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Hope everyone enjoyed today's QSMP Cinema event!
As expected, many VODs were unfortunately muted for certain animations because of copyright issues. I know some of the artists weren't able to catch everyone's reactions to their work, and I'm sure there are many other fans & VOD watchers who missed out too.
LUCKY I was able to archive Foolish, Roier, Cellbit, and Quackity's reactions to all the animations, and for anyone interested in viewing them, I'll be uploading them to Google Drive and will post the links here when that's available.
#mod talk#(Assuming Google Drive doesn't decide to be stupid ofc)#UNFORTUNATELY.... I DIDN'T SAVE PHIL'S............#I THOUGHT I DID. BUT I DIDN'T#ah well at least I watched him live and got to see that#Only one animation was muted on his stream but he had some fun comments about the Cucurucho design#I will be completely honest I prioritized these particular 4 because they're the ones whose POVs I was most interested in seeing#Hopefully the recordings can help out some other folks too though!#I told you guys earlier today that I didn't know how to record live#(I still don't)#HOWEVER I figured out a way to nab the recording before Twitch muted things#Adapt. Improvise. Overcome.#I also covered 8 people for the VOD Timestamp Archive today and it SUCKED I think I need to dial it back vis-a-vis timestamp recording
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Before we call anon rude because let’s see it from their perspective, imagine getting an entire feast to eat. That can be pretty hard to start with so much that’s going on, but if they start with one thing they know they’ll like (aka one character they like) that can be the start for them leaping to other characters to finish the story and the bigger story. I struggle the same way to start book series if I don’t have at least one character that drives me to read it, it’s all about what can be the hook to push them through. Sounds like the anon is neurodivergent (just a guess) so they might genuinely not see it as rude and see it as a solution to even play the game to start with.
Btw absolutely adore the game, the complex and rich characters making them all so unique is amazing. The art is so pleasing to the eyes I love it!! I’m waiting for it all to get out at once so I don’t get too impatient. Shae however interests me the most, which routes will have the most lore for them? Will there be routes that give more lore in general based on decisions you make or do they all share the same amount? (I mean general lore not just Shae lore)
Apologies; we are not trying to accuse any asker of being rude! We are simply explaining our perspective as the developers / are trying to broadly encourage folks to dip their toes into other areas of the story outside of the main route(s) they're interested in, especially considering some routes will be made available sooner than others, and these other routes will likely contain additional scenes/lore of everyone's fave(s) regardless! We want to give each main cast member an equal amount of love (and lore) regardless of their overall popularity, so our goal is not to tut-tut anyone for having strong preferences for one character over the others, but rather to explain that you may be surprised by how much *more* you learn about your preferred characters in the other routes. That's all!
For Shae... Well, they were a foot soldier for one of the worst periods of the War. Lore wise, any other story that touches on the War will likely have content relevant to them and their experiences. ^^
#ask#clotho answers#edit/final note: we got a *few* asks on this subject and will not likely answer all of them for the sake of our followers' dashboards#but we also want to note that part of our encouragements here come from the fact that Flan/Keagan are our most popular characters by a lot#and we want to do what we can to gently nudge folks who may not want to romance the fem / nb characters into checking out their stories#despite not being into them romantically. this is half of why we have platonic routes to begin with#we recognize veterans to the dating sim world may feel less inclined to romance characters that don't align with their irl orientations#this isn't a bad thing. some people steer clear of dating sims altogether because they're aro or just not interested in romance stories etc#but the unintentional side effect of this is it has a chilling effect on developers even in the indie sphere to make less diverse stories#if Flan and Keagan are our most popular characters then they will be our most *profitable* characters in the long run#and as much as we would love to not care about money and just produce the story we want to tell#we live in a society (tm) and need to eat#if at the end of ndm's development we see that 90% of our engagement went toward the boys it is hard to ignore the financial incentive#to redirect our energy toward leaning into the 'tried and true' formula that assures we can buy groceries and make rent#basically what i am candidly saying here is capitalism is pretty bad for creative liberty unless you're already rich / able to self finance#which we are not. and currently none of the core devs make *anything* from ndm#it would be nice if it does turn a profit but that isn't a guarantee - which the team has accepted as a normal risk in game development#anyway this is getting rambly but the Point is that this goes beyond us wanting to make sure all sides of our story are equally appreciated#it is *partly* that - we do want players to experience the entirety of our artwork#but it's not just for our egos - it's so we can keep making art like this#i considered including this in the body of the post but money talk suuucks man#and i don't want anyone to think we're glaring at them in a holier than thou 'ah-ha! you don't want to play maeve's route because she's a#woman!' sort of way because i think that's a reductive way to look at things#people like what they like and there's nothing intrinsically wrong with that#but if you like that we're making a diverse story#with masc routes fem routes and nb routes#even if you don't personally want to romance x or y#it would help us if y'all play the platonic routes#we are trying our very very best to make the fem/nb routes interesting for Everyone so those stories don't get sidelined#and if you don't like them for their own sake - fair enough! can't win em all and we'll deeply appreciate that you tried anyway!
