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Reposting of something I posted 2 days ago - I had a conversation with the civil person and I decided to remove the reblog attachment because I knew that’d just lead to more issues. This is what the rest of my post said.
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I didn't wanna interact with this post at all (reblog removed) and I wanted to leave it be, but the people in this call-out and their friends have decided to drag me into it for some fucking reason and I want to get my voice out there. stop accusing me of shit and twisting the hell out of my words. Thanks. Idgaf if u have beef w my friends:
I AM NOT MY FRIENDS.
Just a bit of context,, We got banned from a server that was dehumanizing my friend and questioning her for her source and appearance as a nina fictive because I was “spying” HABIT (who was fronting at the time) had screenshotted nitpicks of what the people in that server had said about my friend and told her about the situation, in which the next morning we had two people dming me (who I will not name because I don’t want shit to escalate. I just want my point across) upset that we had leaked what they were saying about my friend in that said server.
It was also revealed that we were banned because one of the two people who had DM’d me was suspicious that HABIT was a spy. We had assumed it was because, in the server, there were not only mentions of my friend (the nina fictive) but us as well and Celeste and Danny, whom the people who were called out in this doc had bad blood with, and they didn’t want us knowing they were talking shit about us.
There had been a more civil conversation between the first person who DM’d me, so I don’t care about that. Though we aren’t as comfortable interacting with them anymore even if they are still a friend because of the circumstances. We’ll talk for now but keep our distances + im paranoid that something will happen to me for speaking my mind. But the second person was just accusing us of spying and only wanted to leak the messages of my friend to my friend, which first of all if I was spying, why are you so afraid and upset your chats got leaked? Hm? Because you’re aware that what you’re doing and saying is wrong.
I’m not a part of this doc and I never was. Idc if the people involved in this doc have some sort of beef with people they assume have made it and are taking it out on neutral parties, just stop. I’m not naming names. But if this escalates I’m leaking screenshots on here. Stop trying to make it seem like the people who aren’t even involved but deemed guilty anyways are fucking criminals and should be crucified for speaking up against you. Being a teenager/minor or also having disorders doesn’t make u any less problematic and ableist then you’ve already proven yourselves to be. That’s all I have 2 say thnx ^.^ ! !
Also, just an FYI the person who had gotten me banned (person number 2 that DM’d me) had claimed they got banned from my server, which they WERE NOT. This person has spoken about leaving servers and GCs by mistake numerous times before. I believe they also used this claim against me on why they thought it was a good idea to ban us, but the only reason why they weren’t brought back in immediately was because I wasn’t fronting and HABIT was already defensive because I was in a bad mental state. To which this person responded hoping that I’d feel better soon, maybe like an hour before getting us banned. Again. DO NOT INVOLVE ME. I AM A NEUTRAL PARTY AND NOT APART OF THE DRAMA.
I will only get involved if someone forces me in. Which is what happened. Idc about the doc and the people involved are irrelevant to me. I believed it was necessary reblogging because I’d been personally targeted as of today, and not only by the people in the doc, but their friends too.
+ things might be repetitive. I’m not proof reading English isn’t my first language so womp womp
ADDING ON —
I ain’t talking to these people again unless they approach me first. I deserve an apology and so do other people. We shouldn’t be your fucking victims because we personally know people you don’t fucking like. We are beings with our own lives too. They don’t revolve around the people you hate unless you make it seem like we do.
Also, we had talked to a friend of these 2, (3) (who is also a neutral party!! I’m not dragging them in whatsoever. And they had actually said that we were banned because HABIT was being ‘rude.’ Like stated above: HABIT was being blunt.
A friend who is also neutral, yet also got banned for the same associations, had warned the people who were talking to us that I was tweaking. HABIT did not out right state it was fronting but it didn’t say anything about people assuming it was me. Which I can’t blame. But I just love how people are being told we were banned for being RUDE (??) when the people who did actually fucking ban us did it bc of COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ACCUSATIONS.
ok im officially done
#creepypasta#fandom#repost#I removed the reblog#one civil person two not civil#I just wanted to get my voice out there#if you know what post im talking about then you know. if you don’t then you don’t#I realized that reblogging it would just make these people angrier with me#please don’t drag ppl in ur bs#drama#im innocent thnx#im not responsible for my alter doing the RIGHT thing#HABIT W#sorry 2 the people we blocked#or maybe not sorry#we had reasons
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I think it says something that Jimmy absolutely destroyed the crew and ship in half the time Curly was captain. Like he couldn’t even get them past 2 full months before breaking down.
