#sorta out of context

[hrhmiat]

"Have you ever been in one of these?" he asked. But Michael looked so sweet standing there with his hand out all expectantly, and his eyes so kind, like, come on. It's just a cheesy carriage ride. What could happen? And it turned out I was wrong. The bench was not that big.

And I'm not that jaded of a New Yorker. Michael and I were sitting calmly beside each other on that bench, Not Kissing, and the next... we were in each other's arms. Kissing. Like two people who had never kissed before. Or, rather like two people who used to kiss a lot, and really liked it, and then had been deprived of kissing each other for a very long time. And then, suddenly, they were reintroduced to kissing and remembered they liked it. Quite a bit. YES. WE KISSED FOR TWENTY BLOCKS. IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. IN AN OLD-TIMEY HORSE CARRIAGE!

[journey-to-the-attic]

the rest of the cast got their new song covers, so i wanted to try putting the others in a band :>

i did want to make it look a bit like an album cover but i have no idea how those are designed so eh?? i also couldn't think of any band or album/song names so. if anyone has any ideas...

[lurkingteapot]

Every now and then I think about how subtitles (or dubs), and thus translation choices, shape our perception of the media we consume. It's so interesting. I'd wager anyone who speaks two (or more) languages knows the feeling of "yeah, that's what it literally translates to, but that's not what it means" or has answered a question like "how do you say _____ in (language)?" with "you don't, it's just … not a thing, we don't say that."

I've had my fair share of "[SHIP] are [married/soulmates/fated/FANCY TERM], it's text!" "[CHARACTER A] calls [CHARACTER B] [ENDEARMENT/NICKNAME], it's text!" and every time. Every time I'm just like. Do they though. Is it though. And a lot of the time, this means seeking out alternative translations, or translation meta from fluent or native speakers, or sometimes from language learners of the language the piece of media is originally in.

Why does it matter? Maybe it doesn't. To lots of people, it doesn't. People have different interests and priorities in fiction and the way they interact with it. It's great. It matters to me because back in the early 2000s, I had dial-up internet. Video or audio media that wasn't available through my local library very much wasn't available, but fanfiction was. So I started to read English language Gundam Wing fanfic before I ever had a chance to watch the show. When I did get around to watching Gundam Wing, it was the original Japanese dub. Some of the characters were almost unrecognisable to me, and first I doubted my Japanese language ability, then, after checking some bits with friends, I wondered why even my favourite writers, writers I knew to be consistent in other things, had made these characters seem so different … until I had the chance to watch the US-English dub a few years later. Going by that adaptation, the characterisation from all those stories suddenly made a lot more sense. And the thing is, that interpretation is also valid! They just took it a direction that was a larger leap for me to make.

Loose adaptations and very free translations have become less frequent since, or maybe my taste just hasn't led me their way, but the issue at the core is still a thing: Supernatural fandom got different nuances of endings for their show depending on the language they watched it in. CQL and MDZS fandom and the never-ending discussions about 知己 vs soulmate vs Other Options. A subset of VLD fans looking at a specific clip in all the different languages to see what was being said/implied in which dub, and how different translators interpreted the same English original line. The list is pretty much endless.

And that's … idk if it's fine, but it's what happens! A lot of the time, concepts -- expressed in language -- don't translate 1:1. The larger the cultural gap, the larger the gaps between the way concepts are expressed or understood also tend to be. Other times, there is a literal translation that works but isn't very idiomatic because there's a register mismatch or worse. And that's even before cultural assumptions come in. It's normal to have those. It's also important to remember that things like "thanks I hate it" as a sentiment of praise/affection, while the words translate literally quite easily, emphatically isn't easy to translate in the sense anglophone internet users the phrase.

Every translation is, at some level, a transformative work. Sometimes expressions or concepts or even single words simply don't have an exact equivalent in the target language and need to be interpreted at the translator's discretion, especially when going from a high-context/listener-responsible source language to a low-context/speaker-responsible target language (where high-context/listener responsible roughly means a large amount of contextual information can be omitted by the speaker because it's the listener's responsibility to infer it and ask for clarification if needed, and low-context/speaker-responsible roughly means a lot of information needs to be codified in speech, i.e. the speaker is responsible for providing sufficiently explicit context and will be blamed if it's lacking).

