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"Have you ever been in one of these?" he asked. But Michael looked so sweet standing there with his hand out all expectantly, and his eyes so kind, like, come on. It's just a cheesy carriage ride. What could happen? And it turned out I was wrong. The bench was not that big.
And I'm not that jaded of a New Yorker. Michael and I were sitting calmly beside each other on that bench, Not Kissing, and the next... we were in each other's arms. Kissing. Like two people who had never kissed before. Or, rather like two people who used to kiss a lot, and really liked it, and then had been deprived of kissing each other for a very long time. And then, suddenly, they were reintroduced to kissing and remembered they liked it. Quite a bit. YES. WE KISSED FOR TWENTY BLOCKS. IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. IN AN OLD-TIMEY HORSE CARRIAGE!
#sorta out of context#my favorite lines#the princess diaries#mia thermopolis#michael moscovitz#princess diaries#books#old-timey horse carriage#book 10#forever princess#twenty something blocks#I'm not sorry and I'll wait#meg cabot
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the rest of the cast got their new song covers, so i wanted to try putting the others in a band :>
i did want to make it look a bit like an album cover but i have no idea how those are designed so eh?? i also couldn't think of any band or album/song names so. if anyone has any ideas...
#art#obey me#obey me raphael#jtta ik#obey me mephistopheles#obey me thirteen#from left to right they are: lead singer/rhythm guitar - drummer - lead guitar - bass#tbh any of them could've taken any role but bassist girl thirteen spoke to me and raph canonically sings well so that felt like it fit#i did consider ik as lead but she'd absolutely shred on the drums. she has so much pent-up rage to let out...#in context this is for a music festival diavolo's putting on but it'd be a fun au as well#i like to think thirteen is the overwhelming favourite of all the fangirls#also in terms of band name...#i was thinking something based on the fact that there's one of each species (human/demon/angel/reaper) but what word can i use for that#jo has suggested something involving the numbers 3 and 4 for 3 realms and 4 members#3.4HZ Harmony was the best we could come up but it feels like there should be a sorta other-world element to it#then again if it's an au then i guess they'd all be humans anyway#ah whatever#life and work related obligations have been growing so naturally i've been starting a bunch of creative endeavours to try to get away from#is this a long term good thing for future career prospects? probably not. but i'd rather be happy#the unknowables
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Every now and then I think about how subtitles (or dubs), and thus translation choices, shape our perception of the media we consume. It's so interesting. I'd wager anyone who speaks two (or more) languages knows the feeling of "yeah, that's what it literally translates to, but that's not what it means" or has answered a question like "how do you say _____ in (language)?" with "you don't, it's just … not a thing, we don't say that."
I've had my fair share of "[SHIP] are [married/soulmates/fated/FANCY TERM], it's text!" "[CHARACTER A] calls [CHARACTER B] [ENDEARMENT/NICKNAME], it's text!" and every time. Every time I'm just like. Do they though. Is it though. And a lot of the time, this means seeking out alternative translations, or translation meta from fluent or native speakers, or sometimes from language learners of the language the piece of media is originally in.
Why does it matter? Maybe it doesn't. To lots of people, it doesn't. People have different interests and priorities in fiction and the way they interact with it. It's great. It matters to me because back in the early 2000s, I had dial-up internet. Video or audio media that wasn't available through my local library very much wasn't available, but fanfiction was. So I started to read English language Gundam Wing fanfic before I ever had a chance to watch the show. When I did get around to watching Gundam Wing, it was the original Japanese dub. Some of the characters were almost unrecognisable to me, and first I doubted my Japanese language ability, then, after checking some bits with friends, I wondered why even my favourite writers, writers I knew to be consistent in other things, had made these characters seem so different … until I had the chance to watch the US-English dub a few years later. Going by that adaptation, the characterisation from all those stories suddenly made a lot more sense. And the thing is, that interpretation is also valid! They just took it a direction that was a larger leap for me to make.
Loose adaptations and very free translations have become less frequent since, or maybe my taste just hasn't led me their way, but the issue at the core is still a thing: Supernatural fandom got different nuances of endings for their show depending on the language they watched it in. CQL and MDZS fandom and the never-ending discussions about 知己 vs soulmate vs Other Options. A subset of VLD fans looking at a specific clip in all the different languages to see what was being said/implied in which dub, and how different translators interpreted the same English original line. The list is pretty much endless.
