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[hesquietoday]

If that byclair canon anon is talking about that one line from lucas on the line when they say he was hinted at to be bi I'm going to lose it

[vaspider]

Look. A little advice.

Once you get to a certain amount of Known on the internet or a subsection of it, or even in a subsection of a RL group of people, there are going to be people who will make up a version of you which exists only in their heads and which has absolutely nothing to do with who you are. It might better resemble who you were twenty years ago or it might never have had anything to do at all with who you were then or are now.

You cannot stop this. You cannot prevent this. Once you get a certain number of followers or a certain amount of attention, that's going to happen: people will make up stories about you which either look through a fun-house mirror at some small aspect of who you are and twist it and blow it up until it doesn't resemble you at all, or which just have absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.

This is just another kind of parasocial relationship; it's the kind which really sucks to deal with, because it's so negative and so pervasive. It's very real, and the frustration you feel about it is very real. Nobody wants to be known incorrectly.

But. You can't control this. It's gonna happen. No matter what you say, no matter how precisely you say it, the people who want to misinterpret you will find a way to do so. This doesn't mean 'don't pay attention to what you say,' or 'don't be purposeful and precise with your language,' but it does mean 'don't obsess over the people who are determined to get you wrong.'

You can be the most anodyne, run-of-the-mill, unremarkable human being, and the people who are determined to hate you will find something that they can point to and say 'ha ha! I told you that Spider danced with the devil at midnight! I witnessed it myself!' (It will not help the situation if you are, say, self-admittedly stubborn as fuck, long-winded, and sometimes kinda fucking obnoxious, but please realize that in the end, it doesn't really matter. This is gonna happen no matter what.)

The people who matter will look at what's being said, wrinkle up their foreheads, and say, 'uh, man, it looks like Spider was actually playing with his dog at 9 am?'

That said, if you don't have elephant-thick skin from being a marginalized-gender human being who's been on the internet since before the web had pictures, there are some things you can do to make it easier when people making things up about you starts to get on your nerves:

Establish protocols for when it becomes too much: have someone read your messages, turn off your notifications, have time where you purposefully disengage.

Establish protocols for how you interact, period: "I will block people without guilt if they engage positively with the people who spread untruths about me." "I will answer everything in public so people can't lie about what I said, because it's right there in public." "I will not answer work-related stuff in DMs, that has to go to the work email." Whatever it is, create some boundaries for yourself. Stick to them. The people who push you to bend them aren't doing that for your benefit but theirs.

If you get someone who really hits your Weirdo Alarm, trust it. Yeah, block and report, but also, take screenshots and store them somewhere that isn't easily erased. I have an 'Internet Weirdos' folder, which makes it a little easier to deal with when people start doing things like 'making threats of physical harm to me and my family.' Don't fuss, just take a screenshot and chuck it in the folder. Having that record makes it easier to just forget that it ever happened, because you have a paper trail if anybody starts doing something Real Weird.

Spend time offline, with people who do actually know you.

Don't get lost in the version of you that someone else makes up in order to make up for the shit that's missing in their own life. You aren't required to play the part that someone else is trying to script for you. It is never to your benefit, only to theirs; you gain nothing by standing in that role for them, and you lose precious seconds of your one irreplaceable life.

You could be using those seconds to look at this video of how to pick up a duck, which I think we can all agree is a better investment of your time.

[ns-media]

Elaborating on my previous Oda romance/LuNami post

For the ones who read my previous long post analyzing Oda's thoughts on romance in One Piece + LuNami, thank you!

I'd like to elaborate on some things right here in case some people may misinterpret some of my viewpoints on how Oda portrays LuNami. So, one thing I see many LuNami fans point out is that Oda making LuNami subtle in his manga is on purpose, which I do wholeheartedly agree with! While it definitely is intentionally subtle, my post was to point out WHY that is the case, because Oda goes out of his way to show off the more cliché or "obvious" stuff in non-manga material, while the manga basically exclusively contains subtle things, indicating that there is something holding him back from putting this cliché stuff in his main story, which is what 95% of the content Oda makes even comes from. And as I pointed out in the post, I think it's him wanting to appeal to boys. I do think that if it wasn't for that, plus his shyness about romance, that he would put in more obvious cliché things in his manga, as he seems to be doing that for his non-manga material.

Now, this subtlety LuNami has in the manga is what draws many LuNami fans to the ship, which makes a ton of sense no doubt, in the manga it's basically the ship's bread and butter. My post wasn't to say "Omfg stop being subtle forget your audience and put in obvious shit in your manga Oda!" Nope, definitely not. My post was to point out that he truly DOES see LuNami as romantic and the reason I pointed it out in the first place is because it's so subtle in the manga that some people need convincing that the subtleties in the manga are truly LuNami hints and not just something you can dismiss like all the naysayers do.

This is why I talked about the non-canon material so much in that post, to prove how it's obvious that he DOES really like LuNami because of how the non-manga shit is so much more obvious with LuNami hints. Mr. "I think romance is a good idea for Film: Gold" also said "OP is a shounen manga ffs, no romance depicted lmao". Totally different statements, one for his manga, one for an optional movie... hmm, there's no way my post has any sort of validity!

By the way when Oda said "no romance depicted" he's not full of shit or whatever, he clearly refers to obvious romances stories that aren't subtle hints like how he portrayed LuNami in the manga. Every time he mentions romance it's clear he means the obvious stuff, of course I think it's obvious how UsoKaya is basically canon but there's no dedicated romance story between them in the manga.

This predicament that I think Oda is in with making it subtle in his manga and less subtle outside his manga, is why LuNami seems so easy to trivalize for so many people. Because in the manga it's so subtle that people can easily just go "Nah that is not what it means" and in non-manga material it's like "No man it's non-canon bullshit who cares it's not in the manga". But see, these people saying this is exactly what I think Oda wants his boy audience to think! So... good job I guess!

Now, I know that I may seem to be putting in just a bit too much stock into Oda being restricted by his audience, which yeah I do see why you would think so if you happen to think that. However he keeps bringing up his readers, over and over and over AND OVER AND OVER again when nobody even asked him about that, dude.

Some guy asks: "So uhh who does Nami like?" Oda: "Uhh this is for boys and they don't care man"

The guy: Umm... I didn't ask for that but thanks?

Aoyama: "I wouldn't leave if you do romantic stuff"

Oda: "Well shit, PEOPLE seem so supportive of couples huh!?"

