#talia al ghul headcannon

[zephyr-ro-emenki]

Random Batfam Headcanon's #17:

The reason Ra's Al Ghul has a rule in place that only a male can be his heir, is not because he's sexist, it's because strangely enough, every female in his bloodline is really emotional, like, a concerningly high amount of emotional breakdowns and overall girl failures. And Thalia, counter to popular belief, is actually Really fucking emotional. Like, she's a very good actress, able to hold up the mask of "Immortal seductress assassin who has seen more than your showing and is not impressed."

But once she's behind closed and private doors, she's a blushing Anemic mess because she accidentally saw a guys nipple.

The duality of Thalia is extremely break neck.

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Thalia (in public): "My dear boys shall never fail to impress me. Train well, and you shall always be rewarded."

Damian: "As always Mother."

Jason: "Thank you for the compliment... Mom..."

Thalia:

Thalia: "Keep up the good work."

Thalia (now behind closed doors):

Thalia, now collapsed on her knees with emotional tears running down her face and a wide smile: "HE CALLED ME MOM!!!"

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Ra's: "...Daughter, why are you crying this time?"

Thalia, full ugly cry: "wHy Do ThE bAbY gOaTs HaVe To Be So ADORABLE?!?!?! "

Ra's: 😮‍💨

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Bruce, Finding Thalia crying for the first time in Wayne Manor: "Thalia?! What's wrong?!?!"

Thalia: "T-th-they... I-in C-C-Cincinnati, The-they... ThEy ShOt A GORILLA! tHeY kiLLeD HiM bRuCe!! HiS nAmE wAs HaRaMbE aNd He DiD nOtHiNg WrOnG!!! hE wAs JuSt a CuRiOuS cReAtUrE wHo WaNtEd To MaKe a NeW fRiEnD wItH a KiD wHo FeLL into HiS eNcLoSuRe!!! WHY?!?! WhY dId He NeEd To DIE?!?!?! WhEn I FiNd WhO sHoT HiM, I'm gOnNa KILL THEM!!!"

Bruce:

Alfred: "Might I interest you in a tissue, my lady?"

Thalia: "ThAnK yOu..."

[teapartiesandfandom]

Random batfamily headcanons

duke is genderfluid and loves wearing skirts, says that they give more freedom of movement and even wears them to galas, pissing off the Gotham elite.

Jason listens to paris paloma all the time. His favorite song is ‘as good as a reason’ because he too is a being full of spite and anger and love for his community

tim has beef with Slade wilson, for like no reason. No one is sure what happened but slade doesn’t come to gotham anymore

damian had a lot of issues it’s the family at first mainly y because they insulted his mother, he was totally willing to try until they insulted his mother and then he just decided to be difficult to everyone

Bruce does not like social media but will use it to harass lex luthor as much as he can

in worlds where ollie and bruce know each other’s identities, they harass people together. Dinah and Babs make it so much worse. It brings everyone joy

In worlds that Slade and Dick are dating, it’s actually duke who gives the shovel talk. Duke who is literally the child of a god, who’s eyes glow with his divinity who’s hair floats, who can see the future like an oracle, smiles at slade, too sharp teeth bared and warns him, warns hi that the bats do not kill but Demigods are exempt from rules

Jason is transmasc and he remembers being a girl, it’s why he’s so protective of all the women in his life.

tim and duke skateboard together as a bonding activity, Duke is annoyingly good at it

talia thinks that duke is the best influence on her son because duke would never say anything rude or mean about talia, ever. he knows what it’s like too have a complicated family and if there’s one thing that he’s certain of, it’s that Talia loves her son

[7weaslesinacoat]

i like to think talia al ghul would do stuff like sneaking into the manor and putting a cheesy note in damian’s lunchbox with xoxos and advice for how to handle the day.

i know canonically, probably would never happen, but let me dream.

[foultreenightmare]

I'm not very sure how making a baby in a tube works, but if we're going off Talia putting damian in a tube to grow him, she probably made Damian look like her.

All I'm saying is if I were a mother and were able to make my child look like me, I would.

So my new head cannon is that Damuan looks like his mother and nothing like his father besides maybe his height because Talia wasn't about to have her baby boy look like his father.

[1-8oo-wtfbro]

What if, people really didn’t leave the league? like, in fics and comics it’s always ppl sneaking away in the dead of night and then being hunted down. But, what if that wasn’t the case? What if, when you swore in, you (unknowingly or knowingly to you) pledged your soul to Ra’s Al Ghul, to the Al ghuls, and to the League of Assassins.

so you can run, but it always feels wrong, and you always end up back there, bc your soul it tugging you back to where it is pledged, where it’s tethered. And when you die, your soul doesn’t go to heaven or hell, but you continue to serve the al ghuls as ghosts.