And that's … idk if it's fine, but it's what happens! A lot of the time, concepts -- expressed in language -- don't translate 1:1. The larger the cultural gap, the larger the gaps between the way concepts are expressed or understood also tend to be. Other times, there is a literal translation that works but isn't very idiomatic because there's a register mismatch or worse. And that's even before cultural assumptions come in. It's normal to have those. It's also important to remember that things like "thanks I hate it" as a sentiment of praise/affection, while the words translate literally quite easily, emphatically isn't easy to translate in the sense anglophone internet users the phrase.
Every translation is, at some level, a transformative work. Sometimes expressions or concepts or even single words simply don't have an exact equivalent in the target language and need to be interpreted at the translator's discretion, especially when going from a high-context/listener-responsible source language to a low-context/speaker-responsible target language (where high-context/listener responsible roughly means a large amount of contextual information can be omitted by the speaker because it's the listener's responsibility to infer it and ask for clarification if needed, and low-context/speaker-responsible roughly means a lot of information needs to be codified in speech, i.e. the speaker is responsible for providing sufficiently explicit context and will be blamed if it's lacking).
Is this a mouse or a rat? Guess based on context clues! High-context languages can and frequently do omit entire parts of speech that lower-context/speaker-responsible languages like English regard as essential, such as the grammatical subject of a sentence: the equivalent of "Go?" - "Go." does largely the same amount of heavy lifting as "is he/she/it/are you/they/we going?" - "yes, I am/he/she/it is/we/you/they are" in several listener-responsible languages, but tends to seem clumsy or incomplete in more speaker-responsible ones. This does NOT mean the listener-responsible language is clumsy. It's arguably more efficient! And reversely, saying "Are you going?" - "I am (going)" might seem unnecessarily convoluted and clumsy in a listener-responsible language. All depending on context.
This gets tricky both when the ambiguity of the missing subject of the sentence is clearly important (is speaker A asking "are you going" or "is she going"? wait until next chapter and find out!) AND when it's important that the translator assign an explicit subject in order for the sentence to make sense in the target language. For our example, depending on context, something like "are we all going?" - "yes" or "they going, too?" might work. Context!
As a consequence of this, sometimes, translation adds things – we gain things in translation, so to speak. Sometimes, it's because the target language needs the extra information (like the subject in the examples above), sometimes it's because the target language actually differentiates between mouse and rat even though the source language doesn't. However, because in most cases translators don't have access to the original authors, or even the original authors' agencies to ask for clarification (and in most cases wouldn't get paid for the time to put in this extra work even if they did), this kind of addition is almost always an interpretation. Sometimes made with a lot of certainty, sometimes it's more of a "fuck it, I've got to put something and hope it doesn't get proven wrong next episode/chapter/ten seasons down" (especially fun when you're working on a series that's in progress).
For the vast majority of cases, several translations are valid. Some may be more far-fetched than others, and there'll always be subjectivity to whether something was translated effectively, what "effectively" even means …
ANYWAY. I think my point is … how interesting, how cool is it that engaging with media in multiple languages will always yield multiple, often equally valid but just sliiiiightly different versions of that piece of media? And that I'd love more conversations about how, the second we (as folks who don't speak the material's original language) start picking the subtitle or dub wording apart for meta, we're basically working from a secondary source, and if we're doing due diligence, to which extent do we need to check there's nothing substantial being (literally) lost -- or added! -- in translation?
#translation#linguistics (sorta)#I love language so much#long post#subtitling#dubbing#transformative work#if you read all the way to the end - THANK YOU I am so impressed#localisation#this is not an academic essay but I still feel bad for not citing sources#low vs high context cultures and languages are concepts from intercultural communication studies#but idk how up to date that is or whether folks even still actually use them#I know they oversimplify things#but it helped me say what I was trying to here so shrug#languages#language soup#meta#language meta#fandom meta of sorts#thanks for the help sorting this out kayla <3#my nonsense
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Something is Rotting.
#isat#in stars and time#isat siffrin#isat spoilers#sorta??? maybe???? jic#they’re like out of context spoilies but whatever and its mostly just symbolic so whatever#body horror#jic as well#siffrin#for my own tagging
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Izyy. I've just got a question I have to ask.
What would sonic and Shadow's reaction be seeing Vanitas?
