#starscream true form

[km3tt0]

save me True Form Starscream- save me…

[soda-sparkss]

me omw to love and appreciate my gigantic wife

[loxes-a]

It’s an absolute shame we never got more true form Starscream :(

I do love this design tho, hopefully we get to see it as a figure one day.

[somerandomcockroach]

Ahaha.... so, finished "Till all are one", will just put a few screenshots I liked because who will stop me

Starscream and Bumblebee being an unhealthy in the most healthy possible way married couple... Just... I mean, I'm not sure if Bumblbee is real (like some spark dust) or really is his hallucination, but the way they talk, the way it helps him keep the sanity while he looks insane, the way he is alone once he really leaves

And just sassy Starscream, his fear, the REAL him, OH MY GOD LOOK. LOOK AT IT, I was kicking my legs, I love Starscream being a sassy rat stabbing the backs, so seeing all these was a big surprise... Broken villain, somehow reminds the path Megatron had to path through... (Also, his true design reminded me of a Senator Shockwave haha... I have trauma, just the fact that it reminded me and the fact that it is the TRUE form, and the fact that Senator Shockwave was so close to that form)

BLURR. I LOVED Blurr even before BUT, when you see first hand more of his character. A great owner of the bar that collects all kind of bots and all of them are in peace, he doesn't allow people with bad mind inside. He also has the opinion of most, he wants what they want and speaks for them. Everyone wants the better leader, who will hear them and fight for them, he collected all the people with that opinion, his bar is literally that little heaven

Bonuses Knockout being a lovely husband...

Just Swindle ehehehhe little pretty boy being reborned

The great knowledge of Vortex XDDD

[prideicons]

true form starscream for anon !!

[doodlecat19]

something something if starscream can have a true form so should ravage and the other animal cassettes

I'm working on a laserbeak and buzzsaw one chat, I'll link it below when it's done loll ;–;

[amebanworld]

Kuddos for this analisys.

But let me add some thoughts to the whole impression about "his true form" thing.

The fact is, in spite all the variated shapes Starscream has in IDW, even counting other continuities, this form does not seem to be *him* I understand the meaning of the color pattern you point out, which could be a nice change, but A) He looks like TC (quite much his uppergrade form in Armada). B) His color pattern always has been red-silver white- blue, quite much like Optimus himself, and we don't see "evil" tips in Optimus, in spite they both share the same colors. The funfact is "red" is quite unusual among D'cons. So, why did they change the colors? And why Starscream, in spite being looking for a body that fits him (in IDW), never got the idea to make something similar to this? Which is tied up to the next big point. Why his true form barely looks like a flyer type? I mean: sure, he has turbines and a cockpit. But the wings, his silver wings, his more noticiable feature and what defines him as a Seeker, are barely noticiable here. In fact, as a whole, this desing of his is closer to be a remaked HotRod.

Sure, the desing is beautiful. But I cannot recognize as "him", except for the dark face, which fortunately they respected. As for the giantism thing and how small is Windblade next to him. Well, she always grows up that much when she fights Vigilem in her own mind, and also she gets upgrade atributes in this fight and other scenes in the comic. I think the giantism is some short of Mental Projection of himself, about how big and powerful he sees himself now. But there is something else that bothers me, and I think many fans too. His upgraded form is beautiful? Yes. His true self is limited to change his body? No. In IDW, Starscream walks a long life way for sure. Cold Constructed-created for others by greed- revelous citicien-DCon soldier-etc... Even he kept the Matrix for a while! And finally he become The Chosed One (at least at this point of the story), which he made a great effort to ruin till TAAO happens. But the fans don't remember him as this blue guy. Because to justify his whole life with some kind of dysphoria doesn't suit his personality nor traumas. I think, when Windblade forged his spark being a Cold Constructed, made him the chance to be himself... in a spiritual level rather than physical. It was some short of Epiphany rather than "healing his dysphoria". He wanted to stop to be a "slave" and a "cunning survivor" because he gets healed of how he was "mass produced". Perhaps the writers tried to give him this kind of Spiritual experience through a body change than just having a mystical experience. But the result is we, as audence, cannot see him in this true form of him, in spite his beauty.

My two cents.

I have a lot of thoughts on Starscream’s ‘True-form.’ Some good and some less so but for this post I really just want to analyze the differences between Starscream’s usual design versus the appearance of his ‘true-form.’

