree with them. So, this was likely the best he was going to get & accepted. However, on February 12, a son was born instead & Lōkhïna died in childbirth, leaving only Kōme & Kotake to care for the boy.

When Benjor demanded to see them as was agreed upon, Kōme & Kotake denied him the right, informing him that the Chief had died in childbirth & that “no new sisters had been added to the Gerudo’s ranks.” Which Benjor took to mean that his daughter was stillborn & he was devastated.

Due to the relationship with Lōkhïna falling through, King Rauru Hyrule was forced to find a woman to marry his son, which didn’t occur until after Octavo’s attempt. Due to Grand Duchess Zelda Harmonia Hyrule, Benjor’s second cousin, who had recently been shown to bear Hylia’s light, there was quite a lot of pressure on Rauru to put her on the throne.

The reason being that Rauru had no female heirs & Hyrule, by nature, is a matrilineal monarch. So, the 2 were betrothed & from their union came Zelda Cadenza Hyrule, or Lullaby, named in honor of the friend that Harmony (CoH's Zelda) & Tempo (CoH’s Link) made during the Hero of Music's adventure.

As such, OoT Ganondorf & Zelda are actually half-siblings.

And, since Benjor was also a descendant of Hylia, this means that Ambition (& through him, Greed, Pride, & Envy) technically has a degree of right to the throne, though not as much of one as Lullaby.

In fact, he would rightfully be given the title of Grand Duke of Hyrule.

Name - Gánōendōrfè Gáqàrkhrin Drāgamīr was the name given to him by the Twinrova. This is his true name as his mother died in childbirth before she could name him. Qàr meaning "dark" due to him being born at night.

Studious - Has deep interest in reading & learning.

Determined - When paired with his perfectionism, he can sometimes have tunnel vision.

Desperate For Approval - Especially from his mothers. This sort of goes hand-in-hand with his determination.

Brat - Like, he can be such a snarky little asshole.

Snobbish - I mean, he's basically the Gerudo's god-king of prophecy. I'd be surprised if he wasn't.

Dismissive - He has things to do. Leave him alone.

Behaviorally Mature - This is primarily due to the expectations placed upon him from an early age.

Tsundere - Wants a genuine connection, but denies it. The reason being that his mothers, & thus he himself, have convinced him that he doesn't need anyone beyond Kōme & Kotake. As such, when he has a genuine crush on a girl, he tends to come off as abrasive & a jerk.

- A Pigtail Puller (Likes To See Her Angry) - When he crushes on a girl, he's prone to teasing & bullying. He'll also argue with her. (He actually used to have a crush on Nabooru.)

Thinks the girl he likes looks really pretty with that fire of anger in her eyes. So, he very much enjoys teasing, picking on, & bickering with her.

He also just generally enjoys a good verbal duel of wits.

Ambition will eventually come to learn that she looks just as pretty when flustered, which results in him looking for ways to get the reaction out of her.

Yet, despite all this, he's actually pretty easy to fluster, too. Though, for him, it tends to come from her being nice to him, which he has no idea how to respond to. And while he can definitely be mean, it very much doesn't come from a place of dislike. Ambition likes this girl & thinks she's cool & pretty & nice, but he's all mixed up inside. On the one hand, he wants to be her friend & play with her, but on the other, he has to be tough so his Vàman don't lecture him.

And if she asks him to be his friend, he'll initially behave rudely, but will seem to wilt before turning back to her with a surprisingly uncertain, but hopeful expression. He'll fidget a bit before asking if she meant it. If she replies in the affirmative, he'll practically light up like the sun before valiantly dimming it back & replying with something like, "w-well, if you're really all that lonely, then I guess I could hang out with you sometimes... maybe..."

And, ohohoho! If she hugs him for it, he might just turn into a tomato & get a bit loud & mean for a bit, but it'd honestly mean the world to him even if he doesn't know it.

However, it will definitely take some time for him to realize that he's crushing on her.

Possessive & Clingy Yandere - But in a platonic or pg romantic way as he's still very young. As such, it still comes across as cute rather than worrying. Will openly & directly tell someone that his fixation will be his queen with the most adorable, serious expression on his face.

Like, little man has decided. This is what's happening.

Never Taught To Share - Kōme & Kotake are just very bad mothers.

Tantrums - Still has issues with losing his temper, but he makes sure to never do so around his mothers.

Actually Desperate Lonely - But he actually doesn't even realize it himself. And growing up the only boy in a society of all girls is with no other males to relate to... well, it's confusing.

It's also resulted in him becoming isolated & othered as well as placed upon a pedestal.

Gets Attached To Those He Likes, Respects, or Thinks Cool - Again. Not a lot of friends, but he'll cling like a barnacle to what ones he does have.

As such, if the girl he likes is persistent enough despite his outward abrasiveness, he'll honestly greatly appreciate any offer made to be his friend.

Initially, he'll scoff & turn away blushing, before fidgeting a bit & turning back with an oddly hopeful, but hesitant expression & ask, "really?" In a strangely small voice.

If she confirms, then the smile that will light up his face will be blinding. However, it's immediately dimmed as he tsks, quietly looking around in fear, then seems to contemplate something before whispering "w-well, if you're really all that lonely, then I guess I could hang out with you sometimes... maybe…" While blushing.

He'll still be a bit of a jerk, but he'll also become fiercely protective & possessive of her & will do a lot of nice things for her when no one's looking. Even if he does try to make it all seem like he's just doing her a favor & makes it seem like he's being put out by it.

However, he does everything in his power to make sure that his mothers never learn of their friendship. And if they ever learn of the pair's association, he'll immediately insist that she has potential to be a very powerful pawn as well as a loyal follower. And what better way to bring out such loyalty, then by pretending to be her friend? (Which, he'd been planning the conversation for a good while by this point, but somehow, insinuating that their friendship was fake even if he did not actually say that it was, still made him feel dirty inside.)

Unfortunately, the Twinrova are a pair of Wicked Witches & manipulation is their bread & butter. So, even if he was doing a good job at deceiving them, they are innately predisposed to distrusting a person's words. So, if Ambition wishes to keep his new friend, then they'll have to be more careful.

At the same time, I get the feeling that if he thinks the old women are cottoning onto his diversions too much, he's liable to break their friendship if only to protect his friend.

Doesn't Really Know How To Play - Tends to play alone, but his mothers have taken to discouraging play, so he's begun to distance himself from such things. He's also never really played with other kids as the Vàman (mothers, plural) of the tribe tend to keep their Vaivïn away from him in fear of them acting up around him & displeasing him.

Under A Lot of Expectation & Pressure - As a result, he's become pretty reserved. (Read: emotionally constipated.)

Sometimes Secretly Wishes He Was A Vai - Not in the trans way though. He just... he realizes that if he weren't a boy, he'd likely have less pressure & expectations placed upon him to be king.

But then he realizes that if that were the case, then he'd have to wear Vai clothes & other gross stuff like makeup & decides that he's fine as is. He really didn't like it when the Yaidjan tried to dress him up that one time. It felt weird.

Very Possessive - Both of people he genuinely cares about & of things he actually likes. In terms of things, this tends to include music sheets, his horse, & books, especially books revolving around cultural anthropology, mythology, & magical practice.

Prone To Jealousy - Yet, he also tends to keep it to himself. However, that causes it to simmer until it boils over.

Catty Bitch - But he tends to say it behind people's backs or grumble it under his breath.

Cocky - Youthful overconfidence.

Prone To Boasting - Self-explanatory.

Adorably Easy to Fluster - :3 Like, he seriously hates how red his face gets.

Audiophile - Very much loves music. Also has an ear & talent for it. As well as the dedication & discipline to back it up. Also seems to be curious & intrigued by the power that can be found in music.

Craves Love & Affection - But not as much as Lust or Gluttony.

Deeply Traumatized - It was only recently that Kōme & Kotake had him kill some poor kid from Hyrule to obtain black magic from their master. He doesn’t even know the entity’s name, but he is not coping well. Suffers from nightmares & insomnia as a result. Ever since then, he’s begun to have odd thoughts.

Refuses to let anyone see him cry. Especially his mothers as they… they don’t tend to react well… Doesn’t realize that the way he’s treated isn’t normal.

OoT (Greed) Specifically:

I generally classify Greed as 18-21 at the beginning of OoT & 25-28 at the end. This is partly due to the headcanon that in Gerudo culture, a Voe cuts his hair when he reaches the age of 18. The length of his hair after that represents the years that he's been a man. For a king, this happens at the moment of his coronation & thus, his hair's length also represents the years he's been king.

As such, I think that he only became king recently. Then, 7 years later, his hair is longer.

Also important, all that was said of Ambition also largely counts for Greed, seeing as he's Ambition, but older.

Name - Gánōendōrfè Gáqàrkhrin Drāgamīr was the name given to him by the Twinrova. This is his true name as his mother died in childbirth before she could name him. Qàr meaning "dark" due to him being born at night.

Tsundere - Wants a genuine connection, but denies it. It isn't that he thinks he doesn't deserve it; in fact there isn't much that he believes he doesn't deserve. However, his mothers, & thus he himself, have convinced him that he doesn't need one beyond Kōme & Kotake. As such, when he has a genuine crush on a woman, he tends to come off as abrasive & a jerk.