Like he really couldn’t be half the man he thought Curly was.
#like I think it’s crazy cause the whole trip from when we start the game is like 6 months#they are only six months into the trip post crash it’s why getting help was so futile#they had to survive another 6-7 with almost no resources sense most actual food resources where blocked off or destroyed#I see people saying they were surviving for six months after the crash or at least five but it’s only two#they were on the ship for 4 months before hand like the time frames we play are extremely small in retrospect#it’s like what 187 days when we get into the game? that’s about 6 months total#like I’m sorry this is also about peop saying Anya was liek 5 months pregnant but I think a big point is the assault just happened and Curly#didn’t react to it correct initially cause like have you seen someone whose 5 months pregnant? Anya is clearly not even with artistic l#liberty like 2 months is perfect because it’s literally like the time when you confirm the pregnancy is stable and can feel the first signs#of life which is why she was getting worse and worse cause it was getting to the point she couldn’t hide it from Swansea and Daisuke and Jim#he already knew but imagine him seeing her with a stomach? he’d lose it completely#it was just showing signs of life hence the ultrasound and horse fetus and the heart beat#like the minimum time is around 8-10 weeks which is two months like the two months is super intentional both in accordance to what he did#and the time before hand#mouthwashing#anya mouthwashing#jimmy mouthwashing#curly mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#captain curly#nurse anya
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"sounds nice... having a partner"
#the walking dead game#twdg#violentine#clementine twdg#violet twdg#MAANN when clem says this in s3 JUST WAIT BBY#people who say clemvi has no basis like ep2 isnt just them working as a team for 2 and a half hours regardless of player choice#like be fr#clem telling louis that violet patching up the back wall is ok because she needed something to keep herself busy. married behavior#vi asking clem to help check in on everyone while she deals with the wall. their shared smile when she comes back outside :)#and then they sit in the leadership spot together overlooking the yard and everything theyve planned together coming to fruition :)#sorry i just think their romance set up in eps 1 and 2 is obvious as FUCK and im tired of (Some) people pretending it isnt#'i havent seen her warm up to someone in a long time' brody literally tells clem that vi seems to like her after its been 24 hours#after shes been a block of ice for a whole year. and clem just melted those walls down immediately while they fought walkers together#violet is so devoted to clem post ep1 its embarrassing for her#'i saw she had you pinned and i- shit i got So crazy...' sorry if you dont think shes in love with clem idk what to tell you#'i'll tear that boat apart before we leave without you' i know you would girlie!!!#the animators went CRAAZAYAYAYAY the way they look at each other... their little smiles at each other....even before the belltower#the way clem looks at her while they dance.... the way she puts her head down on her shoulder so contentedly....#and then she keeps her head on violets shoulder as she pulls away so clems chin gets dragged with it like she doesnt want to let go#'so you never forget that night' 'i never will' they are DISGUSTINGLY in love with each other it makes me physically ill#its 2024 and im still hearing 'i just didnt see it :/'. lazerbeams you#spaced art 2024
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Sorry but personally disagree with everyone mad that Hunter wasn't there when Belos died. Like you are absolutely allowed to have wanted to see that confrontation but idk personally I don't think Belos deserved that. Hunter already had his final confrontation with Belos in Thanks to Them and personally I wouldn't want to shoehorn him into the final confrontation just so I could have every detail of Belos's life spelled out when we already have enough details to piece together the story on our own.
#toh#toh spoilers#the owl house#the owl house spoilers#seriously i cant believe people are ripping apart the finale on this point#you dont have to love the finale. i had issues with it personally#but like besties!! im sorry hunter isnt the main character#plus he has a major role in 2/3 of the finale episodes#hes good! we dont need him to interact with his shitty uncle anymore#toh critical#well critical of fans#but just in case people wanna block any discourse
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okay. so. our facet Faucet is our secret keeper, and we did not ask [ ] permission before introducing this blog to others. so [ ] isn't very pleased, to say the least.