You uhh, seem a bit too concerned with the opinions of "people" and there's a bit too much "shounen shounen manga boys boys boys" when NOBODY ASKED YOU to talk about them in your answers for it. How should that not to arouse suspicion in me?

And those 2 examples aren't even the only time he's like that.

Buuut, I think this is all I gotta say... for now I think. I might edit this post to further elaborate on stuff later, no promises but I'll think about it!

[angy-grrr]

okay im actually tired of ppl pretending it’s the same. “Izu///ochas and togachakos reduce Ochako into a love interest the same way!” “If deku was running and saying Bakugou was his hero then bkdks would see it as romantic so they are actually canon”.

Just, stop. Queer and hetero ships are completely different, and there are different things expected from them; if ppl focus too much on the ship side, then yeah, characters do get ignored and reduced to romantic plots, but it’s not the same. The hetero couple is not only expected but most of the time reduces the female character into the romantic subplot exclusively. Izuku and Ochako dating would make her whole arc not be about learning to be a hero and accepting her own feelings, but about dating him as her conclusion would happen “thanks to a romantic confession and getting with the boy”; so many ppl are angry bc she didn’t confess so she’s still “holding back”, but she isn’t, because she already admitted those to Himiko (yes, that time she told her she fell for him). If she was hurting mainly because of not telling him she likes him… that’s not the same as hurting mainly because she likes a girl. It’s just not the same, in any way.

And the same goes to the other sentiment -we expect queer coding, not straight forward confessions, hugs and kisses like hetero shippers can hope for. So we over analyze their interactions basically out of necessity knowing the possible context -if they are meant to be romantic, there are many obstacles to make them just confess, so we, especially shippers who are also queer, try to pick up on clues. This isn’t exclusively something in BNHA, it has been happening for a long time ever since there were policies and laws against LGBT+ representation in movies and TV shows in many countries; queer coding is a way for the authors/writers/creatives/etc to say “if you know, you know” (there’s also a history of queer coded villains for the purpose of following the same laws, but yk, the creatives behind many of them certainly knew a lot about queer stuff in their private lives…)

But hetero ships don’t need any of that -they don’t need secret codes and secret messages confirming canon romances out of fear of consequences. They are a boy and a girl! What are the consequences? In this particular case too, there are some ppl misinterpreting shippers on purpose -not understanding why bkdk handhold is a big thing not bc it’s a handhold, but bc of their history with hands, or believing Ochako was exclusively doing her job as a hero when she went for Himiko. So. I’m just angry at ppl for comparing these ships as if straight and queer narratives are the same. EDIT: I’m also tired at ppl for believing an author can write a manga weekly for 10 years and follow the original idea of what the characters were about and represent.

“oh but how could Midoriya be the greatest hero after all of this” I’m sure hori doesn’t know bc in 2014 he had a different idea for the ending -more typical shonen with him being the best hero in the world, and now he isn’t even the most popular among his classmates-, so know he is stuck with that narrative haunting him and can’t ignore it lol

[metaldevilll]

viv and palp both being down bad as hell. that’s the post.

and like…. the stupidity that comes with it….. they say or do things in the heat of the moment and then they’re like wait no. like palp catches himself staring and he’s just like “you’re so fuckin ugly” and viv is like what the hell

or like….. one of them watching the other, just completely fuckin enamored, and then something happens that snaps them back out of it- like. palp watching viv fight and viv catches his eye and is like “yo this sucks let’s gtfo” and palpers has to shake his head and like… etch a sketch his brain back into thinking mode instead of Gay mode

viv zoning out and just watching palp do whatever mundane task, palp is talking about whatever and is like “are you even listening” and viv has to be like uhhhh nah. palp is annoyed and viv is flustered cuz he knows why he wasn’t listening, palp doesn’t notice, and then the moment is just gone again….. locked in back to normal

i just really fuckin love the idea of them being so infatuated while also fighting for their lives to pretend they aren’t.. and them just being stupid ass little simps in general. like the drawing of palpers in the dress you made…… viv thinking lgbt thoughts…… genius

i’ll eat any art you make of them like i’m starving so keep it up man they are my lifeblood

no because i get you anon. grabs you by the shoulders and SHAKES YOU!!!!!!!!!!! i think vivilly finds a sad comfort in believing palpers doesn't love him the way he does. like,, it's fine if he thinks gay thoughts cuz it's not like they'll come true anyway. he can dream, right...? so he indulges in those feelings in his own time, while pretending like he only likes palpers as a friend it never strikes him that palpers might feel the same way. he’s thought over different scenarios a million times and while he doesn’t have a response for every silly thing palpers may say, he’s seemingly never caught off guard despite humoring him, kind of playing into the chill sarcastic stoic dude trope. but he’s not. he’s soft and he feels and he loves and the persona is a result of that with palpers i feel like he also does believe that vivilly could never reciprocate. when he looks at vivilly, he never knows what's going on in his brain. they do have their moments that sort of prove they have similar minds, but he never actually knows what vivilly’s thinking imo his brain is empty more often than viv’s is when it comes to thinking of his crush. a sus moment happens and he’s like “holy fuck….” but it’s glossed over almost immediately afterward. things happen in-the-moment for him, and he reacts with his true emotions and has less of a filter than vivilly, he gets louder and more aggressive (not with malicious intent, just in general as a silly guy) essentially they both are going "nah he can't like me... he CANT... THERES NO WAY" and theyre both dead fucking wrong im writing this using how i personally view the characters (my version of the characters? idk), i have a limited perspective and small perception of things (if you played mc with me you’d know…), i misinterpret stuff a lot, so like… idk. maybe it’s totally out of character for how you view them. it’s kind of cool to think about though, that they can be read so many different ways when none of them are inherently incorrect I TOTALLY CAN SEE THEM MINDLESSLY WATCHING THE OTHER ALSO. not caring about what the other might be thinking while looking at them, not noticing the other watching them equally as much… they’re so clueless it’s INFURIATING i like to imagine that when they flirt with each other, it’s always by accident. i can’t imagine them flirting with each other on purpose… like, they’ll be arguing absentmindedly, bickering or maybe laughing about something, one of them says one thing (most likely palpers) that catches the other off guard. they just continue to build off of that and i think the only thing that stops them from going too far is them getting too flustered to continue… they could be like two centimeters away from kissing (and they both want to) but they both back out because they’re about to fuckign explode from emotion “FINE. I’M GONNA- I’M GONNA KISS YOU, BRO.” “OH YEAH??? BE MY FUCKING GUEST, DUDE.” “BET.” “DOUBLE BET.” “T-... TRIPLE BET.” “bro. you gotta get closer than that…” "i know i know, just- give me a second-"

in my opinion the only situation where i can see them ACKSHUALLYYYY confessing is like… the other’s health is in grave danger and it’s a last minute thing where they mihgt fucking lose them so they just tell them everything. viv comes back from a mine or smth on the verge of fucking splurging bleeding out and palpers holds him in his arms and begins sobbing and says i love you please don’t die over and over or something. viv survives but he was half unconscious throughout it so he doesn’t even remember. the pining continues

