#spn 12x06

[shirtlesssammy]

Dean Winchester every day -- 247/326

Supernatural 12x06//Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox

[arcanespillo]

[lazarrusrising]

Not only did John force his kids into the hunting life, made it Dean's gospel and Sam's cage, but he isolated them even in that life. Time and time again we've seen little glimpses of hunter culture, the Roadhouse, Bobby's phone set up, the funeral of Asa Fox, we see that it is a community, there is connection. But we also see Sam and Dean coming in as outsiders, maybe not with Bobby, but certainly with other hunters. They weren't allowed community because John couldn't play nice, because John got people killed on the job, because John couldn't let them have it without loosening his grip and all that man knew after Mary died was control. He needed to control them and to do that he needed to be everything to them, their father, their commander. And the little community they got was all vetted through him, soldier types. Bobby slipped through the cracks because he was useful, because at face value, he was like John. Alone and bitter and jaded. Thank fucking god John couldn't see past that exterior or Sam and Dean would never have known what a father's love was supposed to look like. John Winchester my fucking beloathed.

[spn-rewatch-ventzone]

So fucked up to know how this show ends and watch Dean talk about being “okay with dying on the job” in 12x06

[silver-stake-through-the-heart]

The thing about Dean's lack of funeral in 15x20 is that there's a whole episode dedicated to a hunter's funeral in season 12, six episodes after Dean said what he wanted for his own funeral.

I'll be honest. I find utterly disgusting the underlying message when you compare Asa Fox's and Dean's situations:

Let's celebrate the life of a man who chose to hunt.

Let's forget about the child who was forced into hunting and never got out.

[fandom-hoarder]

Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox:

Asa's mom: Who are you?

Mary: I'm Mary Winchester

Asa's Mom: No. You can't be. You'd be MY age!

...

Me: *consults google* Sam Smith was born in '69, Laurie Paton was born in '61... (Mary Winchester born in '54, Asa's mom probably similar)

Ok, so we ARE supposed to imagine her younger??? 30 y/o Mary

[dowagerqueenofhell]

12x06

Mary Winchester in the wind so the boys go to their second mom, Jody Mills, to watch a chick flick

[shallowseeker]

Jody: Huh. Is that why you spent the entire ride up here telling me in extreme, excruciating detail how you killed Hitler, but, uh, you neglected to mention the fact that your mom is back from the dead? Dean: Yeah, no big deal. Jody: That’s a lie. Dean: Jody… Jody: Look, maybe this isn't my place, and this is epic stuff, but, you know, if I could have my son and my husband back? I mean really back? I would give anything, absolutely anything to have that. And it would scare the hell out of me.

12x06

[spnwin-reader]

Prime Dean gives Alt John the tools to unlock the truth and decide for himself if he will hunt

Original run context: John's feelings of betrayal

In the original #SPNprime, John was not allowed to fight for or defend himself until it was already too late. This made the wound of Mary's death much, much deeper than it would have otherwise been.

Unlike with Sam keeping the truth from Jess out of shame, Mary's keeping the truth from John may stem from incredible fear, watching Azazel kill him in The Beginning.

(It's perhaps more akin to Dean symbolically blinding Lisa and Ben to the truth to keep them safe than how Sam was with Jess.)

But the in The Song Remains the Same, John (temporarily) learns the truth, and he is (rightfully) frustrated by having been kept in the dark. He feels intense betrayal. He feels like a child.

JOHN: Monsters. Monsters? MARY: Yes. JOHN: Monsters are real. MARY: I'm sorry, I didn't know how��� JOHN: And you fight them? All of you? SAM: Yeah. JOHN: How long? MARY: All my life. John, just try to understand— DEAN: She didn't exactly have a choice— JOHN: Shut up, all of you! Look, not another word, or so help me, I will turn this car around! Silence falls.

/// LATER ///

JOHN: What? Y'all might have treated me like a fool, but I am not useless. I can draw a damn— (JOHN picks up the paper from next to a large knife.)—whatever it is—a sigil.

///

Original run context: Mary continued to hunt near/during the beginning of her marriage?

In Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox, we learn that it could've been Mary who created much of the tension in their marriage by potentially stepping out on John to hunt, calling into question if the fight shown between them in Dark Side of the Moon.