#sorry faucey.#[ ] has a lot of anxiety. full of The Symptoms. i think we're all full of The Symptoms quite frankly. but that's okay.#if Faucet turns out to be okay with it later then we carry on using this blog like normal. system blog and plural journal together.#if not then the two options are: 1) turn this into the system blog and make a new private diary-esque sideblog.#2) soft block new followers (sorry we appreciate you its just anxiety hgkj) and keep this for friends. make a new fresh system account.#1 requires us to private a bunch of vent things and private info. which will take a while to go through and filter hgkj#we'd be able to move without hassling followers but i don't think Faucet would let ANYONE in on that new diary account so like?? hgkj??#2 would be nice to start fresh and shit but we do have a lot of things we'd want to transfer over again. it'd take much more work i think?#and we dont want to softblock people and make them refollow a new account hgkjg also we LIKE our blog name here hgkj#i guess we could just exchange blog names? oh it just kinda sucks either way? dang :']#man. it always feels like we're retreating. Faucet trying to keep us hidden. it /feels/ safer but it's far from healthy.#as it stands i don't think we can keep straddling the line between keeping this private forever and wanting to be part of the community.#its not possible to do both. something has to give.#anyway. those are our thoughts. :']
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everytime i think im done ranting i remember something else LMFAO this one is extra long i hit tag limit god mf damn
#self#for instance.....my mom wants me to cut off everyone who is still tied to the school#and im so mad at myself for feeling a certain type of way when the campus manager called me not too long ago basically to tell me she doesnt#trust the girl who did this shit and she wasnt mad at me but was also mad at me for bringing her to her dads house#for reference we were trying to get a cat from the campus managers dads house LMFAO#and i honestly cannot wait to speak to her again and be like 😔 god dammit you were right like you were every single time#i just dont understand the wiring in her head to think the shit she says and does to people is normal and okay and how she doesnt realize it#is literally a mental health break. when i finally told my mom the first thing she said was shes probably off her medication#which.....probably isnt wrong sadly coming from someone who has borderline and very easily can lose it#but the difference is i dont give in to the urges to try to hurt everyone around me in every way i can#and me and her have said before that we thought she might also have borderline because we were very similar#but god damn does she love proving that if she has it its extremely severe or its something else entirely#on an honest note. shes incredibly narcissistic and i know her mom is part of the reason shes that way bc she was given princess treatment#her entire fucking life and then doesnt understand when other people dont treat her the same way#i hate rambling about this and i hate it that it is bothering me so fucking bad but like ???#if youre going to decide that you can put our past aside period and move on then fucking do that and stop bringing the past up as a way to#hurt me and the people around you???? she acts like shes not done horrible fucking things to people. so sorry i wrote a letter that was very#honest at the time. so sorry that when you found out i apologized for it and said i regret it because 2 weeks after my apology i no longer#regret writing it. if its making school a living hell for you....theres probably a reason for that girlfriend#i am not the person who put that shit in your folder#though i seriously fucking doubt its actually in her folder shes probably assuming it is#and youre the one who made a complete ass of yourself to every educator that ever stepped foot in that building#that has nothing to do with me that you are a literal warning given to every new educator!!!! i havent even been in school there in months#yet IM the problem??? how am i the problem when i graduated in fucking january???? everything since then falls on you#AND YET AGAIN! MIGHT I MENTION! IT IS NOT JUST MY LETTER!!! THERES AT LEAST 2 OTHER ONES!!!!!#BECAUSE IM NOT THE ONLY PERSON SHE DOES THIS SHIT TO!!!!#god sometimes i sit back and realize that theres a reason she regresses as a person and i do not#im not going to sit still anymore and let someone walk all over me and she can thank herself for that#shes who taught me that blocking and running as fast as i can doesnt fix anything#so here we are bitch. youre not blocked and im sure youre sitting at home thinking about how youre right about everything
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#i dont get people who listen to t.aylor's new album just to hate on it. why do you do this to yourself#and i cant defend some of the lyrics but they literally cherry pick all the bad ones. ik you ignored 80% of the album to make this post 😭#like you really spent 2 hours doing that? when you can just block the tag and not listen to the album etc etc???#so annoying. and we always talk about how not everything needs to be deep and meaningful and sometimes we can just have fun#until it's abt ts lyrics omg. sick of it#and theyll use the tag too lol.#not defending her as a person or anything and you do not need to like her. but GET A LIFE!!!! sorry#vent#i guess
