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despite Laios low self esteem making him think that if heād been eaten, Chilchuck and Marcille wouldnāt have helped Falin,
theres a small part of me that thinks the reason Chilchuck stayed with the party and went back in the dungeon in the first place was because he didnāt want to leave Laios alone. That Laios was moreso the reason he stayed.
#dungeon meshi#chilaios#OK SORRY. THE DEMONS. I REALLY DID NOT WANT TO LIKE THIS PAIRING. I DIDNT. BUT. HHH. FHFHJFJV. I FEEL CRAZY. LET ME EXPLAIN.#Pre canon it seems Laios is the person Chilchuck is really the closest to#He gets along with Namari and they are probably way better as buddies than he and Laios but#He and Laios seem *closer*#If that makes sense#Laios calls him his first name enough and without any issue or hesitation from Chilchuck#That I sort of inagine its not like. A misunderstanding. Laios is on a first name basis with him for a reason.#He also worries probably more than anyone about Laios#And his biggest criticism of him is that hes ārecklessā#heās comfortable around Laios in a very specific way and so is Laios around him#and in the series he shows many times that heāll risk his life to protect Laios#Like staying with him to confront the elves because he was worried Laios would say something stupid#Hes the first one to run up to him when Falin punches him#I mean I think he was also going back for Falin like its not like I think he doesnāt care about her or anything#He clearly does#But I donāt know if heād have gone back if Laios hadnāt#And if Laios had been eaten I think he wouldnāt have even had to be convinced by Falin#I also think Marcille wouldāve gone back for him but probably more bc Falin was going back#Like sort of a reversed thing#AGAIN not that I donāt think she cared about Laios at the beginning either#But she before the story she was mostly Falinās friend who knew Laios through Falin#She only really got to know him when Falin got eaten and they had to do a team building exercise#Though now I sort of want to see an actually reversed scenario#Bc we also know that Chilchuck is sort of uncomfortable around Falin (said in relationship chart)#So I would love to see them be forced into a team building exercise to find a person they both love the way Laios and Marcille were
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look this site really is awful for ppl with OCD so i just wanna reassure anyone that you are not Tainted Forever for consuming a piece of media with questionable content. the fact that youre able to recognize it speaks to your critical thinking skills, which is good, certain depictions should be critiqued. but you dont need to ruminate on it to the point where you begin to feel guilty for simply witnessing gross or creepy writing choices. you dont have to vindicate yourself to the fictional tumblr discourser inside your head, saying that youre now a bad person bc you watched the wrong anime. your actual response to it still matters of course, but thats that and this is this. just seeing it is neutral, you didnt commit a thought crime. its literally fine.
IF YOU ARE USING THIS POST TO ONLY FURTHER YOUR STUPID PEDANTIC BLACK-AND-WHITE DISCOURSE TO GET A "GOCHA" OVER THE OTHER SIDE YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. DON'T USE OUR DISORDER TO VINDICATE YOUR BEHAVIOR. THOUGHT CRIMES ARENT REAL BUT ACTIONS STILL MATTER. PEOPLE WITH OCD ARE CAPABLE OF THINKING CRITICALLY ABOUT OUR ACTIONS AND RESPONSES, EVEN WITH INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS AND RUMINATIONS. TREATING US AS IF WE CANNOT, ONLY TO FORCE US TO USE YOUR STRINGENT UNNUANCED DISCOURSE OPINIONS ABOUT "PURITY CULTURE" (TRIGGERING TO THOSE WITH OCD) AS THE ONLY REASONABLE GUIDE DOES MORE TO EXACERBATE OUR OBSESSIONS THAN HELP US. YOU ARE THE ISSUE AS WELL. YOU ARE ALSO THE TUMBLR DISCOURSER INSIDE OUR HEADS. DO NOT USE US FOR YOUR DISCOURSE. WE ARE PEOPLE, NOT HYPOTHETICALS TO USE TO EXPLAIN IF YOUR FROZEN INCEST FANFICTION IS OKAY OR NOT. TREATING US AS IF WE CANNOT AUTONOMOUSLY HAVE OUR OWN OPINIONS ON WHEN MEDIA IS TANGIBLY HARMFUL IS ABLEIST. FORCING US TO ABIDE BY YOUR IN-GROUP'S SET OF UNEQUIVOCAL MORALS IS ABLEIST. ACTING AS THOUGH THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR US IS MINDLESS MEDIA CONSUMPTION IN WHICH "EVERY DEPICTION OF XYZ, NO MATTER HOW POORLY DONE OR EXPLOITATIVE, IS ALWAYS OKAY AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOURE ACTUALLY AN EVIL 'ANTI'" IS ABLEIST. THOSE ARE THE SAME BLACK-AND-WHITE MORALS THAT SEND US INTO OBSESSIVE SPIKES, BUT FLIPPED. A SET OF MORALS IN WHICH QUESTIONING THE IMPACT OF A PIECE OF WORK MAKES YOU AN "EVIL CONSERVATIVE PURITAN "ANTI"" DOES NOT HELP MORAL OCD.
