#such a fucking good saga man.
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dark-elf-writes · 10 months ago
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Athena in My Goodbye: You need to learn to kill your heart and do what needs to be done
Athena checking back on Ody post Thunder Bringer and seeing him sitting there like:
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steamclouds · 2 months ago
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Neverwinter Saga is the best
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aspiring-wildfire · 3 months ago
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the epic score is very fun in a lot of ways and odysseus murdering all the suitors at the end is delightfully chilling and very cathartic but i gotta say thinking abt odysseus’s perspective on that whole scene really makes me laugh like. you have been away from home for 20 years fighting first the biggest war in mythohistory and then what really seems like every fucking thing that could try to kill you in the entire adriatic sea. literally all your friends are dead and you just beat the shit out of an actual god to get back to the only two people in the world who matter to you anymore. and then you finally get back to your house after 20 FUCKING YEARS and it’s trashed bc a fucking frathouse worth of nepo babies who were like ten last time you saw them moved in while you were gone, bullied your family for well over a decade, and are currently planning how they’re gonna murder your son and assault your wife. no wonder he’s fuckin pissed
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shannonsketches · 1 year ago
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Why is the anime so weird, it's not even the same series dude?? It's like,
Anime:
GOKU: I have a great idea to bring peace to the universe, and my leadership and compassion alone will unite us all. I have No Flaws and am A True Relatable Everyman :)
VEGETA: NO! I AM THE BEST AND I WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS UNTIL I AM RECOGNIZED AS SUCH!!!!
Manga:
GOKU: Vegeta what's cornmeal made of? I know it's what the corn eats, but what's it made of? VEGETA: Hey Kakarot let's play the quiet game until one of us dies.
#dbtag#I do not understand this writing it's so bad aklsdlkasjd#Toei wants Goku to be Clark Kent SO bad and he SO isn't lmao#they're so good and dumb and rounded and complex in the manga what is the anime so afraid of#Toriyama said 'no no this man is a detached faux-immortal who has a dear pure heart but he's childlike and selfish even though he's kind'#and toei went 'got it goku's never done anything wrong ever in his life'#toriyama said 'Vegeta's gone through a lot and he's finally settling into his more mature leadership role with the confidence he's earned'#and toei said 'got it vegeta has the confidence of a high school bully except now he can interact with his family as a comedy bit'#girl hWHAT#Toei trying to group Goku and Vegeta as two people who would rather train than be with their families and Toriyama said NO Vegeta wants#to be HOME this is the first time in years that he's HAD ONE and it makes him HAPPY to be with his wife and children!!#Vegeta trains so that he can protect the things he doesn't want to lose again and Goku trains because it's the thing that makes him happies#They are NOT the same lmao And yeah Vegeta still wants to beat Goku but he also knows that Gohan could dogwalk both of them if he wanted#He also knows Trunks and Goten are going to surpass them it's not about being the best anymore he's past that he just wants to Not Need Gok#He just doesn't want to have to rely on Goku to save the day he wants to be Enough on his own he just wants to know he can be#because every time it's mattered he WASN'T and people he loved were lost to his inability to protect them and he carries that#Like Whis diagnosed him with anxiety and cptsd out in the open and Beerus said he was self-centered for feeling guilt#+ he lowkey enjoys the rivalry it keeps him goal-oriented so he can't get complacent and lazy which is what triggered his Buu Saga breakdow#realized how Fucked Up it was that having a home and loving family made him feel like he was failing and went 'wait no I won actually??'#now he's chill as fuck in the manga. cool confident leader.#and sometimes he is childish and dumb with Goku as a treat#you know what rocks about his rivalry with Goku in Super though is that it's Playful. Vegeta is learning how to Play.#You ever seen a shelter dog get introduced to a really playful dog and it takes a minute for the shelter dog to understand it's safe here#And then they're both running around the backyard playing hot potato with one braincell?? That's Goku and Vegeta's relationship#and the way the anime sleeps on that dynamic is so fucking criminal especially when it's literally canon it's in print it's out there#you had the playbook how'd you fumble it this bad#anyway that's my 25+ year blorbo thoughts I love Geets a lot okay#And I love Goku in the manga a lot I'd forgotten that he's actually a great character when Toei's not fucking up his whole vibe
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diskusaurus · 4 months ago
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My biggest issue in Epic the Musical is Odysseus, actually. In this essay, I will....