Seguir leyendo

[sunoflegend]

//share the tea sis how does spotlight megatron affects you?

IT'S SO FUCKING BAD IN THERE DUDE IT GETS SO BAD IN SPOTLIGHT MEGATRON IT MAKES SO SICK . Okay for context Megatron was temporarily dead (or out of commission. either way his ass was gone ) and shockwave was like. making him a new body. and in the meantime starscream was leading the cons, which in theory sounds great for her, right? NO megatron had made her such a joke over the years by treating her as unserious and beating the shit out of her in front of them that they all lost respect for her, so literally NONE of them listen to her and just. since they're stranded on an asteroid, they start eating each other for energon. very fun stuff.

anyways thats the context in spotlight megatron its about when he comes back after this and dude its so fucking bad for starscream it makes me sick the entire issue is megatron just being fucking horrible to her. literally for starscreams end of things it started with her being depressed as fuck in the main room and megatron being a little bitch and she's like "i know you're here to beat the shit out of me and mock me just get on with it" and she LITERALLY GRABS HIS ARM CANON AND POINTS IT AT HER LIKE JUST DO IT I KNOW YOU WILL. And all Megatron is thinking is "oh she's already depressed this isn't gonna be fun at all :/" LIKE HELLO WHAT THE FUCK MAN. AND PROCEEDS TO JUST VERBALLY BERATE HER. FOLLOWED BY THIS PANEL LIKE CAN I FUCKING HELP YOU

Like it's just so fucking bad he's literally trying to gode her into fighting him back or saying something nasty or anything cause he doesn't think it's fun when she's just miserable like hello !!!! and she's so miserable that she's just like at this point i fucking hope you do kill me. and he's like oh well if you really wanted to die you would've fought back what you CLEARLY want is punishment so let me beat the shit out of you. and I use this part in my pinned graphic but eaugaugehaahgahgah i'm ill im ill im sick

and of course at the end of all this fucking shit he's like you're welcome and you can work on repaying me for teaching you this valuable lesson. i'm punching a wall the entire issues so fucked up it's just a mental saw trap for starscream from megatron that ends in her getting beat an inch from her life. yay!! so fun!!!!!

[scribe-of-hael]

Guys the way Starscream looks if he wasn't Cold Constructed - God make say heart hurt. This is what he could have been but I also Love Starscream as he is. But the inner conflict of what he COULD have been, what he SHOULD be but can't be.

HELP

He's is such a BIG BOY dear God and look at his purple optics-

baby star i love you no matter what you look like CRYS

[cosmics-beings]

What do you think of Starscream's true form?

Oooh so I do like his true form, and i actually like the color scheme, but i also think in a funny way , if he did get his true form, he would go back to changing it or at least, modifying it?

I think it's something he desires because it's something he ultimately gets to choose, but then i think he would also choose, per starscream's personality, to change and modify it.

[ask-physalia-prime]

2 Things I Gotta Point Out

Doesn't say a single word when Optimus lists his crimes, then when he finishes, just stands up and waits for whatever punishment Optimus deems fit.

You can see it all over his face. He KNOWS everything Optimus just said was true.

We know Optimus dropped his mask so Megatron knows he was speaking as Orion, and coupled with the tear stains, Megatron was convinced Orion was still in there somewhere.

So he faces him head on, fully prepared for anything EXCEPT banishment.

The faded optics say it all: This thing standing in front of him wearing his best friends face is not Orion Pax. He died when Megatron killed him, and the thing he just destroyed Cybertron to get rid of just told him to leave and not come back.

The second thing is the pause right after Optimus says this.

It only lasts about 3 seconds, but it's enough to make clear what Optimus ISN’T saying, "It STILL doesn't have to be this way."

He's hanging by a thread, BEGGING Megatron to fight back, to argue, anything but what he actually does.

And even faced with that being the last thing he hears Megatron say before the war breaks out, he STILL does this.

If not blowing Starscreams face off with a fusion cannon is Megatron's form of mercy?

This is Optimus'.

Even after everything, he REFUSES to compromise what he's been fighting for: the right to autonomy for all Cybertronians, even the one that killed him.

[mossyscavern]

Not spies, just a bit incompetent

Part 2

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“… what?”