YOU ARE THE DAMN TUMBLR DISCOUERSERS MAKING THIS SHIT WORSE FOR US! YOURE THE EXACT SAME BUT WITH FLIPPED BUZZWORDS! YOU'RE MISSING THE WHOLE DAMN POINT!
#the fictional tumblr discourser inside your head is like the opposite of critical thinking its just extremes#blocking that helps you form better thoughts and come to a better understanding of why said content can be harmful in said depiction etc et#and to be clear shutting off all critical thoughts is not the solution either bc then you end up with.... Those People#the ones who jack off to lolicon on ao3 and think its the same artistically as lolita x_x#this post is not a vindication for that sort of thing. or say like actively supporting an openly bigoted series or author#those are different things because they are actual choices and actions. you chose to respond that way#thats what i mean when i say your actual response still matters. as in your actions surrounding it
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Thoughts of you
#phoenix wright#miles edgeworth#narumitsu#wrightworth#ace attorney#fan art#aa#pressed to say this is ship art because its really just im obsessed with them art#HOWEVER. the idea WAS that these are a series of instances where they were thinking of each other and/or depictions of those memories#also if you look at it theyāre supposed to sort of surround one another#leftmost phoenix is surrounded by miles and likewise the rightmost miles is surrounded by phoenix#not perfectly exectuted but not terribly done either#surprising no one i love the yawny phoenix bc 1 i relate but 2 i love him with morning shadow like HOMF#when i say they make me insane i mean i did this in less than 48 hours#no brain head full of narumitsu#rendevok
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4 MINUTES (2024) I 1.01 "I'm sorry. My dad wants me to go home now. For dinner."
#4 minutes#4 minutes the series#userfaiza#userrlaura#uservix#fuaiz thanawat#tonkla#thai bl#bl series#he's so pretty and yet so sad#loved the choice to focus on his reaction to korn leaving him high and dry#he looked like he wanted to cry#i have million of theories for their dynamic#firstly im still conviced that tonkla is gonna be with jjay's character win#i don't know if they're together already on the side or not#i think that they're not together yet and still have to meet#secondly the whole love scene between tonkla and korn HAS to be a set up to draw a parallel between win and korn#meaning: how will win treat tonkla is such a.... āsituationā in comparison to korn#korn is very sweet with tonkla but keeps him at a distance#for example when he left him hanging here in this scene#also i noticed that korn didn't even help him undress#EVERYTHING has a meaning RIGHT!!!!???#another theory is that tonkla is some sort of secret agent that has to get close to korn to find out some info or something#anyways.... THANK YOU FOR COMING TO MY TED TALK#mywork
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just read the plot summary for Wrath of the Triple Goddess and. wow this is. painful this just sounds painful to read.