[winchesterszvonecek]

Brian ‘Otis’ Zvonecek Masterlist

Full Masterlist

Girl Talk: Otis misinterprets your girl talk with Shay and Dawson

Third Date: After your third date with Brian, you finally decide to introduce him to your baby daughter and things couldn’t have gone more perfect

The Zoo: After introducing Brian to your baby girl, he joins the two of you on your daughters first trip to the zoo

Closing Time: 18+ Leaving your phone at Molly’s leads to a surprising turn of events

Runaway Bride: Brian can’t let you get married without telling you how he feels

Insecure: Otis feels insecure in his relationship with you every time he’s reminded that your ex boyfriend is Lieutenant Kelly Severide

It Made Me Think of You: Otis gives you a gift that made him think of you as a way to finally confess his feelings for you

Headache: Otis takes care of you when you get a headache

Dressing Room: Your shopping trip changes for the better when you bump into a rather cute firefighter in the dressing

Pool Table: You and Otis bet against each other during a game of pool

Laser Tag: Cruz gets fed up when you and Otis keep making out during laser tag

Stood Up: After getting stood up on your date, you find yourself bumping into some much better company

Morning After: You wake up next to Brian for the first time

Come to Bed: You try and get Brian to come to bed

Big Hug Mug: You accidentally break Otis’s favourite mug and his reaction was not at all what you expected it to be

First Christmas: Your first proper Christmas with Brian becomes that much more special when he asks you that one magical question

The Gala: You and Brian attend the CFD gala together where things quickly turn from boring to steamy 18+

“Fine, you can use me as a pillow.”

“You take me so well.” 18+

“I wish you would just look at me for two seconds.”

Things you said at 1am.

“Let me know if I’m doing anything wrong, okay? I want to make you feel as good as possible.” “O-Okay.” 18+

“Okay, but I think we should do that again. For research purpose. For humanity.”

For one muse to take the other from behind. 18+

Cliché

Trouble

“If you don’t turn off that stupid video game and have sex with me, I’m gonna masturbate right here.” + “Show me how you pleasure yourself.” 18+

Surprise

Bonfire

“Damn you look good on your knees.” + “You taste so good.” 18+

Gift

No one’s ever done this for me before

“Now everyone knows you’re off limits.”

“Do you want my fingers?” 18+

Sharing ice-cream

“You know, I talk to a lot of people every single day. I hear all their voices telling me all kinds of stuff; I hear it all. And the only voice I really wanna listen to is yours, you know? Even when you’re driving me crazy. So come on. Please… Just drive me crazy again?”

To take a hot bath with my muse 18+

“Aren’t you afraid of getting seen with me?”

“You’re beautiful, you know that?” + “Don’t act so shy now.” + “Stop, you’re making me blush in public.”

“My muscles are aching.” “They weren’t aching last night when we were…” “Shut up, that’s exactly the reason why they are aching right now.”

“Are you trying to get us in trouble?”

How He’d React:

To you asking him out on a date rather than the other way round

To finding out you hadn’t seen his favourite movie/TV show

To you wearing his clothes

Play Pretend: You ask Otis to attend your family reunion with you on one condition… that he pretends to be your boyfriend. complete - ao3 link

Original Character (ao3):

To Hell and Back: Chicago Fire x Supernatural crossover - In which Otis comes to learn about what’s truly out there when he finds himself falling for a Winchester on hold

One Night Stand: In which after a drunken one night stand, Otis makes it his mission to track down the woman who he can’t seem to forget. complete ✔️

City of Smoke: In which a new paramedic has a rocky start at firehouse fifty-one, but after working her way into the hearts of those in the house, she soon finds she’d worked her way into one of their hearts just a little too much. complete ✔️

A Slow Burn: In which a new truck member catches the eyes, and the heart, of fifty-one’s very own Otis. complete ✔️

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[edandstede]

i think canon izzy is an interesting character who is played very well but every day i’m SO FUCKING GLAD his arc came to its natural end and he died because all his fucked up racist fans have shown their entire arses with their behaviour. now what i REALLY hate is how almost ALL the conversation post s2 is around this one white dude - people doing insane mental gymnastics to minimise his actions and explain why he was actually right for abusing ed or why he didn’t actually do anything wrong and why ed is really the toxic violent one making izzy his victim and i am not even TOUCHING that backwards meta claiming stuff i couldn’t even dream up while high. something about jesus and aids? yeah because that makes sense you insensitive out-of-touch dickheads.

seriously if you hate the show now then prove it and shut the fuck up, move on, it clearly was never for you if you can misinterpret it this badly on purpose. the izzy you’re a fan of doesn’t fucking exist, you made him up in your heads and got mad when the canon character didn’t fit your woobified poor meow meow version. you wanted izzy to be a victim so fucking badly and he just isn’t. he is NOT. he repeatedly threatened and goaded and emotionally manipulated the main character - an openly gay indigenous brown man who expressed his emotions and wore effeminate clothing, who was actively depressed and suicidal - and he fucked around and found out as a result. he had ed released to him like his fucking property by the english after almost having the man ed loved executed in front of him and you think ed is the antagonist here? you think ed is wrong for reaching his breaking point and lashing out exactly how izzy repeatedly begs him to? he wanted blackbeard and he fucking got it.

anyway like FUCK ME there is a whole cast of excellent and interesting characters who don’t get talked about nearly as much, ESPECIALLY characters like jim and olu, roach and zheng, spanish jackie, hell ED HIMSELF. they’re sidelined by fandom racists constantly to make room for this one dude who was an out and out homophobic racist bully and dick for 90% of the show.