Bruce doesn’t count, bc Ra’s let him go; he respected the detective too much to enslave him (he pledged to so as to get trained by the league). Jason and Cass weren’t technically part of the league, since they never formally pledged.

And because of this, the Al ghuls have this weird relationship with the dead and souls. They can actually sense/see all ghosts, but only control the ones who are pledged to them. similar thing with magic- they have it in their blood. they have a 6th sense for it, like it almost leaves a residue that they can sense/see.

[randomasfuk]

Right hear me out Talia and Kate Kane would be an absolute power couple I mean Tahlia is implied to be bi

[swaggy-lee23]

I just know that birthdays in the Al Ghul family are a huge thing. They don’t celebrate like normal people ofc. While they do get each other gifts they do not just get given out. With their extra asses no way. In order for the birthday boy or girl to receive their gifts they must survive the birthday games.

What are The Birthday Games you may be asking? On the day of your birthday from sunrise to sunset it’s up to you to survive a series of assassination attempts from other members of the family. Everything is fair game and after every attack you fend off or avoid you receive a present.

At the end of the day after you have won all of your prezzies ( or taken a dip in the forbidden swimming pool ) all of the league gets together and a feast is held in the birthday persons honour to celebrate another year of survival.

[starlightshadowsworld]

Talia al Ghul man...

Not the love interest of Bruce Wayne.

Not the daughter of the demons head or Damian's mother.

Just Talia.

I like to think she wears heeled boots but wears the cosiest of slippers when she's alone.

Speaks like 5 languages, Arabic, Mandarin, Urdu, Turkish, and English.

Gives larges tips at restaurants like it's nothing.

Shares Damian's love for animals, has a particular soft spot for cats and birds.

Has notebooks written in a code only she knows where she writes about her dreams.

Pretends she doesn't care for gossip, but absolutely thrives on drama.

Taught herself how to write calligraphy.

Enjoys hiking and taking long walks to clear her mind.

Hates when people mispronounce her name and will mispronounce theirs until they say her's correctly.

Can put on a facade that even Ra's can't see through.

Has a locket with a picture of her mother and her inside.

Both loves and resents her father.

Enjoys watching cooking shows and has gone on rants and roasted the contestants.

Loves a good argument, revels in debating and outsmarting people.

Her favourite colour is dark green.

She can't stand jeans.

Absolutely loves getting henna on her arms and has even drawn her own designs.

Secretly loves marshmallows and has a stash in her room.

I think fondly of her, just being Talia.

[fancyfade]

Hi! Just wanted to say that i love reading your analysis and your knowledge on comics astounds me

Question, do you view any of dc's heroes as autistic? (If thats too much just batfam is fine)

Thank you for all your thoughts and mini essays 💚

Ty!! Glad to hear you enjoy it!

Ok right. So I'm thinking in general about DC characters I imagine as autistic. Batfam is easy to start with b/c I"ve read so much, but I'll include other characters as well

Cassandra Cain (Batgirl) - This is kind of a gimme, almost everyone headcanons Cass as autistic b/c she is explicitly textually neurodivergent (but they do not give her a real world diagnosis) and canonically has problems with language.

Damian Wayne (Robin) - another one I've seen a lot of. He has difficulties socializing that COULD be chalked up to being raised as an assassin, but also.... its in a way that's realistic for very many autistic people :P he also generally does not care about gaining the approval of everyone around him, like he's prickly and often unlikable but he's not trying to be liked.

Barbara Gordon (Oracle) - she reads as so autistic to me. Her conflict with Dinah in the beginning of BoP is positioned in the text as right brained vs left brained, which I think doesn't really make a lot of sense neurologically but does work as words the characters are using to describe things - the just think differently. Babs often reads as if she's coming at things from what in her perspective is trying to be analytical and unemotional (tho I do not think she always succeeds in this), and keeps people at arms length socially.

Bruce Wayne - he just reads as kind of autistic to me :P

Talia al Ghul - same :P

Milagro Reyes (Jaime Reyes/Blue Beetle's little sister) - she's not a superhero but she reads as very autistic to me. We have scenes where we see her clearly upset by sudden change, she also acts generally very similar to how I did as a little kid. We see her blocking everyone out by watching the TV when a lot of new stuff is going on in the house.

Raven - NTT Raven reads as very autistic to me as well. NGL just like many other characters this can be explained by other factors (She was raised in a cult in another dimension, taught not to emote, and is fighting off the influence of her demonic father) but also. They keep doing characters that are relatable to neurodivergent people like that ;P

Back when I watched YJ, I had very strong opinions about Kaldur'ahm being autistic. I still do, even tho I don't normally count the animated tv shows in my version of DC

I also feel a case could be argued for Diana of Themyscira/Wonder Woman. But I am still marinating this in my brain.

