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sam + sam?
#sam winchester#spn 1x01#spn 2x14#spn 2x20#spn 4x06#spn 4x17#spn 5x04#spn 5x12#spn 6x13#spn 6x22#spn 7x06#spn 9x09#spn 14x13#spn 14x15#spn 15x04#spn 15x13#s1#s2#s4#s5#s6#s7#s9#s14#s15
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@altarofrowena‘s 2k Follower Celebration - Day 3: chuck won truthing ↳ 15.04 | 15.20
#altarof2k#spn#supernatural#spn 15x04#spn 15x20#parallels#chuck shurley#becky rosen#dean winchester#sam winchester#spnedit#spndaily#my stuff#myspn#spncreatorsdaily#cowboycoven#scottstiles#tuserpris#tuserjord#useranny#deanncastiel#useralison#dean's death tw
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babygirl...
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#spn#spn 8x18#krissy chambers#josephine barnes#aidan spn#supernatural#spn text post#not natural#spn 13x21#gabriel spn#rowena macleod#spn 5x19#spn 15x04#spn 15x01#belphegor#spn lebanon#spn 14x13#lebanon#claire novak#kaia nieves#dreamhunter#jack kline
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this episode is also SUCH a jab at networks and interference from higher ups. the original writer is PISSED that they completely changed his story. then there's all the little jabs from the network exec giving "notes" like "the scenes are too dark can't we brighten them up" "sir this is a horror movie" and the exec not understanding the "rules" and "logic" of the supernatural lore and having them put "explainers" in the dialogue. this is a creative team saying FUCK YOU to the network and it's only season 2. which just makes me think of chuck in s15 portrayed not as a mere writer anymore but as an executive canceling shows bc they won't follow his "notes" as well...it's very loud. and you can say what you will abt the season finale and s15 as a whole and i don't like how it ends either but...everything chuck says to becky...the way chuck is portrayed the entire season...and the fact that the creative team have been fighting (and calling out) the network since so early on it paints a pretty clear picture to me that whatever ending they may have wanted was never going to happen bc of network interference. so they planted those seeds throughout s15 to be like "hey......this is going to be the bad ending. but the network is going to try to spin it as a good ending. but it's not. remember what becky says."
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Dean Winchester every day -- 310/326
Supernatural 15x04//Atomic Monsters
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in the final stretch of spn! just finished 15.04 and oh my goddd dude. showing sam’s struggle with depression, him saying “sometimes it feels like i can’t breathe”, AND HIM SAYING “maybe i’ll feel better in the morning” ???????? it’s just so real. you can say what you will about s15 but sam’s mental health struggle was portrayed really well
#also not to mention it’s SAM so it’s jarpad and HIS struggles with depression 🥹#wraith watches spn#supernatural#spn#sam winchester#spn 15x04#atomic monsters#jared padalecki#i can’t imagine what it was like to play a character for 15 years and feel like that character is yourself#and then pour your own emotions and struggles into your performance because the character is you and you are him and you relate to him#after all this time in his shoes#somebody sedate me
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Becky Rosen-Baron, MIA.
Becky's "death" + Dean's side of the fireplace mantel
Becky loses her husband, then her "junior" and daughter...and then she herself dies. Just like Dean.
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The two sides of the mantel:
Ahh, the mantel, nestled as the hearth of home. Hearths are associated with home and family because the hearth was historically the main source of heat in the home, as well as where the cooking was done.
The left side is Chuck's side, black chess pieces. Sam is driving the car with TFW safely confined to the roadhouse at the end. The monster hand is pointed away from Sam.
The right is Becky's side: white pieces, glass half-fall.
It's also Dean's side, with Dean driving the car and heading towards Cas and "mini Cas," plus a family portrait showing what Cas and "mini Cas" are to Dean. The monster's hand is reaching for Dean's side, as Dean-action-hero figure frantically fights against it.
Awww. the cute little family picture with Rod Baron, Rod Jr, their daughter, and Becky Rosen, which also foreshadows the order of the losses (hub dies first in the form of Cas and finale-dad).
This is right next to...Dean in a car, Cas, and a "mini Cas." (Becky doesn't know about Jack.)
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Other suspicious details: Dean prime is in the car driving towards Cas in front of a reddish Hellscape.
Alternatively, the photo behind Cas bears some resemblance to a blossom, like the Leviathan blossom he was searching for, crazed, as he rushed through the lands of Purgatory on the verge of losing Cas. They even look like they could be two blossoms straining towards one another. Who knows? It could be a famous fanart I'm just not familiar with.
