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( meta: four lives. )
instead of doing my drafts from all three ( four ) of my blogs, i'm going tell you about the lore that this blog functions on- it's not actually that prominent as it falls more on the supernatural side, this blog is almost heavily geared towards crime and slice of life, and patrick himself is not actually aware that this is the truth of the universe he lives in. but i do consider it important to me and it also can put a very important relationship of his into perspective.
*spoilers for goblin: the lonely guardian*
okay, so this lore actually comes the TV show goblin: the lonely guardian ( sorry for spoilers, but also u should watch it!! it's a classic 💕 ) and while patrick isn't actually an oc in that verse, his relationship with hyuk ( @jeoseungsaja - hello alex my dear 💕 ) kinda....made me want to incorporate that into patrick's universe since the TV show is where hyuk originated from ( AND ALSO FOR ALEX'S WONDERFUL PORTRAYAL :DD ):
basically, if we're going by the four lives theory according to ji eun-tak then in all three verses, patrick is on his third life aka the harvesting life. in all four of his lives, however, he always at least crosses paths with hyuk and felicity in some capacity.
in his first life, he lived during the goryeo era, where he was an seonbi for the king, wa*ng y*eo. he went by ahn hak ( and was distantly related to one of my other ocs, ahn yoojin ). he was a childhood and later lifelong friend of y*eo, staying by his side even through the latter's grave crimes and when the latter had begun to fall into despair from the regret he felt over said crimes. however, due to the manipulation of yeo's evil advisor, park joong-hyeon, needless self-sacrifice and a lack communication on both yeo and hak's parts, hak ended up dying after taking a stray arrow to the heart that would've hit yeo. by that time, park joong-hyeon had given the order to have hak executed ( more manipulation there to have hak be viewed as suspicious and therefore an enemy of the kingdom....and at last minute yeo was trying to interrupt this execution ).
needless to say hak's first life came to an unfortunate end and it left hak with a bitter taste in his mouth. he was angry at himself for not better support yeo and for not having the guts to actually?? stand up to yeo when he thought yeo was wrong. he was also angry at yeo for giving up on himself but also leading his kingdom to ruin....and so, in his second life, whether it was hak's choice or the higher ups, hak's second life is spent separate from the second life of wang y*eo. hak spent his first life completely devoted to yeo so his second life would be for discover who he is independently. that and wang y*eo had serve a punishment for his past crimes and the one the really put him there, so part of that punishment includes not being able to see a reincarnated hak.
so for his second life, he was born as park jisoo. an orphan with no knowledge of his family ever to discovered, jisoo had a rather lonely if not rough childhood. he was bullied for having more of a timid personality, but also for being colorblind- he was unable to distinguish between red and green and therefore also couldn't see the colors of sunsets ( ironically two of these three things are things hak associated with yeo in their previous lives ). however, jisoo did manage find some sort of happiness as he lived a long and peaceful life with yuri, whose third life would be that of one felicity price. that being said, jisoo always felt like there was something, someone was missing from his life.
( at the end of his second life, jisoo would meet a grim reaper with a very familiar face and very familiar name. it would make no sense to jisoo, he didn't remember meeting someone named wang yeo- )
and so that brings us to his third and current life, patrick grace/shin myungdae. his second life, he spent gaining a sense of independence, but also coming to the subconscious realization that no matter how badly wang yeo had fucked up, he missed him. and he asked for a chance to be friends with the soul of wang yeo once more. perhaps the gods smiled on him once more, because patrick grace was able to meet and become lifelong friends ( and even something more ) with lee hyuk, the third life of wang yeo, a soul that has served his punishment and has been forgiven. patrick would also be blessed to once more encounter his wife from his previous life aka felicity.
so if you're wondering why patrick is ridiculously attached to both hyuk and felicity, that's the ic explanation; they're soulmates in the most literal sense. every life, he'll be entwined with them both some way and some how although the nature of their relationship will be different in each life 💕
#the color of mercy is green ( meta. )#alex and i had plotted this a fair bit#so for ppl who only just met patrick#it's not like their lifelong friendship was coincidence#although seriously you should've seen hyurick at the beginning#chemistry was OFF the charts and neither alex nor i were expected it :'D#but also alex?? i hope this is okay to write up!!#if you want me to change any parts about hyuk/yeo#lmk okay?? ily lots 💕💕💕#but yeah!! meta about the sole supernatural element in patrick's life?? why not!!
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Hey I know this sounds stupid but knowing that mgg is only into white girls makes me sad lol and recently it’s all I’ve been thinking about while reading Spencer fanfics 😭
Okok someone said something abt him only dating skinny girls earlier in my inbox so let me say a few things abt this
1. He is just a man. You are superior to him and you do not need his validation
2. Realistically you will never be able to prove that he would NOT be into you if you ever met because you probably won’t so you should tell yourself he would until proven otherwise
3. He has said before one of his crushes is claire huxtable AND to the other person also he at one point said he likes curvier women and just because he’s only publicly dated mostly a specific type of girl that does not mean he’s never privately dated people who look different than that
4. People tend to have this idea that we know all of his relationships but the ones we HAVE seen are only a fraction of the ones he has had. Celebrities are a lot better at keeping relationships under wraps than we are led to believe. He has had gfs that he didn’t want anyone to know about so we never knew about them, as have most celebrities. He has dated people we have never seen and we have no idea what they look like!!