Oddly, if he realizes he likes her like that, he'll start to switch back & forth between being a bit of a bully & surprisingly flirty. Though, he isn't very good at being flirted with, especially when it's someone he likes & she's earnest about it. In this way, he's only gotten better at hiding how flustered he gets.

Very Possessive - Both of people he genuinely cares about & of things he actually likes. In terms of things, this tends to include music sheets, his horse, & books, especially books revolving around cultural anthropology, mythology, & magical practice.

Secretly Perverted - Can range from flirty to downright lecherous (but not chauvinistic), however he tries to keep this fact a secret, which results in him being tsundere. Will sometimes stalk his Darling & is prone to apodyopsis through the eyes. Can also be quite the tease.

Catty Bitch - But he tends to say it behind people's backs or grumble it under his breath.

Manipulative & Eliminating Yandere - Gets very jealous & even kinda needy. Wants to be the center of his Darling's attentions & will do damn near whatever it takes to do so. Will take out anyone he thinks might be trying to take his Darling from him.

Cocky - Youthful overconfidence.

Audiophile - Loves music. Very much has an ear & talent for music. As well as the dedication & discipline to back it up.

He's also very likely to use the scant amount of acoustomagy that he knows to get what he wants. Though, the majority of his music spells tend to be Charm or Enchantment based.

Such as using music to cast something like the Friends or Suggestion spells from DnD.

At the same time, they work best when performed subtly, especially if there's already a certain degree of amiability between himself & the target as it allows the magic to latch onto something concrete.

In the case of using one on a Darling, I can definitely see Greed singing “Music of the Night” as done by Ramin Karimloo while playing the organ. Which, BTW, I think he'd have a naturally operatic voice.

However, the way this specific type of spell works is that it latches onto pre-existing feelings of attraction & bolsters them. But if the target is already fully & genuinely in love with the caster, then the spell doesn't take hold at all. The reason being that real, genuine love is far, & above, much stronger than synthetically induced attraction.

Those under this spell are compelled to be obedient to the caster & are much more likely to accept said caster's advances. They are also far, far more likely to believe anything the caster says. It also induces an eagerness to please.

The most effective, yet unpredictable, way of breaking this particular enchantment is through heartbreak. Especially if the target is particularly monogamous. It could be by her learning that Greed has placed a love spell upon her, that he's only using her, that he sees her as little more than a pawn, (though, these have to be from his own lips), or even just seeing him in the loving embrace of another.

And yes, Lust very much is jealous of this ability.

The Family That Slays Together - The sort who is more likely to raise his children to be as much of a villain as he is. This being because he doesn't really know any other way without a good influence in his life. At the same time, he'd grow to regret it due to genuinely loving his children & wishing that he'd set a better example.

TP (Pride) Specifically:

Remember that this is the Child Timeline where he was ratted out by a pair of children & was discovered to be treacherous.

However, I tend to believe that the Hyrule King didn't initially believe Link or Zelda &, instead, sent Impa to investigate in an attempt to assuage his daughter's paranoia & prove that her & her new friend were just worrying over nothing.

He didn't expect for Impa to actually turn up evidence of a legitimate coup.

Which, keep in mind that unless Zelda specifically sent Link back to before he even woke up in his treehouse, then at the very least, Greed had still sent Ghoma to infest the Deku Tree, which resulted in him dying.

And depending on whether or not the same is true of his attempts to attain the other Spiritual Stones, then there'd be eyewitness testimony to Greed's treachery. Hell, Darunia himself said that Ganondorf told him to "give me the Spiritual Stone! Only then will I open the cave for you!" And, keep in mind that, according to Darunia, the king is his Sworn Brother. So, even though I don't think that the king would believe a couple of kids, he'd likely believe the word of his own friend. Which, all Link would have to do would be to tell the king to "ask Darunia." And, bringing up Ruto could also help, because even though she too was a child, the fact that yet someone else was insisting that Greed was after their Spiritual Stone, would only further cement his suspicions. Hell, the mere fact that Link has the Kokiri Emerald should at least raise a couple of red flags!

And the fact that Greed was specifically after the Spiritual Stones, the keys to accessing a holy relic of the country that he was supposedly trying to form some sort of alliance with, would raise some freaking alarm bells, I'd think!

As a result, the king likely kept the fact that the investigation was prompted by a couple of children quiet as not only would it reflect badly upon the Royal Family for not having investigated until then, but it'd paint a target on both the kids' backs.

As such, no one, not even Pride, actually knows that it was the children that snitched on him. He knows that the princess didn't like him & he assumes that the boy in green was one of her little friends, but thinking that it was them would most likely be a bit of a logical leap for him regardless of whether it was true or not. Part of the reason that he betrayed Zant is due to the mistaken belief that someone close to him betrayed him. As a result, he became extremely paranoid of those working under him.

Anyway, after Greed began to suspect that the jig was up, he escaped before he could be caught. This resulted in a 7 year long war (which is why Pride has longer hair during the execution scene). At the end of those, Link defeated him in battle & took him to face his crimes.

After Greed was sealed in the Twilight Realm, his ardent Gerudo followers (excluding Kōme & Kotake) were all executed while the rest were banished. (Which leads into Gluttony.)

However, he actually isn't aware that the rest of the Gerudo were banished & legitimately believes that they were all killed & thus he is the only Gerudo left. And the state of the once Spirit Temple does not help in any way.

So, despite having not truly cared for them, he's still extremely angry about the believed genocide.

Name - Gánōendōrfè Gáqàrkhrin Drāgamīr was the name given to him by the Twinrova. This is his true name as his mother died in childbirth before she could name him. Qàr meaning "dark" due to him being born at night.

Would He Kill Kids - Yes, but Pride has far fewer caveats to it than other Gdorfs. In a lot of ways, I see Pride as Gdorf at his worst. He just no longer really cares. Like, he still doesn't enjoy it, but he cares much less.

Much like with a lot else, he'd obviously change depending on whether he's still in charge or has been utterly defeated to the point of humility.

Isolating & Eliminating Yandere - Due to having been just sort of given the Triforce of Power even though he hadn't gotten it himself in this timeline, he's gotten a huge ego boost & doesn't take rejection well. This results in him being affirmed of his "Mandate of Heaven" ideals & believing that he's the chosen of Din & that she selected him to conquer not just Hyrule, but the world.

Much like all Gdorfs, he's also very selfish & greedy, wanting his Darling all to himself. It's just to the extreme here. Insanely possessive & jealous. Will punish his Darling physically if he believes she's defied him in any way. Seeks to isolate her from those around her. I can't reiterate more how extremely possessive & jealous this man is. As such, he'll have anyone he views as a threat to his relationship with her, eliminated.

And, in his sadism, if he believes this individual to be someone Darling cares about, he's not opposed to making their death a spectacle.

The Ganondorf most likely to imprison his Beloved in a tower & rape her at his leisure.

Audiophile - Loves music. Very much has an ear & talent for music. As well as the dedication & discipline to back it up. Though, he hasn't had the chance to play in a while.

He's also very likely to use the scant amount of acoustomagy that he knows to get what he wants. Though, the majority of his music spells tend to be Charm or Enchantment based.

Such as using music to cast something like the Friends or Suggestion spells from DnD.

At the same time, they work best when performed subtly, especially if there's already a certain degree of amiability between himself & the target as it allows the magic to latch onto something concrete.

In the case of using one on a Darling, I can definitely see Pride singing “Music of the Night” as done by Ramin Karimloo while playing the organ. Which, BTW, I think he'd have a naturally operatic voice.

However, the way this specific type of spell works is that it latches onto pre-existing feelings of attraction & bolsters them. But if the target is already fully & genuinely in love with the caster, then the spell doesn't take hold at all. The reason being that real, genuine love is far, & above, much stronger than synthetically induced attraction.

Those under this spell are compelled to be obedient to the caster & are much more likely to accept said caster's advances. They are also far, far more likely to believe anything the caster says. It also induces an eagerness to please.

The most effective, yet unpredictable, way of breaking this particular enchantment is through heartbreak. Especially if the target is particularly monogamous. It could be by her learning that Pride has placed a love spell upon her, that he's only using her, that he sees her as little more than a pawn, (though, these have to be from his own lips), or even just seeing him in the loving embrace of another.

And yes, Lust very much is jealous of this ability.

Social Dawinist - As much of one as Wrath, but the worst part is that by being just given the ToP, he'd basically been assured of his own perceived "right" to dominate Hyrule.

Perverted - Not even secretly at this point. Just downright lecherous to the point of chauvinism & doesn't even try to hide it. Will sometimes stalk his Darling & is prone to apodyopsis via the eyes. Makes some downright obscene comments sometimes.

Can honestly be very lewd & crass.

Objectifier - Especially if she's Hylian or Sheikah/Yiga. In such situations, it even takes on a feeling of racial fetishization. Takes simple joy in humiliating her.

Most likely to dress her up all pretty & parade her around as a sort of living trophy.

Endearment User - However, he tends to do so in objectifying, possessive, or mocking ways.

Will often refer to a woman that he's made into a concubine as Bensinï, Benzenï, Kinzanï, all meaning "my treasure." Vesginï to mean "my jewel." Hiahxàlnï, meaning "my prize." Làbanï, translating to "my toy/plaything." Ghànjnï, "my pet." Morizī, "pretty one."