Is this a mouse or a rat? Guess based on context clues! High-context languages can and frequently do omit entire parts of speech that lower-context/speaker-responsible languages like English regard as essential, such as the grammatical subject of a sentence: the equivalent of "Go?" - "Go." does largely the same amount of heavy lifting as "is he/she/it/are you/they/we going?" - "yes, I am/he/she/it is/we/you/they are" in several listener-responsible languages, but tends to seem clumsy or incomplete in more speaker-responsible ones. This does NOT mean the listener-responsible language is clumsy. It's arguably more efficient! And reversely, saying "Are you going?" - "I am (going)" might seem unnecessarily convoluted and clumsy in a listener-responsible language. All depending on context.

This gets tricky both when the ambiguity of the missing subject of the sentence is clearly important (is speaker A asking "are you going" or "is she going"? wait until next chapter and find out!) AND when it's important that the translator assign an explicit subject in order for the sentence to make sense in the target language. For our example, depending on context, something like "are we all going?" - "yes" or "they going, too?" might work. Context!

As a consequence of this, sometimes, translation adds things – we gain things in translation, so to speak. Sometimes, it's because the target language needs the extra information (like the subject in the examples above), sometimes it's because the target language actually differentiates between mouse and rat even though the source language doesn't. However, because in most cases translators don't have access to the original authors, or even the original authors' agencies to ask for clarification (and in most cases wouldn't get paid for the time to put in this extra work even if they did), this kind of addition is almost always an interpretation. Sometimes made with a lot of certainty, sometimes it's more of a "fuck it, I've got to put something and hope it doesn't get proven wrong next episode/chapter/ten seasons down" (especially fun when you're working on a series that's in progress).

For the vast majority of cases, several translations are valid. Some may be more far-fetched than others, and there'll always be subjectivity to whether something was translated effectively, what "effectively" even means …

ANYWAY. I think my point is … how interesting, how cool is it that engaging with media in multiple languages will always yield multiple, often equally valid but just sliiiiightly different versions of that piece of media? And that I'd love more conversations about how, the second we (as folks who don't speak the material's original language) start picking the subtitle or dub wording apart for meta, we're basically working from a secondary source, and if we're doing due diligence, to which extent do we need to check there's nothing substantial being (literally) lost -- or added! -- in translation?

[ohnomysoul]

Something is Rotting.

[izuizzy]

Izyy. I've just got a question I have to ask.

What would sonic and Shadow's reaction be seeing Vanitas?

(You make me freak over Vanitas by the way lol.)

oh…. well…. it’d probably end up like this… hehe

[yugiohmangaoutofcontext]

jonouchi is literally being killed via shadow game mind tricks and all kaiba can think about is how cool marik's ra card is

[astranauticus]

Kim Dokja + my theatre studies lecture notes, lmfao (source: EF’s Visit to a Small Planet: Some Qustions to Ask a Play)

[saintbleeding]

[id: a digital sketch of jonathan sims from tma, portraying him in an alternate timeline. his skin is noticeably devoid of major scarring and he looks altogether more well-rested and well-adjusted compared to canon. he is a thin man with chin length slightly receding curly hair and aquiline features. he wears rectangular glasses, a shirt and tie, a cardigan with the sleeves rolled up to the elbows, and an ace ring. he is looking off to one side with an intrigued expression, a question mark in the air next to him. end id.]

tbh ep 8 had me considering sam’n’celia’s wacky investigative tour of tma characters who are maybe doing better and maybe they meet a curmudgeonly but highly passionate schoolteacher (who incidentally maybe still has an arachnid themed childhood trauma story) and maybe after their discussion over coffee the schoolteacher goes to leave and makes eye contact with a beautiful but disgruntled executive assistant approaching from up the street. im just saying.

[toastandjamie]

Mat is the type of person to see a red flag, acknowledge that it’s a red flag, continue forward and then gets surprised when the red flag is red

[candyunicornsateme]

This may be random but I keep thinking Kyle would totally oscillate between "ew don't put that near me, don't get that on me that's gross" and "I wanna get my hands dirty. I'm human. I'm a filthy dirty boy", like ok chill Kyle what existential crisis are you having this week

[tempestmothstorm]

On this week’s episode of “Wtf Did They Mean By That” we have wtf did they mean by that

Ok idk if it’s just me but this line feels like it’s meant to address the whole Natsuki home life question but it answers it by just. Not????