stop pissing your pants for 5 seconds and accept izzy (a side character there to accompany ed’s arc) was a canon antagonist with internalised issues who dealt ed (one of two main characters) a LOT of damage, but ultimately actively tried to change and embrace the crew and their ways on the revenge. he found his place in that family, that is a GOOD THING, and he died having found a peace most pirates like him don’t ever get to have. yes, ed lashed out and hurt him, and it was a direct consequence of the violence izzy THREATENED OUT OF HIM. izzy himself acknowledges his part in ed’s pain at the end, so you can too! how about that? if you can’t wrap your head around these very easy to understand plot points then just fuck off at this point y’know? literally just fuck off and find a different show because clearly the canon story of this one isn’t for you.

you cunts are fucking insufferable and have made this character one i don’t wanna touch at all, any post about him just makes me recoil because some fans just could not be normal about him.

now can we get some quality posts about literally anyone else

[steaming-system-takes]

my hottake is many people misinterpret what people mean by "doubles dont exist"

all we are saying is that doubles do not literally exist. we arent telling you that you being uncomfortable isnt valid or whatever, we are simply trying to point out that no two introjects of the same source are the same person or said fictional character, source-separated or not.

as an introject, i and many other introjects in our system used to get uncomfortable around other introjects who shared our source. (I SHOULD MAKE THIS CLEAR THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW I AM TALKING ABOUT IN THE CONTEXT OF BEING IN A PUBLIC CHAT OR SERVER, NOT AN ONLINE MEDIA ACCOUNT! a server vs a tumblr blog for example are different. my issue here is when it comes to discord/other public chatting sites.)

you know what we would do? either leave because it is our responsibility or we toughen through it and remember that person is literally a different person from us. im trying hard not to come off mean or invalidating but im really bad at wording

you're an introject on a tumblr blog and people sharing the same source as you make you uncomfortable? valid. blocking is a thing. just dont say anything and block. if someone is invading ur DNI on purpose thats on them. just block and thats it.

you're an introject talking in a system server/chat and someone else happens to have the same source as you? excuse yourself from the chat for the time being or ignore that person.

please do NOT go up to someone and call them a "double". i am not you. you are not me. we are not fictional characters. do not go around calling people " doubles". i could go up to you and say the same thing.(i wouldn't obviously bc i hate that word and it's rude i just mean that i LITERALLY could and it would be the same thing you hypothetically did) i am not a clone of you. (not saying everyone uncomfortable with "" doubles"" does this i just see it happen a lot.)

obviously, also respect when someone says "doubles dni". i just don't.. like it being called doubles bc its kind of dehumanizing and isn't. real in how the term means. it doesnt work for DID/OSDD.

we got over the double thing, and thank god we did, because all it literally did was fuel our DELUSIONS WE EXPERIENCE and PARANOIA from believing it. it also made us have internalized ableism towards other systems for a while. (again not saying everyone who has this as a discomfort is like this, just that it wasnt very healthy for us and ive seen a lot of people where it isnt healthy for them or the people around them either.. ive seen people literally yell at others over their identity??? can we please stop normalizing the double mentality thingie. introjects are NOT THEIR SOURCE or all the same person..)

we've had our unreasonable and finnicky triggers. hell we used to have a trigger for FUCKING APPLES. (long story.) and eventually you have to learn how to get over them. sorry that sounds really rude but i wish people would stop this!! calling people "doubles" is so fucking hurtful like yeah you are allowed to be uncomfortable but please dont spread the doubles thing or yell at people. you dont do that stuff and you just block or ignore and move on? cool. you are a cool person. stay cool

god i really hope this made sense. im the worst at wording.

im paranoid people read my messages wrong so heres now a list of clarifications;

>i believe alters are allowed to NOT source separate if they dont want to separate. as long as it isnt hurting them. even then thats for them and their own system to figure it out, and source separation shouldnt be forced.

>im not forcing people to INSTANTLY get over their discomforts and triggers. it takes time. i know. im just asking *some* people to change the way they view things or at least treat it differently (ie stop using "double" and use a different term or wtvr for it, be more responsible abt it etc) and strive to get better about it. i hope that made sense. im not trying to belittle people i genuinely just dont know how my tone is coming off and im paranoid im coming off rude/gen

>yes some of us still get uncomfortable around source-sharing people. it used to be really bad when we were younger but it's gotten better. yes we do experience different kinds of delusions and have severe paranoia and im aware those can be part of why source-sharing people can be triggering to some. this post is only talking about the people who INSIST on calling PEOPLE "doubles" or instead of being responsible for their own stuff and just blocking or ignoring these people will yell at random people. it does not happen a lot but it does happen. this is a post against that, not people who are merely uncomfortable and/or just block/leave without saying anything. if you are just uncomfortable and block or wtvr again UR COOL ur cool /gen

>and honestly im just asking people stop saying "double"... use "source sharing person" or smth else instead 😭😭 the word double is strange and dehumanizing

sorry this was so long.

/lh

^

we genuinely love getting these long and thought out takes, its nice being able to see someones full opinion on something and why they feel the way they do

[cogito-ergo-amo]

The housemate stuff this week is...it's still not technically resolved, but it's also proven that my fears about factors that would prevent a mature, amicable resolution were correct. Ugh.

And like it's monopolised my thoughts and energy, even moreso as I've currently got mystery lurgy. I resent how much it is draining me and has been draining me - intensely, for weeks, but it's also been a gradual drip-drip-drip for years, past attempts to address it have been met with stonewalling and deliberate, sometimes damn near malicious, misinterpretation and refusal to engage.

I'm sorry to keep harping on moments of "oh holy shit, I've actually made more progress than I thought via therapy" but this is very much a huge example of the slow, frustrating, painstaking incremental work coalescing into significant, major change.

Actually this is probably gonna get pretty long and navel-gazing about therapy and mental health and interpersonal conflict stuff. I don't expect it to go anywhere triggering, but I'll stick it behind a read more to break up the wall o'text

Part of why this has been so hard and so significant is seeing so much of how my mind used to work (and is still primed to work! If I don't pay rigorous attention!) reflected back at me. How this might have been me before any kind of serious diagnosis or therapy. Taking accountability even now is still hard for anybody regardless of brain shape, but the squirrelly, defensive, abrasive, desperate and sometimes downright cruel attempts to deflect, to flip the situation because if you're the aggrieved party SURELY nobody would be so callous as to expect an apology and acknowledgement of how you hurt them.

Sorry to RuPaulpost on main, but there's an argument in S10 of Drag Race where the person who was objectively the hurt party, drag performer The Vixen, is being tone policed and told to calm down. She says "everybody is telling me how to react, nobody is telling her how to act" about the person who hurt her. Unintentionally hurt her, but still, hurt was done.