Why is Grover the incompetent inciting incident character? That is not his narrative role ever, really. That's like, the fanon conceptualization of his character where he's reduced down to comedic relief and nothing more. He's mostly exposition and support. Why not have the inciting incident be something about Annabeth's hubris - something that has gotten the gang into situations tons of times before in a way that doesn't put down any of the characters? Heck you could have even tied it into some Sea of Monsters stuff, like Circe having told Annabeth that she'd make a good sorceress. That'd be perfect for how this book literally just exists to be advertising for s2 of PJOTV. Or maybe call-back to Percy's introduction, where he talks about how he doesn't try to cause problems but problems tend to find him. Or use the established personalities of Hecate's animal companions from HoO, since we know they have attitudes. Just what are you even doing here????
#pjo#riordanverse#wrath of the triple goddess#wottg#cotg trilogy#percy jackson#grover underwood#annabeth chase#you're advertising your mischaracterization of characters now!#dont do Grover dirty like that!!!!#i mentioned on discord that this plot summary sounds like a fanfiction plot to me. not in a means of ''oh fanfic inherently bad pbbbt''#cause fanfic not inherently bad. i know many fanfics way better than this. but fanfic-like in this is not consistent with canon#(cause fanfics dont need to be. versus canon stuff which does) and characters are being reduced to flat archetypes more often#which has been a sort of trend ive noticed recently in the franchise. a lot of characters in canon are getting treated more and more#like their fanon counterparts. which is WEIRD! cause we're all aware of how the fanon counterparts are vastly different from canon#and it just kind of goes to show how little the canon is keeping track of their own stuff cause it implies theyre just going based on fanon#just entirely lifting characterizations and concepts and such from the community. which is bad!!!! there's a reason you don't do that!!!!#like aside from it just being bad practice THERE'S LEGAL SHIT YOU CAN GET INTO WITH THAT#this is why you make a series bible Richard!!!!! copying the community's homework won't make them like you more!!!!!
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Photograph courtesy Astra-Coupris Racing, '49
Harrier Du Bois, a veteran TipTop TournƩe driver, and no stranger to controversy. Claims to be able to "talk to" his motor carriage (though has apparently been "getting the silent treatment" after a major crash). Has cost the team as many sponsorships as he's earned, but capable of almost supranatural pace on his day.
Pictured here in his Coupris-TT05 and his then-chief race engineer, Kim Kitsuragi, who has since unexpectedly become a successful TipTop driver himself, forming one of the more unusual driver pairings in recent memory.
#my art#disco elysium#(sue sylvester voice) i am going to create an AU that is *so* irrelevant to anybody else's interests#but nyeh maybe there's another f1 tragic in the DE fandom. might as well share with the class#i love them a lot so I put them... in the racey car#unfortunately TTT is an interisolary racing series so that means loadsa pale transit. and also the danger of crashing#i started trying to kludge together some old matra f1 cars and then gave up and drew some sort of Shape with a rear v12. nice.
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Not Sally having taught Percy ancient greek and Percy having only remembered one word
#i mean dad was probably the only word that felt significant to her#so it was probably the only one she taught him#but i still find it funny#percy jackson#the lightning thief#rick riordan#pjo tv show#pjo series#percy jackon and the olympians#pjo finale#pjo#pjo spoilers#we find out the truth sort of#sally jackson
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One of my favorite tiny headcanons for superbat is that they at some point while both concussed, end up with nicknames for each other. Bruce half jokingly calls Clark Sunshine, and again they're both concussed, their mental faculties are not all the way there. So Clark jokingly calls Bruce Moonshine.
No one else has this context. And everyone else is very confused.
#dc#dcu#superbat#superman#batman#superbattinson#assume most of my batman is based off the original comics the animated series(es) and battinson lol#I also hope to say that he doesn't mean it in the alcohol way lol#No idea how to properly say it#but like Bruce is Clark's moonlight of sorts#but his concussions didn't let him say it#and honestly they both laugh about the whole thing#like there's so much unspoken thoughts an feelings and shit#and i do not have the proper words to say them either
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Are you okay?
#the rebound#the rebound the series#ping krittanun#meen nichakoon#meenping#ryu x zen#reboundedit#thai bl#thai drama#bl drama#bl series#my edits.#on zen you're really in it now#no i mean it someone help him sort everything out š#it's always back and forth with ryu#and then there's grandma and atom and the whole damn basketball mafia apparently#and he's what? 16? 17??#also stupid gagaoolala logo getting in the way of giffing the whole scene š
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What is Rayman? Well, he's a thingamajig. Next question.
