#stop fetishizing gay men

[melody-pearl]

This was part of some stupid Stoliz sticker pack merch and this one is just absolutely disgusting! 

It’s supposed to reference this scene and I HATE IT! Like in this exact scene, Blitzo is clearly uncomfortable and scared and that fucking sticker makes it look like he’s just flustered and that they love each other and it’s so kawaii uwu and I hate it with a boiling passion like Vizziepop is obviously into mlm fetish and fetishized that scene into some cute sticker which I very much dislike.

[mistytwooo]

Just found out people refuse to believe loak and tsireya go together!??

Is this not fetishizing???? No seriously is it not 💀 at this point it’s not even about representation, it’s literally just you not liking cannon straight ships 💀

“ITs jUsT a ShiP, tHeSe aRe nOt rEal PeopLE” okay and? The way y’all would literally do this with real people as well is crazy. (Kpop for example)

And the fact that loak and tsireya isn’t even a ship, ITS A FACT THATS ALREADY BOUND TO HAPPEN????

And how do you find the couple cute and you like them but don’t ship them??? That’s literally contradicting yourself get a grip.

This is fetishizing idc what y’all say lol, I’m adding this (aonung and loak) to my “ships I don’t like” list bc it’s so obvious why this doesn’t make sense.

Please give me a reason why loak and aonung or Neteyam would make sense other than the fact it’s gay. Quickly. Quickly. Hurry up. FASTLY.

Update:

They say that they are a boy and is gay… so? LMAO WHAT it still doesn’t make sense 😭

[moonlovesskunks]

God dammit do I hate it when people say that gay men make them uncomfortable or whatever the fuck and then when gay women come into the picture, it's different. It's not the same. It's incomparable. What?

You claim to be a queer activist and a supporter of LGBT rights, but your entire world is teared to shreds when it's TWO MEN.

And why? Because it's hot for women to do their thing and mind their own business? The nerve of some people.

Everyone's an LGBTQ+ ally until it's something they can't fetishize.

[frankelinosaurus]

“stop fetishizing gay men” means “stop treating gay men you know in real life like their sex lives are for your entertainment” and not “yaoi, smutfic and porn are all homophobic across the board” and the sooner you learn this the sooner you stop looking like a sex-shamey little discoursemonger in front of all the normal gay people who don’t care what people do in their bedrooms

[felixthefish]

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me watching the aaf fandom infantilize and fetishize andy while also shipping him with peter for the 10000th fcking time today. the criteria for being infantilized and fetishized by people who obviously have never been in a relationship is just be mlm. i don't have to fcking see gross fanart of andy x peter EVERYTIME i just look for aaf content. for the love of god this fandom is turning into 2016-18 baldis basics, batim, animation memes era. oh and not to mention andy is a minor and peter is an adult, also the ship is fcking ABUS1V3💀??? i dont understand how people pull sh1t like this and then call me out for just having a non-problematic headcanon for a character. (for context i once said i headcanoned andy as schizophrenic, felix as having bpd and all of the cast as neurodivergent. oh and the funny part is i have schizophrenia AND bpd AND autism so feel free to call me out for projecting into these video game characters even tho theres nothing wrong with that??? its a healthy coping mechanism and not just obvious p3d0ph1l1a like pr0sh1pp1ng) there are way healthier ships with andy like andy x margaret or andy x claus but instead you go to ship something so disguisting??

idk if i should add this part but tbh i need to say it i generally do NOT like peter fans!! atleast most of them. i understand why people may like him i see the appeal in this character but i have had NOTHING and i mean NOTHING but terrible experinces with people who like/stan him, online and irl. most of them have made me VERY uncomfortable, activley hate on me because of my mental disorders oh and send me d34th thr34ts just because i like andy💀. i understand its not all of his fans and im still learning to warm up to them. (hint i also don't like them because they are mostly the ones that fetishize gay ships in aaf)

im sure ive made atleast like 20 spelling mistakes since im writing this late at night but idc i just wanted to say this tbh.

[kajaono]

perfect example of straights fetishizing gay guys

So I meet this woman in a workshop. She told me she wrote her master degree about queer englisch books. I noticed that those were exclusivly gay books (by queer authors, but only gay guys)

So I decided to give it a short test run and started talking about trans, poly, bi and lesbian books and shows.

She quickly said: “No, i do not know those, and I do not have any interest in those.”