I felt this in my soul when Housemate who hurt me (let's call her H1 for the purposes of this post, literally only one person on this webbed site will know who is who if they read this) insisted another housemate be present when she and I talked about it. Bless this beleaguered Housemate 2, he has had his own challenges with her, he also has extensive conflict resolution/mediation experience professionally. He also has a shitload of his own trauma that this conflict is niggling at, which is part of why I didn't want him to be dragged into it. But during the conversation this week she was constantly appealing to him, emotionally escalating, talking over me, silencing me - I got to occupy maybe 25% of the conversational space which in fairness is more than expected. Had H2 not been there I doubt I would've been able to get even half of that meagre airtime. I think it also helped me to keep my own composure. I got shit on for it "look at your face, you don't even care!" when inside I was spinning out but knew I couldn't let myself get dragged into an external emotional spiral. Also, autistic, so at any given point I'm not sure what my face is doing or if it's the "correct" expression.

So I'm here thinking "it never had to be like this" whilst also knowing somewhere deep and instinctive in my own wounded soul and trauma-healing process that actually it was always going to be like this and it had to happen this way. I still feel a bit mercenary framing another person's distress as part of my own "growth", but boundaries are new to me and we knew going in that enforcing one for the first time with someone who benefits greatly from trampling on them is going to make them feel personally attacked and deeply offended. And here we are. This is now a story of how I really badly hurt somebody by...asking them gently to stop hurting me.

Had a text exchange with therapist on Monday after The Conversation. He offered an extra session then but even though I was exhausted and shook up, I didn't actually need that. In our usual session today this was of course the meat of the discussion. We got a little playful with it, I mentioned that her response was pretty much exactly what I expected and asked him to take some guesses about things that were said. He got pretty much all of it correct. I mentioned I could've scripted it, and he gassed me up some with "if you'd scripted it, it would've had better jokes". This was probably just riffing but fuckit, my ego needed that.

We're trying to work through my internal conflict of "if she doesn't get some kind of intervention she's going to keep doing this to everybody in her life and be miserable forever" vs knowing that if she were to get assessed, she would most likely get diagnosed with Cluster B brain problems. I have fifteen years of experience of exactly how a diagnosis like that can negatively impact every facet of a person's life. They aren't diagnoses that should still be used, imo, because they're an excuse to ignore severe trauma in women by calling them bad people who can never be fixed. I can't wish that on another person. But she's also not going to seek help on her own, she definitely won't pursue private therapy that might avoid such labelling. And I know how fucking hard, slow and gruelling it is for therapy to work and make a difference with such heavy shit. I want her to live a happier, smoother life. I want her to get better. That hasn't changed, it breaks my heart I'm unlikely to ever see it happen, but right now I'd settle for her not treating everybody else like we're NPCs she can command, control and punish at will.

I'm not accustomed to being in conflicts where I don't just automatically assume I am the bad, wrong party. But I know where I stand here. I know what is reasonable and what is not. I know which behaviours and statements from her are completely unacceptable. I know which parts of her narrative about me are completely fictitious. I know I have been misread, misunderstood and willfully misinterpreted. This is fucking HUGE for me. This certainty feels deeply uncomfortable. Of course there are still parts of me trying to turn it around and make me believe I'm evil and all of this is my fault but there is so much more of me pushing back against that because it just isn't true.

I'm rambling now. Will probably ramble more on this in the coming days.

For the record, this is what the conversation could have looked like. This is what the conversation has previously looked like with other housemates when we have unintentionally triggered or overstepped with each other: person 1: hey, I know you didn't mean to do this, and I never told your this was A Thing for me so that's on me, I'm not mad or upset with you, but This Thing was very triggering of something intense for me in a way that made me feel unsafe for a prolonged period of time. I don't need to go into detail unless that would be helpful.

person 2: oh shit, I'm really sorry, thank you for letting me know. I will make sure I do not do/say The Thing in that way again.

person 1: If it comes up again in future, we could perhaps handle the situation in X or Y way to avoid the trigger specifically.

person 2: I understand

person 1: Thank you, I appreciate you listening and understanding. I am going to put the kettle on. Would you like some tea?

[allison3k0]

First weekly Mr S post!

Wednesday: Stayed after school w Bestie M in Mr S' room, had lots of laughs together, Mr S joined in on the jokes between me and Bestie M, showed Mr S some of my modelling stuff, asked about being a peer helper in one of his classes next semester, he said he'd love for me to be his peer helper 😭❤️

Edit: I forgot to mention that before he left, after he said he was leaving, he made eye contact with me and went silent, and it was just a long, random eye contact, mind you it wasn't actually that long, just a little longer than normal, but it was enough for me to notice 🤭

Thursday: Stayed after school for not too long with just Mr S, showed him me and Bestie M's blooper video from multiple school projects, he laughed hard at it and it was an amazing experience, showed him my nails (My mom did them last night), had a genuine and nice conversation regarding him talking to my ex (Z) before, since I'm doing much better mentally after he stopped bothering me and I didn't realize how much it actually affected my mental health, asked him to put in a good word for me when it comes to being his peer helper, he said "That shouldn't be a problem at all once they talk to me about it, I got you" and he smiled wide and laughed a bit, it was so adorable and I'm flustered, talked to him about my advanced English exam, and then he left, he said "Have a good night!" and I said "You too! Bye!" and waved at him, and he said his signature "See you later!" as he left.

Friday: Stayed a very short while after school with Bestie M and another friend to finish something up for animation, showed Mr S my 3D models, and he said "Oh wow, looks good! You did a good job!" and I just went "T-thank you" like I literally stuttered (as has been happening when I'm around him lately for some reason), all I could think about was how bad I wish he said "Good girl" LIKE OML, anyways, I referenced the tiktok audio "Oh look, a strawberry" when my friend walked in with a container of strawberries and Mr S giggled after I said that. Bestie M accidentally said "Paper class" instead of "English class" and Mr S was like "What the heck is paper class?" and I died laughing, he was also laughing which made Bestie M and my friend laugh, and we were all laughing when I said "What would you even do in that class?" and my friend said "Stare at a sheet of paper for an hour and a half" and me, Bestie M and Mr S laughed even harder. My stomach hurt after that. But then Mr S locked up the door as usual and said "Well, have a great weekend!" while he was making eye contact WITH ME SPECIFICALLY even tho my friends were there. And then I said "Yep, you too! Bye!" as he left. I stg every time he leaves and I say bye I'm so close to saying "Love you!" out of habit from my parents 😭 If I did oml, I'd be so embarrassed. I legit almost say "Bye! Love you!" every time 😭😭😭

Side note: I'd like to confirm with him sometime that he does stay after school for the purpose of letting me into the room or if I misinterpreted the email, simply because I wanna know for sure before fully believing it and being delulu. But, I'm not sure how I can do that without it sounding like I'm asking if he likes me. Advice?