Anyhoo, both Cas and "junior/little" Cas are turned away from Dean.
This is a nod to Dean...without? Bereft. A la The Winchesters companion series. Here's Dean's ending. Limbo. Wandering. Searching for a happy family he doesn't have.
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If the more-discussed left side was Sam's ending, then the less-discussed right side is Dean in The Winchesters. It's the head side versus the heart side.
And the heart ending, which we sort of get from The Winchesters is a wandering, driving Dean, looking for this nebulous happiness he can't seem to find without Cas and..."mini Cas/Cas junior" Jack.
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Becky was "doing great"
But Becky's life is so cute, y'all. That hub is adorbs.
ROD: "We'll be fine, babe...it's just Lake Michigan. Hardly any chop!"
Famous last words, Rod. You don't know that it's you who is going to mishandle that "Michigan chop."
Becky/Rod - But OMG can we just take a minute? They LIKE each other. They tease each other. They know the motion sickness comes from him, probably. And he knows she's gonna be nerding out during her relaxing weekend (that's part of the point of getting away--to let her have that time).
AAaaaaaahhhhhHHHHhhhhh.
Rod knows about Becky's writing and her superfan status (hard to miss in her office hehe) and loves her for it. And it's just so damn cute.
BECKY: Four hours in a boat? Rod, Junior gets seasick in the tub. ROD: Where would I be without you? BECKY: Covered in puke. [BECKY taps on the window.] Have fun, sweeties! JUNIOR: Thanks, Mom, we will. [ROD and BECKY kiss.] ROD: (fondly)Wow. Felt that. You can’t wait to have the house to yourself. BECKY: (flirtatiously) Oh, you have no idea.
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Along comes Chuck, the metaphorical stop sign to Becky's life; her "off-screen murderer"
Chuck sees her big house and her van and her fam and notes sees that she's doing "great" for herself. She doesn't know it yet but he is the end of her life--he even appears in front of a stop sign!
BONUS: Becky's wearing the gray duster/caretaker warrior/hearth of house/"dead guy robe!"
Instinctively, she runs. See, even with their baggage, Becky's already got a bad feeling, "Well I don't need or want to see you."
So naturally, he worms his way in.
CHUCK: I’m sorry, I… I know we’re not together anymore, and it seems like you’re doing great. I just – I… I wanted to talk. Catch up. It’s been a rough couple of weeks. BECKY: That’s not my problem. [She turns to walk into the house.] CHUCK: Wait, Becky, please. I don’t have anywhere else to go.
So then, after denigrating her POV:
BECKY: I’m a writer, too, Chuck. CHUCK: Oh. I mean, fanfic… it’s not really the same thing… BECKY: Writing’s writing. The self-sabotage, the doubts, the struggle against time. So, whenever I have a spare minute, I write.
He steals.
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He will wind up taking everything
First, he steals her rosy little laptop with her cute little rose decal-skin and the rose keyboard cover and he even puts on HER GLASSES:
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Then, clever girl that she is, she fakes liking it to try to get him to leave! The LYING motif. "It's so good! I loved it....it's so good I'd love to get back to my own work."
CHUCK: "No...no no. You're shining me on. ...Come on, one note."
Then Becky makes her fatal misstep
She gives concrit, which is what Chuck said he wanted but not what he actually wanted. Just look at this face. Becky's starting to feel that...wrongness.
Something's off.
It's the same subtle change--that same whiplash we saw when he cruelly turned on Metatron in the diner.
After he writes his hopeless ending on her computer, and she lets her criticism rip. He sadistically enjoys her discomfort. He's sticking it to her, with her love of laundry and conversations and banter, which will appear in the terrible finale. Then, he says this:
[BECKY walks but turns to CHUCK.] BECKY: You have to leave. CHUCK: Nah, I kinda like it here.
He took a crap on her computer, wore her glasses, sat in her seat...now he's taking her office. Her house.
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Chuck takes all
[ROD enters the living room.] ROD: Babe, you wouldn’t believe what happened.
JJLKgj! Aw, Rod. He cannot wait to tell her that he's the one that wound up puking. KJALGJAGH get you a man like that!
Then he kills Rod right in front of her.
[BECKY looks at CHUCK.] BECKY: Please. ROD: Junior was fine, but I puked everywhere. [ROD walks in and sees CHUCK. He looks at BECKY, confused.] ROD: Babe? CHUCK: Hey. [CHUCK snaps his fingers. ROD disappears in a puff of dust.] BECKY: (screams) Rod?! What happened? Where is he? CHUCK: He’s gone. BECKY: What?!