#good god I hate his (lack of) character arc#if you want me to believe he is a monster then he gotta be consistently!!!! monstrous!!!#but no he is constantly allowed to be a poor pissbaby because portraying him as anything *gasp* morally dubious is bad#idk i don't know anything about the og myths but to me Epic's Odysseus bounces around between moods far too fast but he is always allowed t#reset back into what he has been from the start#none of his angst feels earned at any point because basically all the “bad choices” he's been put into have been outside of his control#except maiming the sirens and sacrificing people to scylla#which feel so out of character at that point to me because the next song he's whining to Zeus to not make him choose between him and his me#bitch if you were willing to sacrifice them two seconds ago why not now#why not have odysseus be the one to suggest sacrificing his men instead of him to show how far he is actually willing to go#but noooo his hand needs to be forced because???#at that point in the musical I feel like he should've been far more cruel so the Ithaca saga will actually feel like something#gives this man some agency to be a fucked up guy by himself. please.#it would've made the poseidon fight even more satisfying. he's capable because he has grown so cold. but no#idk maybe I'm missing the point but ugh#I saw a great comment unrelated to this that was like#“if you aren't comfortable with dark implications in your stories then don't write dark stories”#which I feel like applies here so well#epic the musical critical
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spineless-lobster · 4 months ago
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ALRIGHT LADS MERRY CHRISTMAS ITHACA SAGA’S OUT HERE ARE MY THOUGHTS
(Spoilers under cut of course)
1. The Challenge
PENELOPEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! RAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
NOT HER SEEING THE STORM ODY RELEASED AAAAAAAAAAAAA
I’LL BE HERE BUYING YOU TIMEâ€ŒïžđŸ”„đŸ’Ș
OUGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ANNA ATE THE VOCALS SHE SOUNDS GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!
I KNEW IT!!!!! I KNEW SHE’D BE SINGING “WAITINGGGGG” I KNEW IT IN MY HEART AND SOUL!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Hold Them Down
WHERE IS HE INDEED!!!!!!!!
Oughhhhhhhh ayron’s voice is making me FEEL things rn he makes it so hard to hate antinous 😭 (this sentiment will not be held for long)
“Hold him down ‘til the boy stops shaking” “only the ocean and I will know” okay idk if I’m insane or ovulating or something but like antinous is kind of a freak for telemachus like he’s a little too sensual about killing him idkkkkkkk
Okay okay now it is SUPER easy to hate antinous FUCK when he’s describing what he’ll do to penelope I got chills bro thank god he’s dead 😭
Again I HAVE to reiterate how AMAZING ayron’s vocals are in this song HE GIVES SUCH A GREAT PERFORMANCE!!!!!!!
3. Odysseus
Ohohohohooooo daddy’s home
The electric guitar that’s how you know you’re fucked
“I come back and find my palace desecrated, sacked like Troy” THE GASP I LET OUT AT THE NAME DROP!!!!! SICKENING!!!!!!
When he called telemachus “my boy” what if I started crying
“I. Have had. Enough.” CHILLS!!! CHILLS MOTHERFUCKER CHILLS!!!!!! ASKFJKSJFSKHFKSHDKFH WE HAVE WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS!!!!!!!!
THE ENSEMBLE SINGING “ODYSSEUS” IN POLYPHEMUS’ TUNE!!!!! HE’S THE BOSS NOW BITCHES!!!!!!!
“He’s aiming for the torches!” JUST LIKE SCYLLA!!!!! ODY IS PULLING A SCYLLA!!!!!!!!!
“You don’t think I know my own palace? I built it.” STILL ONE OF THE HARDEST FUCKING LINES IN THE MUSICAL BRO THAT SHIT MAKES ME INSANE!!!!!! INSANEEEEE!!!!!!!!
OPEN ARMS MENTION!!!!!!! We are NOT greeting the world with opens arms lads it’s fucking over. I love the way odysseus says “no” without ANY hesitation, he’s so tired of this song and dance HE’S HAD IT!!!!
TELEMACHUS!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAYAYAYAYAYAYYAY!!!!!!!
I wasn’t expecting him to relish in the bloodshed like he does in the odyssey because that’s just not how he is in the musical but it’s nice that he at least tried to stop them! You go little wolf!
“Where is he?” Being used to refer to both odysseus and telemachus is killing me slowly
“My mercy has long since drowned. It died to bring me home.” AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCK DUDE!!!!! THAT WHOLE SECTION IS A FUCKING BANGER JAY’S DELIVERY IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE I CAN FEEL THE RAGE IN MY BONES MAN THIS SHIT IS SO FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!