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"they act soooo married, they have to be in love there's no other explanation!!" actually there are plenty of other explanations, such as:
Aromanticism
#they are clearly in a relationship#they call each other partner that means theyre on love#this must be romantic!#aro culture is having all your favorite fandoms tags blocked bc you cant stand seeing what amatonormativity has done to it#this post is specifically about how ppl will be like yes a queerplatonic one#theyre platonic life partners they told me themselves actually#this isnt me saying you shouldnt ship characters romantically like no not at all. go ahead do it its fun and its free#but for the love of moses sumney please just say you ship it bc you think they have chemistry#instead of saying they have to be in love bc theres no way for anybody to care abt someone that much unless theyre in love with them#bc 1. thats arophobic and 2. it makes me question your relationships with the people in your life#literally all im asking is think before you say something bc being aro and trying to navigate fandom spaces is already traumatizing enough#also stop shitting on qprs like even if thats not the dynamic you want for your ship doesnt mean you get to ruin it for the rest of us#also im annoyed how ppl will see 2 characters who have platonic feelings for each other and live together and are raising a child together#and be like#like babygirl (derogatory) that is literally a queerplatonic relationship youre witnessing with your own eyes#if you want to be boring about it go somewhere else but we barely get relationships like that so im prepared to defend it with my life#sorry for the long tags <2#aromantic#ew.txt
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Dallas Clowns Cowboys
Playoffs are here so ill make a tiny introduction of my dumb favs (under a read more because this is LONG)
Dak Prescott: our beloved quarterback <3 you either hate him or love him. But he is a really nice guy and doesnt deserve the amount of hate he gets. Always injured so please pray for his body. He has been through a lot pls he deserves nice things. #4
Zeke Elliott: He loves Dak more than every other human on earth combined. He is DumbTM but his smile brightens up the room and thats enough for me! Running Back and team clown. He used to wear the jerseys as crop tops and he should bring it back asap. #21
Micah Parsons: linebacker and DPOTY of my heart (bosa fuck you) Its just his second year. He is dumb but very pretty and VERY fast. He spent one afternoon giving fans gas money on twitter because yes. #11
Trevon Diggs: his son is funnier than him. Cornerback and also very dumb <3 Yes, stefon's little brother #7
DeMarcus Lawrence: The Boss of our defense and unofficial pep-talk giver. Defensive end. #90
CeeDee Lamb: we do NOT say his real name. I named this blog after him when he was just a rookie, thats how much i love him. Man likes nice smells, candles and dogs, he is perfect. Wide Receiver. #88
Tony Pollard: Running Back. You either get him or Zeke. He is fast and likes stressing me. #20
Dalton Schultz: Tight End. People forget about him and thats very rude imo because i love him very much. #86
Michael Gallup: my fav acrobat <3 Wide Receiver #13
KaVontae Turpin: he is very tiny (for NFL standars, he is still taller than me) and very dumb im so soft for him. Oficcially a wide reciever but he is our return specialist mainly. He gets excited when he sees Fellow Tiny Men on other teams. #9
Cooper Rush: our backup quarterback. No offense Coop because i love you but the less i see you, the better #10
And thats it im tired and its almost 5:30 am <3 i swear they are nice boys please even if you dont support them, dont hate them (if you are a philly fan... im sorry)
#plus we play brady and who tf wants to see brady win AGAIN?#dallas cowboys#im not tagging the players this is a very dumb post that makes no sense#also yes im still on hiatus but these are the playoffs it was worth breaking it over this post imo#also 2 i TECHNICALLY have a football sideblog but i just use it as an archive for random gifs#so you all get this on main <3#also 3 i could make a long af post talking about zeke and dak because their friendship is so special to me#but then half of you would probably block me so. I wont <3#ANYWAY#please be nice to them (and me)#i already suffered when people were hating on luka all the time back when i was still on the NBA fandom so pls just dont hate them#sgahskj#<3#okay you may now keep watching basketball im going to sleep because its late AF#i feel bad for everyone that knows me/this blog because of rm or stuff like that because they must be like laura wtf???#sorry
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Hey guys! Just a reminder I am very much still a person!