(You make me freak over Vanitas by the way lol.)
oh…. well…. it’d probably end up like this… hehe
#asks#ask my ocs: ultimate lifespawn#art#my art#artists on tumblr#izuart#izzy oc#ultimate lifespawn au#vanitas the hedgehog#sonic the hedgehog#shadow the hedgehog#sonadow#sonadow fankid#sonadow fanart#sth fankid#sonic fankid#fankid au#oc#original character#sonic art#sth art#I CAN FINALLY ANSWER THIS ASKKKKKK#thank you for waiting fr fr#I’ve been feeling sorta slogged lately OOF#but yeah uh I imagine their meeting like this#some context as to why shadow is so angy vanitas just beat the SHIT out of vox (and also talia somewhat)
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jonouchi is literally being killed via shadow game mind tricks and all kaiba can think about is how cool marik's ra card is
#i demand to see kaibas autism diagnosis NOW#*jonouchi is being killed* “wow ancient duel monsters card so powerful so cool.....”#yugioh#ygo#manga#out of context#jounouchi katsuya#seto kaiba#yami yugi#yami marik#anzu mazaki#honda hiroto#shizuka kawai#ygo manga liveblog#<= sorta. i waited a bit to post this bc i didnt wanna be annoying w spam lol
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Kim Dokja + my theatre studies lecture notes, lmfao (source: EF’s Visit to a Small Planet: Some Qustions to Ask a Play)
#omniscient reader's viewpoint#orv#kim dokja#oldest dream#mmm not tagging the others nah#orv spoilers#literally the most important part of this is the last page everything else can go to hell as far as i care <- im very tired#started on this like around my midterms it is now. like a month after my finals#im supposed to be working on my ANIMATIC but i wanted to get this out because its LITERALLY been 3 WHOLE MONTHS#christ alive#the quote is specifically from the section called 'dont forget yourself' which is also pretty funny in context but anw#couldnt figure out a way to sorta organically incorporate that
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[id: a digital sketch of jonathan sims from tma, portraying him in an alternate timeline. his skin is noticeably devoid of major scarring and he looks altogether more well-rested and well-adjusted compared to canon. he is a thin man with chin length slightly receding curly hair and aquiline features. he wears rectangular glasses, a shirt and tie, a cardigan with the sleeves rolled up to the elbows, and an ace ring. he is looking off to one side with an intrigued expression, a question mark in the air next to him. end id.]
tbh ep 8 had me considering sam’n’celia’s wacky investigative tour of tma characters who are maybe doing better and maybe they meet a curmudgeonly but highly passionate schoolteacher (who incidentally maybe still has an arachnid themed childhood trauma story) and maybe after their discussion over coffee the schoolteacher goes to leave and makes eye contact with a beautiful but disgruntled executive assistant approaching from up the street. im just saying.
#there is a whole comic but is it saintposting if i don’t post an out of context jon from a wip. i don’t think so#tma#jonblogging#described#my#saint draws#tmagp spoilers#sorta ! ?
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Mat is the type of person to see a red flag, acknowledge that it’s a red flag, continue forward and then gets surprised when the red flag is red
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Hornigold's Izzy was the worst, of course. A version of himself that never escaped that terrible place, who lived his life as little more than an object. He still has nightmares about all the things Baz told them, about all the things he didn't.
It doesn't really surprise him, after the first ones, not at its root. To be Izzy Hands is to be someone's after all, though seeing his own face on someone so fundamentally different to him never gets less weird. The people who these other Izzys attached themselves too often left him with more questions than answers. Jack's Izzy, he can understand, from a certain view, though the man himself felt like a fever dream. The less said about Stede's Izzy the better, he's never going to forgive him for the ideas he put in his Stede's head.
Then there was Sam's Izzy.
The first thing anyone noticed about him was that he was happy. He smiled and laughed without thought, and went through life with an ease Izzy didn't think he had ever felt. The crew took to him immediately, accepting him in a way they never did the other Izzys, and certainly not their own. They prodded him and asked him endless questions, and he took every touch without a flinch and answered every question without a hint of a grumble. This Izzy was free. He was open, unburdened, trusting. He was happy.
Sam's Izzy was the one that hurt the most to see. He could accept the worst that Hornigold could've offered, that he would have suffered and been broken. It was infinitely harder to see that he had a chance to be this happy. That it slipped through his fingers.
He's never looked back before, but now? Seeing what might've been? He can't stop himself from considering the possibility that maybe he made the wrong choice back then, going with Ed.