Bee squeaked, breaking the silence before tapping soundwave’s shoulder pad to whisper in his audible. “What is starscream talking about?” He asked, the blue bot turned and whispered back. “Conclusion: We believed you’ve possibly been captured.”

Soundwave answered, as starscream gave his speech to both the high guard and prisoners.

“… no, i wasn’t captured, they found me. I lived in sub-level 50 back at Iacon.” He told the mech, shrugging his shoulder pads before kicking his peds back and forth.

“Question: who had ‘found’ you?” Soundwave asked and bee pointed to both the blue helmed mech with the red chassis and the silver mech. “They did before we found the map and got our T-cog’s from alpha trion.”

… this concerned Soundwave to the point he scanned bee’s electrical impulses. Every word he said is true.. even the T-cog part is true. “Primus what had sentinel done to you?” Shockwave chimed in, just as concerned as Soundwave.

All before starscream had yelled. “Hey! What are you doing?!” Starscream yelled. ‘Aww, we missed the whole speech.’ Bee thought, pouting.

Then it changed to concern, seeing that D-16 is the one that stood up. “Doing what you’re not.” He first says, turning to the winged mech.

“I’m going out there to make an actual difference. I found out that Sentinel is rotten and I’m going to make him pay, today!” D-16 yelled, fury on his faceplate. “You think you can just insult me and walk away?”

Starscream questions, walking up close to the silver mech. “Nobody leaves unless I say so.” He threatens, invading his space. “Is that so?” D laughs mirthlessly, licking his denta.

“Well how can you say that? With my head in your teeth.”

He says, rearing back and knock his helm full force into Starscream’s. The winged mech stumbles, caught off guard as sparks fly. “Dee!” He hears Orion scream, but doesn’t pay much mind to it, he has optics on his opponent.

Starscream was about to fly kick right at D-16’s head, but the mech caught it, resulting a face full of plasma from the heel Strut.

It was all happening too fast for bee, that and the amount of times soundwave tries to shield bee from the violence, but bee has to see if D is alright. From the looks of it he was about to lose..

Everything became quiet when bee finally struggles out of soundwave’s arms, looks up and saw that D has the upper hand, and he looks… terrifying, scary even, with that huge canon pressed against starscream’s face on his forearm…

“Dee!” Bee shouts, desperate. D-16 stopped, his features softened and he looked up, blue meeting orange.. were they orange?

Immediately he let starscream go, went and knelt down, arms stretched out to bee. Shockwave stepped forward before being stopped by Soundwave, letting the young spark approach and the silver mech hug. “You ok bee?” He asks.

“Uh huh, but… that was really scary.” Bee mumbled, burying his helm in D’s chassis. “it’s okay.. it’s okay.” He says, hugging bee tight to ground both of them.. but mostly himself, he needed this.. both of them needed this.

Before anything, he asks bee to go back to Orion and elita and cover his audibles. Once he does the tasks he shouts to the high guard, loud and clear.

“Bear witness! This is the only time I show mercy to those who play king of thrones! Decide now: You can stay here in hiding, bowing before your pathetic leader, or follow me as we march to Iacon and take down sentinel! Once and for all!”

The high guard cheered, chanting his name loudly. Orion stares back at his friend, the voices and chanting fades in quiet as he stares more.

He turned back to bee audibles still covered like how d-16 instructed.

Orion felt like he was about to loose D… but bee had kept him grounded.. sparkling’s keep them grounded.. it’s a reason to fight for.

The distant chanting didn’t last very long as there was a sudden explosion and laserfire. “Bee hold on!” Orion yells, transforms into vehicle form to get bee to safety.

They can make it! They have to make it…

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Ok, part 2 is done. It’s a bit sloppy but, eh.. I just wanted it to be finished.

So yeah.. part 2 is done! Forever. And for those who hadn’t seen part 1 yet, don’t worry I’ll just direct you to it.

(Prev) <- it’s here, right there… I hope you all enjoy. If uh… you want to hear the aftermath? Go here -> (aftermath) @yuukirita drew/wrote it best… I’m sorry.