#sorry but people are pissing me off today#don’t try and manipulate me into feeling bad for not texting back#I have a memory issue that is genuinely debilitating so no I am not just ignoring you or uninterested#it’s a sure fire way to ensure I will either 1 actually ignore you or 2 block you#and if I say something is over my boundaries stop asking for it!#god some people have no form of respect for the people they want power over#and guess what you don’t own me because we talk or exchange pictures#also why would you ask me if I’m heavily autistic???? what does that even mean????#honestly might not be online much today because of this stuff it’s made me feel really shitty
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many notifs, but i sigh
#just me hi#it's just the slightest bit bothersome when i get like 7-18 notifications and they're all likes and 1 (one) bot follow hsbfhs#i'm not turning off notifs for them though because i like seeing the same people drop by and i see it as a hello. but strangers why do you#knock on my door and you don't even shake my hand? c'mon man i don't bite ! ᵐᵘᶜʰ#/oh but there was that one time i left for like 2 days and came back to like 6 bot follows rapid-fire#in a Row it was ridiculous#and in the midst. one actual person that i almost blocked#sorry person i almost blocked (and reported). i forgot your name but your icon had some red and green in there somewhere. and i think pink#actually don't listen to me i don't think i actually remember Hfhsfvb#oh and there was one time i Did mistakenly block and report bc it looked like rb spam on their side#i am so sorry. high chance you will not see this bc i haven't seen you in my notifs ever afterwards [o-o;] but yea sorry about that ~+~+~#//and now! the weather#It'S GETTING COOLER YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BABYYYYYYYYYY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YEYYAASS#//and now sports :)#i'm getting new skatesssss YeaAAA BAYYYYBEEE-#//and back to the news :))#i also asked for a lego set :DDD#want an ocean-themed one because i like water. and also the blue bricks look edible#i will not eat them i promise. i promise. double pinky promise. on my Word#we will not have a repeat of those last.. how many.... it was some! no repeats. i will not eat them :)#//now i'm going to finish this thing i'm drawing and then also finish this comic i have#i guess i'll post on webtoons because the vertical scroll will work well for my horrible formatting#/and also my tags might get cut lol#so Boom! Bon Voyage !!!
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#sorry to any recent ghira///link enjoyers#happens about once every 2-3 years#we are on the 'how dare you say we piss on the poor' website what more can we expect#i feel kinda bad that I'm wary of anyone who likes Ghirahim now tbh. guilty until proven innocent but the block button offers no second try#sometimes I see friends/mutuals reblog from blogs I know to be Fucking Weird about them but like. i don't say shit!! i don't fucking care#mind your own business and I'll mind mine#I do hate that blocking isn't like. completely block. i can still see if someone reblogs from someone I've blocked/they blocked me#it's funny to figure out though when I try to reblog and it goes oops! your connection doesn't work :( sorry!#ngl a couple of times I've been like. did i accidentally block my own side blog 😭#tumblr stop being a coward and just straight up tell me. I'm from more cows than people county my connection never works 😭#and with the whole bot seige I did accidentally block people who were real 💀 sorry lmao#vagueposting#yeah. this is pretty vague. iykyk don't hmu. real ones only (said like an emo teen on Snapchat)#ALSO I'm sure the people directly involved have dealt with this before I'm directing this to the unfortunate few who followed me#for something other than zelda and ended up sucked into this. sorry xoxo✌️
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Now think about the fact that it is legal to carry a baby on your lap in an airplane.
It is not legal to have a laptop on your lap during taxi, takeoff, or landing. But a living, breathing, heavier-than-a-laptop baby? Sure, that’s fine.
The only reason that’s allowed is that not enough babies have died. Not enough blood has been spilled to write a law with.
Always buy your baby a ticket on a plane and always use their car seat on board. Airplane seatbelts do not fit people under 40lbs properly. Don’t let them write that law in your baby’s blood.
Source: I am a child passenger safety technician, this is what I do.