Cause like this line could both be interpreted as a confirmation and decomfirmation of physical abuse in the side stories because Natsuki just loves being really vague like that with that last line

Cause the line could mean, “of course they wouldn’t hurt me physically, but I’m scared they might retaliate in some other way” and in like any other context it would be the normal assumption.

But knowing what goes on base game and how oddly specific it is to bring up physical harm in the first place for an otherwise normal situation it could also mean, “of course they wouldn’t hurt me physically, but the treatment from my father has made me subconsciously fear the same abuse from others” and I can’t tell if I’m going insane here like are you ok?????

At least Yuri promises to smite her enemies in the next line. Good for her 👍

[arsenicflame]

Hornigold's Izzy was the worst, of course. A version of himself that never escaped that terrible place, who lived his life as little more than an object. He still has nightmares about all the things Baz told them, about all the things he didn't.

It doesn't really surprise him, after the first ones, not at its root. To be Izzy Hands is to be someone's after all, though seeing his own face on someone so fundamentally different to him never gets less weird. The people who these other Izzys attached themselves too often left him with more questions than answers. Jack's Izzy, he can understand, from a certain view, though the man himself felt like a fever dream. The less said about Stede's Izzy the better, he's never going to forgive him for the ideas he put in his Stede's head.

Then there was Sam's Izzy.

The first thing anyone noticed about him was that he was happy. He smiled and laughed without thought, and went through life with an ease Izzy didn't think he had ever felt. The crew took to him immediately, accepting him in a way they never did the other Izzys, and certainly not their own. They prodded him and asked him endless questions, and he took every touch without a flinch and answered every question without a hint of a grumble. This Izzy was free. He was open, unburdened, trusting. He was happy.

Sam's Izzy was the one that hurt the most to see. He could accept the worst that Hornigold could've offered, that he would have suffered and been broken. It was infinitely harder to see that he had a chance to be this happy. That it slipped through his fingers.

He's never looked back before, but now? Seeing what might've been? He can't stop himself from considering the possibility that maybe he made the wrong choice back then, going with Ed.

[cosmicheartz]

sadly the person who did that nils analysis post blocked me ( not sure why but its whatever ) but it really opened my eyes to Nils a little TW for mentions of SA and light NSFW mentions ( I'm specifically talking abt older Nils and Elka in that context though )

At first i was thinking why Nils is the way he is was bc he had neglectful parents and unrestricted access to adult content but thinking over it more the implications that he could have been sexually abused makes a bit more sense ( granted i think the unrestricted access to adult content still shaped him for the worse ) Like if we take the Campster as canon a lot of the other campers list media that's definitely not meant for their age group ( Bobby having a bunch of R rated slasher movies, Kitty having Mulhohand Drive which is rated R, Milkas fave movie having a fucking rape scene in it etc ) but they don't seem to act like how Nils does. Sure Kitty does act a lot older than she is but i think some of it is because she hit puberty early along with other factors ( probably having access to media that while not exactly 100% explicit is definitely not meant for a 12 year old ) and Milka calls Lili, Kitty and Franke " ho's " but imo idk if Milka even fully knows what that means ( most likely heard her mom using that word in an insulting manner and just parroted it since she's like 7 and doesn't know any better )

It also adds a whole other layer to my " despite him acting outwardly sexual when he's older Nils is actually terrified of intimacy and chickens out when he and Elka attempt to be intimate " headcanon i have

[broken-clover]

Actually the thought only strikes me now that of all the Punch-Out characters the one that's the most likely to be able to bridge the language barrier is, of all characters, Bear Hugger.

I mean, while it isn't explicitly stated, French is a pretty widespread language across Canada (I mean hell, Glass Joe's VA was a Francophone Canadian rather than needing to actually get someone from France), and while it's most prominently centered around Quebec, there are still sizable French-speaking populations in both Saskatchewan and British Columbia (his two given places of origin in the games). There's a markedly nonzero chance that, while maybe not full-on fluent, he'd at least be able to understand some decent conversational French and carry a chat without too much difficulty. Granted it's still just two languages out of idk eight the fact that one of his languages is English means he can translate like a third of the contenders

[druidonity2]

2021 Shadowlands fanart.

[luci-z-wont-shut-up]

Wait important question

For no reason whatsoever

...what year was the hydrogen bomb invented

Do you see where I'm going with this