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whats-in-a-sentence · 11 months ago
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Tyndale argued that if a husband is violent to his wife, she must patiently bear it, both for the improvement of her marriage and for the order of society:
Euen so think you, if thou canst suffer an extreme husband, thou shalt haue a great reward therefore: . . . if wee be bound to hold out our left cheeke to strangers which will smite vs on the right cheeke: how much more ought wee to suffer an extreme and vnkind husband?
But if by such fortune thou chancest vpon such an husband, take it not too heauily, but suppose thou, that thereby is laid vp no small reward hereafter, & in this life no small commendation to thee, if thou canst be quiet. But yet to you that be men, thus I speake, Let there bee none so grieuous fault to compell you to beat your wiues.
"Normal Women: 900 Years of Making History" - Philippa Gregory
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flora-tea · 3 months ago
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It's so weird and messed up to me how society puts marriage on this pedestal as something we must aspire for as part of growing up, and how it's literally treated as something folks in committed long term relationships have to do in order to be "truly committed" or "truly serious" or "truly longterm".
Like why does a relationship have to have a legal contract involved that is sanctioned by and dissolvable only by the law to be considered valid and true?? Why do folks have to enter a legal commitment contract to be considered "actually truly for-reals serious" long term partners? Goverment's really gotta be in our business in order for us to be seen as fully adults or for partnerships to be seen as fully valid? Hell no!! You kidding me?? Society so weird for that fr 😭
No hate to anyone ofc, but the way marriage is largely considered an expectation for people and for partnered relationships is so weird and damaging.
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starry-eyer · 8 months ago
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‘daenerys will sacrifice herself at the end’ is something i am sick of seeing
this young female character has been set up by george as a very very progressive ruler who is hellbent on on making lasting societal change
a young female ruler who has the power to make this change, a young female ruler who truly cares about her cause
and yet people want her story to end with her death? how would this ending be thematically consistent? how would this ending benefit the common people in any way?
the people spouting this nonsense always prattle on about how the targaryens being in power at the end of the story is just a continuation of the old power structure
as if asoiaf is some black and white story where the old power structure either resumes or there’s going to be some sort of peaceful democracy after the targaryens are gone
like be so ffr
george has always been upfront that he’s interested in the choices of individuals and how his characters choices can shape the world they live in. so why would he throw away this young female ruler who’s currently smashing the slave trade that has been around for thousands of years in order to go for this bland message that her death will mark the end of the previous power structure?
when i put it that way i am astonished by how stupid it sounds
so, if you actually want societal change in westeros and essos then you better pray every single night that daenerys doesn’t die :)
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genopsychos · 18 days ago
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Thinking a lot about how the Sith were once an actual people with its own society, culture, and practices and now the whole species is gone and their legacy has degenerated into a two man band abuser dynamic cult. The Sith were a massive empire of its people and then thousands of years later they're two people with no ties to Sith heritage hiding away in the shadows. The Baneite philosophy removes that societal aspect of the Sith and centers it wholly on the purity of the Dark Side, power and control above all else.
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ego-similis-testudines · 2 months ago
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I may very well be swinging a bat at a hornet's nest, but I find it very interesting that the crowd that (rightfully) says "Read another book" to Harry Potter fans among the J.K. Rowling bullshit has a not-insignificant overlap with the crowd that has also only read one book (and that book is Whipping Girl).