She now keeps on posting about gay guy books on her instagram and how cute they are

And I am still thinking about how I could tell more about the queer community and queer literature in one afternoon, then her, who has a master degree

[postmmeridiemm]

my personal take on fetishization of gay men

there has been a lot of talk on fetishisation of gay men in the media, accusing women to undermine the queer community and calling women disgusting for their perversion. and before anyone throws in the japanese word fujoshi, I want everybody to take a minute to contemplate that in the western society 2023AC no one cares if a woman is considered rotten and ruined for marriage because of her taste in media

to make a very simple and clear example on good and bad fetishisation of gay men: the eruri ship in the AoT fandom is good, the sexual fantasy of Amerie in Heartbreak high is wrong (I’m talking about the scene where she imagines malakai and spencer hitting off during basketball training) why? because the average fan shipping eruri is there for the romance and the overcoming of challenges which will eventually bring to love (and smut). They are observing, creating and interacting in a complex and contextualised dynamic about two gay men. They don’t want to jump in bed between them, nor forcing hetero/bisexuality on them by jumping under their covers.

Amerie is straight. Like pure straight. And she dreams of her male straight crush acting sexy with his male straight friend uniquely for her pleasure. She doesn’t even like the other guy. Nothing wrong, y’all say. A woman showing on screen her sexual fantasies is progress, it’s feminism. It’s all wrong, I say. Remember when you all were teenage girls and the boys would ask you to kiss your best friend because they were turned on by women kissing?

That’s the bad fetishisation I mean.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk

[moonandseas]

y’all know you can still be queer and like someone of the opposite gender/sex, right? or does that mess with your fetishsized concepts of queer people? aw. so sad.

[knockoff-castiel]

Dani was like really creepy right?

On my first watch of sense8 she was really funny, but I’m watching it again and wow what the fuck was the second episode!!!! Lito clearly said no to her multiple times and she was just continuing!!! Her fetishization of gay people really makes me uncomfortable.

[accidentalmiraclechild]

Is it just me or does someone else think that straight girls are fetishizing gay men in Thai Bl, just like how straight men fetishized lesbians?

[notar1ana]

Like the fact it’s clearly implied he’s a pedo and a zoophile, PLUS he used Bloberta to get to Clay. And still, people are like, “oh he didn’t do anything wrong”. I feel like those people stem from the “uwu soft gay boy” culture of the 2010s.

Honestly it's so silly when people act like Danielle is completely innocent from any wrong doing and saying he "deserved so much better" like. I love Danielle too alright but. Did we see the same show? Do we know the same Danielle?

[kajaono]

Topic: festishizing of gay men

Stick with me here. So we have this saying in Germany: „jemanden mit dem nackten arsch ins Gesicht springen“ which basically translates to: „to jump into someone’s face with your naked ass“

And I have this journalist acquaintance. She studied literature and wrote her master thesis about queer literature. And now she thinks she is an expert on queer matters. BUT! She only reads gay books. When i asked here about lesbian, bi and trans books she said: „I am not really interested in those and they are so hard to find“. I mean… grrrr! But not a new information that some women festishize gay men, thinking they are in fact an ally. Frustrating but not new

What makes me really angry about that situation is: she is now publishing her own book. The story? A love story between a male boy group singer and a female journalist. 100% straight.

And additionally she always blogs (on her Instagram) about gay books from a gay German author. Saying how cute those books are and how funny and wholesome. While - on the other hand - she is also fan AND acquaintance of a bisexual female author. (this specific author I always blog about. The one with the bisexual poly mains.)

Do you think she ever screams about those bi poly books on her Instagram blog? And do you think the characters in her own, just published book, are gay, bisexual, lesbian, poly etc?

Of course not. But she still uses her press interviews to advocate for queer books. Which yay! But I just want to jump in her face with my naked ass because her „activism“ is only for gay books. Every other queer author can go suck themselves, I guess

The hypocrisy here is driving me crazy

[yourleftpinkytoe-blog]

Me when people dismiss Neil’s canonical sexuality just cause they want him to fuck every male character in the series:

[unforth]

Actually, I really wish Tumblr as a whole was less comfortable using feminizing language for gay men, especially gay East Asian men.

[melody-pearl]

Yeah. Her writing for most gay relationships suck ass.

I genuinely wish Vivziepop’s gay male characters had more depth to them, and what I mean by that is I’m so tired of her gay characters liking each other simply because of a lust driven relationship and nothing else. I’m so tired of seeing everyone say that she’s so good at writing complex LGBTQ relationships when I legit don’t get it. Obliviously Stolitz is the main centric one, we have no idea what these two even like about each other and what drives them to the other, other than they’re good in bed. They don’t even fucking know each other well, it’s just….0 chemistry.

