#terfs and Radfems are BIGOTS

[bunnygirl-titties]

TERFS/Radfems will say;

“Women are women because of their organs, therefore trans women aren’t women”

And;

“But how dare you minimize women to their organs that’s misogynistic”

All in the same sentence, and than not understand why everyone is laughing at them, or why no one takes them seriously 🤣

Honeydew melon, read that again super slowly, and maybe out loud. Preferably out loud to someone who has a grasp on reality!

[glitter-soda]

I think society’s quick acceptance of the current mainstream trans movement is a prime example of the “so open-minded your brains fall out” quote

[hippityhoppityyourenowmyproperty]

@fluffytimearts

[nothing0fnothing]

"Radical feminism is terf feminism. We all know what you mean when you tag #radfem on your man hating posts." - literally people who have no idea what radical feminism is, and I can't even blame them because terfs ruin everything for everyone.

Radical feminism is the belief that in order to have a truly equal sociey, old systems that uphold inequality need to be torn down and radically rebuilt anew. (Yes a truly gender equitable society includes trans people, why tf wouldn't it?) Feminists in the 70s beleived it and 50 years later its still true, we cannot create equality within an unfair system. We can patch the cracks to try to make it more equal than it was, but after 50 years of patching cracks we know better than ever that the reason people are still disenfranchised in 2023 is because they live in a society that was not created to fairly treat them.

Society will not be truly equal until we create a system that is. That is the core belief of all radical feminism.

Literally no part of that ideology requires gender essentialism to work. Actually gender essential ideology completely opposes radical feminism at its core and combining the two is pretty fucking braindead.

I mean, you're telling me that you beleive that terfs believe gender equality must be predicated by a society that has completely, radically changed every antiquated system and structure but the structure that needs to stay exactly the same as it was in the 1900s and never adapt into modernity or improve at all is the sociological understanding of gender itself? That's crazy. So crazy I'd argue that, No they don't beleive that.

Terfs beleive trans people are icky and gross but know "icky and gross" is not a valid argument, so they stick "feminist" in front of their weird cis only gender ideology thinking it gives it some validity. It doesn't. Terfs, real radfems see through you and the entire feminist community hate you and you know why.

Truly, terfs aren't actually feminists. They're bigots who identify as feminists. They want to be in progressive spaces because as women (and weirdly a lot of them are lesbians but thats a topic for another day) their views will not be heard in conservative ones, but that doesn't mean they belong here. Their circa 1910 inspired gender theory doesn't belong in any progressive, feminist space today, and they know it because on every lefist space they land in they're torn apart and on every Joe Rogan esque, Fox News inspired platform they thrive.

They don't like being called sugar tits on the street or being hit on by their boss, and they think that that makes them feminists, but the truth is the only change they want to see in the existing power structures is change that will only help them. They want a society that supports only cis women. Primarily the white, straight and wealthy women who are happy to conform to bioessentialist gender ideology and uphold patriarchal values, so long as they can work a 9 to 5 and call it #girlbossing at the same time.

They don't actually want to see old structures of power and inequality brought down and radically rebuilt anew. They don't care about most women and they're not radical feminists. They're feminist identified bigots, so I call them FIBs, because even their feminism is a lie.

[ileftherbackhome]

Something that annoys me to no end is when terfs rewrite history and claim that woman was "always" defined as adult female human because no it fucking wasn't.

You dumb ass bitches have never spoken to a black American woman and it fucking shows.

Btw, "womanhood" was originally defined by both race and gender in America.

No matter how hard you cry about it, it doesn't change the fact that black women were excluded from womanhood based on their skin color and the fact that slavery was genetically passed down through the mother.

In short, black women were literally defined as slaves and not "true women," and to pretend like woman has always been defined in one way is fucking racist and factually inaccurate.

Changing the definition to mean a woman is whoever identifies as one removes third parties coming in and doing that again to black or queer women. It gives women self-advocacy in part because of the racist history between the word woman u dumb cunts.

[angelthingy]

the thing is i think that like. afab and amab as terms arent like. a bad thing?? like if you're talking about urself and ur assigned gender happens to be relevant and is preferrable to another descriptor (eg if ur dysphoric abt ur body to some it may be easier to say ur agab rather than describing ur features) or describing a situation where thats relevant then like. sure! its just like any other word u just use it cus it makes sense- (note this only applies if YOU'RE using the term when you're talking about YOURSELF)

the problem is that when other people use or ask for someone's agab there's some kind of weird implication that it somehow changes how you behave, and that based on that you can put people into a new binary which shouldnt exist and negatively effects all trans people

people ask if you're amab expecting that to mean you're inherently more patriarchal, dangerous, "masculine" - and if you're afab expecting that to mean you're inherently more quiet, sweet, "feminine" - and BOTH of these fucking suck!!

