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Suspended In Gaffa

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not really an apple bc i figured chess suits shuake better

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Wax and Wane

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Persona 5 — Beneath the Mask

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🍎 trend but with shuake

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femshuake haha ......

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this is you and me, and me and you, until there's nothing left

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curiosity

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it’s a draw!

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nye

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glass half-full / glass half-empty

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considering yosuke's character is based largely on internalized societal values and toxic masculinity, how do you think he would be like as a cis girl? i feel like he would be hyperfeminine and probably to the point as a typical mean girl and the other possibility in my head apart from that is being a femcel who resents other women for managing to be pretty, get a boyfriend, etc since yosuke would quote on quote 'fail' in 'womanly' roles. but im curious for what your intepretion would be

ooooh, interesting question! i think first of all, the way in which yosuke is ostracized would change, so the way she reacts to it would change, at least somewhat. i don’t think cis girl yosuke would be hyperfeminine or a mean girl cause both of those things are very social, they’re only really acceptable if they’re what your clique are doing, and yosuke doesn’t have a clique. my interpretation is probably closer to your second option, though i think she’s more inclined to envy and self-deprecation more than resentment.

i think femininity wouldn’t “come naturally” to girlyosuke, so she’d overcompensate and double down on anything she can perform, say heterosexuality. like how i believe canon yosuke is more interested in women as an extension of masculinity, i think cis girl yosuke would be more interested in men as an extension of femininity, but those dynamics aren’t quite parallel. pursuing men isn’t performing acceptable femininity. not pursuing men isn’t acceptable femininity. there isn’t really an acceptable femininity at all, no comfort of doing it right. i think girlyosuke would still have an interest in fashion magazines, just womens fashion. so she’d parrot the same kinda “guys like girls who” shit, especially as justification for her own taste lmao, but she wouldn’t then use that to be hyperfeminine herself, cause trying too hard to be pretty/attractive to men despite being plain will get her figuratively murdered, socially, especially when she’s already in a precarious position as the face of the thing that everyone loves to hate. i mean, not trying hard will also result in her ostracism, but that’s the baseline. girlyosuke is so dire. she’s even more like saki. she’s simultaneously put on a pedestal and degraded as the princess of junes. i think she’d be pretty desperate for any friendship she can get, while resenting the town that shuns her.

honestly girl yosuke is just yosuke + misogyny. vast swathes of her deal are the same just flipped, then reconsidered how she would be seen by the society around her keeping in mind misogyny.

the things i think would most change are her relationships to those around her, depending on if they’re also cisswapped or not. girl yosuke with guy yu is (superficially) uninteresting like every romance in p4, except it would be like a romance in p4 even if the writing around it wasn’t p4, you know? cishet souyo is inescapably very persona 4. it’s plucked straight out of yosuke’s dreams. the comphet + bisexuality combo… dire. a guy she genuinely likes coming along willing to tolerate her? she’d think him a saviour. it’s fun to think about. but if yu’s also a girl then it’s as it is in canon + internalized misogyny, which is also very fun.

the most interesting thing that i think would change is girlyosuke’s relationship to saki, chie, and yukiko, if they’re also girls. with saki it’s that they’re then very very similar, and without the looming spectre of heterosexuality (other than what’s peddled by yosuke lol) i think saki might be a fair bit more open to her. girlyosuke would still like-like saki. and saki would still find the way she desperately clings to her annoying and etc. but they might be closer than they were in canon, which of course would make what comes next worse. in this situation, i think you could get girlyosuke’s shadow explicitly acknowledging that which shall not be named (bisexuality), which is awesome and could have lasting effects on her character arc compared to canon yosuke. with chie and yukiko, i think girlyosuke still wouldn’t necessarily fit in with them, especially with her penchant for heteronormativity and acting stupider than she is, but they’d be more sympathetic and not outright hostile to her. (also, it’s neither here nor there, but imagine the homoeroticism of girlyosuke saying the exact same shit she says about them in canon. fun.) three people that tolerate her starting out the story is pretty sweet, but they also all come with caveats, and she wouldn’t feel safe being attracted to them as she is, so.

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really perpetually obsessed with the scenario in my head where yosuke hits on naoto in order to quote unquote microdose on being gay (bi but, y’know)

either as post lab but pre re-realization so yosuke is under the impression that naoto is a girl, but has up until this point known him as a guy and he presents exactly the same as he did when he was all in on being seen as a guy and seems pretty uncomfortable being treated as a girl actually so it’s pretty easy to just keep treating him as a guy but if i hit on him It’s Technically Not Gay (it is).

and in addition or even in an entirely separate scenario disregarding all that, it’s a matter of naoto being the absolute safest guy to hit on in inaba. like, yu is out cause while he’s probably cool, it’s too high stakes. hitting on your boy best friend (intentionally lol) is like crossing the rubicon; no going back from that. kanji is out because yosuke has been too much of an interplanetary scale asshole to him and anything kanji could possibly say would decimate his ego. kou & daisuke are out cause while there’s kind of a vibe there yosuke doesn’t know them that well and ergo can’t trust them to not blab and the entirety of inaba finding out. the entire rest of inaba is out for obvious reasons. the entire rest of everywhere else is out because what’s yosuke gonna do? operation babe hunt but gay this time? c’mon. naoto is the absolute safest option. yosuke’s ego might get bruised but naoto has already had a guy express interest in him and been normal about it (unclear if he realized but good enough), is else-wise queer, and would not say shit to literally anyone. he’s perfect

also i think with their powers combined they could bungle this social interaction so bad they feel Obligated to date for like a week. like they both fuck up their phrasing and mutually think “oh god he genuinely likes me (untrue). i can’t back out now”