[umesky]

Talia surrogative mother

Jason, dragging Roy into the room: "Mooooom, come meet my boyfriend! He loves pointy outdated weapons, saying fuck you to authority, and pissing off Bruce! He also has a badass daughter who loves animals and kicking men in the nuts!"

Talia, pulling a wedding ring out of who knows where: "He makes you happy, and pisses off Bruce? How soon can he join the family? I've always wanted a granddaughter."

[zephyr-ro-emenki]

Random Batfam Headcanon's #23: The Adoption Habit Trilogy!

(continuation of #22)

Another thing the Batfam has a habit of adopting (but this time collectively) is mother figures.

Of course, we have Thalia, who is Damian's birth mother (and the one Jason refers to when he speaks of Mom), and the rest of the Batfam have a precedent to call Thalia Mom in that her and Bruce were once in fact married, and the only reason they split up and never had a happy married life being that Ra's ordered her to tell Bruce she had a miscarriage with Damian and return home with him. So, the rest of the family can (and in life and death situations where they need to stun her, Have) called her mom.

Then there's Selina, Bruce's on again, off again love interest that he was also engaged to. She's the one most Batfam members seeing when they picture Bruce actually settling down with someone, and she's truly become either their mother or their spinster Aunt who has a lot of useful (but criminal) habits that your parents don't want you to know (and the difference depends entirely on the writer for that comic run.)

Now, we get into the Various Female Heroes (and newspaper journalist) that get referred to as Aunt but they all mentally call them Mom.

We have Lois Lane (the Batkids have a running betting pool for when either Bruce or Damian Realizes they've unintentionally started dating the Kent Family. Tim doesn't count, he knows for a fact he's blatantly dating Kon. And so, The Kents have become referred to internally by the Batkids as the In-Laws.)

We have Wonder Woman (the full equalizer to the Throuple that is Bruce, Lois, and Clark, truly making it a Polycule. She also just radiates mom energy.)

We have Zatanna (this is mostly just a joke from Steph being Horny/stupid on main and accidentally posting the words "Magic Mommy" in the Batfam chat when referring to Zatanna's show coming to Gotham. It's stuck around longer than they ever thought it would.)

We have Dinah (she's the family therapist for not just the Batfam, but also the therapist of the entire JL, of course she radiates Mom energy.)

We have Leslie Thompkins (she's the Batfam's go to doctor, they've all been high on painkillers and accidentally referred to her as Mom before.)

And thats it if you don't count some Batfam members jokingly and sarcastically referring to Harley and Pamela as "Mom" in that very mid-Teens sarcasm that everyone gets, and Harley becoming a hyperactive parent like "OMG IVY WE HAVE KIDS!!!" and Pamela having to calm her down with "Harley, Darling, love of my life, centerpiece of my garden, they're little menaces." Only for Harley to respond "I know, aren't they PERFECT!?!?!?!"

[iamumbra195]

Not really in the DC fandom and I don't really read many comics but I've been seeing some videos and posts making headcanons about the Al-Ghul family being Muslim and it pisses me off so much.

This interpretation is deeply rooted in Islamophobia and the ignorant notion that every Arab is a Muslim and therefore a "terrorist". The Al-Ghuls are not and have never been Muslims and any parts of the religion found in their characters are likely due to the fact that Arab culture has a lot of aspects of Islam mixed into it and because again, people think that being Arab and being Muslim are the same thing and a lot of the comic writers are white Americans who commonly have this misconception about Arabs.

I'm not going to go into the specifics of everything because 1) I don't know all that much about canon and 2) this is a little hard to explain but I will give several examples that pretty much disprove that headcannon because The Al-Ghuls do things that are considered major sins in Islam on the daily.

Ra's runs an assassin league/cult and despite what many people think killing people is a major sin in Islam except in very specific scenarios where it may be excused like in self-defence or in war. And what the Al-Ghuls do? That isn't excusable in any way.

Ra's' name in and of itself is proof. His name means the Demon Head and I promise you a proper practicing Muslim would not call themself that or commit the atrocities he has on innocent people. I don't know if this is true but I saw on the wiki that apparently a character named Gerhardt asked him if he was a man or a fiend from hell and Ra's, said that he was both and neither and that he was "Ra's al-Ghul". A Muslim would not associate themself with Hell, a place where evildoers are punished in the afterlife.

Talia committed zina (fornication), yet another major sin, and wears extremely revealing clothing despite the fact that modesty is an integral part of the religion.

The Al-Ghuls drink wine, eat pork and apparently Damian was often fed ox blood soup as a child despite the fact that all these things are explicitly forbidden for Muslims to consume in verses of the Quran. (To clarify a bit, in case you're confused about the ox blood soup, Muslims are forbidden from consuming animal blood because it is considered filthy and harmful, much like pork and wine.)

