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35: Supreme Dicks // The Emotional Plague
The Emotional Plague Supreme Dicks 1996, Homestead (Bandcamp)
In the ‘80s it became a trope of punkier/grungier alternative bands to include little gobs of noisy tape experiment gunk on their releases, often as a b-side or hidden track. By the ‘90s there was a whole loose subgenre of artists that could be summarized as “if Dinosaur Jr.’s ‘Poledo’ grew limbs and became a band”—Dino alum Lou Barlow’s Sebadoh being the most obvious outcome, but Amherst, MA’s Supreme Dicks maybe the purest. Early conceptions of post-rock as a genre had an apocalyptic undercurrent: what would music sound like a century after rock’s disappearance, when the hairless blind mole children crawl out of the fallout shelters and discover a half-eaten guitar?
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Supreme Dicks’ The Emotional Plague sounds like a primal soup of life. Protozoan cells of folk, free jazz, noise rock, minimalist chamber music, etc. mill around, eating and interbreeding. Occasionally enough of them stick together for something burly and song-like to lurch from the bog and stagger around for a few minutes before crumbling back into the pool. Yet even in the formless stretches afterward, the texture is fascinating, blobby with saxophone skronk and unplaceable cries reminiscent of bleating lambs. When something familiar emerges it feels like a remnant of the old world being rediscovered, like the resplendent exotica of “Along a Bearded Glade.”
Sprawling movements like “Porridge for the Calydonian Bear” and “Siberian Penal Colony (Ode To Joel Stanley)” push a certain version of dreamy post-hardcore past anything recorded by Slint or Unwound, and nearly 30 years later The Emotional Plague feels like a landmark. While there are certainly some passages that begin to grate, I often find myself with Dicks on the brain (ugh, fuckin kill me).
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#supreme dicks#post hardcore#experimental rock#jagjaguwar#psychedelic rock#amherst#vinyl record#music review#working man's dick#'90s music
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“ Blue Elephant”, Supreme Dicks
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jason might be rubbing off on him
Part 1
#bruce in his head: that can’t be good#all that and they still forgot dick’s crunchwrap supreme#rodrick rules#batman#dc robin#dc fanart#dc comics#art#bat family#jason todd#batfam#red hood#robin#damian wayne robin#damian wayne#damian al ghul#fan comic#artists on tumblr#mini comic#bruce wayne#dc red hood
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do you ever think abt all the things that are already wrong w ur body in ur twenties and just think wow. i am going to be one very fucked up old person
#one supremely fucked up knee. regular back pain. one messed up shoulder. one messed up hip. stiff ass ankles. bad eyes and asthma#and im only 24! i dont even think my body will be able to hold itself together by the time i hit 50#dick punches
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I firmly believe every one of the bats uses Bruce's shirts for pajamas
he never notices them going missing because why would he? and they are all perfectly big and warm and smell nice....
Maybe far, far in the future when all the bats are having some sort of sleepover in the manor he looks around when everyones changed into their jammies and thinks about how he had a shirt just like that.
#alfred knows and just lets it happen#tim loves using his tshirts for oversized skater fashion and sometimes the press realizes hes wearing a shirt bruce wore#they are probs the perfect shirts to wear with only boxers on tbh supreme comfort#batman#jason todd#dc universe#dc comics#dcu#batfam#dick grayson#batfamily#tim drake#bruce wayne
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I know logically that the Batfamily won’t turn evil, but if they did, holy shit. The world’s fucked.
#they’ve got so many contingency plans that’s it’d be damn hard to out-smart them#their stockpile of kryptonite would take out the supers#the amazons/magic-users/lanterns would be the biggest threat#they’d put up a good fight but there’s a chance they get they’re asses kicked#but who knows maybe they’d be great supreme overlords#bruce wayne#dick grayson#jason todd#tim drake#damian wayne#stephanie brown#cassandra cain#duke thomas#dc#dc comics#batman#batfamily#justice league#batfamily headcannons
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I think the funniest thing about how the Fandom perceives Tim (especially obnoxious Tim fans) is that he is was deeply hurt by the actions Jason, Damian, and Dick have done to him, but lowkey that’s just the fandom projecting
Tim lowkey did not give a fuck. Maybe a little at first, but he definitely does not hold a grudge against any of them.