Then you have Moxxie and Chaz, and they could have been the perfect opportunity for an interesting insight, but Chaz unfortunately is just there so Viv can wave in your face that Moxxie is in fact bisexual, and apparently Mox was only attracted to Chaz because……..he’s hot and they both like dick, like…that’s all I got since they never even explain why he liked Chaz. Such a well written relationship Vivzie BRAVO. I totally believe that Moxxie, someone who’s supposed to be down to earth and the straight soft man, liked Blitzo 2.0, a crude and juvenile character who’s whole personality is that he loves dick and is obsessed with it. They try to pull this thing where it seems like Chaz regretted what he did to Moxxie, but it’s obliviously bs. Chaz only liked Moxxie because of his dick, because his entire character is just “Me sexy and me want sex”. Such great bisexual representation Viv! 🙃

Finally, there’s Fizz and Ozzie. It’s too early to speak on them, but from what we’ve seen in the trailers, I’m glad they actually seem to be diving into how they met, and their relationship. It even seems like they’re genuinely comfortable around each other too, since Ozzie seems to have his own room with the other and let’s him eat and sleep with him. These two might…MIGHT actually be good, right off the bat I like how lovey dovey they are…..like….GASP, a gay relationship that’s love dovey and isn’t just driven by lust or sex?? THIS is what we want Vivzie.

I want your gay characters to be written well, to have chemistry, BELIEVABLE chemistry. I want to see what attracted themselves to the other and how they’re supportive to the other. I want to actually see them passionate with one another on screen, that isn’t just sex related. Have them kiss, or cuddle, or give each other gifts, just show your gay characters actually being AFFECTIONATE of one another, instead of solely relying on the stereotype that they like each other because they both have dicks. It’s so funny because Charlie and Vaggie or Moxxie and Millie are the perfect example of a couple being supportive and affectionate, so why can’t your gay characters be written that way? Why do your straight and female characters get to be actually nuanced relationship wise but your gay characters are reduced down to “ME LIKE DICK LET’S FUCK BECAUSE IT’S HOT”. Hopefully Fizz and Ozzie can break this homophobic stereotypical ass writing but I’m not counting my chickens, Viv sucks at writing gay relationships there I said it.

[butch-bakugo]

One of the worst ideas I've seen genuinely spread around the LGBT community is that liking a gnc person of the opposite gender is "fetishizing".

Bi women liking feminine boys is not "fetishization". Fem men aren't inherently gay or bi. Straight women liking fem men is not fetishization either. He is LITTERALLY within her sexuality but because you only view feminine men as "soft boy femboy little Twink gays who get preyed on by those creepy Fujoshis straight women 🥺" instead of... Ya know... Just a man who is feminine and could be litterally any sexuality, you think that wlm woman is a predator.

Sams gose with y'all and your stupidity surround masculine women. Bi men can like butches and masc women and it's not "fetishizing lesbians". Masc women aren't Inherently lesbian or bi. Straight Men liking masculine women isn't fetishization because she is LITTERALLY within his sexuality but because you only view straight men as "predatory creepy rapists who want to assault the fat ugly hairy dyke whose CLEARLY only presenting that way to drive men off but men feel entitled to her body" instead of, ya know, just a masculine woman who could be of litterally any sexuality, you think that mlw man is a predator.

If you want more cis het men to feel comfortable wearing dresses and skirts and nail polish and make up, you have to stop both the external cishet and internal LGBT assumptions about men who like feminine things. A bigot calling him a faggot and you calling him a queer~🏳️‍🌈 are both forcing a sexuality based connotation onto this random man that can get him in serious danger from homophobes and transphobes. Your gaydar is wrong.

If you want more cis het women to feel comfortable wearing suits and boots and cutting their hair short and having visible body hair, you have to stop both the external cishet and internal LGBT assumptions about women who like masculine things. A bigot calling her a dyke and you calling her a queer~🏳️‍🌈 are both forcing a sexuality based connotation onto this random woman that can get her in serious danger from homophobes and transphobes. Your gaydar is wrong.

Stop assuming all gender nonconformity is based in gayness and transness. Is it a good indicator? Sometimes but never assume and once you stop assuming, you help more cishets feel comfortable participating in gender fuckery. Stop assuming every masc woman is a butch and stop assuming every fem man is a Twink. Those are gay labels and there's nothing Inherently LGBT about presentation.