Or, in the case of Darling being a Hylian or Sheikah, he will regularly use Bensïrénï, which refers to the spoils of war or thievery, thereby giving it a meaning similar to "my trophy." Will also use Bīvt’vuré, Kāvjih’vuré, & Kàx’vuré, which mean “chained bird,” “bound bird,” & “caged bird” respectively. Will switch between the possessive use of -nï & the prefix yà- to mean “little or small,” sometimes also adding mori for “pretty” as well. The use of these specific vuré endearments are almost entirely used by slave owners in reference to or when addressing their sex slaves.

And, surprisingly, Tzhamdnï, translating to "my sheath." Which, is an innately sexually charges endearment by nature, however if this was said in privacy, whispered in the ear, or even just said with affection, then it takes on a very sweet & wholesome meaning. As it can mean something similar to Baynï or Amïnq'tonï, which mean "my home" or "my sanctuary or safe place" respectively. Though, while whispering can still have that sort of feel, the act of making it secretive, will cause the endearment to be edged with seduction or promise.

However, because this Gdorf calls her such out loud regardless of someone being present, with an abundance of smugness, & very little tenderness. It actually causes it to take on the more euphemistic meaning due to Tzhamd also being frequently used to refer to a woman's cooch. Specifically without the more tender meanings, because the 2 sides can be utilized at once. As such, his use of it would be considered outrageously lewd, very bold, & even just downright shameless to a Gerudo listener. Not to mention quite humiliating to the individual in question.

Catty Bitch - Very in-your-face about it too. Unlike Greed, he doesn't say it behind a person's back. He'll say it to your face.

NEVER Intends To Marry - He's just become the sort who doesn't believe that anyone is worthy of him. He also refuses to share his power, so even if by some miracle he did marry, he's most likely to take up the old Hyrulean custom of having his wife become the princess-consort instead.

God Complex - Like, holy shit. If he were to say that his shit smelled like roses, I honestly wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't believe him, but it would not be a shocker that he made such a declaration & I may even wonder if he actually believed it himself. Like, it isn't even borderline anymore, he just outright has Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Though, what concerns me the most about his delusion, is the fact that he actually chose that hairstyle of his. I don't care what anyone says about them being "dreadlocks," those are granny rollers!

Just Generally A Bad Guy - Self-explanatory.

The Family That Slays Together - The sort who is more likely to raise his children to be as much of a villain as he is. This being because he doesn't really know any other way without a good influence in his life. Pride, though, would be proud of his children following in his footsteps & would only experience regret for it in the dead of night as he stares up into the darkness & wonders how he failed them.

WW (Envy) Specifically:

This is the Adult Timeline, which means he experienced being at the top & nearly achieving his goals (even being King of Hyrule for a period of 7 years) before being toppled like a stack of dominoes. This humbled him to a degree & has had a strong effect on him.

Envy keeps his hair short due to perceiving himself as having failed as both a king & a man, thus he doesn't really see himself as a true man, let alone a true king, anymore.

Don't get me wrong, I don't actually think that Greed really cared about his people as much as some assume. Because if he had, then why were the Gerudo still all living in the desert? Why did he have them brainwashed? In this way, I think that he keeps his hair that short mostly due to failing himself & his own lofty ambitions.

As such, if Envy does feel guilty for having failed them, then it isn't for as selfless of a reason as some like to portray it being.

It's possible that he is genuinely regretful, but the likelihood of it only being because of his own personal failure, is actually very high.

Name - Gánōendōrfè Gáqàrkhrin Drāgamīr was the name given to him by the Twinrova. This is his true name as his mother died in childbirth before she could name him. Qàr meaning "dark" due to him being born at night.

Soft, But Manipulative & Unassuming Yandere (Borderline Sane) - Having been humbled so, he tends to have a stronger hold on his yandere tendencies. As such, he is more subtle in his machinations. "Soft" means that he'll often regret or feel guilty over the bad things he does to his Darling, but that doesn't mean that he'll stop.

One of the 3 Dorf most likely to use pleasure & overstimulation as punishment. As likely as Gluttony.

Prone To Jealousy - Yet, he also tends to keep it to himself. However, that causes it to simmer until it boils over.

Surprisingly Self-Aware - First off, let me remind everyone that he was, for all intents & purposes, Hyrule's king for 7 entire years & all he seemed to do was most definitely kill 2 people (the Deku Tree & the King) & possibly kill 6 more (the Sages). He then ran a little girl out of her ancestral home after murdering her father & while it might be going pretty far to suggest that he planned to kill her, he certainly wasn't planning to let her escape on horseback. If nothing else, he'd wanted the Ocarina of Time, a relic of the native people. He then invaded the holy sanctum pertaining to the main religion of the native peoples, took a piece of what was essentially the Holy Grail to them. I don't think a lot of people really understand what he did. If the theory that he had just sworn fealty to Hyrule like in TotK is true, then this was treason. And, if not, then he committed theft of cultural property, one of significant cultural value in relation to Hyruleans' cultural identity & heritage as a people!

Then, during the next 7 years, he ran the residents of Castle Town out of their homes at the very least, possibly had others killed, destroyed the country's capital, invaded several holy sites & desecrated them. He also attempted to feed the Gorons to a dragon, froze the Zora, let his mothers brainwash at least Nabooru (& possibly other Gerudo just by the use of other Iron Knuckles), used necromancy to control corpses (which is at the very least desecration & highly immoral), then proceeded to sit, playing sinister music menacingly in his Tower of Ominousness. Yet in those 7 years, he did not move his people into Hyrule. Why? Was he waiting to obtain the full Triforce? Whatever for? He was already king of Hyrule. Perhaps he feared the little girl whose father he murdered, chased out of her own ancestral home, then destroyed that very home to replace it with that gothic wet dream he calls a castle.

Also, something to keep in mind is that Envy doesn't say he wished to have Hyrule for his people, & he definitely did not say that he wished for it so they could flourish, merely that he coveted Hyrule's "winds," which can be a way to suggest that he coveted Hyrule's fortune & prosperity, it's lands, just Hyrule in-general. Yes, it is very possible to interpret it in such a way, but that interpretation is at odds with the reality of his actions. So, either he never cared or he did at one point, but he changed & that was no longer the case. Regardless, the facts still stand, this Dorf was not a good king.

I will say, though, that he's the first Dorf to acknowledge that Hyrule wasn't rightfully his by the simple use of the word "covet.”

Which is defined as "desiring (specifically something that belongs to someone else) wrongfully, inordinately, or without due regard for the rights of others.”

So, provided that he realizes this & that he's sort of telling on himself, it sheds a more introspective & self-aware light upon him.

Catty Bitch - But not overtly. He's able to be fairly subtle about it. At least, when he wants to be.

Audiophile - Loves music. Very much has an ear & talent for music. As well as the dedication & discipline to back it up. And due to his time in his Fortress, he's been able to indulge in it, as well as refine his talents quite a lot.

He's also very likely to use the scant amount of acoustomagy that he knows to get what he wants. Though, the majority of his music spells tend to be Charm or Enchantment based.

Such as using music to cast something like the Friends or Suggestion spells from DnD.

At the same time, they work best when performed subtly, especially if there's already a certain degree of amiability between himself & the target as it allows the magic to latch onto something concrete.

In the case of using one on a Darling, I can definitely see Envy singing “Music of the Night” as done by Ramin Karimloo while playing the organ. His voice is actually quite operatic.

However, the way this specific type of spell works is that it latches onto pre-existing feelings of attraction & bolsters them. But if the target is already fully & genuinely in love with the caster, then the spell doesn't take hold at all. The reason being that real, genuine love is far, & above, much stronger than synthetically induced attraction.

Those under this spell are compelled to be obedient to the caster & are much more likely to accept said caster's advances. They are also far, far more likely to believe anything the caster says. It also induces an eagerness to please.

The most effective, yet unpredictable, way of breaking this particular enchantment is through heartbreak. Especially if the target is particularly monogamous. It could be by her learning that Envy has placed a love spell upon her, that he's only using her, that he sees her as little more than a pawn, (though, these have to be from his own lips), or even just seeing him in the loving embrace of another.

And yes, Lust very much is jealous of this ability.

Gossiper - The most gossipy of all the Gdorfs. Borderline little old lady. Literally has a special tea blend.

Secretly Perverted - Can range from flirty to downright lecherous (but not chauvinistic), however he tries to keep this fact a secret &, if nothing else, he at least puts in the effort to be polite about it. Will sometimes stalk his Darling & is prone to apodyopsis through the eyes. Can also be quite the tease.

Social Dawinist - However, both he & Gluttony tend to lean more towards the side of a resigned one. Meaning that though he's absolutely convinced of this being how reality works, it doesn't mean that he's happy about it.

A Foodie - Much like Gluttony, he's also quite fond of food, but not to the same degree.

Good Dad - Or at least he tries to be. He was raised in every life to be an evil overlord by some iteration of Kōme & Kotake or another. And they're just never… they're not good mothers in any respect, okay? Regardless, he loves his children with all his heart.

Evil Parents Want Good Kids - He lives & breathes this. Yes, he wants them to be strong warriors & be able to command respect, but he also doesn't want them to be pigeonholed into the position of tyrant like he was raised to be. He's one of the most likely to be able to manage this aside from Wrath.

Though, it actually has very little to do with being good & more so the fact that the tendencies his mothers encouraged in him just weren't healthy. Not to mention abusive. He refuses to put his children through that. Yes, he'll be tough on them, but never outright cruel unless absolutely necessary.

