#stupid people win stupid prizes

[i-hear-a-sound]

the fact that the fucking news had a count down to when the submarine’s oxygen was going to run out is to me some straight up dystopian shit. no not because the submarine was full of dumbass rich people and a 19 year old but more so the fact that people actively decided to make a spectacle out of what was undeniably going to end up in a fatal incident (what happened today) meanwhile I have seen next to nothing in regards to the recent boat capsizing in Greece that killed over 600 immigrants.

[kahluah]

*puts hand up* sorry I’m very new here what’s the context with what’s happening with the tag war??

Alright, I will give my run down, but I will not be naming any blog names on either side even if I have the info and the action was net positive. I just like to use my blog to scroll and reblog for the most part and refuse to embroil myself in the drama more than just giving my view on it as a bystander. One that definitely has an opinion on the events, but also as someone who would rather curate my own experience than fight.

So all this fighting that is going on, it used to just happen in the normal "Jiang Cheng" tag because back then there was no "canon Jiang Cheng" tag; it had not been created yet. (By that I mean it was not a tag used as a tag, Tumblr's shitty search algorithm might still show posts if one typed it in to the search bar because those posts had the words 'canon', 'Jiang', and 'Cheng' in the tags separately, but there would not be posts with "#canon Jiang Cheng" because nobody normally creates a post with a tag like that when "#Jiang Cheng" was suffice. Sometimes I see irrelevant posts in the canon Jiang Cheng tag, but the actual tag isn't on the post, the tags just happen to have all three words in them. Those I ignore because that is Tumblr's fault, not the poster.)

The fighting was between people that like the character and prefer to see the good in him and the interpretation of his character, and those that may or may not like the character (just because you like a character does not mean you need to defend their every action after all) but do not share that opinion of his character and have a more neutral or negative portrayal by contrast. The former also tended to favor or have only read the novel as it is the source material for all other adaptations.

Now things really came to a head when hate and threats were being thrown about on posts that were just quotes from the book showing the negative actions of Jiang Cheng. The people posting the quotes were basically told "if you hate the character why don't you just tag the post as anti-JC?!" but is it really right to call those anti posts when they were posting how the character acts in the source material? That is the character. That is how he acted. Look it is in the book! The character really did that! It is not somebody's negative headcanon that the character may act like that, it is something the character actually did. Personally I can not consider that as an anti character post, and neither did the people who made posts like that.

But things did get heated enough that some people finally took a step back and said "Fine. You want us to make our own space to make these posts so that you do not have to see us talk about JC this way? We will. It will be #canon Jiang Cheng and you can block it if you don't want to see the posts." Was the name picked in the spirit of schadenfreude? Very probable, but it is also not an incorrect name as the people who wanted to use it base their opinion on the novel. But the point was that the tag was created so that people now had their own space to make the posts they wanted and those that did not want to see it could block the tag. Curate your own experience; we can block tags on this site for a reason and advertising tags to block is a courtesy. (Because as said previously, the search here sucks, because the posts contain the character's name they are still likely to show up in the main tag, but block the newly created tag and you will not see those posts either way). Could the other people come into the tag in good faith and make arguments with textual support? Yeah, that was welcomed, but in the spirit of debate they should expect rebuttal. Was that what happened? No.

No instead what happened was basically this meme

They did not like the name chosen for the tag. They read the novel too and still believe that JC is good, so they should be able to use the tag too! Never mind the fact that the tag was made so they could block the posts they didn't want to see. So that they can go on with their days no longer having to deal with the people they constantly fought with. No. Instead of curating the experience of this website, they would get so hung up on the fact that there was now a tag called #canon Jiang Cheng in use that they had to use it too to defend JC from the people that post 'negative' things about him; even if it is novel text!

So while the fighting didn't stop, it did get slightly better because not everyone felt the need to jump into the new tag to defend their fave. Some people actually did curate their experience. Plus there is a block button and people do use it, so things got to a point where I would say it was relatively stable even if there was still fights here and there. (But once again I lurk, I do not participate. Things may not have been the same for more outspoken people).

But then a certain muskrat bought Twitter and a chunk of the fandom there fled here. That's when the main push to "reclaim the tag" and the new influx of people hopping into the tag to argue and defend their fave appeared. These people did not know why the tag was made, they just saw blogs that they liked telling people about the "JC-antis" that made it and how with the new people pouring into the Tumblr fandom from twitter, they had a chance to flood it and reclaim it. And since then the fighting has not really stopped.