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I'm so bad at actually remembering to recommend fics I like, but I was just reminded of "You And Me Were Built for Violence" and I wanted to take a moment and recommend it to folks if they haven't had a chance to take a look at it yet! It's a Fuga Impossivel + 2b2t crossover fic where Tazercraft are washed up on 2b2t shortly after their escape from Alcatraz and are found by none other than FitMC. It's got some great Fit/Pac content and some really good Tazercraft content. 10/10 fic! There's only two chapters so far, but they're both very satisfying and well written.
#i talk#fic recs#qsmp talk#I've got a ton of fics I need to recommend ahhhhhhhhh#I'm so burnt out I used to be so good at leaving giant paragraphs of comments on people's fics and making giant lists of fanfic recs#:(#ah well#anyways the author is on tumblr @ wsdanon if you'd like to follow them!#they just posted a bit about the fic and I was like OH YEAH I haven't recommended that yet#I'm sure most people in the Hideduo community have read it by now but if you haven't. you should#I like that Pac AND Mike were both stranded#I know a lot of people focus on ''what if Pac was stranded on 2b2t???'' but no. Tazercraft are a package. Do not separate them and all that#pftt#very well written Tazercraft (and Fit too ofc)#speaking of Fit - I'm taking some notes from his Egg event VOD because there are a lot of interesting tidbits in there#and I think folks will enjoy it as much as I am
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btw about Neil Gaiman I periodically agree with the 'Neil Gaiman is annoying' stuff bc I feel like both he and Amanda Palmer seem like people who I would go insane stuck in a room with bc we have very different ideas about art and suchlike. and I also do think that the career trajectory he's on lately is cynically redoing his greatest hits and pretending that was the dream all along when it clearly was not. which is at best meh.
having said which
as far as I can tell by far the most common complaint about Neil Gaiman is "Snow, Glass, Apples is problematic/gross/it's got incest and rape and frames the child as the aggressor"
which strikes me as a weird complaint to pull out of a 40 year body of work tbh when that short story is pretty clearly coming from a place of 'how far can I push this'. like you don't have to like the story. I don't really like the story. but it is. a horror story.
like and this is the thing with particularly 90s alt horror right? a lot of the interest is in transgression and sitting in the worst possible perspective and seeing what happens if you pull those strings. like I really like Clive Barker for example but there's a good chunk of his short stories that I'm like I'm not picking up what you're putting down Clive this seems Kinda Off. but that willingness to write some trite or Bad Message horror fiction that doesn't land is imo a side effect of being willing to try writing uncomfortable and unpleasant fiction at all. which is what horror is for, among other things, it's for creating discomfort as a form of catharsis or engagement.
like I am not a huge fan of the type of sex-horror that pops up in a lot of Gaiman's work and other contemporary horror writers - to me I don't find it upsetting or horny it just ends up feeling kind of edgy and tryhard - but I'm also a bit like. it does seem like a lot of people's beef with Neil Gaiman is that In The 90s He Was A Horror Writer
and this approach to Problematic Horror in Snow, Glass, Apples I find kind of microcosmic of how The Discourse often approaches art in this kind of 1:1 way. if you write a story which seems to line up with rape apologia it can only be because you agree with it. if you write a story about transphobia you're a transphobe. if you write a story that makes me genuinely uncomfortable you're attacking me.
but artwork, especially art like horror that's not necessarily trying to provoke enjoyment as its main response, is necessarily hit and miss. and if what you're shooting for is discomfort then whether it works, falls flat or goes too far incredibly depends on your audience. and making good art - as in art that makes its audience think, art that opens the audience up to discomfort and catharsis and sticks with them and changes them - requires the space to experiment and tbh the space to fuck up. like they aren't all going to be winners and they certainly aren't all going to work for you as a singular audience.
personally I don't see the appeal of Snow, Glass, Apples, less cause it's nasty and more cause it's hack. ooh an edgy monstrous version of a fairy tale where there's lots of rape and cannibalism? you're soooo original Neil. but like. that's fine. I don't really vibe with like 70% of Neil Gaiman stuff I've read but I still like Neil Gaiman because the stuff that works for me really works for me.
idk I think there's a lot of folk on this website who shouldn't interact with horror cause they clearly aren't interested in being horrified. that's not everyone who dislikes Snow, Glass, Apples, but it's a real undercurrent to a lot of the criticism and tbh this kinda vibe is shit for art. making standout art What Is Good also requires being ready to make art which stands out for the wrong reasons. sometimes they'll be the same art to different people.