Not to mention the whole thing about Ra's nearly being 500 years old and the Lazarus Pits apparently reviving him every time he dies... but that's a whole can of worms I don't know enough about to open

So yeah, the headcanon that the Al-Ghuls are Muslims perpetuates harmful stereotypes about Islam as a whole. There probably is more to be said about this topic but unfortunately, I haven't read many comics and have only watched a few of the DC animated movies so I can't say much more.

Feel free to correct me if I've said something incorrect or missed something important.

[hana-no-seiiki]

Okay but does the batfam know that Jason is CV reader's favorite or are they in their delulu era?

If they are, I imagine they think he's just THAT good in the sheets with how much he and reader bone. It might hurt their ego, but they won’t have to face the fact that they are fun and he is more.

... you don't have to answer this but does cv reader ever thought of boning Thalia? It would be weird because of Damian, but that is Thalia al Ghul! For fucks sake she is so cool!

I think for the favorite part, Reader keeps somewhat of a veneer in terms of it. Like yeah they hang out the most with Red Hood but it’s totally because they’re just making up for lost time and not because they have an aching need to be with him and protect him. Like totally not because of that. (/s)

The ironic part is as per my fave headcannon of Jason, he would be the least knowledgeable despite his fuckboy aura.

And thought about boning Talia? My guy if Selina wasnt the first Catwoman, they would have already boned to hell and back.

At first it was just mindless sex for the sake of releasing stress. A little reward for when you started displaying some signs of sanity after you loss. But often times, like many of your villain buddies, you’d drop by their respective lairs and make a little love.

Which brings me to the next point,

I feel like villains may or may not heavily target Red Hood due to him stealing you away from them.

Really, the boys don’t have to do much. They just have to get a little petty by dropping Jason’s location once in a while whenever they think you two have been getting a little too close lately.

There is one villain that got a little too mad that you weren’t giving him the attention he wanted nay needed from his feline counterpart —

a little guy that goes by the alias FENRIR

(also Damian definitely d o e s make it a little awkward for you and his mom to do the deed. Especially when he confesses his feelings towards you with Talia. But if anything she’ll prolly manipulate him and make that a reason on why he should abandon the batfam. become the leader of the loa and all that. because real family are there for each other. real family can share.)

[arkangelo-7]

Same energy

single dad ra’s al ghul they could never make me hate you

[1-8oo-wtfbro]

[too-much-tma-stuff]

Crack idea Danny using the Lazarus pit ends up finding about Nanda Parbat and Ra al Ghul deciding to use his ghost King abilities decides that he's charging Ra al Ghul rent for the use of the Lazarus pits by living with him

He was kicked out by the Phantom parents at 15 for being a half gifts and the de-age half ghost Ellie and Danny needs a place that's safe for them

So Danny becomes a League of assassins definitely a not human roommate sometimes it's like Danny's not even there but out of nowhere you can just catch a pair of blue or green glowing guys standing in the room wouldn't even tiny your pair of green eyes in bundled up in Danny's arms

Or sometimes Danny will just come out of nowhere and hand Ra al Ghul Ellie in a baby sling and then in front of everyone can open a portal to the internet realm because he has something to go do as their King and he can't take Ellie

Danny stayed there until he was 19 during all this time he was a family like figure to Damien and the one that helped Jason with his brain deadness after getting up Lazarus pits

Jason and Danny also someone had a little bit of something going on but never were able to pursue it as Danny terrifies Ra al Ghul even if the immortal assassin will never admit it so he does not let them get into the business of the legal a lot

Danny also be using them like free babysitters hey Talia you're free hope my daughter real quick I got to go hunt some man named John Constantine down for his soul contracts don't hurt her

The Bat Family does not understand that Danny is terrifying because Danny to them act like a normal 19-year-old teenager a daughter that he had a young age while Damian and just knows Danny has his grandfather terrified of him

I hope you like my stupid crack idea of Danny just being terrifying to the League of assassins

I like the headcannon that even though Ra's is a piece of shit he's actually pretty good with/likes babies, and I think that's the only way Danny would hand Ellie to him. But I think this is funny! The assassins don't really know who Danny is and rumours abound because no one else treats him like that, just walks in hands him a baby and leaves. They even wonder if that's Ra's kid or something but if anyone ever asks Danny he reacts in such violent disgust that oookay clearly not! So grand child??? Something???

Ra's won't talk about it because he's embarrassed and also thinks it's probably best not to draw attention to this and just go for the ~mysterious vibe~

Danny's there to see Jason crazed and glowing dragging himself out of the pit and he's twirling his hair around a finger like "Omg being unhinged and creepy all by yourself handsome?!"

When Jason's ready to leave Danny's like "Hell no! You're not leaving without me, my kid, and your kid brother >:( If you try I'll drag you back into hell myself!"

"Well shit. I guess I'm a family man/crime lord now?" says Jason