#star wars viewing order

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This person in Sideways' Discord server made this chart

[ID: A Star Wars viewing order alignment chart

Lawful good: release order Neutral good: chronological order Chaotic good: Chronological order with the Clone Wars Neutral good: Release order with Rogue One first True neutral: Chronological order with all TV shows Chaotic neutral: Machete order Lawful evil: Parallel order Neutral evil: Sequels first Chaotic evil: reversed order

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[gffa]

LET ME YELL ABOUT WHY I LOVED THIS MOMENT from Star Wars: From a Certain Point of View: Return of the Jedi | "Brotherhood". I have long argued that the "Jedi Code" is more of a meditation mantra, because almost every single time it comes up in supplementary material (it doesn't exist in the movies or TCW) it's used during a moment when a Jedi is trying to calm themselves down or meditate in the Force. And I have long argued that I don't think it's a literal guideline for how to live their lives, but instead a description of the Force. Because the prequels Jedi taught two different versions of the "Jedi Code": There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is the Force. Emotion, yet peace. Ignorance, yet knowledge. Passion, yet serenity. Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force. The second is from the Kanan comic, where Depa is leading a meditation with the younglings, while Obi-Wan and Mace and Yoda watch over them. So, if both of these versions are taught by the prequels Jedi, how can they both be applicable? Because they're not describing Jedi--they're describing the Force. They're describing what it's like to interact with the Force. That's why they use it as a meditation mantra! The Force itself has no emotion, it has no ignorance, it has peace. The Force has no passion, it has serenity. The Force has no chaos, it has harmony/ The Force has no death, it is the Force. Yet, when a Jedi interacts with it, they have emotion but they seek peace. They have ignorance yet they seek knowledge. They have passion yet they seek serenity. They have chaos yet they seek harmony. They have death yet they seek the Force, they become one with it when they die. Then this short story is about Anakin becoming one with the Force when he dies-- A warmth without temperature. An embrace without touch. A belonging despite isolation. A quiet that revealed. It's so evocative of the Jedi's description of the way they interact with the Force via the "Jedi Code"! It's the Force versus what you're bringing to the Force, it's about what a Jedi seeks in the Force--Anakin has no temperature, but he seeks warmth. Anakin has no touch, but he seeks an embrace. Anakin has isolation, but he seeks belonging. There is quiet in the Force. This is what the Force is, this is how the Jedi interact with it, they bring their own experiences to it and work to shed those things to find what they need in the Force, this is why the "Jedi Code" is structured the way it is and Anakin experiences that exact same thing when he steps into it. And I am legit emotional because I think of how much comfort and warmth and clarity the Force can bring when you let it move through you, when you let it embrace you, rather than trying to dominate it.

[winged-muse]

Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order | Zeffo

[laughhardrunfastbekindsblog]

Fives: "There's a lot you don't know about clones. No one knows."

Driver: "Oooh, very mysterious. I like a good mystery."

Fives:

"You ever hear the one about the people engineered to kill?"

"Engineered to kill their best friends?"

"Their leaders?"

"And they don't even know it?"

[sherlockholmeshound]

whenever ppl try to come up with some version of 'romance and love isn't forbidden by the jedi, on this one novel-'

i'm just...

[underwaterspiderbird]

[thislightsaberkillsfascists]

Pro Jedi in that I'm pro Jedi being little freaks who fuck up big-time

[pumpkinrootbeer]

i really do think the systematic execution of the jedi has kinda sorta ruined all future star wars media for in the sense that i am always going to be thinking about the space empath monks who were genocided. there used to be thousands of them and now there's like. 7. functionally an entire culture dead. they can show me all the grogus in the world, im always going to think about how they had to step over the dead babies.

[asocial-skye]

nothing is funnier to me than anti-anakin fans who posit him as this great, inhumane thing that derives pleasure in murder and drinking the blood of the dead children he cut up. vader's evil is like the blandest shit in existence, and he's a lot more scarier in that view.

[redstuffs-ig]

star wars fans when a show doesn't lick the jedi's boots a new shine: 🤯

star wars fans when a show doesn't beat the shit out of the jedi with lead pipes: 🤯

[circle-around-again]

I believe that D9 is sentient.

Sidious is already recorded as deliberately programming the battle droids to feel pain. I believe he does acknowledge droid sentience and fosters it, if only to sadistically torture the creature. In fact, one could say his greatest little droid box that he likes to torment is his prized final apprentice.