FSA (Gluttony) Specific:

Don't know much about him. I'll have to play the game or watch a playthrough to get a better idea.

Either way, this is a reincarnation of Pride (meaning, Pride died & was reborn as someone new) & he's affected by the fact that his people were banished from Hyrule, so he likely has ideas of revenge rolling around in that head of his. (Not sure if learning that they were banished because of his predecessor's actions would change anything, though.)

Name - Gánōendōrfè Gárorrzïr Drāgamīr was the name given to him by the Twinrova. Orr to mean "night," suggesting he was born at night.

This is not his true name. His true name is Àkram Màtnālàquàrkhrin Drāgamīr. Àkram is an old Gerudan boy’s name meaning “most generous.”

Meanwhile, for his King Name, Màtnālà is short for Màtu'nālàk. The Màt refers to Màtu, meaning "love" & Nālàk indicates that he was born on a mountain by the sea as Nā refers to a mountain while Làk is the Gerudàn word for "sea." Màtu'nālàk is very explicate as there are only 2 sites in Hyrule it could indicate: Tuft Mountain & Ebon Mountain. However, if it were Ebon Mountain, he'd have likely been named Nàtnālàquàrkhrin or Ghunālàquàrkhrin. Nàtnāl being short for Nàmàtu'nālàk & Ghunālà being short for Ghusàm'nālàk meaning "seaside mountain of heartbreak," which... let's just say that such a name would be considered a very bad omen for his love life. That, plus Quàr, which literally means "break" in reference to Aaquàr, meaning "daybreak,' would've likely caused the more superstitious Vaien to believe that he was either destined for great romantic tragedy or to become the breaker of many, many hearts. (Which, admittedly, wouldn't have been incorrect.) Anyway, the use of Quàr says that he was born specifically at daybreak.

Anyway, thankfully, that isn't the case, as in reality, his specific King Name is very auspicious. Many in Gerudo culture would take the Màtnālàquàr part of his King Name as a sign that he was blessed by Vah Kàvtrïna, goddess of love, passion, beauty, ect. The reason being that the word Màtnālàk is almost exclusively used in reference to Tuft Mountain, which is said to be one of Vah Kàvtrïna's holy sites. The use of Quàr would only cement the idea as Tuft Mountain is believed to be the sight of the most beautiful sunrise in Hyrule.

Ergo, it's very possible that his father may have been from Lurelin or that his mother had simply wished for her child's first sight to be that of the most beautiful sunrise in Hyrule. Regardless, this name shows very distinctly that his mother loved him greatly & wished good things for him.

Which is very sad because he doesn't remember her as he was kidnapped only a month afterwards.

Very Possessive - Both of people he genuinely cares about & of things he actually likes. Even more so than Greed.

Smarmy Asshole - Overly flattering, but tends to be thus in a fake or sarcastic way. When he doesn't need anything from someone, he lets his insincerity be evident. However, when he wants to manipulate someone & wants them to actually believe him, he's able to make himself sound genuine.

Flowery Language - Even amongst Ganondorfs, he speaks with refinement. Though not as bad as Lust. Can be rather poetic. Which, BTW, he enjoys literature, including poetry & epics. Borderline bibliophilic.

Outwardly Gentlemenly - Behaves in a very refined, almost Hyrulean upperclass-type of manner. However, this is mostly to hide his true intentions.

Indulgent - He enjoys luxury. Even more so than all the other Ganondorfs. Especially food. He loves food. Actually, a surprisingly good cook. But also a bit of a snob when it comes to what he eats.

Hedonistic - Seeks out pleasure in whatever way he can. This goes hand-in-hand with his indulgent tendencies.

A Pervert - Honestly, can be every bit as much of one as Lust, but he hides it about as well as Envy does. The reason he's a pervert is simply due to the nature of gluttony. It isn't just about eating too much, it's about overindulgence & that goes for everything, including sex.

Ergo, he overindulges in his partners' bodies. He does seem to have an oral fixation though.

Very Cuddly - Is secretly a hugger.

Methyphile - Very much appreciates the work that goes into making alcohol & sometimes overindulges. Doesn't drink excessively, but when he does drink, he prefers it to be the good, high-quality shit. As such, he tends to be a bit of a snob & has a refined palate when tasting.

Sweet Tooth - Actually quite enjoys sweets. If his Beloved enjoys baking, then he very quickly becomes quite the fan of her cooking & especially enjoys indulging in the sweets she makes.

Foodie & Gourmand - Again, he loves food & enjoys cooking. And if his Darling does as well, then it's a 50-50 shot of whether they will use cooking as a bonding method or if they'll bicker over how best to prepare a dish. Admires a Dear who's skilled with knifework.

Chunky - While still extremely buff like most other Ganondorfs, he has more of a figure reminiscent of Thor from God of War: Ragnarök.

Social Dawinist - However, both he & Envy tend to lean more towards the side of a resigned one. Meaning that though he's absolutely convinced of this being how reality works, it doesn't mean that he's happy about it.

Soft Yandere - He's one of the least likely to punish her with pain & as likely to do so via pleasure, overstimulation, & humiliation as Envy, but not as much as Lust.

Really Wants To Be Romanced - Despite being the dominant sort, he actually really, really wants to be romanced. He'd actually melt inside if a woman turned all that around on him & tried to woo, romance, or court him. Especially if she were to do so using things that she learned about his interests. May inwardly swoon as a result. Even more than other Ganondorfs. At the same time, he doesn't really know how to pursue a genuine & healthy relationship.

A Sucker For Romance - Most of the novels he enjoys reading that aren't in some way related to cultural anthropology (history, culture, myth, theology, ect) or war/strategy, tends to be smutty romance novels. (If a book has all of those things, though, then he's found a new top pick.) Though, he's a bit of a literature snob as he honestly can't stand badly-written literature.

If he were in any other situation than the one he was in, he'd ship the hell outta ZeLink. However, because he is in his current position, this is one instance where he hates the Destined Princess Saved By Her Knight trope.

Craves Love & Affection - More than any other Ganondorf, he wishes to find that woman who he can spend the rest of his life with. In a way that's somewhat reminiscent of Vlad Masters from Danny Phantom. Despite his own tendencies & habits, he's also one of the ones who'd find it the easiest to transition into partner exclusivity. And with the right guidance, he's one of the quickest of the lot to take up more healthy relationship habits.

Most Likely To Spoil His Kids - Especially if he doesn't have a Darling to act as a balance.

One-Time Cannibal, Now Recovering - It was just the once & it wasn't by choice, but more so necessity. Kōme & Kotake abandoned him in the desert to test him in a very cruel way & they may have even subtly led him to someone lost. The 2 had actually become friends after a fashion, commiserating over their horrid fates.

They rationed their food the best they could, Gluttony would regularly beg for his mothers to come & save them. But they didn't. It was during that time that his new friend suggested that his mothers were despicable monsters based on the fact that they were willing to leave him to suffer in the desert. And this was the first time that he'd truly contemplated it.

Eventually, the pair ran out of food despite their rationing. They were starving...

Then Gluttony's new friend collapsed. Just died of heat stroke... & I'm sure you can guess... And not even all that long after... he finished... his mothers showed up, praising him for surviving, but Gluttony only wanted to vomit & sob uncontrollably, but knew better than to show any form of weakness to his mothers...

He was never the same. The traumatizing event had an odd reaction on him. After suffering thus, he wanted to enjoy his life as much as possible because he never knew when the twin witches would find another horrifying way to "test" him. Yeah, this Gdorf is not okay...

Suffers From Anxiety - Though he hides it well.

Fear - He fears the Twinrova more than any other Ganondorf as he's realized how truly awful they are & how not normal their parenting methods are.

Good Dad - Or at least he tries to be. He was raised in every life to be an evil overlord by some iteration of Kōme & Kotake or another. And they're just never… they're not good mothers in any respect, okay? Regardless, he loves his children with all his heart.

What's truly horrible though, is that he often has horrific nightmares about either his mothers returning & sacrificing his kids, forcing him to eat them, or the absolute worst of all; losing his mind & devouring them by choice.

It always results in him bolting up straight in bed before running to vomit everything in his stomach up as he sobs pitifully.

After those sorts of nightmares, he becomes oddly reluctant to eat for days. Especially meat that he hasn't caught & prepared himself.

Despite this, if the Twinrova truly were ever to so much as attempt such a stunt, they'd be dealt with in the most excruciating manner possible.

A Bit of a Juggernaut - One of the most physically strong on the Dorfs.

Evil Parents Want Good Kids - He lives & breathes this. Yes, he wants them to be strong warriors & be able to command respect, but he also doesn't want them to be pigeonholed into the position of tyrant like he was raised to be. He's one of the most likely to be able to manage this aside from Wrath & Envy. However, he can tend to be a bit of a peahat parent.

Though, it actually has very little to do with being good & more so the fact that the tendencies his mothers encouraged in him just weren't healthy. Not to mention abusive. He refuses to put his children through that. Yes, he'll be tough on them, but never outright cruel unless absolutely necessary.

Matricidal - He killed Kōme & Kotake (same pair from OoT). I'm not sure how, but I know it was just before he went to steal the Trident of Power. I know that, in their Twinrova form, they smiled wickedly at him & told him that they were proud of him.

Of course, that was a partial lie. They were proud of how ruthless he became to kill his own mothers, but they were furious that he betrayed them.