Additional source: The FAA’s very own website: https://www.faa.gov/travelers/fly_children
#additional notes: you can install a rear-facing US car seat on a plane like you would with a seat belt in the car#with possible variation due to the airplane seat belt only being a lap belt#baby needs to sit next to a window or anywhere in the middle section of a 2-aisle plane#so that they’re not blocking other passengers#car seats are equipment like crutches or a cane and don’t count against bag allowances#you cannot use a base for a rear facing only seat on board#same for a booster#but we advise carrying those on board and stowing them#those are also technically equipment despite any grief you might be given#because checking a car seat is heavily discouraged#just like you wouldn’t check granny’s heart meds you shouldn’t check your kid’s lifesaving device#it could get lost or damaged during the trip#sorry to preach and use scare tactics it just frustrates me so much when I see people not keeping themselves and their babies safe on planes#original oatmeal
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okay my one bitchy little personal post about the mess. Jesus fucking Christ why do I have to be in graduate school at the most annoying possible time.
#kazoo noises#Like yes okay people everywhere are suffering and due to the nature of the world i and the rest of the universe are acutely#Aware at all times#In addition to any level of personal suffering we must endure as just living people.#I as an early twenties adult in school still hunting for job 2 have incredibly minimal resources to do anything about the small suffering I#Have to rock with#Much less the Big Problems.#Like. I barely survived last year of grad school. It’s a miracle I managed to finish the year.#I’m away from family I was in a depressive haze for about three months I basically blocked out October and November from my brain#And when I hung out with my classmates all they wanted to talk about was MORE FUCKING SUFFERING#and not even come up with ways to like. Idk. Staunch the bleeding?#Babes I’m sorry if your librarian came out of this fucking program they’re gonna shoot themself in front of you when you ask them for help#Finding a fucking book they don’t like or haven’t heard of.#I mean I won’t bc I seem to actually understand being around like. Non chronically online people in their 20s#Who think vocational awe will pay for groceries. Idk I really thought school in the south would be nice bc like#People would get what it’s like bc u know. Ur in the south and times are hard. Obvi we need to work with what we got#Nope! These people spend all their time making fun of failed utopian communes and then proceed to fantasize about making one but bloody#Sorry I just really don’t want to be in school during an election year when it’s not just one mr ‘can the Revolution let me finish my beer’#But like. All of my classmates are like this. Guys this field is a public sector one for public good. Why do all of you panic when there’s#The public?! Have fucking none of you people done customer service before???#Cannot believe I’m in these classes and hanging out with the info science people who are wizards to me and international students#Who barely understand me. Sad state of affairs#Anyway sorry for bitching but like can my classmates consider experiencing joy so I don’t have depressive spirals both years of my masters#I have enough wrong with my life without these fucking rubberneckers dragging me into it#Whoopsie Daisy sorry for vent posting everyone do you still think I’m sexy and fun and pleasant??? :333
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Oh… so a video I made complaining about how ads act like Tumblr is dead started to get attention on tiktok…
don’t worry guys, I privated the video before it got too out there, so we won’t get an influx of tiktok people on here… close one though…
#sorry guys#only expected a couple people to see that#at most we will have 100 coming over…#in the least 1 or 2#honestly I’m only gatekeeping this from tt#bc of how different the culture is on here#also bc it’s mostly kids#kids who don’t understand#block and move on#tiktok#cat rambles
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Desperately holding myself back from replying to posts bashing certain ships in the main tags of shows.
Op isn't there to listen or have a good experience with fandom theyre just there to salt.
#repeats that last line like a mantra#the age of consent in european shows is lower and i need americans to deal with it rather than clutching their pearls because hes 17#just block the stuff you dont want to see im begging you#me. reading a post about a ship where the 2 people think theyre brothers but arent n theyre both immortals but ones 17 n ones 134#and they look like theyre 2 years apart#and im reading this like oh honey you have a problem with percieved incest in that fandom??? do u know the 4th most popular ship???#im like sorry i have seen fanworks from that fandom about the 17 yr old immortal and his 12 yr old actual half sister#just bewildered that thats the hill youre dying on here.#when their countries age of consent is 15. thats the ship youre having a problem with...#if people arent tagging the perceived incest right u can literally just ask them to#this isnt even the first ship salt post ive scrolled past#u people have never experienced a fandom ship war that shit is so unpleasant#begging u to accept that people have different tastes n writing interests that they project onto their blorbos but u dont have to look#can we not ship and let ship in 2023 stop dragging us back to the trenches#ive seen people shit talking pompous pep & swagger bishie these past couple years and its like#youre sending me back to stifling memories that i dont even have! cut it out! remember what ashes we came from!#owly rambles#delete later
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