#Tim Drake#unhinged tim drake#like will Tim eternally hate you if you take a sip from his Soda? yes#but attempted murder… he can get over that#Damian and Jason were just having a really bad time#(looks at that one panel where Tim forgives Jason for being an asshole supreme)#and he can admit that Dick was under a lot of stress during the time Bruce was lost in the time stream#angst is fun though#so I don’t BLAME Tim fans for it#just sometimes it’s annoying because Dick is a really good older brother and doesn’t deserve the hate for handing off a mantle he created#and Damian was a child who only grew up knowing that violence was the only way you can earn your place#and it’s shown in multiple panels that Tim understands that#Tim was literally snarking while Jason beat him up at Titans Tower#(honestly that was most accurate sibling portrayal in media… so…)#I say that as a younger sibling who has had so many injuries from my sister beating the crap outa me#and my younger brother emotionally decimates me on a daily basis#really#certain Tim fans just make him a wimp
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Peter Parker from my (now named) fic WIP “Help Me, I don’t feel like myself anymore.”!
A Marvel/DC fic where Peter, unfortunately, ends up in Gotham after some magic shenanigans and finds that not only does he also not exist here but Richard Parker’s still alive and not named Parker and Uncle Ben’s gone white at 20 and has a whole lot more rage than he’s ever remembered the man having.
It’s not a good time for any of them.
#update#marvel#peter parker#spiderman in dc is just adoption bait supreme#dc comics#dick grayson#artwork#spiderman#marvel/dc
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Data is one of the rare times the hot robot being programmed with sex sub routines and built anatomically correct and shit doesn’t have Unfortunate Implications about like, his planned usage or whatever.
Like you know it’s both bc Noonien Soong is an unhinged freak who wanted this guy to be able to do Literally Everything He Could Think Of and Do It Well because he’s a hyper perfectionist and also because he’s a raging narcissist and no android with his face wasn’t gonna be an s tier lover. His pride just wouldn’t allow Data (and Lore) to not be as accurate a simulacrum of humans as possible or anything but super mega perfect at everything. And honestly it’s why I like him so much he’s a miserable little man <3
#data soong#lore soong#noonien soong#dr soong said ‘I’m making my boys fuck supremely nasty bc that will reflect back on ME’ which is unhinged thinking#but if anyone would think like that it’s him#tfw ur so egotistical u model ur android sons after u in ur physical prime and make their dick game insane
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realized in all my years of being an ace attorneyer i have literally never drawn gummy. tf have i been doing with my life.
#dick gumshoe#ace attorney#phoenix wright ace attorney#im so sorry for disrespecting u king#drawing big square men is my THING#im a failure#goofus supreme
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Hi hi! I'm new to dol fandom so I would like to ask you, is harper a romasible character or not? I've seen some people said he's not but kinda unsure..... Will be grateful if you enlighten me please!
hiiii!! sad news but harper is not a romanceable character 😔 that doesnt stop me from being insane about him and scrambling for any scraps of harper content though
hope you have fun with dol!!
#ask#anon#degrees of lewdity#ive gotten back into dol recently too#like actually played the damn game lol#impressions:#i know its partially my fault for neglecting robin but damn. the only time i see them now is whwn they crawl into pc’s bed from trauma 😭#whitney is harder to romance than i remember wtf.#wren…………………………#who allowed them to be like that#remy praising my cow pc so much its like. so when are you coming to rail me yourself coward#OH AND#I CANT FUCK BAILEY. HE JUST WONT PULL HIS DICK OUT#jordan better watch out cause baileys the celibate supreme apparently
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i’m missing ironstrange when all the fics were post infinity war or endgame fix it fics and i got tumblr for them and there was the tony stark dick post that broke my dash… the supreme family
#infinity war#ironstrange#irondad and spiderson#tony stark dick post#tony stark#stephen strange#peter parker#post infinity war#endgame fix it#supreme family
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Teen Titans Chronology
Era 1: Superhero Names & Funky Nicknames
The Brave and the Bold (1955) #54 The Brave and the Bold (1955) #60 Showcase #59 Teen Titans (1966) #1-20 The Brave and the Bold (1955) #83 Teen Titans (1966) #21-22
This is the peak silly era. Goofy nicknames, (mostly) goofy one-off villains, occasional team-up, etc. As far as I'm aware, none of their real names are ever mentioned within their own title and it's just their superhero names.
It starts with Robin, Kid Flash, Aqualad (in the first Brave and Bold), with Wonder Girl being the first addition when they are officially first called the Teen Titans (in the second Brave and Bold), so I'm counting the Fab Foursome (Cool Quartet? Fantabulous Foursome?) of them as the starting point. They're a team up to #18 with occasional guests from Speedy (#4 - with notes that there were an "avalanche of mail" asking for his inclusion, #11), Beast Boy (#6 - rejected by the Teen Titans and apparently previously the Doom Patrol for not having a guardian's permission slip, interesting note that he already had movie offers here), and Starfire (#18 - definitely not who you're thinking of and instead a Russian boy).