#and they don't even read it particularly well for how much they insist that everybody reads it#the premise is that transphobia is rooted in sexism. more specifically misogyny#you would think that that the reader would make the logical connection and say 'hey this group of men who grew up as women also experience#sexism and more specifically misogyny due to having been forced to grow up as women'#and instead the prevailing conclusion is 'trans men have male privilege and are oppressing their fellow trans people -#- by virtue of being men'#or bullshit like 'trans men really are the men of the trans community' when we dare to speak on issues that are specific to our section of#the community and the overlap between FTM oppression and overall societal misogyny. the mind boggles#in order to have male privilege you first have to be seen as a man by society at large. and that does not apply to trans men nor to trans -#women. they see trans men as delusional little girls and trans women as whatever slur they can think of. but not as men usually#we are supposed to be playing for the same team and yet some of you are tackling your teammates on the field for no reason other than -#wanting a scapegoat#'read Whipping Girl 🙄' I did. years ago now. but did YOU?#to those i'm discussing: feel free to call me a transandrobro or a theyfab or whatever. IDGAF. just block me after you inevitably do it#LGBT#trans#sexism#misogyny#TME/TMA#trans men#disk horse#transphobia#transmisandry#transandrophobia#anti-transmasculinity#intracommunity issues#intracommunity transphobia
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serpentface · 3 months ago
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What's the Wardi cultural take on Akoshos sleeping with/partnering with/marrying other Akoshos?
It's not highly regulated to a degree that there are overwhelming cultural norms about it. There's a lot of societal focus on akoshos being theoretically suitable sexual partners for both men and women due to being dual-gendered, but not to an extent that relationships with One Another are stigmatized.
They also largely get to escape from the most severe concerns about penetrator/penetrated power dynamics because they're not regarded as Men (they're regarded as dual-gendered, and they're a female social class on every practical level), there's no status of manhood to Lose by receiving sexual penetration. The only real thing you see in that department is people assuming that one acts as 'the man' and one acts as 'the woman', but this is largely due to preoccupation with a notion of sex being Penetration With A Penis (and that Penetration With A Penis means that one person is in a Man's Role and one person is in a Woman's Role). But this will not be regarded as unnatural as in same-gender male relations, akoshos will Have to take up a position in this sexual dichotomy if they want to have Real Sex (Penetration With A Penis) with each other, and this is not unnatural and doesn't involve gaining or losing status since they are simultaneously male and female, not men.
So like you might see individual culture critics finding stuff to nitpick about it as their annoyance of the week or a singular Guy here or there who thinks it's weird, but this isn't a widespread norm. The vast majority of people don't give a shit about akoshos having sex with each other. The worst thing you're likely to experience Solely by virtue of being in an akoshos-akoshos relationship is someone asking you (probably with genuine curiosity) which one does the man stuff and which one does the woman stuff.
Akoshos also don't experience Hard expectations for marriage (though there are societal pressures that make marriage an attractive safety net all the same, ESPECIALLY marriage to a man) so unofficial life-partnerships between akoshos are pretty much the Only same gender partnerships between unwed people that are going to go unquestioned. ((Sworn brotherhood is technically a same gender life partnership for men that is Functionally similar to marriage (in that it's a kin-making practice between unrelated adults), but the tradition is Built upon the assumption that both parties will be married to women and that a primary goal of this kinship is to provide security for both parties' wives and children)). Marriage obligations in general are more lax in the economically secure but not Wealthy lower mercantile classes (as obligations to support and perpetuate one's family are universal, but these obligations can be filled simply by having at least One son who can get hitched, and marriages in the lower classes have no political functions and therefore there's less reason to ensure All your children are wed (there's still incentives like dowry, but this is not desperately needed when a family is economically secure)). So akoshos in this class group tend to have a Lot more freedom in terms of their life arrangements and chosen partners (though still experience the limiting frameworks of structural misogyny in other capacities).
The only thing that is out of the picture is akoshos/akoshos marriage. Marriage in this society has a predominantly reproductive function, the concept of reproductively non-viable marriages is generally considered absurd. This is not JUST this culture's form of homophobia, as marriage is a very practical arrangement at its core - both in a reproductive capacity and as bedrock for the patriarchal blood-kinship family system that forms the core social unit. The idea of same gender marriage isn't just absurd because 'ewwww weird' it's like, that Cannot work within this system, it Cannot fill core functions of what a marriage intends to do here, the ways on which marriage and kinship are BUILT makes same gender marriage practically (rather than just socially) untenable.