5. If he actually were exclusively attracted to or exclusively dated white women or stick thin women that would make him a freak who does not deserve your time or attention or energy! Normal ppl do not exclusively date one physical “type” that is some Patrick Bateman shit. But I doubt that’s the case w him anyway! And one more time you’ll never actually have to find out so don’t worry abt it too much you are a bad bitch and you could pull anyone u wanted
Anyway I don’t wanna sound crazy and I don’t wanna promote craziness so guys pls do not base your self esteem on this random ass man and what u perceive him to be attracted to he is unemployed and irrelevant to your life and his hairline is receding mwah u r perfect
Additionally Spencer reid is not mgg and does not share his taste in women he is fake and can be however u want him to be his type in women is whatever u look like bc he’s fake
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「 SLASHERS REACTIONS TO THEIR FANDOMS ! 」 . . . 📂
slashers : various
wrd count : 1.2k
⊹˚.⋆ synopsis . . . how slashers would react to their fandoms
⊹˚.⋆ starring . . . patrick bateman, bo sinclair, vincent sinclair, billy loomis, stu macher, brahms heelshire, & billy lenz
⤷ patrick bateman
okay this is going to be fun
his (already huge) ego gets boosted sm by the like "sigma" edits and shit of him
not to be cliche but the “I bet paul allen doesn't ___” sort of comments make him feel so high and mighty
and seeing how many people find him hot? god he would become even more insufferable
BUT HERES THE FUN PART
he delves more into the patrick bateman edits and stuff and that's when he finds the satirical shipping, cutesy edits, etc
he sees himself and the word "babygirl" put together and has a full blown meltdown
god it’d be so funny cause it's literally 50/50 in the fandom so he couldn't separate one from another if he even tried
AND THE SHIPS
oh, he would just be gagging at the louis x himself ships
idk I feel like he would go "take this down now 🤬”
he's so edgy 12 year old boy yk
AND THE EDITS
patrick practically passing out when he seems himself edits with anime blush and cat ears
his masculinity was already bruised by the ships and now this?
he 100% posts some of the edits about him on his socials
he also sends the links to these vids to people he dislikes to prove his "fame"
the fame goes to his head but he gets humbled when he sees everyone calling him "my pathetic malewife bbg 💕”
⤷ vincent sinclair
I just love vincent sm and so does his fandom
I have not once met someone who hates vincent
he is so insecure and humble and just deserves to see everyone complimenting him and his wax figures
he loves his fandom to say the least
and they absolutely adore him
definitely gets confused by some of the compliments he gets
example a: "If he doesn't want me to slut him out, why waist so slutty?"
^^ yes I did find that on here
is in disbelief ppl can find him attractive let alone say things sexual about him
he has rlly rlly low self esteem okay
if he ever tried to interact with his fandom online I have two different directions in my head
IS AWFUL ON THE PHONE
typos and everything
but it's so sweet
"THank yu 🙂"
he has big fingers and struggles to type ^^ or if he gets adjusted it's perfect grammar "I appreciate you for this. Thank you so much."
hes just a big ol boy getting the praise he deserves
⤷ bo sinclair
this one is a bit tricky
he isn't too phased by the compliments unlike his brother
he knows he hot
so "daddy" "so hot" compliments r not new to him
BUT I think stuff like | want to see him whimper" will make him feel VERY FLUSTERED
like awkward coughing and hiding his face flustered
but he doesn't get a bigger boost in his ego
I feel like it doesn't go to his head cause he is already pretty confident in his looks yk
but seeing people appreciate him for his personality?
like talking about how charming and husband material he is
it definitely gives him more hope that he's worth more than his looks & that he means something
this one is short but he wouldn't interact with the fandom
or he’ll barely scrap the surface so he doesn’t see the weird stuff…
like he seems so Facebook dad to me
basically he is tolerates his fandoms cs he’s only seen the tip of the iceberg
⤷ billy loomis
ANOTHER TRICKY ONE
billy is so tricky for me tho
honestly it goes to his head
seeing ppl in awe about him ^^
he's a slasher fan too so he is more active in other fandoms if that makes sense
but he does like to delve into theories and discussions about ghostface and the scream franchise with members of his fandom
rlly enjoys knowing he is considered one of the "well known" slashers
honestly he feels threatened by danny johnson from DBD because when u search ghostface a lot of content surrounding him pops up a long with stu and billy
billy wants everyone to know he’s the ghostface
he loves the fame basically
I do get the feeling he hates the image ghostface has tho
like the "thirst traps"
he's just the type of guy who calls people "posers" and "fake fans"
so that rily irritates him
if you know a lot about slashers/ghost face he's chill
he likes his fandom but there's definitely outliers with the people who know ghostface but not who's behind the mask
he wants the notoriety
⤷ stu macher
LOVES HIS FANDOM
he loves being worshipped by his fandom
all compliments, all fanart, all of it he loves
teases Billy sometimes about the posts
sends scream memes to his friends
feels guilty tho when he sees posts about his and Tatum's relationship
like that's the only downside for him
he responds to fans, tells "insider" stuff, etc
Stu is very active in his fandom
he thrives off of it essentially
definitely set up a cameo or something at one point and says his iconic lines from the movie
+ try's to get fan service out of Billy
hes like an obnoxious youtuber
REPOSTS EVERYTHING
edits? yes
fanart? yes
fanfic..?