[curiousitycollective]

I've been questioning on and off since i think, 2020? 2021? if im plural or not. At first i decided that no im not, because i dont have did/osdd/etc and I wasnt open to the idea of any other form of plurality bc it was always looked down upon. I stopped thinking about it for a while but more recently I've been having trains of thoughts that dont really feel like they belong to me: im not sure how to explain it, its not a voice, feels more like a thought that was placed into my mind but doesn't belong to *me*; but then i was thinking maybe im just personifying my intrusive thoughts etc + i have a history of experiencing paranoia/delusions too so, yk

We dont really switch either. I space out a lot (i do dissociate, im just quite confident i dont have any form of disordered plurality) and it occasionally it *feels* like im not in control but I know I still am. The most "out of control" i've felt was doing something and feeling that it was *influenced* by someone else, but not actually done by them. A lot of the things I thought were alters (back in 2021) were also more fragments of myself, I would say (minus one guy who's more distinct, but idk if im just making all of that up.)

I'm not asking you to tell me "yes, you are definitely plural" or "no definitely not" of course, I'm just wondering if there's any input or anything you could direct me with or anything ? ^^;

first sorry if you have been waiting on a reply, tumblr apparently isn't showing us notifications for asks anymore. Also our answer will be above the read more, and we'll stick some resources, blogs, ect under that we think might be helpful.

So a few things, starting with some general stuff for when you're questioning things plural and otherwise.

On the "am I making this up or not?" we encourage anyone whose questioning to distinguish between "making something up/faking it" and misinterpreting things when looking at their experiences.

If you aren't purposely forcing things or consciously creating them then you aren't making something up, you can misinterpret one thing as another but if you aren't trying to do something then you aren't making it up, making something up/faking it is a conscious choice.

We also encourage anyone questioning anything to worry less about "am I right about this lable?" and focus more on "does this label help me/make my life easier/explain things to me?" It takes the pressure off about being wrong and focusses on what the thing means to you specifically.

If you decide to identify as plural and find that no, this doesn't actually fit there's nothing wrong with going "nope not actually me" and continuing on with your journey.

We've gone through many different sets of identities and pronouns before we found what fits, because often the only way to know is to see if it works. The importance thing is to make sure that whatever you choose fits you, instead of you forcing yourself to fit it.

We definitely recommend journaling or doing some sort of tracking to see how you feel about different things over time. Honestly a small notebook you keep in your pocket and jot down any stray thoughts or influences would probably be a great start.

Its actually something we did when trying to sort out the influence of ocd from schizospec from plural. It can help you see patterns over time that would otherwise be really hard to spot and also having an external record helps avoid a lot of the pitfalls of human memory

Onto the more plural related stuff. So one thing to note is that its not at all uncommon to not directly hear anything or feel others beyond stray thoughts and feeling influences especially with plurals who aren't fully aware of being plural yet.

Internal communication often takes time and practice in order to become reliable. Its not something that you'll regularly see in plural communities online because by their nature most have some degree of awareness and internal communication, otherwise they wouldn't have sought out the community but it is completely normal.

Feeling like others in brain are versions of you, or fragments also is not uncommon. Its another experience that doesn't get spoken of on here but its one many have, smile/Wren/Ghost are some of our oldest members and started as alternate versions of each other before becoming more individual. Some find that as members become more aware and communicate improves members become more differentiated some stay the same, either way its not an unknown or weird experience.

One thing we highly recommend for you is looking into the median community and their experiences. Median falls under the plural umbrella but covers those who feel their system is less differentiated/closer to singlet.

Okay this is already huge and I think we hit on most points but please feel free to ask follow ups about anything we've said

- Everyone

Blogs

@median-culture-is

@multiplicity-positivity

@inclusiveplurality

@pluralpolls <— good for getting an idea of different experiences in the community

We'll also add our #accounts and narratives tag to this post, not everything is plural but its our tag for collecting different experiences so there's probably some stuff there that's useful

[kitkatopinions]

Umm about my ask about yang being a terrible sister

I meant it as a "what if yang was acknowledged as a terrible sister and her not caring about ruby was caller out and pointed as a flaw"

I am aware she's a pretty bad sibling to ruby

Ahh, sorry. You mean like, how would I feel if she was acknowledged as a terrible sister in the show itself? Sorry if this is another misinterpretation, just let me know! But if it isn't, I think it'd be really good if the lack of care and the bad sibling behavior was called out in the show itself!

What I really want to have happen is that RWBYJ get back to Vacuo (I'm begging and praying for no time-skip in Remnant) and after the initial adrenaline of not being dead hits, Ruby starts icing out WBYJ. (I'll get to Yang specifically in a second, but I do want to talk about more than Yang here so please bear with me!) Maybe Ruby doesn't do it on purpose, or maybe she feels guilty about it, but instead of working with them as a team, she starts leaning more heavily on Nora, Oscar, and Ozpin and Qrow since we know she doesn't want to be the leader anymore and it would be natural for her to have grown more appreciative of their sometimes flawed but clearly trying methods (especially after the Tree God basically sang Hannah Montana's Everyone Makes Mistakes to get Ruby to be not-suicidal anymore.) Side note, but I think after Neo, now would be a good time to have Ruby start to be more in the 'trying to redeem villains' camp, which could lead to her trying and struggling around Emerald due to her having killed Penny, and her and Emerald agreeing that they should try to get Mercury on their side but Ruby is also doubtful of that and struggling with that because Mercury stopped her from saving Penny when Emerald killed Penny. That's just a side note, though, because there is so much for Ruby as a character to do and to experience in Vacuo if there isn't a time-skip that I feel like a lot of stuff would need to be set up in V10 with payoff coming in V11. Anyway, onto the rest of WBYJ.