(I got attached to my Betilla design)
#rayman#betilla#rayman murfy#this goes into my headcanons a bit#i like the idea that not only was rayman the first limbless creature#but that his limbless-ness was a mistake#this does mean retconning a lot of character designs from rayman 1 but that's kind of what the series did post-origins anyway#every other thingamajig after him was dreamed up by polokus at some point maybe?#'cause once rayman existed he sort of became the jumping-off point for more dreams of thingamajigs#this series' continuity is so all-over-the-place literally anything goes#i hope my non-rayman followers are prepared for more because it ain't stopping#my brain has had such a firm grasp on this series for over a month now#and i don't understand why#but i'm having fun with it and that's all that matters
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At last, our dream is about to come true.
Poom Phuripan as JOE in Episode 12 MY STAND-IN (2024)
#poom phuripan#my stand in#my stand in the series#mingjoe#thai bl#lana.gifs#msi.gifs#subs color legend: white is joe - blue is ming - magenta is sol - green is tong - acid green is ming's mom - yellow is wut - purple is yim#12 monster sets of 28 to 30 gifs idk how i've made it BUT I DID!!!#this gif series truly was the most important for me to finish and i'm so glad i got here even if it sort of means closing a chapter#as the one show that has been the first and last in a long while to not disappoint me it's somewhat hard to let it go yk#but also had so much fun with this closing gifset! i still want to gif some stuff from this show but i'm in no rush for now so... here!!#userbon#usersasa#clairedaring#uservix#userrlaura#userpharawee#userlinnea#userspaige#userspring#userspicy#userjamiec#userzhaozi#raeblr#rinblr#esmetracks#aejeonghae#tuseralexa#tuservic
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Too Hard
Woop part 2 of the trip inside Jamil's head. Part 1 here.
The next time Jamil caught sight of you on campus, his first instinct was to turn around on his heel.
What a stupid thought to have because of you.
Besides, that would only make him more conspicuous, not less.
So, when your eyes met his, Jamil gave you a short nod in greeting. He wouldāve left it at that and kept on his way, had you not walked up to him.
āHi Jamil! Howās it going?ā you said with that impossibly disarming smile of yours.
Why was it so difficult to look at you like he normally would? You had no right to make him feel so stiff, so unnatural.
On autopilot, Jamil exchanged a few pleasantries with you - those lessons from his parents had been instilled too deep in him for him to falter too badly in a simple exchange such as this. Still, Jamil quickly excused himself by telling you he still had to find Kalim before his next class.
Jamil didnāt miss the way your smile faltered. Had you hoped to get something out of him?
āOh, okay. Iāll see you two later, then.ā
Something about that irked him, though Jamil did not allow himself to dwell on it further.
His heart really had no business still racing as it did when he walked away, unaware of the frown on his face.
Just act normal. Thatās all he needed to do.
After all, he had no time for dwelling in silly fancies.
If Jamil had been acutely aware of you before, it only seemed to worsen now that he was making a conscious effort to not act any differently with you. In fact, the harder he tried to keep you out, the more you invaded his thoughts, unsettling him.
The most innocuous words from you looped in his mind, and even the simplest actions caught his eye. For goodness's sake, heād found himself staring at you while you were queueing up in the cafeteria the other day, not even doing anything other than standing around and looking bored!
For once, Jamil found himself grateful for all his duties. At least they provided him with something else to occupy himself with.
After all, if he was busy enough, it was difficult to think about those bright eyes of yours, your sweet laugh, or the way you bit your lip while thinking.
Still, sometimes it felt like no matter which way he turned, you were there, ready to throw him off-kilter. Not like it was his fault that often the most convenient route to class intersected with your daily routines. Or that your face seemed to jump out from any crowd, catching his attention.
Which certainly did not help his basketball performance. Jamil certainly did not recall you having such an interest in sports before, yet suddenly you were always there, distracting him. What had changed?
