#intracommunity transphobia

[pleuvoire]

the green trans allegory comics have officially jumped the shark huh

[genderqueerdykes]

if you are a transmasculine person, trans man, ftm, or other trans person of a similar identity and you are struggling with being misgendered, told you're not really trans, told to not talk about your transmasculinity and/or trans manhood, told you're "invading trans spaces", demonized for being a man/masc, been threatened with violence or death because you're a trans man/transmasc, have had people proudly misgender you or just refuse you gender you correctly, have faced corrective sexual violence, or any other types of transphobia and violence against trans men and mascs, please feel free to send us an ask to share and talk about your experience living as a transmasc and/or trans man

we are currently trying to break the silence on transmasculine & trans man erasure and we need your help. we don't want to just talk about our experience with erasure, but yours too. we are currently publishing asks where transmascs and trans men talk about their experiences with transandrophobia, how hard it really is to pass, being forced out of queer spaces both online and irl, being demonized for taking T, and other issues that trans men face to once and for all bust the myth that trans men & mascs have it easy in life and never struggle or face oppression because they're men or mascs.

not only this, but i want to expose the damage intracommunity violence has done. i want to point out how this has genuinely deeply hurt people and it needs to stop. i want to show that this is not just some petty infighting, it's genuinely scarring people permanently and it's not funny. this is behavior you'd expect from someone who doesn't identify as queer. we shouldn't be doing this to our own. i'm tired of pretending it's not happening to trans men and transmascs. let's finally have the conversation on intracommunity violence & the mass acceptance of harrassing, assaulting, abusing and misgendering transmascs & trans men, and how transandrophobia became the default attitude in the trans community, but also something that "doesn't exist".

only share what you're comfortable with. but if you are struggling with this, please feel free to come and be heard. i want to prove once and for all that trans men and mascs do not inherently have it easy the second they realize theyre men and/or mascs, and how its nearly impossible for most trans men and mascs to gain anything remotely resembling cishet male privilege.

[multigenderswag]

I'd like to talk for a bit about the genre of post that's like "sure you're a boygirl fagdyke genderfreak but do you respect [trans identity]?" I think these sorts of posts do address a lot of important points, such as:

Even if you're genderqueer and going "gender isn't real! smash the binary!" there's a real possibility you haven't unlearned or might still be upholding some very transphobic sentiments, and you should do some introspection about that

Some people only want acceptance for their trans identity but don't want to do the work to deconstruct what gender looks like, stop holding other people to their own gendered expectations, and unlearn their internalized bigotry about different trans identities

Sometimes the [trans identity] is specifically relevant to the identities referenced, such as people who will do surface level acceptance of "boygirls" but then call multigender people problematic for using "contradictory" terms like male lesbian, or asking "are you normal about intersex people?" to point out the prevalent intersexism in the multigender community.

But if the [trans identity] or intersex identity being asked about isn't related to multigender community issues, it seems a little strange to consistently single out labels like boygirl and fagdyke that tend to be used by multigender people in these posts. All kinds of trans people can be transphobic about other trans identities. All kinds of trans people are capable of fighting for their own acceptance but not anyone else's. But these posts are pretty frequently just about boygirl fagdykes.

It reminds me of posts about a "theyfab named Sock being transmisogynistic." Are there transmisogynistic FTX nonbinary people? Yes, no one is immune from perpetuating transmisogyny. But these types of posts are still exorsexist.

Similarly, though I'm not saying the pattern of "sure you're a boygirl fagdyke genderfreak but do you respect [trans identity]" is necessarily exorsexist or transmultiphobic, since like I said they do address important points, some of which actually are multigender community issues. But people do use those types of posts to be really transmultiphobic and exorsexist, but in an "acceptable" way, because the boygirls are transphobic so it's okay to hate them.

Some examples in the notes of this sort of post asking 'are you normal about trans women?":

This assumes that multigender identities are only an online thing, only a young person thing, that all multigender people look cis in real life, that no multigender person has experienced real transphobia.

Again, this assumes that no multigender person "looks like a freak" for their gender, that they never struggle with transphobia offline. And straight up saying they have a "huge issue" with girlboy genders.

Multigender labels aren't "performative titles," they're our genders. This person is just straight up admitting they think our genders are fake, that they're only "titles" and not real fucking identities.

"I tend to Not like multigender people" okay so we're just saying the quiet part out loud now

By all means, keep talking about intracommunity transphobia. It's important. But don't throw multigender people under the bus to do so.

[transfemme-shelterdog]

transandrophobia experience + a generally interesting observation. was in a friendgroup of almost entirely cis people. there were two trans people, a transmasc (me) and a transfem. when they started parroting talking points about transmen having Male Privilege and masculinity being evil and yadda yadda you know the drill, theyd always defend it by saying "well the transfem in our friendgroup agrees with us, so its progressive and youre talking over her if you disagree." the whole experience was fascinating because these cis people already had shitty opinions about transmen. they already wanted me to shut up, so they told me i was damaging my own community. they just wanted an excuse to sound progressive while saying it. it should also be noted that the main reason we were all friends was because we were the only queer people in a ruralish community. with the worry of being outed without any support, how the hell were me or the transfem supposed to disagree? while being queer was absolutely not a positive for the cis people, they were more capable of hiding it which led to them having other friends. dropping 1 or 2 people from the group wasnt a big deal to them. me and that other transperson were visibly trans, this was the only friendgroup in that area that we were semi safe in. im not happy she said transandrophobic shit to me, but she was also a victim in having to go along with it for safety. what she said and did gave her no privilege or advantages over me, it just temporarily put her in the good graces of the cis people championing this stuff in our conversations.

writing this cause i feel its important to note that transandrophobia is a largely cis thing. its absolutely important to address intracommunity shit, but we need to be clear of where the source of a lot of this BS comes from. people might want to go along with it because it feels like itll protect them, but transphobia will not stop because youre One Of The Good Ones.

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[nature-nerd-sarah]

I have no patience for people talking about "queer infighting" or "dividing the community" at this point. Pretty much every time I've seen those terms be substantiated beyond two-three words, it was an obvious bad-faith attempt to silence marginalised people talking about intracommunity bigotry. I've seen this tactic used against queer people of colour talking about white queers' racism, queer women talking about queer men's misogyny, trans people talking about cis queers' transphobia, and most recently transfems talking about tme queers' transmisogyny. The people complaining about "queer infighting" and "dividing the community" pretty much always seemed to want the marginalised voices to shut up and not mention the bigotries white, male, cis, or tme queers do hold and perpetuate. If I see someone using these terms, I'm just going to assume they're a bigot arguing in bad faith, or a useful idiot for the bigots.

[cardentist]

reinforcing oppression is never punching up, even if it's pointed at someone who IS in a position of power over you

queerphobia, transphobia, misogyny, racism, xenophobia, are all still those things when pointed at a target that you think deserves it. there is no such thing as justified bigotry, there is Only bigotry.

that's why HOW we say something is just as important as What we're trying to say, Especially when it comes to intracommunity issues. too often we spread bigotry in the name of lifting other members of our community up, when that is simply not necessary.

we need to be Very aware of how we talk about other community members and other minority groups, if we let our communities be infested with bigotry in the name of doing good then that bigotry will lay roots and poison us