The use of “drowned” is SO CLEARLY a reference to poseidon I’m going to throw up
The screaming. All I hear are screams

Fuck dude
 just
 fuuuuckkkkkk
4. I Can’t Help But Wonder
I’ve daydreamed so much about the father-son reunion I’m gonna cry
Ough poor telemachus finally meets his father and he can only worry about if he’s worthy enough to live up to ody’s legacy. And THE FIRST thing ody does is tell him how strong he is FUCK ME DUDE 😭😭😭
“Used to say I’d make the storm clouds cry for you” obvious reference to his whole shebang with poseidon
“Used to say I’d capture the wind and sky for you” WINDBAG MENTION!!!!!!!!
“Held you in my arms prepared to die for you” something something I see you draw your final breath, something something get in the water, something something

“My son, I’m finally home!” THE WAY YOU CAN TELL THEY’RE HUGGING HERE BECAUSE OF THE SWELL OF MUSIC ARE YOU KIDDING ME ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW????? OUGHOGOUOGOGOHOHGHHHHHH
THEY’RE HARMONIZING IM GOING TO SOB IM GOING TO COMMIT CRIMES!!!!!!!!!
ATHENA!!!!!!!!!
My god odysseus learning ruthlessness and athena learning empathy and then uniting and realizing that, while empathy should always come first, unfortunately the world we live in sometimes we have to use ruthlessness in order to survive. And the best we can do is foster future generations that hopefully will not have to go through the same terrible things we have. Ough

“There’s this girl I have to see” I’m like 80% this is referencing that cut song where ody asks athena to help him court penelope
 I hope I’m right because I’ll cry if I am
5. Would You Fall In Love With Me Again
I’m tweaking our rn btw in case you were wondering
The instrumentals are so beautiful I literally CANNOT
The door opening sound effect is so simple but so effective alisjfkshfkshdidjjd
Once again I need to express how much I truly believe the odyssey is a metaphor for ptsd and how it changes a person and the relationships they have
ODYSSEUS SINGING “WAITING” YOU HAVE TO STOP I CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH 😭
Fuck the chorus is so beautiful I don’t even know what to say about it I’m so overwhelmed with emotions. Ough. Just
 odysseus on his knees begging to be loved the way he was, and penelope knowing her answer only if she can really trust the man in front of her. Fuck
 what the hell

The olive bed
 THE OLIVE BED!!!!!!!!!!
Once again I need to emphasize how ETHEREAL anna’s voice is!!!!!!!
THE JUST A MAN INSTRUMENTALS JORGE YOU CANNOT DO THIS TO ME!!!! ITS NOT ALLOWED!!!! YOU CANT FUCKING DO THAT!!!!!!
They’re harmonizing
 they’re singing “I love you” and they’re harmonizing
 I. I need a moment
 I just.. give me a second
 please can I have some time to myself? I just really need to
 die, I think

The final words of epic being “I love you” I am literally going to end my own life ITS SO BEAUTIFUL
This song makes me want to rip out my still-beating heart and eat it bloody and raw. In like a good way!!!
shoutout to the only straight couple ever. I love you odypen

And thus, our journessey comes to an end. It’s over but it’s not over and I think that’s the only comfort I have right now
Now do you’ll excuse me I’m going to go lay face down in a creek forever
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koruga · 4 months ago
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it's so wild that the ithaca saga is just one song, bold artistic choice to just have the challenge five times for your final album.
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aryomengrande · 4 months ago
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gtfo rn...pazuribe did this for me i js know it
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koskela-knights · 9 months ago
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Can we consider that Ilmo Koskela lost basically everyone safe for his niece and nephew that night/morning when Jaakko got killed together with a whole bunch of other Cultists who were likely friends and colleagues 💔
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gumy-shark · 2 months ago
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i don’t regret dyeing my hair blue but i do regret ever going to this stylist. so that’s something i guess
#this whole shitty saga has just been. argh#i like the blue but the actual dyejob was bad. i paid 200 dollars for a job i could’ve just fucked up myself#and it’s like. i’m scared to shower again. i kind of smell bad. it was already streaky with blonde bits before the shower#the shower where my hair dyed me back so bad that im STILL tinted blue in some spots (back neck etc)#and i asked for a refund but im not assertive enough or good enough at confrontation to actually commit to it#it’s like. i respect the value of time and labor. it was nearly 4 hours of work for her. she offered to refund half but said only that much#bc of the amount of product and bleach and stuff that she used#and it’s like. I DONT KNKW MAN.#i need to get it fixed so i can actually shower#but i don’t trust her to fix it because i trusted her to do it in the first place!!#and i can pay someone else to do it but it’s like. taking the half refund is like saying this was worth $100. WHICH IT WAS FUCKING NOT#and then i’m even MORE in the hole on this stupid fucking shitty frustrating stressful upsetting situation. AND ITS NOT EVEN MY FAULT#so uh. lesson learned never trust anyone?#and on top of that. the things i’m dealing with are apparently known issues with the type of dye. ISSUES I WASNT WARNED ABOUT#i wasn’t told how to take care of it. what not to do. not even to not wash it with hot water#like literally i could have just done it myself and it probably would’ve been shit but at least it would’ve actually been on me#instead of being someone else’s fault and me being on the hook for it
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urtrickster · 4 months ago
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no but actually like what do i do with myself now. how do i recover. i've just been sitting here with the saga playing in my mind on loop.