#red said#not to Cancel Culture this but isabelle fall springs to mind in a lot of how folks talk about stuff like this#like she wrote a transgressive piece exploring her own negative feelings about transness and her anger around a transphobic trope#and she made something which i found really resonant and interesting#and she got torn apart for it because it Might From Some Angles Agree With Transphobia#and I'm not making a direct comparison. because i think attack helicopter is a really GOOD story and i think SGA is gratuitous and hack#but that's the thing right? transgression and discomfort and speaking about unpleasant things in an openended way are KEY#to making art that engages directly with your own pains and angers and discomforts#and that's hard to mediate tbh. but it's also very necessary.#i think as well thinking about Gaiman this is also a thought I've often had about Amanda Palmer#who over the years has written a lot of songs about things i find genuinely uncomfortable or offensive.#and i can engage with 'it's fucked up to tell your ex they transed their gender At You' or 'your partner's suicide is not about you' bc yeah#but#you can't celebrate someone for making confessional music then get mad because you don't like everything they confess#if you only take about your socially acceptable thoughts it's not really confessional is it?#if you only talk about discomforting things that people are comfortable hearing about its not really discomforting#and you can only really discern what's Good Transgressive and what's Damaging Transgressive through doing i think#so if you want challenging art you are going to have to get some art which challenges you and you go hmm no i still disagree#is what i think#so yeah you can hate the artwork but when an artist is specifically setting out to make challenging art it's weird to hate them#for making 50 pieces of art you like and 1 you hate
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Comparing oppression can sometimes give you insight as to what other groups of people go through. It teaches you what you have in common with people seemingly different than you are, and teaches you how you are different and how you can ally yourself better with other peoples.
However, if your goal is to prove you suffer the most between you and another person, you'll likely find that there is no conversation, just an endless barrage of back-and-forth to prove which of you deserves to be listened to.
The reality is that you don't have to be in the most pain in order to be listened to. So often, we are inundated with this idea that the person suffering the most is the only one who ought to be listened to, and it sends the message of "holy shit, I guess I don't matter. I guess I deserve to suffer if others are going through worse," and that's just unreasonable and unfair. Who has it worse is entirely contextual and changing, and sometimes it is subjective - as in, something that is earth-breaking for you is an average tuesday evening for the guy next to you.
Kill the cop in your head that says your voice will only matter if you prove yourself. Listen to other marginalized people and know it isn't a competition to see who can prove themselves most worthy of tine and energy. Our resources can (and should) be multifaceted and able to help a variety of peoples.
#intersectionality#talking to trans women and nonbinary folk and intersex people taught me so much about the idea that my oppression isn't entirely unique...#...and that taught me that i must have more interests in my heart...#...and it showed me that i have a broad community even if i didn't always feel it#that's one example#i understand why some people do that but i just can't help but wonder#and in spaces where it's expected that you prove yourself battle royal style i always notice that... nothing really gets accomplished...#...and that isn't always a bad thing! communities don't have to do tangible things in order to be important...#...but i just notice that people tend to be very defensive because they have to be and they express that they feel unheard...#it's a complicated and nuanced topic and i definitely am no spokesman...#...i'm commenting on a *general* trend i have seen in some spaces that isn't universally shared
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(single loud AA) (the forest goes silent immediately after) (birdsong returns moments later)
#i am once again begging everyone to recognize that we do not live in a world where pointing out the little idiosyncrasies of these people#causes them to spontaneously combust like a scooby doo villain#like yes cool you can report to me on these matters#but can we stop talking at length about how#'omg!! this PROVES this guy was lying!! about this thing everyone clearly knows he's lying about!!'#'because the playbook for this thing includes specifically lying about it!! surely now everyone will see this for what it is 😏'#like sorry to break it to you man but the atrocities happening in our world aren't happening because the people in power#just somehow don't know about them#and if someone just points out all the right things#then the people in power will be Enlightened!! and will immediately act in the most just way possible to prevent evil-doing#like newsflash idiot: Everyone Knows.#Everyone Knows Especially Those In Power And It Is Their Vested Interest For This To Keep Happening#it's the same frustration i have over people going#'omg!! this guy doesn't even realize it but there's a CLEAR DISCONNECT between his actions and his stated beliefs!! fail!!'#as some kind of gotcha#as if the people in question are not Literally Doing That On Purpose Because#SPOILERS folks ! ! ! !#the stated beliefs are either fake or deliberately misleading#it's part of the playbook folks#pointing it out won't cause them to have an ace attorney freak out where they're crushed by the moral and logical inconsistency of it all#sorry. i'm just. really sick of reporting that frames every little fucked up thing politicians are doing in the world as#'woah!!!!!! how can they not see that this is bad!?'#they know it's bad. put your outrage towards their goals not the funny little words they use to get there.#i don't need this gaping that acts like listening to gossip and activism are the same thing.