Issue #19 is when they become "Fab-Four-Sometime Five" where Roy joins and Garth takes a break, so the main four changed. There are then two more team ups with Jericho (#20 - also not who you're thinking of but some boy name Joshua) and with Hawk and Dove (#21).
I think only Mad Mod became a long-term villain (?) but the list includes: Mr Twister, the Astounding Separated Man, Beast-God of Xochatan, Akkuru, Ding Dong Daddy Dowd (Demon Dragster), Diablo, The Ant (less villain and more blackmailed by Mr Krask), Mr Baltzer, Mad Mod, Honey Bun (and a spy Karl Larner), Captain Tiger, The Scorcher, The Gargoyle (who makes a reappearance in #35), Captain Rumble, The Dimensional Caper (from Dimension X), Le Blanc, Punch (Sylvester Sepastopol), Fat Cat.
Era 2: Real Names, New Teammates, Mr Jupiter, and Solo Storylines
Teen Titans (1966) #22-31 The Brave and the Bold (1955) #94 Teen Titans (1966) #32-34 World's Finest Comics #205 Teen Titans (1966) #35-39 The Brave and the Bold (1955) #102 Teen Titans (1966) #40-43
This part of the story starts to have a bit more personality and it is a lot more character-driven as opposed to (short) plot-driven stories. Their real names are finally used and they're shown to hangout as civilians and not just superheroes.
This starts at the end of #22 when Donna Troy is given a name, a backstory (one of many), a new apartment, a roommate Sharon, and a makeover. Dick and Wally was previously named in #83 of The Brave and the Bold, but Roy gets named in #24. In a way, this makes Donna feel very much like the living center of the Titans for me, her development begins with the Titans and she's intrinsically tied to it very personally (and this also feels reflected in how Garth views Donna as the "TITANS FOREVER" among all of them). After all, at this point, there's no separate comics she is in unlike the other 4 main titans. She is also the only single character that appears in every single comic with no exception (other than the very first, but they weren't known as Teen Titans then either).
There aren't so much guests as much as two new permanent members - Lilith who joins right before Mr Jupiter comes into the picture in #25 and Mal who joins right after in #26. During this time, 6 of them are mostly all there and are led and trained by Mr Jupiter. The longest disappearance is when Dick goes to college (from #25-32 except for a single appearance in #28) and occasional disappearance when they stay behind to take care of Mr Jupiter's lab (sometimes it is unexplained but I chalk most disappearance up to this). From #26 onwards, all but 6 issues are not related to Mr Jupiter (#28-29 led by Garth, #31 led by Wally, #34 and #42 led by Donna, and #43). This era also seems to establish Wally (and Donna) as de-facto leader when Dick is not around.
All other guests are really more part-time members such as Hank and Don who do their summer stint from #25-#30, Gnarrk who first appears in #32-33 and comes back in #39, and Garth who appears in #28-29 and #40.
For the first time (as far as I'm aware), a known villain gets brought into the story - Ocean Master (Orm) and an alien leader Mofo in #28-29 with Garth going after him. This part also established the easy-to-get-into-fights, easy-to-get-out-of-fights (among themselves) dynamics that I associate with the Titans. They start to place more importance on their insecurities and friendship.
There are also 2 main "friends get brainwashed" (for extended period) type storyline during this period of time (which later seems to become quite commonplace among the Titans): once with Donna (#34 which Wally doesn't see) and once with Garth (#40).
This is also the only era which has quite a lot of additional separate solo storylines. It start with Donna if you count "The Origin of Wonder Girl" in #22 (although it's kind of more like an additional story where everyone appears), and then Wally and Garth (with Tula) in #30. Garth (#30, #35, #36, #38) and Lilith (#36, #38, #41, #43) have the most with 4 each, Roy (#35, #38) and Hank&Don (#31, #39) have two each, and Mal (#35) and Dick (#36) have one each (like Donna and Wally). Superboy (young Clark) actually also has two - one with Dick (#36) and one with young Ollie (#37) that doesn't even have any of the Titans in it.
Crucially, contrary to how modern comics love to portray Batman and Robin's view on the Teen Titans, Batman actually fully supports the Teen Titans in the original and has never been shown to do otherwise almost at all. In fact, he is the one with the most team-ups with the Teen Titans and the team-ups almost always happen because he needs helps "relating to the teens" and he specifically calls on them, with full respect for them (even purposely allowing Wally and Donna to punch him real hard that one time to solidify their cover). The only mentor who does show disapproval is actually Aquaman (in Era 3), who does so because Garth gets mysteriously sick which he blames on the Teen Titans (sort of half-correctly).