But if it were true that they were just proud of him, they wouldn't have said so. Rather, they said it because they knew what it'd do to him. Knew it would fuck with his head to such a degree that it would cause him to lose his mind. Which, the desire for control was what led him to break his people's law & steal the trident.

See, he had such conflicting feelings regarding them. One the one hand, they were his mothers & they raised him. He loved them.But on the other hand, the idea that he had done anything to make people like them in any way proud… Well, it sent him into a frenzy of “I’m a monster.” So, he became one.

HW (Lust or Lech) Specifically:

Don't know much about him. I'll have to play the game or watch a playthrough to get a better idea. But so far, I'm getting that Hyrule Warriors was the catalyst for the 3 timelines merging by creating an event that was inevitable in all 3. A.k.a the Era of the Wilds. (Note that only other Ganondorfs are able to call him Lech & get away with it. Hates it. When especially t’d off at him, they’ll also refer to him as Surmúta, meaning slut or whore or harlet.)

Name - Gánōndōrfé Gárorrzïr Drāgamīr was the name given to him by the Twinrova. Though, this is not his true name. His true name is Àkram Màtnālàquàrkhrin Drāgamīr.

Smarmy Asshole - Overly flattering, but tends to be thus in a fake or sarcastic way. When he doesn't need anything from someone, he lets his insincerity be evident. However, when he wants to manipulate someone & wants them to actually believe him, he's able to make himself sound genuine.

However, he becomes slightly less confident when he has a genuine, romantic interest in a woman, but he quickly adapts. Ironically, being a naturally duplicitous individual, he finds difficulty in sounding genuine when he actually is genuine. In this way, because he doesn't normally give genuine compliments, they tend to come across as fake.

In such a situation as he wants a woman he very much likes to know his true feelings, the best way for him to do so & be taken seriously is by cutting the crap & delivering it bluntly & in a straightforward manner, which is something that he'd struggle a lot with & would need to learn how to do.

Flowery Language - Even amongst Ganondorfs, he speaks with refinement. So much so that it can be off-putting, flamboyant, & honestly quite pompous. Can be rather poetic. Which, BTW, he enjoys literature, including poetry & epics. Borderline bibliophilic.

Outwardly Gentlemenly - Behaves in a very refined, almost Hyrulean upperclass-type of manner. However, this is mostly to hide his true intentions.

The Most Vain - Lust & Pride sort of represent 2 different sides of pride. Pride represents the typical "I am superior" narcissism & Lust represents vanity.

Like, every Dorf takes pride in their appearance, but Lust is just next level. The best hair-care routine of all his incarnations. He's just downright neurotic about it, but in a surprisingly endearing way. (Think Eugene from Tangled the Series.)

Amazing Kisser - Self-explanatory.

Secretly Perverted - Can range from flirty to downright lecherous (but not chauvinistic), however he tries to keep this fact on the relative dl from his subjects &, if nothing else, he at least puts in the effort to be polite about it. Will sometimes stalk his darling & is prone to apodyopsis via the eyes. The biggest tease with the most perverted mind out of all the Gdorfs.

Methyphile - Very much appreciates the work that goes into making alcohol & sometimes overindulges. Doesn't drink excessively, but when he does drink, he prefers it to be the good, high-quality shit. As such, he tends to be a bit of a snob & has a refined palate when tasting. Actually, brews his own as a hobby. Also enjoys mixology.

Sweet Tooth - Actually quite enjoys sweets. If his Beloved enjoys baking, then he very quickly becomes quite the fan of her cooking & especially enjoys indulging in the sweets she makes.

Foodie & Gourmand - Again, he loves food & enjoys cooking. And if his Darling does as well, then it's a 50-50 shot of whether they will use cooking as a bonding method or if they'll bicker over how best to prepare a dish. Admires a Dear who's skilled with knifework.

- Health & Fitness Nut - Since being sealed inside the Four Sword the first time around, he’s become much more health conscious. Now, he still indulges every once in a while, but he also goes out of his way to keep himself fit. In this way, he’s actually learned a lot of restraint. He still very much enjoys good food; he just doesn't overindulge as often as he used to.

However, that indulgent energy has now been redirected towards vanity & more... carnal pursuits.

Catty Bitch - But not overtly. He's able to be fairly subtle about it.

Endearment User - Rather flippantly refers to his sexual partners with stereotypically romantic endearments, even just one-night-stands, though he usually uses Hyrulean ones.

It's when he starts using Gerudàn endearments in his native language that you know that he's legitimately affectionate with & is attached to someone.

Homme Fatale - A seductive & charming, but manipulative & dangerous man. A cereal one-night-stander. Despite this, he's extremely romantic & suave, which is partly how he gets laid so often.

An Incorrigible Flirt - As mentioned above, he's very romantic, very suave, & very charming. Knows that he's attractive & flaunts it. Often using it to his advantage to get what he wants.

Unbothered By Nudity - Doesn't care who sees him in the buff. Absolutely shameless.

A Subtle & Unassuming, But Very Dangerous Yandere - He keeps these tendencies hidden, but doesn't stop from indulging in them. Extremely manipulative & a definite gaslighter. So good at hiding it, in fact, that extremely few would believe his Darling if she were to try & tell anyone. This would result in her becoming isolated & lonely, thus becoming vulnerable to his machinations. Which is exactly where he wants her. Wants her to be dependent upon him. Genuinely believes that he's doing it for her own good.

Lust is most likely to go from simply obsessing over his Darling to genuinely loving her as he gets to know her, thus causing things to become more complicated.

Once he's grown to trust her, he isn't the type to believe that his Darling is cheating on him without some damn strong & condemning evidence. Yes, he'll start off as the suspicious sort, but as he begins to get to know her, he'll begin to trust her more, especially if she's just generally the honest & fidelous type.

Rather, he tends to not like it when she pays other men more attention than she does to him even if she's just being friendly.

Though, he also realizes when she is just being friendly & thus doesn't take it out on her. More so becoming an intimidating presence to the other man by casually, yet not overtly exerting his dominance.

"Soft" means that he'll often regret the bad things he actually does to his Darling, but that doesn't mean that he'll stop. And, he's also the least likely to punish her with pain & the most likely to do so via pleasure, overstimulation, & humiliation.

Really Wants To Be Romanced - Despite being the dominant sort, he actually really, really wants to be romanced. So, even though he's charming & suave & romantic, he'd actually melt inside if a woman turned all that around on him & tried to woo, romance, or court him. Especially if she were to do so using things that she learned about his interests. May inwardly swoon as a result. Even more than other Ganondorfs. At the same time, he doesn't really know how to pursue a genuine & healthy relationship.

A Sucker For Romance - Most of the novels he enjoys reading that aren't in some way related to cultural anthropology (history, culture, myth, theology, ect) or war/strategy, tends to be smutty romance novels. (If a book has all of those things, though, then he's found a new top pick.) Though, he's a bit of a literature snob as he honestly can't stand badly-written literature.

If he were in any other situation than the one he was in, he'd ship the hell outta ZeLink. However, because he is in his current position, this is one instance where he hates the Destined Princess Saved By Her Knight trope.

Craves Love & Affection - More than any other Ganondorf, he wishes to find that woman who he can spend the rest of his life with. In a way that's somewhat reminiscent of Vlad Masters from Danny Phantom. Despite his own tendencies & habits, he's also the one who'd find it the easiest to transition into partner exclusivity. And with the right guidance, he's the quickest of the lot to take up more healthy relationship habits.

A Beast Who Thrives In Battle - In a strange way, it’s his zen. Much like Wrath, it’s where he feels most in control in spite of the bloodlust that he is often consumed by.

A General Born From Adversity - The skill of leadership does not come to him naturally & part of the reason for this is due to the fact that he hadn’t been raised as king the way that other Dorfs have. As such, he had to learn to lead on his own.

The Family That Slays Together - The sort who is more likely to raise his children to be as much of a villain as he is. This being because he doesn't really know any other way without a positive influence in his life. At the same time, this doesn't mean that he intends for it to happen. In fact, he'd grow to regret it deeply due to genuinely loving his children & wishing that he'd set a better example. He'd agonize over it for years.

Evil Parents Want Good Kids - This is what he wants, but that doesn't mean that it's what he'd get without help. If he doesn't, then it'll be the sort of thing that'll keep him awake at night, believing that he'd failed them. However, it wouldn't really hit him until after they were all out of the nest & the fact that he hadn't been able to help them become more well-adjusted individuals would torment him & eat him up inside for the rest of his life.

Though, it actually has very little to do with being good & more so the fact that the tendencies his mothers encouraged in him just weren't healthy. Not to mention abusive. He refuses to put his children through that. Yes, he'll be tough on them, but never outright cruel.

TotK (Wrath) Specifically:

Name - Gánōndōrfé Gárorrzïr Drāgamīr II was the name given to him by the Twinrova.

Again, not his true name. His true name is Wàndrāgr Nāfïtàrrzïr Drāgamīr. Wàndrāgr being a Highland boy's name meaning "lordly or protector." Its etymology originates from both Gerudàn & Norse names & words; the Gerudàn name Wandàg, the Highland word Drāgr, which itself is an acculturation of the the Gerudàn word Drāga & the Hebran word Dreki or Dregr. This gives his name a distinct Highland lilt to it. While Nāfï indicates that he was born on a snowy mountain & Tàrr indicates a nighttime birth, specifically, the night of a crescent moon.