As for what has happened in the past few days, you have JC defenders flooding the tag with fan art (not canon), screen caps from CLQ (not canon), and screenshots of a sentence or two from the novel (canon, but usually out of context or lacking additional lines that go on to rebut what was previously said) in the tag and the people who made the tag for a specific purpose getting mad about the spam. (I block so I have no clue how big the influx was or whatever but there was definitely like at least 3 new people I had to block). So when they made posts venting the anger, you got JC defenders coming back to them and going "But I never sent any hate or harassment! I just used the tag to talk about the canon character!" And perhaps they didn't, but these people in their defense always ignore and never respond to the question of why they are in the tag instead of blocking it because that is what the tag was made for. Instead they come back with "Well if you want to talk about JC that way, why don't you post in the anti tag or make your own tag!"... Remember that meme picture I used above. Yup.

The tag war began because people did not like negative posts about JC in the main character tag for JC. When told to use the anti tag or make a new tag, a new tag was made, but instead of curating the experience the stans of JC got so tilted at the name of the tag that they decided that they would come into the tag and continue the fight instead of just blocking it. Twitter fallout made the fighting worse. And now we have come full circle to the JC stans once again telling people to just use the anti tag or make their own tag.

[novkovsky]

coward 🥰 stop talking about me

it's weird asf of you to make a post about kendrick/drake discourse trying to compare it to taylor drama and then get upset and victimize yourself when black people respond telling you the shits not comparable. you can't cry woe is me "I'm just talking about taylor swift on my taylor swift blog," when you decide to involve yourself in discourse, that has little to nothing to do with her. like wtf did you expect?

like I'm sure there is an argument to be had about double standards and misogyny, but bringing up the plight of your white woman in a conversation around black commentary (i.e kendrick calling out a potential pedo freak culture vulture) you dont and never will understand, isn't the place for that.

but whatever- last time i checked, tumblr is a public social media site, the block button is free, and i can say what i want. If you didn't care, you wouldn't be in my asks box. grow the fuck up 🥰

[blackflash9]

To any and all people who either voted for Trump or didn't vote at all in this election, I will promptly laugh and proceed to act with cold indifference when the leopard inevitably eats your face.

[p21blackandgold]

🫣

[a-sketchy]

[monkiekidtwt]

i just wanted to ask, would you ever share your account on twitter so people who don’t want to be posted to other social media sites aren’t? mainly because of the whole erlang video inciting a lot of malice towards people who were angered by the results even after the whole situation has died down and posts have been deleted.

I’ve said this before, but for the sake of clarity:

Nah. I don’t want folks to DM me there to send more harassment cuz I know multiple people on LMKtwt have a few Issues with me.

Obviously, though, I don’t condone harassment. I lightheartedly poke fun at these people because they’re glorified bullies trying to live out their high school mean girl fantasies over a LEGO poll. If anyone goes back and bullies them in turn, then that person’s equally as bad and is not the arbiter of justice they think they are.

[sapphire-weapon]

dude.... don't joke with me

I am dead fucking serious. You need to give yourself over to The LORD. Okay? You need to drop to your fucking knees and let yourself become enraptured by the light of God until it radiates from your asshole like the Ark of the fucking Covenant, if you don't follow every single little word I have ever said about the Resident Evil game series (produced and developed by CAPCOM). The Archangel Michael himself will descend from the heavens and enact divine retribution on your pathetic fucking soul if you dare to ever question my gospel.

btw tell your dad I said hi.

[cygnahime]

I must emphasize that I was never even a little allo or het. I watched the first several episodes of Utena in my early teens and thought she was dumb for this whole caring about a boy's opinion issue and not even wearing an ACTUAL boy's uniform, and did not for another ten years learn or realize that that was a kind of queer way to respond, you dingus!

[xamaxenta]

Cant believe i have to take out the trash myself get out bro!!!

[spearxwind]

actually judging by the tag on the site it looks like everyone is being tactless about the sub situation and also have very good reason to be

[badolmen]

Being happy at someone’s misfortune is not something I approve of in my own ethics. Gleefully waiting for someone sliding on a banana peel to trip face first into a shit show of their own making, on the other hand -

[falllpoutboy]

reading the tweets accusing J of being a slut and a cheater

[theres-whump-in-that-nebula]

Uh… sorry about your boyfriend. He was bitten by a spider… yeah, we had to amputate his leg… But we also taught him how to swim and fight to the death; he’s a pro at it!

[madtomedgar]

I do sometimes wonder if people here think that if a billionaire dies their wealth disappears or gets redistributed, or if a ceo dies their company suffers a massive blow. But nothing happens, actually. They die and their will is executed, transferring their billions in assets to their family members. Sometimes the state gets a very small percentage in tax revenue, some of which funds services for regular people. The boards of companies find a new person to be ceo and steer the ship of exploitation. Individual rich people dying has 0 effect on anything. The systems are way bigger than that.