[antifathomable-shapeshifter]

gender is truly the least helpful axis of oppression to center tbh. the only reason we have to focus on it, instead of using to highlight specifics that occur within other intersections, is because 2nd wave/radfem white women want(ed) to be the specialist Most Oppressed Group Ever. and now, decades past that, we still have to deal with dipshits who claim to be progressive and yet refuse to accept that Being A Man doesn't save you from Dealing With Systems of Oppression (including the patriarchy!)

[hazel2468]

Just my personal opinion but I think that if you are a Jew and also a TERF/rad-fem/transphobe then you're a fucking disgrace and a shame unto us all.

[nando161mando]

[king-killaway]

Oh don't you just love transwomen getting perma banned off this site and transmen's voices being silenced every damn day on here

Only for the explosion of extremely bigoted terf rhetoric to be spewed left and right everywhere on this damn platform?

Its so fun isn't it

[knifeslidez]

anyone remember that terf that was interacting with mcr blogs, butchviking? yeah they're back as torosdottir now

[gender-euphowrya]

i'm not sniffling begging or asking nicely i am holding you at gunpoint to make triple fucking sure you don't reblog transphobic memes. Unthank you

[hippityhoppityyourenowmyproperty]

Terfs: Omg yeah we support 🤗 AFABs no matter what they chose to do with their lives! ❤ Be whatever you want to be, don't let the patriarchy 🙅‍♀️ dictate what you can and can't do! 😆

AFABs: Ok

AFABs: *Sign up for surrogacy* *Voluntarily become sex workers* *Identify as anything other than a woman* *Shave* *participate in bdsm* *Enjoy having sex with a man*

Terfs: Um?!? 😟 Actually?!? 😬🤨 Haha sweetie you shouldn't do that. 🙂 That's bad for you. 🙂 You're being brainwashed into liking these things. 🧠 You should only do what we say is okay. 😚 Clearly you are to naive and dumb to know what is best for you. 🥺 So sad to lose another one of us 💔 to the evil 👹 trans cult. 😔😪

[lamngen]

In relation to my last reblog. Well a bit TMI so (Content Warning for SA & transphobia)

Shes the cunt who abused sexually of me & various other people. Shes a TERF & a dumbass and I genuinely hope she dies theres no saving her. Last time she dared to speak to me she tried apologizing for SA'ing me & being a manipulative piece of shit, weeks later she got a warning post made about her describing what she did to the person who made the post & It was pretty much the same shit she did to me in 2017 but in 2020. So yes I hope she dies in a very painful way soon.

[ileftherbackhome]

What annoys me about the whole terf position is that cis men do not need to "dress up" as women in order to rape us and the whole hate filled bigoted position that trans women need to be "gatekept" from women's only spaces is that it necessarily assumes cis men are not already raping us dressed as well... CIS MEN.

Like a man has never put on a dress in order to rape a woman, it doesn't happen. Every terf "trans predator" can be disproven by realizing half of them are gnc cis women or their transness has nothing to do with the crime they committed and they were trans loooong before they ever committed a crime. That's like holding up a black criminal and saying "see this proves ALLLLLLLLLLLLL black people are criminals" its fucking bigotry, point blank period but their examples are hoaxes that are disproven by a quick Google search into their examples and it's very easy to recognize propaganda if you start assuming that every "infograph" of "dangerous" groups of minority predators is white supremacist behavior, point blank period.

And even if you grant this INSANE ILLOGICAL AND SCIENTIFICALLY WRONG STATEMENT that ALLLLLLLLLLLLL (100%) trans people, both men and women, are sex predators you are still left with 99% of rapists at large.

If you exclude trans men and focus on ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL trans women, you still are left with 99.6% of all rapists at large.

Like, the position does not in fact keep women safe at all and to pretend like it does is ridiculous.

If men could wear a dress and get away with raping a woman, they would be doing it in DROVES mother fucker.

Stop pretending like your TRANSPHOBIA is based in "science" or is "logical" because it is FACTUALLY AND SCIENTIFICALLY WRONG AND INACCURATE.

If you want to be a fucking bitch, say it with your whole chest. Don't hide behind your vagina or uphold rape culture in order to fear monger and oppress 0.5% of the population, 1% if you're a terf who focuses equally on all trans people, because of some DELUSIONAL notion you have that trans people have "all the power and privilege" in this society and they're "evil rapists" who are coming to get you.

Just fucking say you're ignorant and value your emotions over the facts in order to act like your assumed superiority grants you the right to OPPRESS A FUCKING MINORITY.

You're disgusting trash, but I'd respect you more if you spoke the truth behind your illogical fear of trans women/people instead of pretending like statistics or the fucking facts agree with you they dont.