When all put together, his true name heavily implies that he was born to a Gerudàn mother of the Highlands & a Hebran father.

Soft, Manipulative, Unassuming, but Eliminating Protective Yandere (Borderline Sane) - Very possessive, protective, obsessive, & is prone to jealousy. However, he's extremely unassuming, even to his Darling. As a result, there's a possibility of a real, healthy relationship growing between them if he's careful. And, once he's grown to trust her, he isn't the type to believe that his Darling is cheating on him without some damn strong & condemning evidence. Yes, he'll start off as the suspicious & paranoid sort, but as he begins to get to know her, he'll begin to trust her more, especially if she's just generally the honest & fidelous type.

Rather, he tends to not like it when she pays other men more attention than she does to him even if she's just being friendly.

Though, he also realizes when she is just being friendly & thus doesn't take it out on her. More so becoming an intimidating presence to the other man by casually, yet not overtly exerting his dominance. He also doesn't tend to be anywhere near as overt in his yandere tendencies as most in the trope are, being an overall duplicitous individual & thus, being the sort to instead try & subtly manipulate his Darling into loving & trusting him. If his Darling reciprocates, then his yandere tendencies will tend to only make themselves known occasionally. However, this can change relatively quickly if he's repeatedly rejected.

As a result of this, Wrath is most likely to go from simply obsessing over his Darling to genuinely loving her as he gets to know her, thus causing things to become more complicated.

Also not the sort to hold his Darling captive specifically unless he's rejected too many times. He will, however, quite readily eliminate anyone who tries to get between them, even if it's a woman who wants to get rid of his Darling so that she can be with him. Especially then.

"Soft" means that he'll often regret the bad things he actually does to his Darling, but that doesn't mean that he'll stop.

Very Possessive - Both of people he genuinely cares about & of things he actually likes. In terms of things, this tends to include his horse, his weapons, & books, especially books revolving around cultural anthropology, mythology, & magical practice.

Social Darwinist - Specifically, he's a Struggler (Go to TVTropes). Meaning that he believes that struggle, suffering, & competition make both an individual & a society superior. However, while he is sincere in his beliefs regarding such, he’s not so sincere that he would accept his fate with dignity if he were to lose.

In this specific life, Kōme & Kotake have made it a point to drill a very Might Makes Right philosophy into him. One in which the strong rule over the weak & the one who prevails is the one who is right & worthy of sovereignty. That those who win are allowed to do whatever they wish to the weak.

Wrath specifically seems to hate peace as he believes that the people of Hyrule have grown too soft. In this way, he desires a world of infinite conflict. As such, unless he's shaken from his beliefs & shown the consequences of such a world, any victory he could have will inevitably become a Pyyrhic one.

He'll need someone who is able to speak with him logically about it & who sees a practical use for peace. After all, after you exercise, you then take time to rest, which allows your muscles to build back stronger than before. If you were to try to train every second, your body would break down, thus weakening you. She'd need to be able to present the idea that such peace is like the calm at the eye of a storm. Just a resting point before another inevitable conflict. Which, when framed as such, I believe would be easier for a bellicist like him to understand.

Dark vs Light - He seems to associate light with safety, possibly even weakness, which he doesn't appear to see a use for. In this way, he most likely wishes for a world where people earn the right to live. So, a bit of a radical meritocrat.

However, considering the fact that he's a desert native, he should realize that light can be every bit as harrowing as the dark. The only difference is that, in the light, you can at least see your enemy coming.

In this way, it's possible that he only sees Hyrule's light as such, because the light of the desert very much isn't like this.

Grudgemental - He just has a lot of hate & anger inside him. If he feels slighted, he'll hold onto it for a long ass time. And he does plan on exacting "proportional" vengeance.

Though, his idea of "proportional" is extremely skewed.

God Complex - Something interesting about the way he speaks in the Japanese version is his use of Ware (我). It is a pronoun meaning “I.” However, very specifically, it's used to emphasize one's very existence & is typically used by anachronistic or deity-like characters. This implies that, in some sense, he views himself as a deity. And, while I have yet to investigate this part, another fan has noted that the way he speaks indicates that he views others, or at least Hyruleans, as animals compared to himself.

Sheikahphile - Not in that he has some weird fetish for Sheikah. More so that he just finds their culture & warrior traditions fascinating. The reason being that, in a lot of ways, they remind him of his own culture, but in other ways, they seem almost entirely alien to him & this makes them extremely interesting. It puzzles & enthralls him that 2 different cultures that don't often interact can be so similar in certain ways, but so different in others. If they weren't such dogged Hyrule loyalists, he'd actually be quite the fan.

Knows a lot of little tidbits about the Sheikah & has even been trying to learn the language. Even had the robe he wears designed to meld the Sheikah haori design with Gerudo patterns & colors.

Though, he's not a weeaboo-level fan, thankfully.

Methyphile - Not an alcoholic, but very much appreciates the work that goes into making it & also enjoys indulging every once in a while. Doesn't drink excessively, but when he does drink, he prefers it to be the good, high-quality shit. As such, he tends to be a bit of a snob & has a refined palate when tasting. Actually, brews his own as a hobby. Also enjoys mixology.

Sweet Tooth - Actually quite enjoys sweets. Initially believes that cooking is servant work, but quickly changes his tune if his Darling is a good cook herself & he actually tries it. At which point, he becomes quite the fan of her cooking & especially enjoys indulging in the sweets she makes. Though, he's careful not to consume too much.

Teacher's Assistant - Ya'll saw how quickly Ashei roped Link into helping her teach the Voe & You class once she knew he had the Chief's vote of confidence! There's no damn way that the Gerudo of Wrath's time didn't do the same thing with him!

As a result, he actually learned quite a lot about what the Vaien actually think about men, as well as how to woo Gerudo Vaien specifically. Which, honestly? I think is exactly how he managed to get so many Gerudo to follow him into a coup against a much larger, much more powerful kingdom with far more resources & technology thousands of years more advanced than their own.

I'd bet my last Rupee that all those Gerudo? Ganondorf's fan club that he slowly built up throughout his tenure as the Voe & You class' teaching assistant & learned to manipulate & command to do his bidding.

Which actually makes him a hell of a lot more intimidating when you think about it. Just imagine what Sasuke Uchiha could've accomplished had he learned how to control the parasitic vampire-harpies that stalked him all through his youth!

Gambling Man/Calculated Risk Taker - Recall the fact that this Gdorf sent a swarm of Molduga to attack Hyruleans... who were standing on a mountain... So, the Molduga wouldn't have even been able to get to them, most likely. Because Molduga can only swim in sand.

However, instead of this being a legitimate attempt at invasion & him being a dumbass, I think that he actually used them to get information. To test their defenses & draw out their trump card.

The fact that Hyruleans & the Gerudo were at odds with each other at this time & based on implicate evidence in the original Japanese version, they likely hadn't been on good terms in a very long time either; it's likely that not many Hyruleans traveled to the desert during this era. Thus, it's possible that the fact that Molduga can't swim on solid earth might not have been common knowledge within Hyrule.

Which the Gerudo, especially Ganondorf as their King/Chief, who actively live in the desert & have most likely hunted Molduga many times before, would absolutely be aware of. As it’s one of the most viable ways to fight them.

If I'm correct, then Wrath was probably using them as cannon fodder by using their big & intimidating appearance as well as their large numbers to bait Rauru into showing his trump card. Because, to someone who didn’t live in the desert the way that the Gerudo did, how would you react if an entire swarm of these whale-sized assholes came at you like that? Personally, I'd panic & call the guy I had the most confidence in being able to know how to handle this.

Which is precisely what they did.

Ergo, I actually think he got exactly what he wanted from that encounter.

1) A bead on the locations of some of the Secret Stones as well as who might have them.

2) A gauge of how powerful they might be.

This is very much a possibility due to the fact that not only did he not in any way seem surprised by the fact that they were taken down so easily, nor was he surprised by the amount of damage that Rauru dealt, but also the fact that he said "the Zonai's Secret Stone." Meaning that he knew about them beforehand.

However, the fact that he was willing to risk looking like an idiot says that while he's a good strategist, he's willing to take a certain degree of risk.

As such, I'm gonna take this & run with it.

He actually very much enjoys both strategy games & luck-based games that involve bluffing or maintaining absolute control of his visage.

Because of this, I actually think that he might be a bit of a card shark & that he actually doesn't mind cheating every once in a while. Like, he'd rather not (because where's the fun in that), but he will.

Because of this, I see him being good with sleight-of-hand.

He'd probably enjoy playing strip poker with his Darling. Would also absolutely teach her how to hustle people.

Also enjoys making bets. And while he's okay with cheating, if he makes a bet & he loses, he's actually very firm on keeping to said bet. Though, he may use loopholes in the wording used, whether his or theirs.

Stuck in the Past - Before Rauru ascended the throne, the land that had once been & would be rehylened (ha!) Hyrule was at war with itself. During that time, Ganondorf thrived as he had known nothing else but battle his entire life. When Rauru brought with him an era of peace, Ganondorf was suddenly faced with change that he was not ready for. He began to scorn this peace & long for the time when he flourished most.