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such is the tale of a ✨chronically online hypocrite✨
#(please forgive this old folk’s rambling for a hot min bc i need to get this off my chest somehow and in some way)#tl;dr: come and get into the hw idol series!!! we have ship discourse; more ship discourse; even more ship discourse#(yes ik people should be free to ship what they do b u t claiming a noncanon ship as canon and forcing it on everyone else is. not cool.)#yes yes friday’s mv was visually cute and ino.rin’s singing was peak b u t i feel like it has caused more harm than good in some way???#i cant b e l i e v e the jp hwtwt beef over friday’s mv is still going on mannnnnnnnn#no less than 3 separate people have made posts along the lines of#‘p l s stop using [official tags] to post about *[unnamed] non-official ships* p l s there’s a time and place for everything’#and n o n e of them even remotely run in the same circles yet they’re all banded together against a *certain* group lmfao never change hwtwt#lhy (esp yhy) shippers are always at the scene of the crime mannnnnnn#i cant see anything on their end of the naval battle (has every single lhy tag+account that i could think of blocked)#b u t it’s still really funny to witness on my twtdash against my will. i think i need to touch grass#‘kyhn isn’t canon either so why do you like it while being such a hater towards lhy—‘#great question!!!!!! it’s bc (disregarding the movie) they actually interact really well together~~~ like the honeypre event y k—#and also bc yukki treats hina really nicely all the time (even when she was being tsun and literally running from her feelings for him)#a n d hina loved him for who he truly was; even before his image change arc. and she also does her best to appeal to him and such~~~~~~~#but lhy. uh. they just bully hiyo 95% of the time and while they do look out for her bc they’re pals#they’re just pals. guys. and lxl have gone ‘uwu it must be u uwu’ to each other one too many times so shoehorning hiyo between them would.#be pretty weird ngl? esp since the ‘widely accepted’ portrayal of lhy as a trio is p much just hiyo x 2 dudes who dont even like each other#and. like. a branch of such portrayals usually seem to have aizo waft away from the ‘r/s triad’ to date mona instead which is. very weird.#some people just pick and choose aizo and mona interactions dont they. all they see is the umbrella scene and go ‘ah yes. canon’#they dont even read further to see how mona doesn’t even use the umbrella after aizo leaves (clear rejection)#a n d how aizo doesn’t even remember giving the umbrella to mona + mona’s entire existence in general after that#and that’s not even counting the grudge mona refuses to let go of even after what looks to be literal months#so for certain shippers to just casually shoo aizo out of the hiyoharem and into mona’s unwilling arms for the sake of yhy is. weird.#and like. shouldn’t he and yujiro have a say in this?? they’re more interested in each other than hiyo so just how are they being commonly#portrayed as hiyosimps in fanon? im so confused… like. wouldn’t they be equally obsessed with each other (as w/ hiyo) if they were a rstrio?#aaaaaa get this off my twtdash plsssssssss pls see this post twtapp pls let this affect your dumb algorithm im tired of the ship discourseee#as funny as the ‘lhy vs the world’ naval warfare is it’s getting. um. very annoying!!!! and now im missing nagisa more than ever s o b s#plsplsplsplsplsplsplsplspls influence the algorithm ragepost; ik big brother is 👀watching👀 so do your thing—#(pls feel free to duke it out with me too if y’all read this i need my birdsite algorithm to le a r n that i dont wanna see stuff like this)
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xkcd
#i don't even care if people try to be interested! i just don't want them saying shitty things about it constantly#i get people have feelings about you know- not caring about football/sports when it seems like everyone else (the “normies” etc) does#but then most people i've been around socially (computer people and queer folks) aggressively tell you how much they don't care about it#and someone i follow today had a little joke about the super bowl being straight pride parade day and blah blah#and i was just feeling some feelings. but saw someone link this elsewhere and was like hey. that's cool thanks randall#xkcd#nfl
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The concept of a kglw album with orchestral backing is neat. The concept of it being a part 2 to an album I found really underwhelming is a bit frustrating.