[revelboo]

PLEASE MORE OF THE SEEKERS 🙏🙏🙏 either the trine or any of their individual stories please, your writing is so good. You're the first author I've ever set notification on for, you're literally the best ❤️

True Romance Pt 3

Seeker Trine x Reader

• Primus, he can hear you moving around again on his berth. About to turn his head, Starscream freezes when you move closer and curl against his arm, shivering. Cold? Annoyed, he lifts his arm and you gasp, trying to scramble away in the dark before he’s scooping you up and laying you on his chassis so you’ll be still, pressing his servos down against your spine to make you lay down flat. Venting tiredly when you finally stop trembling against him and relax, little nuisance. Warm and soft on his chassis, little heart racing.

• One of his big servos slides almost absently between your shoulder blades as you’re pinned to him. But he’s warm, shockingly so. The tension and anxiety melting out of you as you lay there, feeling a faint humming under you. Knowing you shouldn’t be able to relax, that you need to be plotting your escape, but you find yourself nodding off to the feel of that servo petting your back. Feeling safe despite yourself.

• Wings flaring lazily, Thundercracker lifts his head. Can hear Skywarp stirring and reluctantly rolls off of his berth to get ready for patrol. It’s the little sound from the human that draws his attention. Leaning over Starscream’s berth, he reaches for the little form sprawled on his brother’s chassis. Tips of his servo brushing your softness as he starts to lift you and then Star’s hand is on his arm. One optic squinting up at him, before letting go to allow him to scoop you up. You make an adorably sleepy sound, cheek laying on his servo as he gently taps against you to wake you up. Aware of Star sitting up, watching him. “Come on, little one.”

• Yawning as the blue one, Thundercracker, cups you to his warm chassis and wanders around the space the three share, you sleepily watch the other two getting out of their berths. “How often do you think humans eat?” Thundercracker asks and that at least breaks through your sleepiness. A faint hint of worry filling you at that question. Knowing you need to speak up, but your voice failing you when Skywarp glances at you.

• “It’s little, can’t eat much,” Skywarp mutters, stalking past and barely resisting the urge to reach out and touch the softness of your hair. Remembering how warm you felt in his servos, the feel of your heart beating against him. Wide eyes turn his way, looking up at him with uncanny intelligence. “Think it might try to get off the berth if we leave it?” And likely break its delicate little bones or neck. That thought twists about his spark unpleasantly.

• Hesitating to glance at you in Thundercracker’s hand, Starscream can’t deny the possibility. In your place, he’d try to escape. If you do get loose and into the halls, other Decepticons will find you. Likely crush you for fun. “Here,” he murmurs reaching out his cupped hands and staring Thundercracker down until his brother vents and hands you over. Opening a drawer on their desk, he lowers you inside, servos lingering as you cling to him, alarm on your face. Your little frightened ‘wait,’ making him stroke your arm. The drawer is at least deep enough you can’t climb out. Not easily anyway. “Give me the blankets,” he says, reaching as Skywarp hands them over and he arranges them into a nest for you. “If you try to climb out, little one, I’ll be very displeased,” he warns, using the tip of his servo to tilt your little face up to meet his optics. Needing to be sure you understand he’s serious.

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[startheskelaton]

I like how Bumblebee is with Megs and Elita in the "these suitor choices kinda suck actually" seat. Like one literally kidnapped Sparkplug and is somehow related to shockwave, and the other was literally an undercover agent who betrayed their trust and is also the son of the guy who kinda killed their dad. (Accidentally. Assuming that's still part of the au that is)

As the one who wound up being Prime it'd be weird if he didn't disapprove at least a little.

It’s very much a hard decision for him. He dose come around to them but it’s only after seeing the two go through their respective arcs.

With Shockblaster, he comes around to him once he realizes how normal he actually is. The both of them were stripped from the right to a normal childhood and now try and find some sense of normalcy with their newfound freedom. But are also faced with new responsibilities due to the death of a father figure. They actually bond over learning human movie language, both having an appreciation for film as a way to escape and understand themselves better.

With Nightflyer it’s more complicated. Bumblebee sees him as a new version of Starscream, a lier, a pretty boy, and a whining mess of a bot. He doesn’t form a bond with him like he dose with Soundblaster… he actually forms a bond with Slipstream. Both are seen as the babies of their families dispute having to be the emotional support for everyone, and both have to put on a fake happy smile in order to be accepted by the people they’re in charge of. It’s through Slipstream talking about her brother that Bee realizes the true colors of Nightflyer. And seeing him post rebirth that he feels okay with him being with Sparkplug.