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casketscratch · 1 month ago
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Went to a little concert last night that was a lot of fun, but it also had me on high alert for hours trying to calm myself down over how any airborne outbreaks are in the area, no one here masks, why is someone touching me, what are the odds anyone in this city is vaccinated (low!), is this worth dying over, oh this song reminds me of the time someone [redacted], etc.
When we got home, it turned out the cats had broken into the garbage to root around for leftover chicken wing bones from dinner, so then I had a whole spiralling rage/anxiety attack over whether or not one of them was going to die from bone shards, and then one of the cats was up at 6am yowling non-stop and I had a whole other panic spiral over yes, I was correct, he is going to Die Now. Finally kicked the cats out at 7, slept for another 3 hours--it's unheard of for me to not be up by 8am because I can never sleep through hearing other people in the house moving around--and my brain feels like slop in a jar. Just, foggy and drained and tired and burnt out in a way I used to always be. Can't keep track of conversations when people talk to me, can't pull a single thought out of my brain, not tired enough to sleep but too tired to engage with anything.
And then I remember I used to be this burnt out literally all the time, for years, so... maybe this is a good sign that I am managing better most of the time. I notice when I'm drained now. As frustrating as it is to be this bored/fuzzy/foggy/switchy and incapable of doing anything about it, it's not like this all the time now.
Pretty sure I lost track of myself to the point that someone switched in and ordered a whole shit load of washi tape and stickers and journalling supplies, too, and rather than getting mad (my bank account, bro, it cannot take this) I am just going to take it as a sign to get back into journaling properly like we used to. Not even gonna look at what specific things I ordered, it'll be like a fun surprise when it shows up this way. 😼‍💹
I do however want to invest in all my favourite pens again as a result.
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the-kipsabian · 1 year ago
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1/2, please bear with me cause this thing needs to be viewed as a whole and tumblr doesnt let me post the entire 11+ minute clip even if its well within the size limits
part 2 here
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prettypinkrioting · 1 year ago
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I'm so sorry I have to ask this, I'm sorry if it's been cleared up before but I just followed you so, your url. are you literally-fucking-Spiderman, or... you know... literally "fucking" Spiderman?
why not both
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britcision · 1 year ago
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Hey gang guess who’s had another meeting with That Doctor I See Once In A Blue Moon Who Could Be Replaced By A Robot And I Wouldn’t Tell and guess what
I had a special look at him last time cuz I have pretty fucking good facial recognition and I deadass never recognize him even in his own office
He was like. Short and kinda buffer and tan.
And I have a call with him now and just.
NOPE. Could be a completely different guy, he’s pale as hell and kinda drawn and looks about 10 years younger, does not look familiar
It’s just this one guy too, anyone else I see even just passing in the halls I can usually pick out of a crowd but this one doctor
(The one where a 4 hour wait in his office is standard but WE ARE GOING FOR A RECORD TODAY GANG 6 HOURS BETWEEN APPOINTMENT TIME AND CALL BACK)
I recognize half the nurses it’s just him
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moongothic · 1 year ago
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Hey anon, I'm so sorry but your ask is obscenely long so I'm cutting it down to bare essentials
Most of the Original Ask was just a copypaste of this forum post, quickly highlighting this comment too
LOOK WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT MORIA, YO! "Defeated by Gellard and returns in the Final Scenario with an even more grotesque appearance than when you first met him."