#another little snippet from that au i am never ever going to do anything with <3#i feel like this comes with a whole bunch of asterisks that things arent this simple and sams izzy isnt only this embodiment of joy#that theres depth to him and his universe. but also yeah i kinda do have it mapped out that his life is pretty golden#but this is just a snippet; addressing the initial impression. you dont get all the izzy talking and nuances#i plan to have izzy decide hes pretty happy with his life in the end. that he's do it all again if he had to.#(you can decide if this is or isnt s2 compliant or not. i did start plotting this like. more than a year ago so. it probably isntttt#but ill probably draw from her in some regards <3 )#hes wrong about the crew too! sorta. again; its all izzys view on things and therefore subject to the mans own issues#nyxtalks#ofmd#our flag means death#izzy hands#israel hands#sam bellamy#bellhands#Sam's Izzy#i actually have no idea if i have a tag for the other couple posts i made abt this! but theres one now#shout out to my dearest sage who got this spitballed in her dms one lunchtime. u are everything to me#thank u for always bouncing izzy ideas with me and being so open to my random shit completely removed from context <3#izzyverse
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Actually the thought only strikes me now that of all the Punch-Out characters the one that's the most likely to be able to bridge the language barrier is, of all characters, Bear Hugger.
I mean, while it isn't explicitly stated, French is a pretty widespread language across Canada (I mean hell, Glass Joe's VA was a Francophone Canadian rather than needing to actually get someone from France), and while it's most prominently centered around Quebec, there are still sizable French-speaking populations in both Saskatchewan and British Columbia (his two given places of origin in the games). There's a markedly nonzero chance that, while maybe not full-on fluent, he'd at least be able to understand some decent conversational French and carry a chat without too much difficulty. Granted it's still just two languages out of idk eight the fact that one of his languages is English means he can translate like a third of the contenders
#and tipping more into headcanon territory but I like to think he'd pick up on a smidge of the languages he's around a lot#Keigo might be a bit of a tall order but he'd probably pick up on a bit of Japanese from Hondo#some spanish is straightforward enough to translate based on context#and I could see him trying to learn a bit of Spanish and Hindi#if anything just to see if it'd make beating his opponents easier if he can understand what they're saying#idk had the mental image of him and Joe having a friendly chat and my brain sorta liquefied (positive)#punch out!!#bear hugger#op back on her bullshit
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2021 Shadowlands fanart.
#world of warcraft#anduin wrynn#Garrosh follows this with something like 'yeah your not but maybe i am' so i sorta take the quote out of context but#I remember Anduin being very upset about the mere idea hes compaired to Arthas#Its always seemed to me that his similarities with arthas are something that lowkey bothers him because so many only see that in him#Of course people hurt by Arthas will be a bit weary of a human boy with blonde hair who claims to champion the light and justice#Especially one who is a prince of an important human kingdom#So its something hes self-conscious of and is keen to prove people he's not destine to fail#Which is why#even if he didn't become another Arthas entirely#what happens in SLs is so much more traumatic to him#He hurt people he cared about#he hurt innocent souls#((and his situation of mind control is more akin to sylvanas' then arthas but does he see that that way? Or do his fears blind his view?))#And blizz didnt go into detail what this meant but Arthas was used against him literally#My headcanon is that Anduin knew and could feel it and hear arthas in the sword#but in the cinematic anduin is surprised by arthas' soul appearing so canon says anduin didnt know#He dissappers because he is unsure if the bad feelings he felt orignated from him or zovaal or arthas so#prehaps he is afraid that everyone was right to be weary of him#Maybe he didnt end up as arthas at the end of shadowlands but that doesnt mean he can't still go down a dark path#he is afraid he is more capable of becoming an unjust and cruel leader then he thought he could#His people have every right to be upset that he abandoned them#but they dont know that he left because he was afraid he could hurt them and feel joy from it
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All I can think of every time I see the palantir is the first time I saw it in Return of the King and couldn’t figure out why that bowling ball was fucking up Pippin
#rings of power#rop#lotr#in my defense I was very young and had no context as to what it was#they just sorta dropped it in there#it took several watches to figure out that Sauron was communicating with him through it#again…very young with undiagnosed adhd lmaooo
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Wait important question
For no reason whatsoever
...what year was the hydrogen bomb invented
Do you see where I'm going with this
#malevolent podcast#malevolent spoilers#...kinda sorta i guess?#technically spoiler but really vague out of context spoiler#malevolent episode 47#again only *barely*#lucifanbabbles#zizistuff
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Um. Brett?
I was under the impression that the Phil/Brett stuff was a running joke, but there comes a point where you've gone beyond committing to the bit into just straight-up dating. like, this lowkey reads like a relationship announcement, is that on purpose?? Hello???
#yes i know they've been doing this for years now#and i'm pretty sure i heard at least one of them had a girlfriend?#but like#this does not read as a joke#without context this is not silly boys being silly this just looks like they're actually dating#even with context i'm lowkey sorta wondering now#and i am NOT in the habit of rpf tinhatting this is way out of my normal area#seriously what's happening#brett goldstein#phil dunster#ted lasso#emmys#emmy awards
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