Uncomfortable With Change - A stubborn, bullheaded man who was most comfortable when he was fighting. So, he feels ill-fitted in this new, more peaceful era brought on by King Rauru of Hyrule. He believes that it has caused people to grow soft & complacent, but in truth, he's projecting his own fears about himself should conflict not return.

In a lot of ways, he doesn't really know how to adapt to not being always in combat. It sort of drove him stir crazy.

Like, fighting? He understood that. Conflict? Totally got it. War? May as well have been his middle name.

Peace, though? Does not understand. Has no idea how to function in such circumstances & just does not see any inherent value in it.

Doesn't realize that calm is every bit as necessary to life as conflict is. Because life, by its very nature, is in a constant state of flux & change. To remain in a singular state in infinitum is tantamount to inviting stagnation, entropy, & eventual destruction regardless of whether that state is peace or war.

Good Dad - Or at least he tries to be. He was raised in every life to be an evil overlord by some iteration of Kōme & Kotake or another. And they're just never… they're not good mothers in any respect, okay? Regardless, he loves his children with all his heart. Though, that doesn't mean he'd take it easy on them. He still wants them to be warriors & be able to stand on their own.

Evil Parents Want Good Kids - Initially, he's a Family That Slays Together-type, but as he falls in love with his Darling, his desires will shift dramatically, especially if he learns the truth of Kōme & Kotake. At which point, he'll live & breathe the Evil Parent Wants Good Kids trope.

Yes, he wants them to be strong warriors & be able to command respect, but he also doesn't want them to be pigeonholed into the position of tyrant like he was raised to be. He's one of the most likely to be able to manage this aside from Envy & Gluttony.

Though, it actually has very little to do with being good or bad & more so the fact that the tendencies his mothers encouraged in him just weren't healthy. Not to mention abusive. He refuses to put his children through that. Yes, he'll be tough on them, but never outright cruel.

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[kagoutiss]

You call ganondorf a girl a lot and now I'm wondering if you actually see him as a girl in some way? I can't see him like that but I am actually really curious how you interpret his gender now

!!! so i’ve written a more in depth summary about how i interpret his gender but the short(er) version is basically like…the gerudo don’t actually have an inherent concept of gender or gender binarism, and ganondorf doesn’t really even think of himself as being a Man. but as a result of him being raised for this role that is, by hyrulean standards, contingent upon Maleness, he’s also learned to despise having to navigate hylian society in this very constrained way that is completely arbitrary in his own culture. all in order to be perceived as a proper king, or be seen by hylians as an authority figure at all, or else be called effeminate or whatever. or be constantly othered from the rest of his people in the eyes of hylians, all on the basis of his biological subtype, which just happens to be extremely rare in gerudo people

and anyway i just feel like if he had to actually tick one of the 2 boxes on some hyrulean administrative form and didn’t have to stoop to anyone’s expectations of him, then he would mark F instead of M, partly because he’s so so sick of Having To Be A Man, and partly because all of his loved ones would be boxed into the F box by default, and i like the idea that the gerudo don’t really perceive themselves as being separate from ganondorf in the same way that hylians perceive Men & Woman to be separate, if that makes sense? and he also thinks that those designations are silly in general, so he’ll kind of just do whatever he wants when he doesn’t have to stoop to those constraints. like he fully enjoys having the title of King, and he uses he/him pronouns in the hylian language and is fine with them, and he’s not particularly dysphoric about anything physically, but in his mind he just isn’t a Man. gender is a silly contrived thing to him, but he’s had to study the nuances of it for his entire life, he could literally teach Hylian Gender Studies courses if he had to. and he’ll adopt certain aspects of gender stuff that he finds funny or interesting, or that feel more fitting to him, or that just confuse/enrage people, because he enjoys doing that too. but anyway to answer your question yes he is genuinely a girl to me sometimes agskfhakfjsksk, i’m not saying it as a joke. like he’s not always a girl but he’s often a girl and he’s almost never actually a man, and every other time, he just isn’t really assigning a gender to himself at all because ultimately it’s all made up anyway

that being said tho i like reading different headcanons for him :-) like the gerudo just ending up with one trans man every century who becomes king. there’s a lot of different ways you can interpret him gender-wise, which is part of what makes him fun lol

[bradsmindbrain]

Gibdo Headcanons Because They’re Neat

● They’re not a new species by any means, having lived in The Depths under Gerudo for a very long time. Sightings of them above ground before The Upheaval where incredibly rare, and often chocked up to the heat of the desert playing with someone’s vision. They’re a native species to The Depths, much like how the Frox are.

● They’re a solitary species, preferring to stay with their own kind as opposed to other monsters. Prior to The Upheaval, they were oddly docile as well, leaving the Gerudo alone for the most part and only being directly aggressive if their hive was in danger.

● Their change in behavior is mostly a result of their Queen being infected with Gloom, making them far more aggressive. They’re seemingly intelligent enough to show some form of anger following her death, which is why they are still highly aggressive.

● Gibdos are generally sent out of their Hive to hunt in hordes led by a Moth Gibdo when they aren’t at their Hive. Moth Gibdos also guard the outside of the Hive as well.

● Rely on sheer numbers and their incredible durability to hunt prey, preferring to swarm prey en masse and tear them apart.

● Following The Upheaval, their tactics are much the same, but they have also begun making use of their corpse-like appearance as a way to perform ambushes.

● They begin lives as larva roughly the length of an arm, before rapidly developing into their adult forms over the course of several days.

● Despite the typical Gibdo being an adult, some have been shown to metamorphose into Moth Gibdos. The Queen plays a role in this process, wrapping certain female Gibdos in silk and leaving them be for a few days. During this process, the Gibdo eats its way out of its silk bindings. This silk is believed to be rich in nutrients, which stimulate the Gibdo’s body into producing wings. As a result, Moth Gibdos are always female, while the wingless ones are predominantly male.

● A new Queen is created similarly to how bees create a new queen. The Queen creates and stores a potent chemical compound, and when she is killed, her Hive feeds this compound to a Moth Gibdo. The compound causes a massive growth in size and heavily alters the body.

● Their “ribs” are actually a set of vestigial legs, which are rather useless. However, when a Moth Gibdo is turned into a Queen, these ribs develop into two extra sets of limbs.

● Their incredibly tough exoskeletons have developed as a result of how inhospitable The Depths are, with their exoskeletons protecting them from being hurt too badly by the incredibly vicious sandstorms that occasionally occur down there. In addition, larger Frox occasionally prey on Gibdo, and as such Gibdo have also developed their exoskeletons to make it far more difficult for Frox to eat them.

● However, due to their exoskeletons developing to protect against physical attacks, attacks that are more magical in nature can destroy their exoskeletons. While this isn’t guaranteed to kill the Gibdo and they can grow back their exoskeletons rather quickly, it leaves them vulnerable to more conventional attacks.

● Their diets have made their Guts a very powerful compound when used in elixirs, making them exponentially more powerful. Because of this, they’re hunted quite frequently following their discovery.

● While they prefer to hunt living creatures, they will scavenge if necessary.

● Despite having biological sexes (studies on Gibdos compared to Moth Gibdos have shown they do in fact have genders), the Queen is the only one capable of reproducing, and even then it’s done through self-fertilization.

● When they are on the surface, Molduga tend to ignore them, as their low weight makes it nearly impossible to detect their vibrations and they’re generally very quiet when not hunting.

● While they generally ignore other monsters, they avoid Fire-Breath and Electric Lizalfos and Electric Chuchus due to the risk they pose to their exoskeletons.

● Ironically, despite the adults preying on them, Gibdos seem to prefer Little Frox as food.

● They seem to be neutral towards the Yiga, as they never go out of their way to attack them even if they enter their territory.

● Their level of intelligence is hard to pin down, as while they don’t use weapons like Bokoblins, Moblins, and Lizalfos, they’re intelligent enough to use their physical appearance to try and perform ambushes and seem at least somewhat aware of their weakness to elements. Queens in particular have been shown to try and cover these weaknesses by using their wings to beat up sand into the air to extinguish flames and ground electricity. While it’s debatable how intelligent they are compared to Moblins, Bokoblins, and especially Lizalfos, they’re obviously more intelligent than more animalistic monsters like Keese and Chuchu.

[dark-elf-writes]

Prayer towards Hylia and the Three Golden Goddesses is less common these days. The rise of other religions and the all consuming and religion destroying force of Catholicism made sure of that.

Yet for every record and prayer book about Hylia and the Three Golden Goddesses destroyed, new ones pop up. And it isn't even the fault of these Goddesses.

The Sheikah after all, are very good and planting evidence and items.

And because of this, the legends live on. Whilst most think of them as fiction, the names that come from the legends aren't uncommon.

Whilst many see Gorons, Zora, Kokiri and Rito as fictional beings, they're still well known. Enough that no one confuses them for other beings and cryptids in modern day sightings.

Unfortunately, this also means that certain threats can sneak around under cover. After all, who would blink twice at a giant of a man claiming that he's of Gerudo descent? Clearly the reputation of the race being female majority to the point that males are a once in a blue moon occurrence isn't that true. The culture was probably just matriarchal.

It’s all too easy to fool the people who so willingly made themselves blind.

The Rito had flown to roost. The Zora had dove farther than any one could hope to reach. The Gorons burrowed deep. The forest spirits all but forgotten.

Those that are left hold nothing but distant stories warped and twisted over generations into something altogether unrecognizable.

So no one realizes what walks among them.