#they can salvage it by being like 5-10% more direct about whatever the vibe was in pig album#or maybe not more direct so much as like... illustrative#pig album was cute but just being like haha we're zany and different and maybe some people would find that gross but we think it's cool 😎#in a very straightforward way as opposed to like sketching out the shape of things with metaphor or interesting imagery#or being more literal and giving some kind of name to the situation#was just very unsatisfying#and adding grand sweeping orchestral backing to that sounds cloying and like. cheap.#come on folks. if you got something to say then say it.
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LMFAO i shouldve known your takes were bad from the gman adoption stuff but uncle barney? really?
its like nobody appreciates a good headcanon nowadays
#what was with the sudden ''WE HATE THE BARNEY RAISING ALYX HC!!'' influx this month dude i just like the idea of alyx having a bunch of#loving adult figures in her childhood during A LITERAL WARZONE without her mother#this is like the strangest discourse ive ever witnessed because im not even like going out of my way to be like#ohhh if you dont like uncle barney you suck!! i dont do that#i just personally like uncle barney. because its like uncle kleiner (canon) and i think thats silly and fun#some of You people ... interesting folk#cats thoughts#cats asks
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wanna make a folk costumes of britain zine sooo fuckign bad.........
#folk traditions/music/dance/costume in england in /particular/ are so deeply repressed & mocked and ignored /within/ england#i listened to an interesting podcast examining the english folk music tradition and#how we as english lost something of ourselves in the plundering of others for empire and the incessant rise of industrialisation#however. there is still so much there. so many interesting traditions. so much oral history. so many regional variations#and if you live here it's here for anyone and everyone to take. it's yours!!!!!#waiting for you to find it if you only look for it. if you want it#anyway this was spurred by reading some american say their family was english on both sides and thus had no culture to feel tied to#which made me so sad because it's not true at all. there is always big tescos. (joke)#but fr wym 'no english culture' what is my ultraspecific interest then. lol#there is of course also a very pervading connection of english folk tradition with whiteness which we must both examine and break#because what is a folk tradition if it becomes the preserve of a very narrow demographic? folk means people.#it's of the people and that's all of us here and we must make it open if people so choose to take it#however that is a tag essay for another day and for obvious reasons i can only word things clumsily and do not have the right perspective#anyway once again this was a very long tag essay on my very specific interests. apologies#what it means to be 'from england' with everything that entails is endlessly complex and i think abt it all the time#wow these tags are barely related to the post anymore#is this like. a reasonable and normal post to make i dont even know anymore
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people buying vintage electrical test equipment and using it as synthesizers is one of the most annoying and cringe trends in recent memory. Fuck Heinbach.
#like folks you are not getting some unique and characterful filter or oscillator when you buy this stuff.#you are buying something that is carefully engineered to only generate the cleanest and least interesting signals possible.#the reasons you can hear them as ''warm'' ''musical'' etc is because you're a sucker#and are deeply prone to influencers who don't know what they're talking about.#the only things you're doing are making it more difficult for yourself to make music#and making it more difficult for people who have actual admiration and use cases for these devices to acquire them. fuck off.
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I think with popular ships when people say "it's boring" many factors can play into them.
Maybe you don't care for one or both of the characters, the fanonized version of said ship is so wrong but sadly it's the popular version of that ship, it's just your ship, all that whatever.
But it's the same case for even the less popular ships.
It may not be as popular, but that wouldn't excuse it from being boring to somebody.