[not-poignant]

Pia! I need some advice. There's a writer on ao3 whose fics I really like (well, 'love' would probably be a better word) but I've just found out they are a TERF 😭

I had no idea because they don't post anything personal or political on their main tumblr and they don't write fics that reflect these views but I found their side blog and its full of terf and redfem stuff

Now I'm feeling guilty for enjoying their work and also sad because a part of me just wants to keep reading their works despite this because they really are a good writer and have kept their personal views out of their stories but...... UGGHHHHH TERF 😭😭😭

What should I do? Should I stop reading? Should I block them? Or should I separate the artist from the art and just enjoy the fics?

I am not cis btw so I feel really selfish for just wanting to ignore that stuff and keep reading.

Hi anon,

I'm sorry you've found yourself in this situation. There's no point feeling guilty about something that you could never have possibly known until this moment, though I understand that the guilt still happens, it's not like you can be expected to know this stuff when you're just trying to enjoy fics on the internet, y'know? The main thing is you know now. Guilt is a good feeling for getting us to stop and pay attention, and now you're doing that.

As for what happens next, I can't really answer this for you, but I can talk around a few points which might be worth considering re: continuing to read the fic/s or not.

Separating the 'artist from the art' is almost always hugely misinterpreted, and it often doesn't mean 'pretend the artist doesn't matter so I can keep enjoying their content.' Ultimately you have to decide for yourself what you will or won't accept, and that will be down to your personal ethics or values, and how you express those ethics or values.

If my favourite fanfic author was suddenly revealed to be a TERF (unlikely as they're trans, but y'know, it could happen), I personally couldn't enjoy their writing anymore. I wouldn't be able to escape into their stories or characters, knowing the person who wrote this thing I love doesn't believe in my right to exist as I am, and wants to constantly debate my human rights. I can't suspend my disbelief that much.

But then, on the other hand, I can still watch the films of Harvey Weinstein, a horrible fucking human being and scum on earth, and justify this by knowing that many of the people who made that film are not horrible fucking human beings and he is not the only person to consider. Some people would disagree with my choice. Others will understand.

That's me, but everyone is different on matters like that, and so then it comes down to how you show support. If you continue to read this author but never give them a platform, never like their fic, comment on the chapters, interact with them in any way, rec it to another person (not without 'you should also know they're a rabid transphobe'), be a 'silent consumer' etc. and consider this the way that you demonstrate that you don't support this person's beliefs/views, that's also valid. You still express your values by lending nothing to this person that they can then benefit from. This is how some trans people still consume the works of JKR - making sure she never sees a single cent or benefit under the proud flag of piracy - for example. There are going to be other trans people who disapprove of this, or don't like this, who even make good arguments against it, and tbh, I'm on the fence about it myself, I can just understand why people come to this place with it.

Some of those expressions of our values can be problematic - paying for the work of someone who is transphobic (which you're obviously not doing in the case of fic) directly benefits a transphobe who is publicly transphobic. That's just...straight up harmful. That doesn't really express your values. In fact it may express opposite values. Reccing the fics of this author for example, knowing other trans readers might find the side blog one day and feel deeply wounded and betrayed, expresses opposite values - this would be problematic.

You might be someone who sends them a message anonymously or similar, to let them know that their views are hurtful/hateful and ask how they feel knowing that trans people are reading their stories, and see if they respond to you. Maybe they've never thought about it before. But you don't owe them that kind of labour. You may also want to consider naming/shaming them, to at least do fellow folks in your community the courtesy of avoiding a transphobe. The fact that you've gone out of your way to protect their identity even in this anon, is not something you owe them.

There are going to be different ways you make peace with this situation anon, and don't be surprised if they change over time, depending on how you feel about it. People can only tell you what they would do based on their values, and you must sit down with your own values and decide which actions support your values, and which go against them. We don't all express these things in exactly the same way. As long as you're not expressing harmful or opposite values, you're generally going to be okay, and there is sometimes room in that to still enjoy the fic, if that is something you're able to do.

(Please see the tags since I address this in a bit more detail - although the tl;dr there is - have you considered that instead of continuing to be entertained by the works of a transphobe, maybe if you stopped reading them, you'd find someone you liked just as much, if not more, who will replace them? Sometimes the harm we do is simply in giving our time and energy to someone who wishes we didn't exist, and is actively protesting against our existence - when we could look for others to entertain us who don't expect horrible ethical quandaries from us just to enjoy what they're creating).

(Also, for the record re: other folks reading (I kind of wish I hadn't been forced to respond to this publicly lmao and I'm still in two minds re: whether I'll keep it up), I'm also trans, so I feel like I can talk about the grey area more in this specific issue. I am not advising or advocating for example that white people actively read and engage in the fanfiction of known racists. This is very much - I am talking about this one thing, from a trans person to a trans person, about transphobia in the community and in the works of creators we might enjoy - and I very much want to stay focused on that).