The sole exception to the 'marriage = reproductively viable" rule is that akoshos can be married to men (which in practice is almost always as a remarriage after a man has secured At Least an heir). This has a Little bit of internal logic here in that they perform predominantly female social roles (thus are suited to being a wife, even if they can't bear children) (and also on practical levels of them having the same legal status as women) but it's really more of a 'this is just how it's always been' kind of thing. A lot of the older pre-Wardi identity dual-gender roles that got mashed together under the 'akoshos' name would have involved marriage to a man as a second wife/concubine, in addition to his primary wife who would bear his children. Men potentially having multiple spouses has not been retained as a cultural practice, but the notion that an akoshos Can be a wife to a man has survived into modern day legal and doctrinal practices around marriage.
So like this being said, marriage as it is legally defined is only between a man and a woman, a man and an akoshos, or a woman and an akoshos. In practice the latter two are comparatively VERY rare- a man/akoshos marriage cannot provide children (though an akoshos can practically fulfill all other obligations and duties of a wife), a woman/akoshos marriage Can provide children (and while akoshos cannot function as a male heir, these children Will take their akoshos-parent's family name (though the wife retains her father's family name)), but akoshos are legally grouped with women in terms of rights and privileges (including being permanently under legal domain of their father unless they have been legally handed off to a male husband) and Cannot provide hard power patriarchal support that this family system is built upon and therefore depends upon, which makes these marriages socio-economically insecure. They can obviously still be a good partner and parent, but this is not the same as having the Legal hard power of a patriarch.
Akoshos marrying each other would be reproductively and socially nonviable, and is treated as a similarly absurd concept to a man marrying a man or a woman marrying a woman. It's just not a part of the marriage and kinship framework, it's not a thing that you can Do.
#Akoshos are also probably like.... 1-2% of the population. Like its an Accepted gendered space but not a large one so it's less#'managed' in a lot of senses#It's actually kind of hard to 'access' the akoshos space to begin with. Like parents look for Signs In Early Childhood and most#akoshos are typically assigned their gender early.#If you don't manage to access this space there's a good chance of being Stuck as a man with any deviance from your expected#gender roles being the HIGHLY unaccepted 'male effeminacy' which is a VERY different concept than (though obviously has tensions With)#being akoshos. A lot of akoshos self-label as adults after losing support from their families in part for being '''effeminate men'''#(this is also kind of the only instance in which gender self-identification occurs on a basis that will be Broadly accepted. Though#this happens in the context of already being detached from one's familial support network and people not knowing you self-assigned)#There are also certainly Some cases where akoshos self-identify as adults and this is accepted by their fathers. For a variety#of reasons but unfortunately often it's going to be like-#'we must have missed something but whatever. glad our kid is actually supposed to be this way and isn't just effeminate'#Also much less likely to be accepted if they're an expected male heir without brothers to take up the role in their stead#And VERY unlikely in upper classes where family members are public figures. If you've been introduced as a man here you're probably#out of luck.#(Like you'll see accusations that adult-assigned akoshos are just pretending in order to disguise being male effeminates)#This position isn't freedom from gender norms or like. The equivalent of an accepted trans identity. It's its own assigned gender#space in an Expanded but strict binary with expanded but strict roles#Also the societal trends over centuries are showing signs of increasing collapse between the notions of 'effeminate man' (bad)#and 'akoshos' (normal). At this point the concepts are still very separate but the current societal trajectory is leaning towards the#akoshos role being phased out of its normalization (in tandem with Wardi culture becoming more intensely patriarchal with#the collapse of Wardi groups into one identity)#Like 600 years ago there was NOT a concept of 'effeminate man' and proto-akoshos roles were a#more central concept that enveloped divergences from expected masculinity. Whereas now the akoshos space is significantly narrower#and the concept of 'effeminate man' exists in tandem as a stigmatized descriptor. And things have gotten to the point of#people claiming that ''effeminate men'' will 'pretend' to be akoshos#The akoshos identity becoming stigmatized/phased out isn't inevitable but the tensions around it are definitely growing#Though there's also a sense that Peak Patriarchy has been hit and you're starting to see people pushing back at these norms in fairly#notable ways. There's not going to be like. A feminist revolution but civilian women getting more political freedoms (while the overall#context stays patriarchal) is a likely outcome which could also have side benefits of relaxing masculinity standards Somewhat
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kingmintyreturns · 10 months ago
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ursula-legun · 1 month ago
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Call me whatever kind of weirdo political label you like, but it is insane to me how de-emphasized non-human ecocide/genocide/specicde is.