Her children enter next; we can only hear them off-screen. Rod Jr. can't wait to tell her about the puke incident either. They just know she'll love it.
Chuck will take Rod right in front of Becky's eyes, but her children will die off-screen. "Away."
[ROD JR. enters.] ROD JR.: Hey, mom! We’re back! Dad got sick! He threw up all over the side – [CHUCK snaps his fingers again. The kids disappear.] BECKY: (gasping for air, on a whisper) No! (shudders) The kids. CHUCK: Oh, don’t worry. They’re not dead. They’re just away. [BECKY turns back to CHUCK.] CHUCK: Oh, yeah. I’m God. [BECKY looks horrified.] BECKY: What are you… No. You bring them back. You bring them back! [CHUCK smiles.] BECKY: Please…you can’t do this.
It echoes both Dean pleading with God in 13x01, "Now, you're gonna bring them back," and his 15x18 "Don't do this, Cas." Yeup. Becky is now bereft. Without. Rod's gone, like Cas will soon be gone.
CHUCK: Oh, Becky. I can do anything. [CHUCK steps closer to BECKY. He snaps his fingers. She disappears in a puff of dust.]
Becky faces him defiantly but quickly unravels into grief. "You bring them back...please."
And then he kills Becky.
And here we have these "withouts" culminating. The fun motifs about having the house to yourself end with a cheeky disappearance of the things Becky loves the most. It's cruel. She'd been trying to help Chuck, and he did not show the slightest glimmer of gratitude once her "fluffing" ceased.
And then she herself is gone.
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It makes you think of this too from 15x18:
DEAN: "She's gonna kill you. And then she's gonna kill me."
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Girls named Becky take things and break things?
In 13x01, the angel Miram ranted and raved about the specter-like example of a "super bitch named Becky."
This Becky would "take things and break things."
But the funny thing is...here? As Chuck settles into her office and takes her house…
He's the one taking and breaking. He stole everything from her the same way he tried to wrap himself up in Dean's gray MoL robe.
Just 'cause he can.
#shal meta#chuck shurley#spn finale#cw spn finale#cw dean's death#mcd#spn atomic monsters#spn 15x04#spn season 15#becky rosen#rod baron#the rosen-baron family#spnwin#spnwin adjacent
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If you think Chuck lost I don’t even know what to say to you you just need to go watch Atomic Monsters again and hear Becky’s description of the ending now that you know what happened.
#chuck won theory#chuck won#chuck won truthing#spn finale#atomic monsters#spn 15x04#sam winchester#dean winchester#chuck (god)
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NO WAY THEY PUT RADIO COMPANY IN THIS EPISODE THATS FUCKING AWESOME
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It's insane how Atomic Monsters is about parents protecting their child and refusing to let go until learning that it's for the better and most importantly that they have to respect their child's wish. And then parallel to it you have Chuck mocking Becky, refusing to let his characters be free, and being the absolute opposite of the parents who actually love their child and accept their child's agency... yeah, that's the good stuff
#thoughts#spn 15x04#spn#supernatural#cannot believe I am making posts about this in 2024#spn meta#I guess#meta#season 15#s15e04
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yk still thinking about the no one even mentions cas in 15x04. It's like,, they said multiple times that that was a shitty ending LIVE
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radio company jumpscare in 15x04
#was not expecting that#I took me a sec to realize WHY I recognized it so well when it started playing#its a little embarrassing to recognize a radio company so immediately HELP#supernatural#spn#spn 15x04#my posts
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Jensen directing himself eating a hotdog
DEAN WINCHESTER in one random episode per day ‣ 2/327 15.04 ATOMIC MONSTERS
#supernatural#dean winchester#spn#supernatural dean#spn 15x04#director Jensen#Dean loves him some creature comforts#Street meat
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The radical notion of self-acceptance. It's so difficult to hang onto!
14x13 / 15x04
JOHN: I guess that I had hoped, eventually, you would… get yourself a normal life, a peaceful life, a family. [DEAN nods. He smiles.] DEAN: I have a family. ... DEAN: And for the longest time, I blamed Dad...But I gotta be honest – I don’t know who that Dean Winchester is. And I’m good with who I am.
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BECKY: Well, sorry, that’s not me anymore, Chuck. I am married to an amazing man, I have two great kids, and I like myself, Chuck. For the first time in a long time, I like myself. So, I don’t need you.
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