Could you possibly-
Jamil scoffed to himself, forcing his thoughts back on track for the nth time that day.
He picked up the tray of food and started taking it to Kalim. After dinner, heād need to help Kalim with his homework, there were some housewarden tasks that would need dealing with, not to mention the preparations for the next-
Jamil froze in his tracks.
The voice he heard was quiet, but it was unmistakably you.
Really, it should not have come as such a surprise to him. You had become a rather frequent visitor to Scarabia, and Kalim often invited you to stay for meals. In fact, Jamil had started planning the dormās meal prep with your tastes and dietary restrictions in mind, just in case.
Jamil rounded the corner with strange exhilaration, his heart fluttering needlessly.
Yet, his mood evaporated when he saw you.
Why did you stop talking and look so guilty as soon as you caught sight of Jamil?
Jamil knew that look you gave to Kalim, had used it himself a thousand times. The one telling Kalim to keep quiet about something.
What could there possibly be that you would be comfortable sharing with Kalim, but not with him? That would give Kalim reason to sit so close to you, a comforting hand on your shoulder?
Jamil's mind raced with possibilities, yet could not settle for any single explanation.
Heād have to ask Kalim about it later.
Jamil gave you a short, polite greeting, his eyes lingering on you in an attempt to read what you were hiding.
āIf Iād known you were coming over, I wouldāve prepared something for you to eat as well,ā Jamil said, already thinking about which parts of the dormās dinner to spruce up for you.
āOh, no need, just figured Iād pop by. Iāll get out of your hair soon enough,ā you said, something sheepish about your expression.
As expected, Kalim asked you to stay and dine with them, and with just a bit more persuasion you agreed - though not before telling Jamil that he should join you too and have himself a breather.
And since Kalim agreed with you, Jamil soon found himself sharing a meal with you and Kalim. Yet, even as he sat down with the food, his mind raced.
Had you been getting particularly close to Kalim lately? But surely Jamil wouldāve noticed such a thing. Maybe someone from the dorm had been giving you trouble? But if that was the case, then surely you could let Jamil know about it, too. Unless for some reason you did not want to? But if it was something that concerned Kalim, then sooner or later it was bound to concern Jamil, too.
All the while, Kalim was talking to you about this and that, the latest topic being the animals kept on the Asim estate.
āIāve got some pictures, let me show you!ā Kalim said with an excited grin.
Only, a thorough patting of his pockets and a look around confirmed that Kalimās phone was nowhere to be seen.
Jamil pinched the bridge of his nose. Where had Kalim left it this time?
Before Jamil even had the chance to say that he would handle it, Kalim sprinted off. Jamil hesitated for a moment, automatically halfway up from his seat, before he decided that leaving a guest unattended would be a worse offense than not helping out his master.
Jamil slumped back down with a sigh, mentally tracing the path Kalim took today, trying to recall the last time he saw Kalim handle his phone.
āBreathe. Heāll manage,ā you said. There was the faintest of smiles on your lips, and Jamil could not decide if it was knowing or amused. Perhaps both.
Somehow, despite his frustration, Jamilās own lips wanted to curl up too.
āHmm. Maybe he will.ā
Sure, Jamil couldāve called Kalimās phone, to make it easier to find, but it was not that urgent, was it?
Jamil took another bite of his food, keeping an eye on you from the corner of his eye.
How was his mind so empty and so buzzing at the same time?
āYou know-ā
āSo-ā
You looked at each other, both just as surprised that the other had spoken up at the same time.
Even your surprised look was so-
āYou first,ā Jamil said. The way you bit your lip... Jamil had to raise a cup to his lips, slowly sipping his drink.
āJustā¦ Feels like itās been quite a while since Iāve seen you be still, you know. Or exchanged more than two words with you,ā you said. You were attempting a light, joking tone, yet it was quite clear there was more to it.
āYou say that like it would be unusual for me to be busy.ā
He was not prepared for the way your soft sigh tugged at his heartstrings.