I know that everyone - including myself - has massive anthropocentric bias when it comes to processing death, and the reasons for that make sense in the abstract (even if I think this should be shifted heavily.)
But, like, entire ecosystems are disappearing. Species, and the relationships between them, are literally being eradicated on a daily basis. We are barely even aware of most nonhuman culture, and it's getting destroyed at a rate beyond what we can measure; not only does the loss of life (by any metric - organism count, expected lifespan lost, biomass, etc) massively outstrip anything humans have ever experienced, but the loss of kinds of life or ways of life are being destroyed at, again, a rate beyond what anyone is bothering to quantify right now.
It makes sense to me when people are relatively unconcerned about this because they aren't aware of it. But when somebody has even a fractional understanding of the environmental devastation happening at every moment...even given the (tremendous) relative emotional weight that people place on human life, I don't understand how anybody can know about this but not prioritize it.
And unfortunately, even half-heartedly prioritizing nonhuman life massively shifts so many decisions in both day-to-day life and broad-spectrum politics that it feels like. A completely different set of conversations to be having. As environmental collapse roots deeper into mainstream political discussion, I feel like this is getting to be a more and more stark contrast - the political goals/desires of people who are becoming concerned about environmental collapse, purely for the potential human consequence, are so many steps away from the goals of environment-for-its-own-sake that things become almost untranslateable.
IDK. I think that in some ways I am feigning confusion to myself about this because it's....kind of necessary to do that...to continue having regular interactions with other human beings..................but on other levels, I am genuinely baffled.
The most profound anthropogenic environmental impacts of the last ~400 years were, charitably, mostly inadvertent; they stem from a combination of "acceptable losses," colonial alienation from the environment, and general ignorance as to the effects of various technological processes. At this point the consequences are clearly, and without exaggeration, apocalyptic; but most of the proposed mitigation strategies are about as blind as the initial processes, if not outright known to be inadequate.
There are very obvious actions that can be taken, which would clearly permit the greatest mitigation of the processes that are currently dominating the catastrophe - and there are similarly obvious obstacles to these actions, like, how do you get everyone to coordinate on global degrowth?
But what gets me, what really keeps me up at night, is that this is all entirely off the table for any "serious" discussion. Because large-scale degrowth, spinning down of industry, would lower many life expectancies and disrupt possibly every single human society, it's just...rejected out of hand no matter what. And again, I get it, loss of human life usually just feels worse than loss of nonhuman life, especially when it's your own community, but like...we're not even going to try and talk about this? We're not even going to try and plan out what it would look like?
The best alternative plans boil down to nuclear power, increased urbanization, electric cars, and space-based resource extraction. (Admittedly, while I don't love nuclear power, I would actually massively prefer it to hydro or wind.) But this is the basket into which we are putting the eggs of global food production? The idea of doing something that you know would cause significant human suffering, but massively benefit the entire globe, is so repugnant that you're going to go with....the fucking spacex weirdos??? As though that's not already causing incomprehensible levels of human and nonhuman suffering as we speak????? You think this is actually going to lead to a better average quality of life for humans, let alone all the other organisms, three centuries out??????? Hello???????????????