MARY: "No, John. We're not having this conversation again. Time to think? About what? You have two boys at home." DEAN: "I remember this. Mom and dad were fighting, and then he moved out for a couple of days." MARY: "Fine. Then don't. There's nothing more to talk about."

Now we wonder: Was this fight even John's fault to begin with? The stereotype of "angry husband" might lull you into thinking so, but it's equally possible that it was Mary that originated the fight--Mary who had a long, canon-supported history of lying. She's even the one shutting down the conversation here!

Mary would probably rather John think she's unfaithful than risk John being dragged into hunting, and she'd probably pivot to supporting their kids as an excuse to smooth things over. (Just as Cas would rather Dean assume anything so long as he's not dragged into the dangerous world of angelic Civil War).

Alternatively, the fight may have even been part of the normal ebb-and-flow of a marriage. It may have been that the fight looked a LOT bigger through the eyes of a sensitive four-year-old.

(A couple of days ain't even that long, but boy it sure does feel big when you're a kid. But just because their marriage wasn't "perfect" doesn't mean it wasn't good, and the Dean-Sam conversation completely misses on that front.)

//

One of the things post-season 12 in #SPNprime does so beautifully is calls into question everything we know about Mary, including the cartoonish idea of John as the root of all evil.

Mary's lies are given rich complexity, as is Dean's memory of her.

Everything in Dark Side of the Moon, from the idea of "Heaven" as the "perfect place you grow up" to being simplistically at peace with your siblings/"littermates" in the ideal childhood home forever is given more complexity by the narrative unfridging of Mary.

(It's why the gate to Heaven is always associated with a playground. "There's no place like home," is literal in SPN. Heaven can even be seen as the idealization of childhood, as sharing the same history.)

///

Dean helps John because Dean was also "locked out" during critical periods in his life, prevented from Danger "for his own good"

Dean feels this pain acutely in season 6, when Samuel Campbell, his brother Sam, and Bobby Singer keep him out of the larger hunting plot in order to "keep him at peace."

Despite their good intentions, this denied him the right to choose for himself if he'd meet The Fight head on.

Cas, too, does this with the angelic Civil War, with Kelly Kline, general "angel business," and The Empty deal, and Dean feels that as unintended rejection.

He feels, like John, coddled. Like a child. Not getting the chance to be an equal comrade or partner in the fight.

///

Here, prime Dean is giving John the key to discover the truth about monsters and Henry's Men of Letters heritage.

Certainly John has a lot of emotional baggage and childhood abandonment trauma to work through, but at least this time he'll have more agency ahead of time, and he'll get to choose which path to prepare for rather than having the world of monsters thrust upon him in the midst of a grief-spiral.

Dean has handed that power of Choice back to John.

Perhaps prime Dean too is wounded from being kept in the dark. Perhaps he longs for a world were he's known about Cas's The Empty deal instead of, like John, being blindsided and struck dumb by grief.

[ihatedean]

cock shame

[waywardvamp]

This supernatural Cluedo feels so silly because all of it depends on a bunch of hunters not having anti-posession tattoos.

[doggobrie]

watching 12x06 of supernatural and I forgot how much I like Sam/Jody. Especially in what I consider to be the "mom issues " season.

Like dude is greeting her with cheek kisses(while dean only does hugs)

Shares overly sexual facts with her comfortably.

When it's revealed Jody and Asa were a thing it doesn't warp his perception of her really. Deans the main one having a hard time grasping that she's a grown woman who has causal sex while Sam just sympathizes that "dating as a hunter is hard".

Also the whole Jody meeting Mary scene was kinda fun. Very awkward and gave me "mom meet my girlfrie- friend. Yeah this is my friend(mom?) Jody Mills".

BONUS: Sam should have gotten the Alucard treatment from Alicia and Max. Yes, with the sex scene and eventual betrayal.

[inacatastrophicmind]

Dean Winchester + lighter

[lazarrusrising]

I wonder if they're gonna remember that Dean has an anti possession tattoo OR that technically Sam's was burnt off his body and I don't think he got it redone

[becauseofthebowties]

Sam Winchester Appreciation Week - Day 1: Home / Family ↳ Sam & Dean's brotherly bond

[horrorshow]

He died on the job. No better way to go. You really believe that?

SUPERNATURAL 12.06 — Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox