#tabini

[fansideblogtocjcherryth]

Here I made some Transparent png of the foreigner book covers if any one needs them. probably part 1 of something 1/?

[fansideblogtocjcherryth]

I went through my blog to not only try to fix my tagging system but to also find a post by jmtorres on tumblr that may explain that last part that you felt like talking about. there is probably a high chance, atleast to a theory/headcanon to me, that the atevi view Bren with Tabini in a way that is kind of to how people in the Star Track Fandom Ship Jim Kirk and Spock, you know. the ship with a "normal person" and a "emotionless/ no romantic feelings" to us but to atevi bren is Spock and Tabini is Jim Kirk.

““I still like you, damn you. You don’t shake one of us [humans], you don’t fling our liking away because your duty says otherwise, you can’t get rid of us when we like you, Banichi, you’re stuck with me, so make the best of it.” There wasn’t a clear translation for like. It meant a preference for salad greens or iced drinks. But love was worse. Breath failed him. Self-control did. He flung it all out. “Banichi, I’d walk a thousand miles to have a kind word from you. I’d give you the shirt from my back if you needed it; if you were in trouble, I’d carry you that thousand miles. What do you call that? Foolish?” “That would be very difficult for you.” “So is liking atevi.” That got out before he censored it. “Don’t joke.” “I’m not joking. God, I’m not joking. We [humans] have to like somebody, we’re bound to like somebody, or we die, Banich, we outright die. Like, like, like–get off the damned word, Banichi. I cross that trench every day. Can’t you cross it once? Can’t you cross to where I am, just once, to know what I think?” “I’m not a dinner-course!””

—

“Foreigner,” C.J. Cherryh (via rottenappleheart)

Wendybird017′s tags on point as always -   #bren cameron#my garbage son#foreigner series#atevi#banichi my salad#this poor child#eventually he just goes up and turns into an emotionally constipated bastard

He really does though, and I think that’s why I can’t get enough of the first four books, because I love smol!angry!Bren and he does just change a lot.  

Which, ok some of it is the writing and some of it is that he really deep down wishes he were atevi, and some is just that the books span that much time. I feel so strongly about this because he’s 26 in the first book and by Convergence he’s pushing 40 if he hasn’t hit it quite yet. (And that’s in atevi years, my calculations put the atevi planet year at slightly longer than our planet.) 

My husband was 26 when we got married and he just turned 40 this year, so it feels just a little too personal I guess?

But we’re given this arc in the last few books with Cajeiri and his own humans but Tabini and Bren had basically the same relationship to figure out back before the series started and I WANT that, very much. I need to see a young Tabini, almost as reckless as Cajeiri, and just as stubborn, deciding that he’s going to try and acquire a human for real, and damn anyone who says he’s not aiji enough to win man’chi from a human.

And baby Bren who, against his better judgement, against EVERYTHING HE WAS TAUGHT AT UNIVERSITY just can’t HELP himself but feel something for this smart, funny guy.

 (And see unsurprisingly with this description when I try to write it, it always turns Tabini into the Silent Hero, and Bren into the Innocent Maiden with a Pure Heart and Ilisidi is the Disapproving Parent, and it becomes this weird romance novel trope that I can’t quite come to terms with.)

[straightmenobsession]

IFBB Pro Mazaher Tabini.

“Life is like a parable.”

[derinthescarletpescatarian]

Tabini: You're doing great. 10/10 no notes. Everyone's happy with you, just finish the job and don't worry about me, other people are keeping me posted. I'll back you in whatever you need.

Bren: ... ah, I must be misunderstanding this letter. Is this a trap?

[kikimaymay]

One of the most fascinating issues with the Foreigner series by CJ Cherry is that the alien race/atevi are an autocratic* civilization, but it's because of actual biological impulses that function as a pyramid of sorts.

Despite the (maybe genetic? Definite social conditioning) "follow the leader" aspect of the culture, with a large monarchy/serfdom allegory, Tabini is only in power because he gives the larger population/commoners reason for him to actually stay in power. If the general population hated Tabini, he'd be gone in a heartbeat.

Anyway, I've got a lot of feelings lately about this series and life in general, and re-reading and seeing the sheer stress that Bren goes though like.. almost every day? The man just needs to go fishing a lot more. And maybe fuck Jago a lot more too.

[queerian]

on Man'chi in foreigner

Warning! Spoilers for Foreigner (book 1) and Defender (book 5).

Tabini places extremely valuable players (or pivotal moments) in extremely risky situations, expecting those who feel man’chi to him to fulfill their duty to the best of their abilities. It's the same thing when there’s a dangerous situation brewing and Bren says “I have every confidence in you, nadiin” to his staff.

When you feel man'chi, “not only do I trust your loyalty but I trust your understanding and your skills and that despite all the risks and dangers you will be able to rise above it and achieve what is necessary” just goes unsaid.

When Tabini or Ilisidi don't give him what he feels is crucial information, or take actions without informing or warning him, he interprets that as them not trusting him but it actually means they trust him more!

They trust him to operate independently of instruction (and in some cases trust him to know better than they do!), they trust him to intuit the needs of his aijin and carry out what is necessary.

This is why Tabini sends Bren to Malguri in Foreigner and essentially invites/challenges Ilisidi to test Bren, knowing or trusting that Bren will not break or do the wrong thing.

This is why in Defender Tabini sends Ilisidi and Cajeiri up to go on the ship to go on the mission Reunion, knowing how valuable they both are to him and the whole aishiditat, but trusting in Bren's man’chi to him and Ilisidi, and trusting that the man’chi of the ship captains and crew to each other, all will ensure a felicitous outcome. As long as there is the treaty, Tabini can trust that all parties adhering to the treaty will maintain their common interests.

Man’chi is basically a biological assurance of stability and trust that allows atevi to operate under high levels of risk, stress, and uncertainty. As long as man'chi is clear, they know more or less what the involved parties can or will do, and this allows them to take action easily. It comes back to this so often in the series - man'chi allows you to predict fairly well how someone will act under pressure.

Man'chi is not a choice for atevi, it's biological. If they fail at something, it's either because they lack the ability/skill to accomplish the intended goal, or there is a conflict of man'chi. So if an atevi folds under pressure, they lose their value to their lord because they are not reliable - either in terms of skill or man'chi.

And this is why, in the first trilogy, Bren’s staff is initially so perplexed by his constant need for information, because they see it as him lacking confidence in them - their skills and man’chi.

As Bren says to Yolanda in Defender: "Don’t back down from Tabini’s baiting you. If he thinks you'll fold rather than argue with him, you’ll be out of his confidence in a heartbeat.” To me, this is a way riskier cultural mixup than “friend” that Bren keeps harping on about.

[not-a-space-alien]

Hi , I have a question.

So do you have any ideas for ship fiction situations based around bren × his ashid , Bren x tabini and/or bren x ilisidi.

You see I was planing on making a fiction for you but I do not have a lot of ideas.

The only idea is this very nsft wet dream or just romantic dreams fiction of bren having dreams around tabini , tano , algini , jago , and banichi separately.

Any better ideas then the one I got?

OH FOREIGNER FANDOM OUT OF LEFT FIELD!! :D

I think those are great ideas! :D

Personally, I love scenes with Bren x Jago, since there's a line in one of the books about it being awkward due to their size difference 😳 I also uhh love the idea of Bren x his entire ashaid just in a big pile because they can 😳😳 👉👈

if you're writing it specifically for ME (that's great ♥) Let's just say I uhhhh don't mind nsft 👀 not in the slightest

I don't have any good ideas though, unfortunately xD

[marquise-justine-de-sade]

Lei è così...

Testarda, dolce, sensibile.

È tanta, "troppo”...

Basta poco per farla contenta,

ma allo stesso modo,

basta ancora meno per ferirla.

È lunatica, ”complicata”, emotiva.

Mette il cuore in tutto quello che fa.

Si lascia trasportare da ciò che “sente” dentro, giusto o sbagliato che sia, non ha importanza.

Può dare “tutto”.

Ma se viene ferita,

non ci pensa un attimo a “riprenderselo”.

Non è facile “viverla”,

lo sa bene,

ma se si “abbatte il muro”,

è in grado di dare amore oltre ogni limite.

Lei è così, è fatta di cuore,

ma ciò non significa

che non sia in grado

di essere anche tempesta.

Mariangela Tabini

Solo io

[aldieb]

it’s making me crazy that deliverer has the same structure as foreigner but mirrored + with cajeiri in bren’s role (swapping in bren for tabini and thus making him cajeiri’s father figure… aww). like it’s not a particularly sophisticated feat (the actually impressive part is that the whole arc of books 1 through 9 follows the same plot as 1 as well—i’m nursing a confusing notes app bulleted list on this, which i want to make into something somewhat coherent) but it does really get you when an author goes “wow it’s so fucked up that this happened to a grown man. what if it also happened to an elementary schooler?”

[sylvanauctor]

“What The Report Failed to Mention”

During after dinner brandy on Phoenix, Ilisidi-aiji tells her paidhi something that even Tabini has no need to know.

[canesenzafissadimora]

Fin dove arrivai lo sa solo il mio cuore...

Mariangela Tabini

[fansideblogtocjcherryth]

fuck it i am putting my notes on archive of our own.

[mancino]

Non è facile stare con una donna dal carattere forte, non è da tutti, molti si stancano e vanno via, in pochi sono forti abbastanza.

Già perché stare con una donna forte devi essere altrettanto forte.

Per stare con una donna intelligente devi essere altrettanto intelligente, è la legge della natura. Una donna intelligente non può stare con un uomo stupido , non ne sentirebbe l'attrazione, perché dopo l'aspetto fisico deve essere stuzzicata mentalmente, devi saperla tenere una donna, devi in un certo senso essere sempre in competizione con lei,

Una sfida a chi è più forte, a chi è più intelligente, una sorta di stuzzicarsi a vicenda, sbranarsi, due persone che stanno insieme devono saper fare anche questo, competere.

Mariangela Tabini

[derinthescarletpescatarian]

Tabini to Bren whenever absolutely anything happens

[biagiodiggi]

E sono fatte così alcune donne...prima di portarle a letto devi faticare...e sai perché?

Loro hanno tutto collegato...a qualcosa di più serio secondo me...forse perché mi ci riconosco. Bisogna cercare di capirle perché vogliono che tu le veda non perché sono gnocche...vogliono solo constatare sei hai capito che devi partire dal cervello...organo decisamente decisivo.

Biagio D.G. & Mariangela Tabini

[queerian]

I firmly believe that Bren has potential chemistry with Banichi, Tabini, and Jace

How many times is Bren gonna think about or tell someone how much he *needs* Jace eh