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good-beanswrites · 4 months ago
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We were doing a roleplay thread of OoA. Mikoto (well, John) follows Kotoko to Mahiru's cell, and they tear the place apart.
Good thing Mappi wasn't around, but that's got to be a terrible thing to return to...
(Prompt?)
Mmm that's such an interesting thought -- the attack taking place in the room of the one person unaffected. The survivors guilt is Insane smh -_- I tried to lean into Mappi's voice and mindset for this, I'm not sure how it'll read but I'm super satisfied with the character study it gave me!
Every good housewife knows that a tidy home is a happy home. She knows how to take care of a tiny amount of clutter, since something as small as that can ruin the atmosphere. She knows how to approach larger disorganization before it causes distraction and agitation. The thing they don’t teach housewives, however, is how to handle a living space that has been wholly spattered with blood. At least, they hadn’t in any of the online articles that Mahiru had read. 
The woman hovered in the entryway to her cell, her hands brought up by her chest in an attempt to make herself as small as possible. The others had informed her that the day’s fight ended up in her cell, but she’d only been grateful she was away when it happened. It hadn’t even crossed her mind that the room may not be suitable to sleep in.
The door clicked behind her, locking her in for the night.
Furniture and possessions lay scattered across the floor. Her pillow and sheets had been flung about. She wouldn’t mind returning them to the bed if they were just kicked around the ground, but even in the dim light (her favorite lamp now lay in glass shards) she could see that they each held dark splotches of blood. The color was streaked across the floor, clinging to the back wall as well. 
Maybe nobody had thought to warn her about the state of the cell since there weren’t any huge puddles of the stuff, or because the lamp was really the only thing that had been broken. Mahiru told herself that they were probably too absorbed in the victims’ physical conditions to give it a second thought. It didn’t help the hurt rising in her chest – they could have said something. It would have taken two seconds to think about her and mention it. She could have at least brought a bucket and a sponge inside before curfew…
She bit down hard on her quivering bottom lip, scolding herself for feeling such self pity.
How dare she be anything but joyful that she made it out of today alive. So what, she had a little blood in her cell? It was better than that being her blood spilled somewhere. How dare she not be spending every moment in reverent gratefulness that the others made it out of today alive. Maybe it’d be rough to stay in the cell until morning, but at least she was guaranteed to make it through the night.
Fuuta and Amane’s faces flashed in her mind. She drew in a shaky breath. There had been nothing in her online articles about a situation like that.
But moping around never helped any household. The door was locked, so there was no chance of anyone coming back to cause any more mess. Though she couldn’t do anything directly for Fuuta or Amane, she could start drawing up a list of gifts and favors and favorite meals she could cook. It would be silly for her to cry now, with things going so well.
She should be happy. She should be happy. She should be happy.
And so she was. Mahiru used a scarf as a makeshift broom to sweep up the glass – every good housewife knows that safety comes first! She hummed a favorite tune as she collected the other objects around the room. The song wavered only once, though it returned with full force. She sang the cheery chorus with passion as she found one of her earrings had been crushed underfoot. It would make a fun DIY fix in the next few weeks – she always did love crafts! 
Once everything was straightened out, she moved to her closet. It was looking more bare after her verdict, but there were still plenty of things to choose from for what she had in mind. She picked out her thickest of clothes and laid them on the floor in a colorful, comfy arrangement – it would be the cutest little campout! In fact, if she pinned up her throw blanket in just the right way, it reminded her of younger years making pillow forts and having sleepovers. A little change in scenery can go a long way. She’d read that on a travel blog once, though she’d never truly believed it until now. 
She adjusted the blanket with a smile. As she curled up on a particularly soft sweater, she commended herself on the ingenuity. She’d gotten the room under control in less than an hour. If she could take on a project like this, just think of how happy a home she could run someday. 