#i like some popular ships and i also like ships that aren't as popular#if i don't it's just more of my own personal reasons#a ship is usually popular because it has a lot of context from canon provided for it that's one of the factors#'why is this ship so popular it's not all that great' yeah maybe not to you but it is to a bunch of other folks#but that doesn't mean your ships are any better because they're not popular#if people stop thinking so maybe there would be less ship drama and wars#because your ship popular or not don't interest somebody out there#just kiya's thoughts
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I think they didn't read the rest of Baker's letters because they just weren't really that gay lol. The "dirty" bit was probably the gayest they could dig up 😭 the evidence in this doc is really shoddy. Then again, if it was solid it wouldn't take a century to clock him
Sigh, yeah. Its so complicated. :( Like im all on board to accept any gay sports heroes who tear down the stereotype of gay men having to be effeminate and non athletic. And I absolutely hate when society will blatantly erase a very out and open historical figure's homosexuality or queer identity for mainstream stories/movies (cough stupid effing bendydick cucumbersnoot). We see this happen especially to women who were known to be lesbians during thier lifetime, and then modern biographers just gloss over that. So it's believable that it could have happened to this hockey star!
Unfortunately i kind of doubt it. The ONE big 1917 quote they actually gave from the letters between the supposed lovers was the hockey guy overseas writing to his friend back home about how he never understood the huge amount of affection his friend bestowed on him until now when he's missing him so much. And then he talks about the photo. This totally sounds romantic, and like someone discovering their sexuality for the first time (he was in his TWENTIES it is completely plausible if he was anywhere on the demi or ace scale that this guy just never thought about romance till now). But i think it ruins the 'researcher's theory that he and his friend were living as open lovers in 1914-1916. And it definitely feels in the podcast as if they are glossing over details in order support their theory and hoping nobody bothers to actually go do the research themselves. Another thing i found in my very cursory research last night is that apparently his friend introduced him to the woman he would get engaged with back in 1915 - she didnt meet him in the war!!!. And this guy wrote home to his dad about how he wanted to have a 'long talk' with his dad about his failed engagement. That totally sounds like the set up for potentially being a beard situation. But instead of presenting the facts and speculating on those words and letting the listener put them together the podcast barely uses the real words of the hockey guy's letters and tries to spin a narrative around it that doesnt feel real.
And i 100% do not believe this man committed suicide because he was afraid to return home and face homophobia. And the podcast just presents this like it's plausible and not their own wildly subjective opinion.
This is why it's so important to check sources and to always seek out as close to primary sources as possible.
#Aaaaaaaand that is why i have suddenly gone through 65 folders of the mudd library's collection to find this mans letters LOL#Some light summer reading#If i find a sweet romantic story i'll let you guys know#Also if the podcast thinks that people wouldnt be interested in hearing romantic words from historical queer letters???#Like wtf??? That shows that this is a sports podcast and not a history one#Because like dude us lgbqt folk eat gay and lesbian war stories up with a spoon#And like i 100% believe that lena from the pacific was some level of lavender and her marriage was her attempt at forcing a normal life#She was never interested in men up until that point and she never married again afterwards#Like i totally read lesbian into that#But i would never go around pretending its fact!!! :( cause she never identified as that and there is zero proof
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Some designs meowmitake posted from twitter
^ fnaf 6 henry
#blueycapsules#posting just because i think you some of you folks would be interested#and to help people escape from bc twitter as its looking really.... yeah.
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feeling nostalgic and watching utube reactors discover classic songs and then feeling both old and incredulous
#1980s music#like someone watching blondie's rapture and then stopping to go 'oh it reminds me of something it's so familiar'#different people (all younger) do this all the time and it can be infuriating#like it's an older song - did it ever occur to you that maybe what you're thinking of ... took inspiration from THIS song????#although in that case it was rather grandmaster flash and the nyc rap scene bc of course that's what the song was referencing#it's the boss baby meme but in music form#and i know i'm guikty of it too but at least in the correct direction - looking back to things that came before#not being aghast that a beat they've heard s thousand times was sampled from an old song that copied an older song lol#i will say that it is SO weird to me that peopke who say they are into hiphop never seem to reference the rap from my youth#like the late 70s and 80s sound that everything after is built on#and it's not like i know a lot about it beyond watching yo mtv raps at night lol#but i had to watch kids struggle to recognize the warren g regulate sample from michael mcdonald#like SO much of the early sampling era was just tons of samples of old records - anything they didn't have to pay for#and then listening to things and going oh this sounds like the weeknd - bro the weekend sounds like 80s songs#he sings and structures the songs in similar ways to classic tracks rather than the current trend (sometimes)#gah i'm just ranting here rather than in some poor utubers comments#i wish i had some fellow old folks to jabber with#but even when i was in high school i didn't have any friends that liked the same kind of music as i did#bts getting me more interested in music and watching videos has really been a double-edged sword sigh#everything with a live studio band with bass in it: 'oh this sounds like disco'#or worse something literally built off a disco sample and it's like they've never heard a disco song other than ymca in their life
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