āNo. It is not.ā
You were both quiet after, poking at your meals. Normally, Jamil wouldāve cherished such a moment of peace, yet this particular silence between you two was decidedly awkward.
Where was your usual chatter? Why werenāt you looking at him like you usually did?
āIf youāre worried about me, donāt. Iām fine,ā Jamil said, some softness creeping into his tone despite his best intentions.
āThat's what Kalim said too,ā you said. Yet the way you looked at Jamil made it clear you were still skeptical.
Wait.
Had you clammed up earlier because it had been Jamil you had been talking about with Kalim? That Kalim had comforted you about?
The thought twisted his stomach into knots.
Eta: you can find part 3 here, part 4 here, and finally part 5 here. Hasdhfsdf the way I fought with that last scene I swear. I don't even want to know how many versions I went through, trying to figure out how to say what I wanted without rubbing it into your face or making it too veiled. The joys of trying to convey things through a limited pov. Hopefully it came out reasonably balanced in the end. Rip to all those sentences that were lovely on their own but didnāt work for the whole. Hopefully I can rehome yāall one day. I do have thoughts for part 3 and part x (might be some chapters between those two as well, who knows at this point), so maybe we'll see those at some point, too. Tag list: @colliope @crystallizsch @diodellet @jamilsimpno69 @jamilvapologist @twstgo If you'd like to be tagged for future works, let me know! (Just be aware that sometimes I do also write nsfw, though you can certainly ask to be tagged only for particular kinds of works.)
#twisted wonderland#jamil viper#twisted wonderland x reader#jamil viper x reader#ner writes#jamil definitely knows how to deal with his feels#also writing this is making me wonder how aware jamil is of his inner versus outer life#like heās very aware of how he comes across because thatās what heās been told to watch out for#but how well has he truly learned to understand himself and his own feelings wants etc?#(I mean as you can tell Iām assuming not very well)#originally this went to more of a ājamil hears just the wrong part of the conversationā route but#a) I kinda hate that trope especially when itās dragged on beyond belief and#b) Kalim maybe doesnāt want to spill anyoneās secrets but he really is such an open book especially with Jamil so#also itās not like jamil needs the extra help to catastrophize he already does that well enough on his own š#tho then I went a little too far in the other direction and had to pull back#but let's just hope I didn't edit this to death by now#also also: since I seem to have a bit of a naming theme going on for this series#if I were to be the sort to go for the angst route what part would definitely be titled Too Late or something along those lines#also x3 but loved folks commenting on that part about reader being inoffensive in the first part#I certainly had fun writing that line#(and in general extra love to everyone who leaves comments on tags replies wherever always great to read those)#(and in general chat with y'all)
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once I took your medication to know what it's like.
#Iām the idiot with a painted face#sometimes when you call my name I think you mistake me for her#the use of a bodyā¦..#miraculous ladybug#self harm tw#nsft#blood tw#suggestive#nathalie sancoeur#ml#bruises tw#my art#ml fanart#try as she might the tsurugi branded circles on her body canāt be worked out by a hot shower#itās fine. theyāre on her back anyway. legs need hands to hold#is it reminiscent of when Emilie couldnāt walk? does that bring some sort of joy for either party?#bedridden doppelgƤngers#you are a series of choices nathalie sancoeur!!!!#okay the colors vary but Iām done futzing w it#on computer and mobile I mean#you still reading these tags?
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i think mostly we as a culture need to stop pretending media is for us and instead recognize that it's for the people making it. "the show didn't do the thing I wanted it to" is so not the point. did it do what the people making it wanted it to do? did it tell the story they were trying to tell? than it was successful. if that doesn't align with what you wanted to happen, don't get up in arms about it. don't badmouth the creators and throw a tantrum. that's what fan works are for. the text is the text, and it told the story it was telling. you wouldn't be like "ugh shakespeare is insane for act v btw like there was no reason for juliet to kill herself she should've just waited and then her and romeo could have been together wtf this ruined the whole play" like no!!! the themes were there the set-up was there the foreshadowing was there shakespeare did what he intended to. just because it wasn't a happy ending and just because you thought it should've went differently doesn't mean it was bad. read a fic where juliet lives and move on.