Indeed, the space was downright adorable inside. One would never even know things had gotten so bad, she thought. One would never even know there was blood on the walls, just outside.
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catilinas · 11 months ago
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youre doing svss now???? hohohoho have fun ;))))) this is going to be mimetic posting for the ages
it’s like violence and the sacred chapter 6: from mimetic desire to the monstrous double in here. and also what if there was a severed hand
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therighthandofvengeance · 2 years ago
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picturebookshelf · 2 years ago
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The Boy in the Dress (2008)
Story: David Walliams -- Art: Quentin Blake
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ourladyoftheflytrap · 6 months ago
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Lmfao @ the idea that it's possible to raise children religiously in a healthy way
#maybe i was raised too atheist but like if you dont think that all religions are a tool for societal control and preach rotten messages#that support racial and sex hierarchies in order to prevent the masses from protesting cruelty against out groups#then like what do you even think religion is? a collection of different approaches to contacting god?? lol#sorry but i dont see it that way i dont believe any religion offers a spiritual pathway to connecting with god#if god is real then the spiritual connection to them must be innate and cannot be refined by engaging in groupthink#and thats only IF god is real! you wanna allow a ton of racist and sexist propaganda to be taught to kids on the offchance#that it Might teach them how to connect to god better? all of that is worth it to you?#also idk about other religions but you absolutely CANNOT healthily teach a child that if they do wrong they will burn in hell#sorry but that is inherently traumatizing its abusive and the idea that nonbelievers shall suffer eternally desensitizes children#to suffering and isolates them from non christians. so if you teach christianity accurately to children#then you are traumatizing them and also teaching them that endless suffering is divine justice#and if you decline to teach your children about hell then you might as well admit that you dont need the bible to connect to god#and throw the whole damn thing out and raise them nondenominational#and even if you do that they will still eventually learn about hell and it will forever change their opinion on human suffering#at least that's my experience with nondenominational christians lol
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melonisopod · 1 year ago
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I know alignments in Fate don't matter but actually I don't think a man who spent years of his life as an outlaw after making off with the king's wife should be considered "Lawful"
"Oh it's cause he's all about honor!" he's more than willing to be underhanded if asked, he may have a personal ethics code but that doesn't make him 'Lawful' that's just most people? He should be Neutral at the very least.
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beeapocalypse · 10 months ago
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torn between making ve-corpsis an isolated island (potential fun to be had with island syndrome and the way that would effect the wildlife in terms of less biodiversity+island gigantism/dwarfism) or making it a massive rainforest (humidity would better suit the drakes and theres a lot to be done with the Massive amounts of biodiversity+the idea of drakes having to compete w that). coughs
#the great failing of dronic society is pride. the moment they run into vennettes+humans they start claiming superiority due to their--#--seeming relation to thule and expend a TON of energy + resources in order to project a facade of complete power despite--#--the absolute shitfest of their internal politics (entirely new species created by thule themself appearing the day they first make--#--nonviolent contact w the other sophants and the two time culling of their upper courts due to failed ascension attempts primarily)--#--and that kind of falls in line with the idea that ve-corpsis is not a very dangerous place for them a la the isolated island. them--#--having no Real predators throughout the course of their evolution (both biological + societal) and thus freaking the hell out the instant#--True competition comes into the picture. but on the other hand the super biodiverse rainforest gives them a different--#--angle of them having faced + still facing adversity on the home front that exaggerates their response to perceived outside--#--threats. would also open up potential for more drake subspecies filling in different ecological niches as opposed to the 3 main ones--#--ive got thought out for the isolated island#they are both pretty heavy handed metaphors i think its just which one i want to go for LOL the first is more in line with other--#--alamanni stuff going on like the frontierists and ayala but the second gives them a more 'sympathetic' angle (cannot think--#--of the exact word for that. you arent meant to sympathize w them but it humanizes them ? maybe that)
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antimnemonic · 10 months ago
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im going to think about bravern forever
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