[blueikeproductions]

So an interesting detail was revealed about the TFONE Quintessons.

It would appear, according to staff on the movie, that the ships are actually living, organic creatures.

By extension, going by their design similarities, the TFONE Quintessons are likely fully organic themselves.

Prior to the Quintus Prime origin, it was never clear where the Quintessons came from but their designs are clearly mechanical.

Japanese media would offer an explanation of sorts, in the Controverse manga.

In this story Primacron, the ancient sea monkey alien that created Unicron and later Tornedron in the G1 cartoon, would stake the claim that he created ALL mechanical life. When the Quintesson Judge calls this out, Primacron calmly responds that he created mechanical bacterial life once and surmises those creatures became the Quintesson race.

Further manga would reveal this is true, and go the extra mile by revealing Primus and Primacron were ancient beings that existed in the universe prior to the Big Bang (mirroring a similar idea in the Marvel comics).

Primacron was originally Primus’ pet, but as his intellect grew, and so did his ambitions, and once the old universe died and ours was born, Primacron would enslave his former master in what would become The Matrix of Leadership, and it would grant life to his mechanical creations, the Beast Mode Primitives, the Quintessons and Unicron.

It would appear most modern media opts go instead cast the Quintessons as organic creatures, created by Quintus Prime’s Emberstone, that pilot mechanical suits.

Cyberverse’s take on the Judges also goes an extra mile, similar to Primacron, revealing that these Quintessons are born by fusing five distinct lifeforms together, all chosen to judge a universe accordingly. This is depicted by using Starscream as the dominant component….

But unlike the wholly mechanical Judge seen before, Starscream’s Judge form has organic components, with other organic races in the Greys and Velgrox.

While there’s an argument the G1 Quints might be biomechanical, it’s never been clearly defined with Cyberverse Quint Starscream more plainly leaning in that direction.

As for the organic technology present among the TFONE Quints, that potentially has two origins.

The more famous one are the Trans-Organics, the prototype race the Quintessons developed before making the Consumer Goods and Military Hardware robots that would become The Transformers.

A cyborg like race of primitive animals, they were unable to accomplish basic tasks, and gave into their beast like savagery, destroying several Quints before they were sealed away deep within Cybertron.

In the modern era, a group of Quintessons opted to free their ancient beasts of burden, tricking Galvatron into unleashing them so that the Trans-Organics may destroy the Transformers, allowing the Quints to reclaim Cybertron. Inevitability this fails, with the Quints done in by the Dweller beast, an energy vampire worm Trans-Organic.

The Dweller is the most famous one, and spawned other counterparts seen in Cyberverse and EarthSpark, with the EarthSpark versions being a race native to Quintessa, typing it back to its origins.

The second inspiration, if potentially coincidental, could be GI Joe’s Cobra-La.

The GI Joe movie would reveal Cobra had its origins in Cobra-La, an ancient race of snake people that were the original dominant species of Earth before us mammalian humans evolved.

Cobra Commander is native to Cobra-La, originally being a snake man scientist who became mutated in a lab accident before becoming leader of the snake themed terrorist organization that’d slither into America.

He’s further mutated as punishment for his failure in taking over the world in Cobra-La’s name, slow mutating into a cobra.

While the DiC sequel series would see him restored, albeit still as a mutant snake man.

Presumably CC’s still a snake dude when he briefly menaces in the G1 Movie era Autobots as Old Snake.

Anyhow, the relevance to the Cobra-Laians and Quintessons, is the former use organic based technology. Basically, this means they create specially developed animals to use in place of tools, bridges & vehicles.

@bogleech’s own post on Cobra-La discusses other examples of their technology: https://bogleech.com/cobrala

In the GI Joe film, the Cobra-La people are disgusted by humanity’s use of inorganic machinery, and opt to eradicate humans and reclaim the land that was theirs prior to the Ice Age.

In the Energon Universe, this prejudice exists still for humans, as Cobra Commander is instead a human that lives in their ranks, but they’re more offended by the existence of the Transformers after CC’s science team dug out a frozen Megatron to study him.

Aghast at a cold, mechanical planet populated by giant metallic robots, Cobra-La sends Pythona aboard a space fairing … whatever this fella is…

… to Cybertron to nip this so called invasion in the bud.