It’s so easy in this changed world to set his plans in motion. So easy when so few are left that remember. Who could possibly be left to stop him?

(He remembers when he sees two familiar heads of blonde hair that fill him with fury. Remembers when narrowed blue eyes meet his and refuse to turn away. Remembers then a hand that almost seemed to be glowing pulled the child back.

What he didn’t remember was the third child between them, ill matched in coloring and without the stench of Hylian. Not that it mattered. He would use the boy to crush them.)

[curseofpower]

I heard that when a mother is stressed, male embryos are usually the first to be terminated by the body, which now makes me think that the reason male Gerudos are so rare is just that living in the desert puts the Gerudo through so much stress that the people have grown accustomed and don't even notice it, but if a tribe were to spend a handful of generations living in a less stressful environment, there (hypothetically) could be more males than just Ganondorf. (Not sure if there is an in-game reason other than just "that how it be")

This has also kinda spurred the headcanon that the single male more often than not gets popped out by the one girl who left the desert five years ago and you start to wonder how she's doing just seconds before she strolls into the village, holding up her two-day-old son like Simba from Lion King.

............ holy shit, anon.

I actually did not know that. This being a race heavily based in fantasy, I can see it being even more severe for gerudos, maybe, as for why they'd just stop having baby boys for a whole century at a time.

Thank you for this ask.

(Pretty sure the canon explanation really is just 'that how it be' so this one is much more interesting. I've also thought about other gerudo tribes/kingdoms who might have the rare male happen, but killed the thought before I could accidentally make an OC.)

[cackled0g]

Can you pretty please tell some of your Ganondorf and/or Triforce hot takes 'n' theories... I'm in a big LoZ mood and wanna hear you ramble.

Why hello anon, of course I would like to speak on mein Dorf and Force theories. Incredibly long post beneath the cut.

Starting with the Triforce, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think that the Triforce on a narrative and character level represents not the trait a character necessarily embodies the most, but the one they most desire. Take OOT Ganondorf for example. Ganondorf is certainly a powerful person--leader of the Gerudo, usurper of the Hyrule crown, general 7'5" badass. In OOT, when Link gets the Master Sword and goes into magical puberty sleep for seven years or so, he unintentionally also opens up the Sacred Realm. The Sacred Realm is like a pocket dimension created by the Golden Goddesses (creator deities) of Hyrule. It also changes depending on the pureness of heart of who enters. Wicked people see like a evil hellscape, heroic people see Hylian heaven. As per Sheik in OOT "The resting place of the sacred triangle, the Sacred Realm, is a mirror that reflects what is in the heart...the heart of one who enters it..." [1] (ignore that I'm using fan wiki as a source, i'm not booting up my 3ds and playing through OOT until I come across this dialogue.)

Anyways, so the Triforce, when whole, will grant you any wish. This happens like, several times in the series. In WW the boat king guy uses it to flood Hyrule, in LBTW Link uses it to create an entirely new Triforce to give to Lorule because they like pawned theirs off or something.

The catch is that if you touch the Triforce and you aren't pure of heart, it shatters. You get one slice of the proverbial pie, put a pin in that, and the other two pieces go run away and hide in a host body. This is the Golden Goddesses' security system, presumably in place so that any jagoff can't waltz into the Sacred Realm and wish for something stupid.

So, when Ganondorf touches the Triforce it shatters, he gets the Triforce of Power, Zelda/Sheik gets the Triforce of Wisdom, and Link gets the Triforce of Courage.

Back to that pin. Once again referencing Sheik's dialogue in OOT (Hyrule's second most popular tboy!), it can be understood that when the Triforce splits, whoever touched it gains the piece that represents the part of the Triforce that represents what they most believe in [2]. A lot of people in the fan community seem to take this to mean that you get the part of the Triforce that represents some part of your personality--Ganondorf gets Power because big, Zelda gets Wisdom because smart, and Link gets Courage because main character. I would argue that it's somewhat the opposite.

So, the most important thing to understand about the Gerudo is that they are the most downtrodden, put-upon, marginalized race in Hyrule. They have the worst land, the smallest population, and the harshest living conditions. The other Hylian races simultaneously fetishize and fear them. This is interesting to me on a meta level, because the Gerudo are really kind of an orientalist caricature in OOT (and most of their appearances honestly), but in making them that way, Nintendo kind of accidentally made them a.) way more sympathetic (at least to me) than the rich Hylian kingdom and b.) a statement about Orientalism. [3][4][5][6] They are an insular race of thieves and cutthroats who subsist off of robbing Hylians and, presumably, are doomed to eternally have dwindling numbers due to a combination of the fact that they don't trust outsiders (note: I am intentionally excluding BOTW here because I strongly dislike the characterization of the Gerudo there. Also, for the purposes of this argument, BOTW is so far forward in the timeline that it is almost entirely irrelevant to discussions about OOT on a lore level) and only have one male born every hundred years due to...reasons. It is stated in OOT that Gerudo women sometimes seek out Hylian partners, but this is never actually shown, to my knowledge. [7] The natural conclusion of this seems to me to be that either the Gerudo will eventually die out without any ability to reproduce at a rate above their death rate, or they will eventually mingle enough with the other Hylian races that all Gerudo will be more Hylian or Zora than Gerudo. (I don't even know how Gorons breed honestly.)

Back on topic, the Gerudo are eternal victims who have to steal to survive. Ganondorf is born at some point, taken in by his witch mommy/witch mommies, and becomes king because the male Gerudo is always the king. [8] You would think that a race of mostly women would be more feminist than this but this game was produced in the 90's. Anyway, Ganondorf sees the suffering of his people, and this has a profound impact upon him. From Windwaker:

"My country lay within a vast desert. When the sun rose into the sky, a burning wind punished my lands, searing the world. And when the moon climbed into the dark of night, a frigid gale pierced our homes. No matter when it came, the wind carried the same thing… Death. But the winds that blew across the green fields of Hyrule brought something other than suffering and ruin. I coveted that wind, I suppose." [9]

Now this is on a literal level, a statement about wind, but on a deeper level, this is Ganondorf's way of talking about privilege, and with privilege comes power. Hyrule is wealthy, comprised of multiple settlements when the other races generally only have one. They have a castle, they have an army, and, most importantly, they have the best land. The Gorons and the Zora are suited to their environments. The Goron don't want to have Hyrule Field, because the rocks in their mountain are just much yummier to them. The Zora don't want to live in Hyrule Castle Town, because they're wet little fish people, and they need to be in the water. The Kokiri need their forest, the Sheikah need their legacy of torturing people for the royal family, etc ad infinitum. Everyone in Hyrule has a niche to fill except the Gerudo. There is nothing about being Gerudo that makes living in the desert easier. Ganondorf and his people are suffering. They are starving. They are dying from the elements.

Ganondorf sees this, and it fundamentally changes him. From Four Swords Adventures:

"Once every 100 years, a special child is born unto my people. That child is destined to be the mighty guardian of the Gerudo and the desert. But this child, its heart grew twisted with every passing year. The child became a man who hungered for power at any price." [10]

So Ganondorf is hungry for power. More than that, Ganondorf is starving for power, Ganondorf will sacrifice anyone and anything to wet his teeth with the taste of it. He sacrifices his humanity (Gerudity?) when he takes the Triforce of Power and his body is physically changed. He sacrfices his people, and his reputation with them, up to and including his literal second-in-command [11]. He sacrifices Hyrule itself. Look at how the land itself bleeds in his presence! Hyrule is crumbling apart in his hands, and he holds onto still tighter.

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And so, when he touches the Triforce, he gets only one piece, the Triforce of Power.

I think that Zelda is an interesting character in OOT. I tend to think of her as a Cassandra of sorts. Here is a child with a perception that everyone around her seems to lack. She has prophetic dreams, and seemingly out of everyone in Hyrule castle, she is the only one who can see that Ganondorf has bad intentions. [13][14] Yet, with all of the knowledge, she has no real ability to act on it. Her father, the king, holds council with Ganondorf despite her wishes. She is trapped in the castle walls, protected by guards, but also caged in by them. She knows what must be done to save Hyrule, but she it utterly unable to do anything about it. [15]

And, in the end, it's ultimately her actions that allow Ganondorf to obtain the Triforce of Power when he does. If she hadn't instructed Link on where to get the two remaining Spiritual Stones, if she hadn't given Link the Ocarina of Time, he would have never been able to open up the Temple of Time, withdraw the Master Sword from the pedestal, and open up the Sacred Realm. Thus, the Sacred Realm would never have been left open and unguarded. Now, anon, I hear you yelling at me through your screen right now. "But Dean, you beautiful big-brained badass," you say. "Ganondorf would have done that either way! Zelda may have sped things up, but Ganondorf would have gotten into the Temple of Time anyways, he had already conspired to get the Spiritual Stones in the first place!"

Oh anon, I reply. Thank you for the compliment on my amazingly juicy brain. Ganondorf couldn't have opened the Sacred Realm by himself because he would never have been able to pull the Master Sword from its pedestal. [16]

Now, to be clear, it would be blatantly ridiculous to blame Zelda for this. There is no possible way she could have known this, even with her divine knowledge. But it is, indirectly, her fault, is it not? Zelda gets the Triforce of Wisdom, as a sort of slap in the face. "Here," says fate, or the gods, presumably grinning like a Cheshire cat. "Here is the clarity that could have prevented this."

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