I think having Weiss clearly recognize the problem and try to bridge the gap with understanding and listening to Ruby would make sense with how she was characterized in V9, but that it would also make sense for her to be caught up in drama regarding Winter and more specifically her auraless underage newly homeless little brother, so I'd like Ruby to warm to her more by the end of the season, they'd still be clearly not quite on track still. With Blake, this is going to sound bad, but I kind of want Blake to not really notice or care that Ruby is icing her out. They've had like one one-on-one conversation and only one meaningful moment between the two of them since volume one, and although I think V1-5 Blake actually did want to be Ruby's friend and just didn't communicate it well, Blek kind of just sees her as a girl she admires but doesn't know well. I feel like in order to try to bridge the gap between Blake and Blek (which I feel like they should really try to do since V10 features Vacuo where Sun is and might also feature Ilia and Blake's parents) then they should start by acknowledging that Ruby and Blake aren't really friends. Having Blake be caught up in her own thing (the return of Sun, trying to help the Atlas/Mantle refugees, possibly assisting Faunus in Vacuo,) and that resulting in her not really trying to be there for Ruby just makes sense to me, and I say that with love for Blake and hope for who Blek could be in my heart. She and Ruby aren't friends, I think that should be acknowledged. As for Jaune, I feel like Jaune should undergo a little mini arc of trying to act like nothing has changed for him and everything is back to normal, but needing to deal with the natural changes like him not knowing his old team well (focusing more on his relationship with Ren because as I mentioned, Nora would be a bit more focused on Ruby as a character,) not doing well with being part of a group, other problems like that, and that includes that he knows he should be closer to Ruby but now doesn't really know how to talk to her especially because she's acting different than he remembers.

Now to get to Yang: I think that whereas Weiss is aware of the problems with Ruby and trying to do the right thing thus causing Ruby to warm up to her but she's still preoccupied, and Blake isn't really aware of the problems with Ruby and is preoccupied... Yang's next arc should be focused more on her family. She can still have little moments with Blake so it doesn't feel like they just kissed and that's it (though I really think it would only be natural for their relationship to be thrown off kilter after the events of V9 which is something that should take time to resolve,) but Yang should be trying to act like nothing even happened and then get frustrated when Ruby starts acting cold and absent towards her, and frustrated by Ruby starting to rely more on Ozpin and Qrow (Yang being the one who seemed to have the biggest problem with them.) Yang trying to talk to Ruby about her cutting them off and acting like Ozpin (or Ironwood lol) could result in an actual fight between them, with Ruby telling Yang that she doesn't understand how Ruby feels, Yang saying that Ruby needs to talk to her, and Ruby countering that she has verbalized things and Yang just doesn't listen. Frustrated and angry, Yang could leave and try to find Weiss, who acknowledges that she doesn't think they were very good friends to Ruby and it's on them to bridge the gap, and Yang could be like "she's the one that yelled at us, not the other way around" and Weiss could then be like "Really, Yang? You don't think the things Ruby said were a tiny bit justified?" And maybe relate to Ruby's troubles or even compare Yang and Ruby's relationship to her trying to get back a good relationship with Whitley ("I ignored my brother's struggles because it was easy and I was too caught up in my own problems to even notice he was hurting too, and our fighting got so bad, it took him practically saving Nora's life for me to realize I was wrong about him, and now I have so much time to make up for! I don't want that for you and Ruby.") It could call back to Weiss and Yang's conversation about Blake in V5, it could lead to Yang really reflecting on her past actions, and then in V11 or something, it could lead to a whole big emotional reconciliation.

Basically, I think that the only way to properly move forward without ruining the relationships further is to lean on the natural consequences of what happened and make Ruby and WBYJ essentially... Not friends anymore, and have them have to get that friendship back. It's much easier done with Weiss who actively seemed to at least make an effort with Ruby in V9 (despite the horrible finish after Ruby got back from the Tree,) and I think Blake and Ruby need to have a bit of time before actually starting to be real friends FOR THE FIRST TIME because I feel like the lack of care in their dynamic has led to them feeling like strangers, and I think Jaune... Might be a lost cause atm, who knows. But with Yang, I think we need messy call outs, fights, crying, anger, and time for her to think things through, in order to get her and Ruby back on track. I definitely think that Yang's lack of care in Volume nine should be called out in the show itself.

[angelsdean]

my tags on my prev reblog re: dean's misinterpreted attitude toward monsters just got me thinking abt sam and the bloodfreak stuff in general and like, as we know a lot of the early seasons were framed in sam's pov so a lot of the time it' him who's feeling like a monster and projecting that onto others to confirm his own beliefs abt himself. like when he finds out abt john telling dean to kill him if he goes darkside sam suddenly is in agreement w/ john saying john's right and dean has to do it because dad said so !!! anyways that's just preface to what i want to say which is, sam isn't really a monster. what i mean is, he's not a monster in the inherent sense that he seems to think he is, and that's part of the reason why dean pushes back against the demon blood stuff because he knows sam can be saved and for dean his number one job is to save sam because the alternative is following john's order and that's something he just cannot do. so it makes sense that dean would do whatever it takes even if that's being a little mean or forceful (calling him a monster, echoing john by telling him not to walk out that door to give sam pause, forcing him to detox) because he does not want to kill his brother.

but anyways, sam is not a monster in the way he (and a lot of fans) thinks he's a monster. he was Not born a monster, it's not something that is intrinsically and inherently part of him. and i'd argue there's really nothing special or "chosen one"-esque about him (aside from the lucifer bloodline making him a better candidate for vessel purposes), he was just a regular baby who was dosed with demon blood, which in the text is treated as a drug / addiction. there was nothing special about any of the babies azazel dosed, they were just the children of people he'd made deals with. i think pretty much any baby (possibly even adult) who's fed demon blood from a powerful enough demon (like a Prince of Hell) would develop psychic powers. so it's not something completely out of his control that's turning him into a monster like a virus or a vampire / werewolf bite where he can't stop the progression. it's not happening to him he's making active choices to strengthen those powers and the more he feeds the more he wants it. everything w/ ruby is framed as him knowing he's doing something "wrong", the sneaking around, the lying. and i think dean's response is along the lines of "we need to get you help. we need to stop this because it's something that can be stopped. and if we stop it then i won't have to see you lose yourself or go too far. because if you go too far and start hurting people then i might have to kill you and i can't do that so please just let us save you." and i think that's fair. yes he and bobby maybe go about things the wrong way but i think it's born out of desperation. and also it's not a rejection of "this is who you are and we hate you for being a monster" it's "you're making choices that are leading you down a dangerous path and we're scared we may lose you so we're trying to stop you from going too far down that road."