It would appear she takes a semi unintentional detour, dealing with matters in the Void Rivals series first, where she’s set to battle the Skuxxoid in particular. (I’d laugh if she became the wife he constantly talks about.)

The Quints and Cobra-La sharing the concept of organic technology is honestly very interesting, and while I do think it was created independently of GI Joe, should more TFONE content be made and the Transformers and Quintessons go to Earth, a further connection to Cobra-La would be really cool.

It’s theorized in the Energon Universe that the Quintessons could’ve created or at least influenced the Cobra-La people, and such an idea isn’t unheard of, as the Zertonians and Agorrians of Void Rivals are revealed to be descendants of Transformers via a new character called Zerta Trion. It’s implied but not yet totally confirmed the Quintessons created the Transformers also via the G1 cartoon as well, and I just think it’d be hilarious if the proud, organic Cobra-La people would discover they’re related to the fully mechanical Transformers via the Quintessons and be utterly mortified. (I don’t think they’d like their Zertonian/Agorrian cousins much either since, despite being organic they have technology based Energon ports on their heads.)

Incidentally it feeds into a personal headcanon regarding EarthSpark, since MARS Industries exists here, that Quintus Prime used the Emberstone to seed life on Earth that would one day evolve into Cobra-La, making them relatives to the Terrans, Quintessons, and Lithonians (the later because Quintus reminds me of Kranix for some reason).

[lockheed-martin-unofficial]

Thinking about Altmodes.

The fact that cybertronians even have the ability to “scan” vehicles (created by other alien species) tells me that they’ve always not only been aware of other intelligent species, but also possibly interacted with them. They were designed to interact with them that way, assuming scanning was an ability Primus gave them and not an extra gadget they added into their frames afterwards (Which is also an interesting concept) But maybe that interaction only went one way.

Taking the catchphrase Robots In Disguise™️ seriously, it is easy to imagine cybertronians being a horror story for other species. Aliens that hide in plain sight, lying in wait. Indistinguishable from the very vehicles you use to travel around. Would you trust your car, be sure it wasn’t replaced? Cybertronians would be TERRIFYING if they wanted to conquer your planet from the shadows.

On another note, I like to imagine there’s More Than Meets The Eye™️ to scanning altmodes. It’s not just to hide. Take TFP for an example. Neither Airachnid nor Dreadwing/Skyquake transformed before scanning an altmode even though they were in situations where doing so would have greatly helped them. This was probably an animation thing, the people making the show not having the time and budget to design two seperate altmodes for the characters.

However, if we read into it, I think it’d make sense that the true reason they scan earth-based altmodes is that their cybertronian altmodes are not fully compatible with earth. Or at least they don’t know how compatible they would be so instead of risking they wait to scan an earth-based form. Especially when it comes to flyers. The atmosphere, the gases in it, the gravity, all work a whole lot differently on other planets. It’s more advantageous to become something that was built to maneuver on this planet, than trying your chances with your cybertronian altmode and seeing how it fares in this unfamiliar environment, while also in the middle of a battle.

The Autobots specifically mention to Wheeljack and Smokescreen that they needed an earth-based altmode for disguise purposes, so we know they could have probably transformed this entire time but simply chose not to out of convenience.

They would probably not be able to go back to their earth-based altmodes again without scanning if they reverted to their cybertronian ones, which is why they don’t when they go to Cybertron. I also imagine the process of un-scanning an altmode (dunno what else to call that) would take a while, so if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

In episode where Arcee and Jack go to Cybertron, she’s gonna come back in a few hours so why would she go through the trouble? In the movie, they don’t really have a reason/motivation to do so. The Autobots probably want a reminder of Earth, Decepticons like Shockwave and Megatron already have cybertronian altmodes. I don’t think we see Knockout transform but he’s always been very vocal about how pretty he is as a car so he probably kept his altmode as well.

That leaves only Starscream to be explained, and my personal headcanon is that he secretly grew to like human-made aircraft. Although it would’ve been cool to see him as a cybertronian jet in the movie, the movie scriptwriters didn’t really care about Starscream anyway.

In my AU the earthplane enjoyment is in part due to him bonding with Nicole and pitying all the trouble humans have to go through to achieve what comes to him naturally.