#this is about ghosts but honestly fandom in general#stop pretending the creators of things owe you certain story lines. they're making it not you#i explained it like this to my sister:#imagine you're reading a book and there are sort of hints and scenes that you take to interpret a character as gay#you cite quotes and talk about the themes and the impact of your interpretation#and then at the end of the book the character comes out as asexual.#and then a lot of those scenes and quotes that you were using as evidence for your interpretation-#now they could be construed to have been pointing towards them being ace all along#just because it wasnt the end you fabricated in your head based on your understanding of the hints#doesn't mean it wasnt always the writers plan from the beginning.#AND it doesnt mean you can't keep imagining a world where they're gay instead#it just means that the writer was leaving those clues to point you towards the ending#and you interpreted the clues differently#bbc ghosts#ghosts spoilers#bc like. if last resort was the ending#you could 'read' the whole series with the understanding that they weren't going to leave the house#and the foreshadowing would add up#but now with the special. you can go back and 'read' the series with the understanding that they leave#and it still all adds up. the foreshadowing was there it just meant something different than you thought.#stories have beginnings middles and ends#you predetermined the ending while still in the middle and got mad when you weren't right.#does that make sense?
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In defense of late-canon x files (including the revivals)
I was thinking about this poll after I commented on it, and I kinda want to be brave and say more.
Short answer to the poll's question before I go any further: If you're a new fan and a sensitive sort who thinks you'll struggle with your blorbos Really Going Through It and you really need a happy ending, I suggest you stop at the end of season 8. Do not pass go, do not look at spoilers. Disregard this post entirely, close the internet, and go look at something that makes you happy. (Also fuck every part of society that characterizes sensitivity as inherently weak and bad and some kind of personal failing, you are valid.)
That said, "quality" as a concept is entirely subjective, and the question of whether or not there's a decline in quality for any story is wholly subjective, too. In the case of x files? I'm not convinced there is a decline. I am going to be upfront that I haven't yet watched past season 8, though I am almost completely spoiled on events after that - and the reason I haven't watched yet is not because of how I know events are going to unfold, but simply because I don't want it to end!!! Ohh, the tension between "I CAN'T WAIT!!!" and "Nooo don't be over D:"
When I first came to txf fandom on tumblr and gradually became spoiled about what happens in late canon though, I was often left uncomfortable and tbh kinda queasy about it. As I said in my comment on the poll, the hate for especially the revival and IWTB, or to a lesser extent even seasons 8 & 9, is very well documented. But! There are other takes to be found here on tumblr if you figure out where to look, and my feelings have changed!
The thing is, I have yet to find myself in any fandom where there isn't a vocal subset of fans who dislike the story after a certain point. I am not joking when I say that no one hates the things they love as passionately as sci-fi and fantasy fans. In my experience, it often hinges on the extent to which a viewer has strong notions on where they would like the characters to end up. In particular with series where shipping is a dominant component for the bulk of a fandom, I have almost universally found that there comes some turning point in the story where "let them be happy you cowards" is the dominant view, and things that compromise the attainment of a degree of romantic stability and/or domesticity are, to many fans, annoying at best and despicable at worst. But! As one tagset on the linked poll said:
and I think for any fandom, that last tag especially is so so so important. (I think that's harder for people watching a weekly series live, bc you have so much time to analyze and speculate and dream before the next breadcrumb drops, but I digress.)
So why am I saying this and how do I apply it to x files? Well, I eventually found that there are also a subset of fans who find redeeming things right up to the very end and actually quite like the whole thing! The things that I had seen people rage and ventpost so much about honestly never quite sounded to me as "out of character" or "untrue to the story" etc as those same ventposts made them sound. And I've discovered I'm not the only one who felt that way. Do I love that the spooky squad had to go through all of those things? No, those poor guys D: Life is hard and they have been through so much trauma. But do those events and their choices make sense to me in light of everything that came before? Yes! And I honestly can't wait to see them fight to overcome those things, breaking, healing, always learning, always growing, always getting better.