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But yes, I am aware, I have read that exact same thread before (when I first learned about the Romancing SaGa inspo on r/OnePiece and wanted to learn more), and I did briefly discuss the Seven Heroes when speculating about Cross Guild and wherever the fuck that plotline is going
And I'm now going to add onto that original post, because boy howdy do I have some additional thoughts to get out of my brain
Okay so yes, Doflamingo would be the OG Iteration of Bokuohn, the puppeteer who manipulates people. But in the context of Cross Guild... That's Buggy. "Bokuohn is in control of the majority of the Seven Heroes' forces. Situated in the Steppes region, he owns a large landship, complete with an innumerable amount of slaves." That's literally just Buggy. Like he's not a master of psychological manipulation nor can he forcefully manipulate anybody like literal puppets either (the way Mingo could), but. Like scratch out he RoSa2 terms, replace them with the relevant OP terms and it's a perfect description of Buggy.
Bringing that up because I'm still interested in Cross Guild becoming Shichibukai 2.0 But Without The Government This Time, but if we wanted to have exactly seven former Shichibukai to make up Cross Guild and make sure we had like ones who could actually fill out the roles of the Seven Heroes from RoSa2... Yeah there's going to have to be some replacements Not just because otherwise Doflamingo would need to be broken out of Impel Down somehow (which I doubt will happen, also I don't think Crocodile would want him working for him anyways), but also. Jinbei's with the Strawhats. And I don't think he's ditching Luffy any time soon for Crocodile of all people, not when he finally fucking joined the Strawhats for realsies.
So Doflamingo could be replaced with Buggy, cool, sure. What about Jinbei then? Who will take up the role of RoSa2's Subier?
So a while back I wrote this speculation post about if the Burn Scar Man (who has the final Road Poneglyph) could be a Fishman.(PERHAPS specifically Davy Jones?) Bringing that up because during Kuma's flashback we did learn that Kuma got the Shichibukai Slot after Ace defeated one of the seven at the time. And we specifically got to see Ace talk to Jinbei about it, Ace being surprised Jinbei of all people was glad the Shichibukai slot was being filled again. Now obviously, our Firefist Ace defeating a Shichibukai makes for one great candidate on who the Burn Scar Man could be, as Ace could very easily leave someone with some severe burn scars. This is platantly obvious lmao. But it's the conversation with Jinbei that actually interests me, because like. Sure, Jinbei being a fellow Shichibukai, it might be odd for Ace to hear Jinbei be glad that one of his fellow Warlords is being replaced. But that comment could make twice as much sense if that Warlord had ALSO been a fellow Fishman and/or a Merman (and perhaps someone Jinbei might've known better?). Now indeed. We are going to meet the Burn Scar Man eventually, 100%, it's mandatory for the plot to move forwards. Which means we're going to find out who that guy is, and if the Road Poneglyph gets stolen from him, he might have to find something else to do with his life since there won't be any point in guarding it anymore. And hey. If Mr Burns does turn out to be a fellow former Shichibukai who also happens to be a Fishman/Merman and a master of Fishman Karate... Oh hey, what's this? "Subier - A half octopus merman who controls the flow of the ocean to use as a weapon." Like. IDK I think we could have another Cross Guild member on our hands here.
(Honestly, currently the only problem we have is Dantarg, whose role currently being held by Kuma. Like the only other known Shichibukai we have who could be "available" is Law but he hasn't really done any "bodymods to become stronger" and thus doesn't fit the description. Hell, that description fits Kid more than anything but he was never a Shichibukai either. Guess we gotta keep on hoping Kuma somehow survives and just doesn't return to the Revolutionary Army for some reason)
Hilariously the most interesting thing you pointed out was that comment in the forum thread about Moria, 'cause I hadn't even realized this before but
So we know Blackbeard had captured Moria and held him hostage for... weeks, months? Until he was freed by Coby as per Perona's plea during the raid on Fullalead. Interestingly though, although theoretically we know Moria and Perona should have escaped the island by now, we have not seen either, now have we? Which is kind of suspicious now that I think about it. Because like. It'd make perfect sense if Blackbeard and co had been torturing Moria during his time in captivity, right. Have they been feeding my beloved goth onion well? Realistically, probably not?
Like. Thinking about it. We know Moria got chumby after the trauma of losing his crew and all, so what are the odds he might have lost that weight now during his captivity??? What if he looks more like his younger self again, the one see clash with Kaidou??? Or, the more horrifying option. I mean zombies aren't like an inherent part of Moria's DF abilities, just the Shadow Manipulation. But for all we know Moria could have lost a limb or two, and depending on where the fuck Hogback is (dude is supposed to be a competent doctor, he should be able to stitch Moria back up)... I mean theoretically the next time we see Moria he could look like one of his zombies. Or worse.
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