like the end goal of all the bloodfreak stuff (ruby's end goal) was to free lucifer and freeing lucifer would mean sam becoming his vessel. they obviously don't know all that at the time, but in hindsight it's like, yea we should've curbed that bloodfreak stuff sooner. also heaven was telling dean to stop sam too and that he was going down a dangerous path and that if dean doesn't stop him they will (likely meaning death) so again, of course dean's gonna try to do whatever he can to stop sam even if it's by not great methods. (also heaven was playing him too bc they also wanted lucifer to be freed so that Destiny could come to pass)

[calebwittebane]

toh critical tag on tumblr is so crazyyy occasionally i foolishly venture onto my fyp and theres stuff from it there, or someone sends me a post to morbidly marvel at it, and its astounding every time 🦠 geeze you dorks misunderstood a Cartoon Off Of Didney Channel and are writing manifestos about it in full confidence...... i know this happens with every animated tv show nowadays for some reason (people would rightfully laugh at you if you were like. Hashtag Breaking Bad Critical He Wasnt Really The Danger) and the legacy of the stephen university critical geeks will always haunt us but its sauuur wild to specifically see the things that imo toh approached very gracefully and efficiently and in a smart and purposeful way be completely misinterpreted with a side of some extra malice thrown at the writers and other users online Unprovoked. its so. i think finding yrself doing this kinda stuff should be taken as a sign to get some new interests. preferably something creative because there is a sizeable backup of images stuck in your head making you ill and making you imagine a tv show that doesnt exist and is making you mad and miserable and MEAN. such an assortment of cornballs and cheeseballs like saying stuff that boils down to "but when you think about it, isnt wanting to stop the bigot at all cost the REAL bigotry... hmm.... so much for the tolerant left" please. i thought we were watching cartoons for fun. you cahnt make posts like tat in norway if ye were myy friend id have to knokyu deauwn the firsht time i see ye

[azures-grace]

👁👄👁👂 iri thoughts. Go

I love you /p

She walks by riverbanks to pick up mudcrabs. This girl spends so much time with her shoes off and her pants/skirt hiked up to waddle around in the river, just picking up fish n such. She has jars of live fish in her bag that she carried around very carefully. They're her babies and she puts them in tanks when she gets home.

She's just generally interested in bugs and stuff, she'd try to raise a chaurus if the entire group didn't veto it.

She's constantly getting sick, and Xelzaz has his work cut out for him in that regard.

She teaches herself the lute and drum while The Gang™ is walking around Skyrim

She'll occasionally just start speaking draconic when she gets super excited and people have to tell her to stop accidentally using dragon shouts. Earplugs are required if you get her infodumping. At least one person has been thrown across a room.

Once there's a set housing situation, there will be whole periods of time where she hides in the basement to write for a solid. Day. She must be dragged out of there.

She's not oblivious to innuendo, but sometimes she will WILDLY misinterpret it, and does it on purpose around Taliesin. But only after they're comfortable around each other.

She gives people soaps as gifts because her first thought is "people like being clean, everyone has to" and sometimes it comes off as rude, especially if it's unprompted soap-giving

She helps Remiel engrave "Scrap" onto Scrap in Dwemeris

She almost certainly makes moonshine at one point.

She writes her own music!

She loves kids. And babies. She doesn't go out of her way, but she offers to help with kids whenever she can. And then probably goes on to have/adopt several

I have... A lot of thoughts about her relationship with her family (specifically her father), so uh. Be warned, it's gonna get not great from here

There wasn't really any physical abuse during her childhood, but there definitely was a lot of shunning, especially since she was essentially an affair child. And the affair was. Dubious to say the least. Her mother was young

BUT, on a lighter note, I do think she gets back in contact with some of her half-siblings after the second great war. It'd probably go pretty okay, considering that it doesn't matter if you're shunned or not, bad parents are still bad parents.

She only has half of a "real Altmer" name, but she drops the half that she has after getting to Skyrim.

She ends up failing a peace negotiation because she refuses to negotiate with Carnil (her father), and it accidentally. Starts a war 👍. And then she is forced to be in contact with him a lot more. I haven't decided if I want to kill him or not yet.

[specialshinytrinkets]

🪲Boys will be bugs🪲

(Technical stuff under cut)

Original Bug Popuko and Bug Pipimi toy pictures from this post

OML LOOK AT THE TWO BOYS!!!!! XDDDDDDDDDD I guess I have been starved of caption writing for long enough to do this, so.... here we go!

One of the things about this duo that is. Making me shake and yell is that, technically speaking, they're kinda opposites. But not really. They're simular, but different. In terms of headcanons — that is for sure. Let me explain.

Gumball is the star of the show. It's his world for a reason — if Gumball stops existing, the World (as in, the extraterrestrial omnipotent forces of scriptwriters) is going to do everything in its power to return things to status quota [See also: "The Static"]. The eyes are all on them. They can't escape being Universe's favourite boy. He suffers and doesn't quite know that, being shoved from one wacky situation into another, often being misinterpreted and laughed at, without proper guidance (this Gumball angst post has rewired my brain and you're gonna have to Get Over It).

As for Grave, he's a one-off character. He's starved of attention both in meta and in-universe sense. Why, you may ask? Well, because I don't believe that a child of loving, attentive parents would earn money via illegal burger selling. And rap during work without any specific purpose, only to entertain himself (amd maybe, as intention, others). He's nowhere and everywhere, possibly existing in the background for much longer than presented, with Mr Small referencing a guy who left EJHS for supposedly lying and working at the cemetary. Very interesting coincidence.

So, we have a guy about whom barely anyone strongly cares, and a three-episode character. Both are well-deep into humour as coping mechanism (with Gumball it's confirmed; with Grave — cutting up dead animals as a teen is definetely traumatic). Both are selfish in their own right. And both probably feel lonely!

But with Grave being adopted by Needlemeyers (because of course he is), that adds extra interest. Now he's directly tied to a person who suffers from Gumball's hijinks. So how would he feel meeting Gumball? And how would he feel after finding out Gumball has their own mental struggles? Would there be a sense of kinship? Of the need to guide the young cat through life? And considering that Needlemeyers would greatly care of Grave, what would Gumball feel when hearing of mothers, who DON'T throw their child into a desert to prove his worth?

Oh, and. Don't forget about the queerness. And gaming. Never forget. These fools are like that one meme: "-What do you think of gay marriage? -As far as I'm aware, all marriage is gay marriage." They are nigh interchagable. And I love their moronic energy.