Interestingly, up to this point there are actually more team appearances of what I'm calling Alternative 5 or Alt5 (Wally, Donna, Roy, Lilith Mal) than of Fab5 (Dick, Wally, Donna, Garth, Roy). In fact, up to this point there were 12 appearances of Alt5 over 5 appearances of Fab5. This is mostly because Roy and Garth actually have very little team-ups because Roy became a permanent basically the same time that Garth stopped being a permanent member.
Titans Villains (other than Ocean Master hat one time) in this era: Hell's Hawks, Harry Tout, Dr Pauling, Councilman Buckminster (Santa Claus), Demoness possessing Magda Drachwyck (Miss Wickersham), Calibano Della Loggia (x2), Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, Black Earl of Moray, Captain Barstow's Phantom, Lord Beetle
Era 3: When Fab5 was Defined, More Teammates, Teen Titans West, and Splitting Up
Teen Titans (1966) #44-53 The Brave and the Bold (1955) #149
There was a more than 3 years gap from the last issue #43 in February 1973 to issue #44 in November 1976 which translated to a 2 year in-comic hiatus of the Teen Titans. There's also a change of regular writer from (mostly) Bob Haney to Bob Rozakis. All this culminated in a change in tone of the characters being a bit more aggressive and antagonistic towards each other, especially with Roy (note: Snowbirds Don't Fly happened in 1971 so it's not because that occurred in between the break since it actually happened before the break). They fight a lot more this era and the storylines are longer and bleed more into one another.
Another obvious change is that Wally is shown to be way more into Donna than before (in his thoughts especially) instead of their more casual flirting. Wally does eventually confess to Donna who rejects him in this era. The other "official" relationships are Mal/Karen and Lilith/Gnarrk (funnily because Mal/Lilith was a thing for a bit).
In story, Mr Jupiter decides to close shop (unknown reason) and so they broke up, with Mal taking care of the labs and the rest pursuing their individual careers instead as they agreed upon (but Mal is unhappy about). This... doesn't really make sense because I'm not sure what "individual career" Donna has, but never mind.
Lilith is no longer in the main team (later explained that she settled in the West Coast with Gnarrk which is very contradictory to her last statement in #43 that the Teen Titans is her family). Garth comes back from #45 when he is mysteriously summoned by Mal's horn and it's like he never left. He wants to resign in #51 because his insecurities making him physically sick, but he agrees to finish the mission and they all ended up disbanding anyway. Karen appears first in #45 as Mal's girlfriend and joins as Bumblebee in #49, but Duela joins the team first in #46. Because of these lineup changes, Fab5 appearances started to catch up to Alt5 until eventually Alt5 (15 appearances) just barely edges out Fab5 (13 appearances). Interestingly, Dick-Wally-Donna-Roy-Mal actually end up appearing most (17 appearances).
They (it's honestly mostly Dick, Wally, and Donna) discuss the idea of a new headquarters first suggested by Donna in #45 (like I said, she's very much the living centre of the Titans). Dick makes the decision (because he is Leader-Man and Bruce is funding it) to have their headquarters as a restaurant front, Gabriel's Horn (named after Mal's horn given by the angel Gabriel in #45), run by Mal and Roy (the jobless duo apparently) in #46 and they set it up in #49. Mal and Roy also started forming the rock band The Great Frog (a job!) in #45 which plays in their restaurant.
Teen Titans West first meet up and is established in #50 with some familiar faces (Gar, Hank, Don, Lilith, Gnarrk) and some complete newbies (Bette, Ch'al) to the roster. Issues #51 and #52 have the East and West team up, resulting in basically every Titans ever joining with the exception of Tula (but then again, at this point she only appeared in Garth solo story and never in the main storyline). At the end of which, they have a big feast (sponsored by Dick) and decided to part ways to improve and work towards eventually becoming the future Justice League (as they were always meant to).
The final story #53 establishes their origin and formation story which includes Roy, but had Roy basically saying he wanted to be involved only whenever he wanted and not permanently (ahem commitment issues), establishing Fab5 as the clear founders of the Teen Titans in the last issue.
There is a third "friends get brainwashed/used" (for extended period) type storyline with Lilith (#50-52), except she's not evil, but her powers are manipulated for evil. With Duela, there is also the first instance of villain's children in the Titans (in future there is Joey and Rose most prominently), setting up the stage for Titans raising villain's children. They actually brought Two-Face in to visit Duela at least once (right after a crime too???) which is... interesting?