So if you're wondering "where does it go wrong"... well, I'm a completionist, as many people who've answered that post are, but also my personal opinion is that I don't think it does go wrong. If you're new and interested in exploring why I've gone from "vaguely queasy" to "excited" about the whole thing, or want to maybe balance out the impressions you're getting about the later seasons before deciding whether or not you want to see the whole thing, I'll put a few blog names in the comments.
Final admission: even once I started feeling a little more confident in the possibility that "actually ok maybe I'm not crazy, maybe this all kind of is in character and does make sense", there was one big plot point that I was NOT looking forward to and I thought I would never be comfortable about. In hindsight, I think my discomfort came from the negative responses being SO seemingly universal that I hadn't stopped to let myself truly consider other possible interpretations on that point. (I mean my initial instinct when I first read about it was, why are we mad about this?? CSM is literally the most unreliable narrator in history???? it's obviously fake news?????? this must be either a fever dream someone's having or it's a misdirection ploy against whatever shadowy forces might still be lurking?????????????? but for whatever reason I guess I had halfway written that off.) Happily, just last month there's a new post-s11 novel out, and although reviews for the book as a whole are mixed, it seems to have laid the groundwork for resolving that plot issue in a way I think most fans would be broadly happy with. If you're interested in being spoiled about that and seeing how, I recommend searching #perihelion on @agent-troi who liveblogged reading it with receipts, scroll back chronological-style to the first post on the subject and see how it unfolded. (And never forget that Dana Katherine Scully is the queen of denial as a coping mechanism lol)
Everyone's mileage will vary. Each person can feel however they want! But for anyone new, I wanted you to know that the very many ventposts you might be seeing are not all there is to this show or its fandom. Some of us love it despite - or even because of - all the things that went "wrong". I think we just don't talk about it as much.
#i don't talk about it much because tbh it can get *fraught*. and i've had that in other fandoms too.#i added and deleted so many qualifiers from this post over it lmao#people are passionate about fandom which is great! as a concept#but it sucks feeling like most people hate the thing you love or that - however diplomatically it's phrased - you should hate it too#or that folks think maybe you *would* be mad if you just looked at it a certain (sometimes seemingly cast as the 'correct') way#basically it's insane that half the time when i see people standing up and praising the revival i'm like 'damn bruh. you brave'#and feeling that way is partly a me thing. but i've seen posts that also lead me to believe it's not JUST a me thing yaknow?#i always wonder whether the 'vocal subset' in any given fandom who hate a thing are really the majority that they appear to be#or if they just appear to be the majority because they've needed to be vocal about it as a sort of internet support group thing lol#which fair enough i mean anyone's entitled to be disappointed or have feelings#for me? i don't think i can remember ever being mad about a series i liked#i'm just here for the vibes man i very rarely have fixed notions#i say to the writers: go ahead and surprise me. i'll make sense of pretty much anything they throw at me#i also think about a dd quote i saw ages ago that as an actor you (paraphrased): can't say 'the character would not do that'#...because if it's in the script then by definition they *did* do that. it's right there on the page.#and that's kind of me as a fan too.#p.s. i fucking love season 8 i love angst and holy shit it delivers. the new characters are fantastic the journey is *chef's kiss* and#yes i consider certain temperamental even assholeish behavior to also be *chef's kiss* there's so much trauma so much reason for it#it's be-yoo-ti-ful š season 8 my beloved š#anyway watch it all watch none do what you want. just know that there are people who would cuddle the whole damn thing from start to finish#like a floppy wet lil raggedy ann doll if only they COULD#x files#the x files#txf revival#txf thoughts#i love you floppy wet raggedy ann doll
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okay but if we don't get peem and their friends throwing phum the biggest most chaotic surprise birthday party ever then what is the point
#like it's not gonna happen#BUT WHAT IF IT DID#I WOULD BE IN THE CORNER OF MY PADDED ROOM CRYING FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY THAT'S WHAT#if the show doesn't give this to us im gonna need someone to write a fic for it i just want it so badly#we are the series#phumpeem#i mean sort of#m: txt
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