Now, despite the fact that droid sentience is relatively canon, Star Wars has a bad habit of also believing that the droids are disposable. Maul as well. He is a monster in the little kids show, and that makes him by default a non-entity.

If she is sentient, then they can both be characters on that knife's edge; treated by all as if they are a thing, because the sanctity of their personhood is offered to the viewer as negotiable.

[gffa]

"Because the Jedi were like stars. I've never seen a star, but I've been told they're out there. No matter how dark my night gets, they're still there, burning, making someone's way lighter. That's why I did it... because it's what a Jedi would do." THE JEDI WERE LIKE STARS. NO MATTER HOW DARK THE NIGHT GETS, THEY'RE STILL THERE, BURNING, LIGHTING THE WAY. COOL, OKAY, I'M GONNA GO FLING MYSELF INTO THE OCEAN AND SINK INTO THE DEPTHS BECAUSE I'M TOO EMOTIONAL FOR THIS. (Star Wars: From a Certain Point of View: Return of the Jedi: "The Veteran")

[anghraine]

Quality Pain - watching ROTS and then Rogue One

I received this years ago but missed it somehow, and was just going through asks today—but my best friend and I actually did this last year and going from the end of ROTS (my favorite, for a Suffering value of favorite, part of the PT) through RO was extremely quality pain. I was like, "okay but now we have to watch Return of the Jedi."

[apesoformythoughts]

Part One/Two:

"Look, you and I may hate it, and you may not want to hear it, but what Rian Johnson did with Luke in Episode VIII did to a large extent make sense of what J.J. set up in VII, despite that it may not fit with the Luke from the Original Trilogy."

[askshivanulegacy]

Except they're not all wrong and they're not "paid fanfiction." They were written with Lucas' approval and they developed the Star Wars universe in a dry spell that lasted years. The only reason they're claimed to be "not canon" now is only because of the decision Disney made ... and that was after it passed out of Lucas' hands. He never claimed any such thing. So as far as Lucas is concerned, they're as canon as anything else.

And it's true that at the same time there are story points that conflict. All that means is that you get to explore how they might or might not still fit with other pieces of the universe, such as the movies, and which pieces you think make more sense.

There is no hard core "this is wrong" statement that you can apply to published material. The EU books are just as valid as anything else. The Star Wars universe is NOT just the movies, whether anyone likes it or not. It's a bad faith move to blockade off totally valid discussion points just because you want to gatekeep the fandom. The books exist, people read them and like them, and they get to talk about them, and no one is capable of undermining that. You don't get to invalidate real SW resources just because you don't like the conclusions some people make from them.

At the point that you want to keep your headcanons informed only by the movies, that is certainly a choice you can make. But in the wider fandom, people can and do use all the material available to them. And they will have different opinions. You don't have to like them, but there's also nothing you can do to wipe them out or to somehow magically trump them because you like your resources better than theirs.

If you don't want to see those points come up in discussions then don't have those discussions. Or frame the discussion properly up front, and it can be a fun little exercise to only consider the movies.

This is just how fandom works.

I really dislike it when anti-Jedi and Jedi-critical crowd uses EU books as a prove for their points. Why they’re all wrong:

a) The books were written by various people who didn’t consult George Lucas about what they’re going to write. Everyone understood SW as they did. When an original author has never claimed such art as canon and actually refused it – this is a definition of fanfiction, isn’t it? Paid, yes, but fanfiction nonetheless.

b) Most of these books were created way before PT. They didn’t know about the Jedi things what we know now. It becomes quite hypocritical – I mean, in the EU the clones were enemies, not allies, but somehow I don’t see any claims ‘but the clones are enemies! The EU says so!���. Even in Karen Traviss books not all the clones have a personality, but we all ignore it now, aren’t we? She wrote her books before the TCW, not knowing how the series would spin the story. So EU retcon works for the clones, but not for the Jedi?

[batuurebel]

The Star Wars fandom doesn’t talk enough about how terrifying Order 66 must be from the point of view of the clones.

You spend 3 years fighting side by side with someone, in some cases becoming as close as family, only to have your individuality ripped from you and basically turned into a machine. We don’t have enough stories about how the clones felt after Order 66 was executed and they eliminated their Jedi. Rex visibly shakes and tries to stop himself after Palpatine sends the message. Did the ones who never had the control chip removed ever think about their Jedi? If they do, did they think of them fondly? Or were their memories or opinions of them altered by the control chip? Did the clones ever live to regret what they had done?