This era has many more appearances of known villains including Dr Light, The Fiddler, Two-Face, and Mr Esper (Captain Calamity). The final issue is where Antithesis first appear (he is a recurring villain or at least comes back in future issues), and the remaining unimportant ones are: The Wreckers, Flamesplasher (x2), Sizematic (x2), Darklight (x2), and Rocket Rollers led by Brian the Brain.
Finally, there are some unexplained mysteries. Where the hell did Mal's horn go since it went missing in #49? Who is the blonde "Little Queen" that Garth meets from #36 (because I don't think it's Nirka McDuff from #40)? Who are Lilith's parents? What's up with Mr Jupiter? Is he Donna's dad (#35)? Do they ever make use of the possibly haunted mansion and fortune they inherited in #43? Why did Mr Jupiter not bother to make Roy, Wally, and Lilith face their fears (#38)? Does he think redheads have no fears? Are we going to address the fact that Lilith is apparently Juliet reborn (#35-36) and decided to give up Romeo (who she was very enamored by for a while) for Gnarrk?
To be continued~
Some Statistics (For Fun)
Most to least appearances, we have:
Donna (60) - only missing from the very first story before they were coined the Teen Titans
Wally (58) - missing from 3 stories all during Mr Jupiter era (twice unknown reasons and once because he is watching the lab)
Dick (54) - missing from 6 issues for his college
Roy (41)
Garth (37)
Mal (28)
Lilith (22)
Mr Jupiter (12) - not a Titan but I was curious so I counted him
Hank and Don (11)
Karen and Duela (8)
Gnarrk (5)
Gar (4)
Bette and Ch'al (3)
Tula (1)
Most to least trio appearances (within Fab5):
Dick-Wally-Donna (50)
Wally-Donna-Roy (38) - the love triangle lmao
Dick-Donna-Roy (33)
Dick/Donna-Wally-Garth (32)
Dick-Donna-Garth / Dick-Wally-Roy trio (31) - DWDG and DWDR limiting factor
Wally/Donna-Garth-Roy (14) - Roy/Wally-Donna-Mal/Lilith have more than this (25, 23, 19, 18)
Dick-Garth-Roy (13) - Fab5 limiting factor
For quartets, Dick-Wally-Donna-Garth (DWDG) quartet (31) ends up exactly equal to Dick-Wally-Donna-Roy (DWDR) quartet (31).
Special note that because of Lilith separation in Era 3, even though Garth is brought back, the Rebirth "OG" line up (Fab 5 + Lilith) actually only has 3 appearances together. On the other hand, Alt 5 + Dick have 9 appearances (but no Garth). World's Finest line up (Fab5 + Karen) have 7 appearances but only 4 of which Karen is actually Bumblebee and fighting with them, while the Silver Age Final line up (Fab5 + Mal) has the most with 10 appearances.
Ultimately, Lilith does still make more sense to me than Karen to balance the team with more girls, because she definitely was there earlier, had more appearance than Karen, and also doesn't have the additional association of joining because of Mal since she predates Mal. That said, the girl with the most Fab5 teamup might actually be Duela who also has 7 appearances with Fab5, all of which she is on their side (although half their issue was trust which wouldn't make so much sense if she was with them from the beginning). The person with most Fab5 teamup is unquestionably Mal though (10). It's curious to see what is more "valid" but my personal opinion is that there is no point in making a Fab6 just let leave it be and acknowledge it as product of its time.
If you want to have a look at the data out of curiosity, it's here.
#teen titans#dick grayson#wally west#donna troy#garth of shayeris#roy harper#garfield logan#hank hall#don hall#lilith clay#mal duncan#karen beecher#duela dent#john gnarrk#bette kane#ch'al andar#tula of atlantis#robin#kid flash#wonder girl#aqualad#speedy#mypost#dc thoughts#uhhh donna and wally both having more appearances than dick somewhat surprised me#i started tracking bcos i got curious whether ultimately someone else will dethrone dick with more titans appearance#which i NEVER expect to be the case especially right from the start but i actually think donna will reign titans supreme#i think new (teen) titans will be when roy dethrones wally but will he dethrone dick? possibly!#i didn't bother with pairs comparison cos there's SO many BUT its def donna&wally > dick&donna > dick&wally#also hank complains that they never called him back after re-forming the titans which is never explained but you could put on robin lmao
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hey. don’t cry. knightfall nightwing figure, okay?
bonus ponytail
#he’s soooo important#he has little teal highlights in his hair too#his 😏 face is supreme to me#dick grayson#what’s bro yappin about#dc
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dick grayson + jason todd fanart
when you and your brother are two halves of a whole idiot
#alt version included too because idk which one i like better#its being supremely normal abou dick grayson hours#nightwing#dc#dick grayson#jason todd#red hood#fanart
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