yes.
he's not rlly sad either that billy gets more attention than him cs if you love stu you LOVE stu
calls his fandom "machiacs"
cause macher + maniac
but he does think he's more famous than he actually is
like if someone doesn't recognize him he'll go "I'm THE stu macher"
fanservice king!!!
⤷ billy lenz
no shame at all
he will repost smut/hentai of him
loves his fandom cause they're as equally as horny as he is
but I think he does see that he is desirable in more ways when he finds like fluff imagines
loves his fanart the most
he would try and redraw the fanarts but they turn out horribly
he 100% try's to interact with his fandom
key word is try
he doesn't type but does the voice to text thing
so all his replies and post end up
JEJSNSBSHSISJJSNS *insert heavy breathing* HSHDNDJSJSK
his poor phone can't keep up :(
he doesn't understand the fandom but he loves them
"billy boy my beloved ❤️”
^^ those are his favorite types of fandom interactions
⤷ brahms heelshire
refuses to have internet
straight up refuses
but I feel like he's the only one who would dislike his fandom
and i mean actively dislike
if he saw how many people call him "stinky wall boy"
let's just say he would have a fit
only thing he would like is people saying he's better than other male characters
but literally that's it
hates everyone and everything about his fandom
he thinks of them as lowly or without class
its just best if he never finds out about his fandom
✎ notes . . . yes, this is a repost. tumblr deleted my old acc >:( ◯ 🖖🏻 ⭒ ⧆
©️ sethcertified 2023
#☆ — sethcertified#billy loomis#scream#scream 1996#stu macher#bo sinclair#house of wax#vincent sinclair#brahms heelshire#the boy#patrick bateman#☆ — american psycho#american psycho#billy lenz#black christmas#☆ — scream#☆ — house of wax#☆ — black christmas#☆ — the boy#☆ — slashers#slashers
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i watched speak no evil w my brother and now i need to talk about it. not to make this about race but something that jumped out to me was that this movie would only work with the whitest fucking family you’ve ever seen. let’s start at the beginning
1) we did get there late so idk what purpose dunking on danish ppl served so let’s just skip to the part where they let their twelve year old daughter ride a scooter with a man they JUST met. if some white middle age man offered to let let me ride saddleback on his motorcycle my parents (or at least my dad) would be like hell to the mf no and then we wouldn’t be allowed near him or his wife or his son ever again
2) speaking of his son that’s another reason why the movie would be over before it started. that’s prob more of an immigrant thing though (or like a machismo thing) bc i don’t think i’ve ever been allowed to play with boys no matter how old we were
3) okay actually my mom would have been a little fooled by that british accent
4) oh my god if we went over to this family’s house and the hosts were like “you’re sleeping in the same room as our son! :)” my parents (probably both of them) would be like hell to the MF NO. and then we’d drive back home and go no contact
5) the lack of backbone killed meee. if for some reason we weren’t gone by then you know what would have done the trick? some unfamiliar man being our fucking babysitter. my dad would be PISSED. my mom would be like “a brown man? girl…”
6) the husband telling everyone to swim in their underwear? girl…
7) i’m kinda forgetting the other details so im officially done dunking on white ppl. no offense to agnes bc she was distressed but feigning her period while she was bleeding in the front was like ..?
8) OH WAIT. back to dunking on white people bc if my parents (even my mom!) found me in some family’s BED holy shit. they would not careee about that lady’s sob story they’d escalate shit so much that the hosts would just kill them right then and there
9) also that stuffed animal agnes had was sweet and i love the lengths her parents went for her but my dad would be like get the fuck OVER it girl. and then if i tried kicking the backseat well. haha. let’s just say thqt wouldn’t end well
10) okay but also if i showed my mom those pics i dont think she’d believe me no matter how weird these people were LOL. like she’d still try to leave but i dont think she’ll be like “omg you’re right!”
11) the cheating beat was what rlly did it for me. like if that were my family the movie would be over before it even started. like i was confused why the wife kept saying her man was angry bc he never even yelled at her and the closest he ever came to lashing out at agnes was trying to get her to stop kicking his seat
12) he rlly was so in love with patrick though i thought there’d be at least one kiss between them
13) why did ppl (read: men) in the theatre start BELLY LAUGHING when patrick kept kissing the wife? gross
14) dude. if we didn’t manage to escape once (even tho we def would have… no way would either my parents drive back for a stuffed toy) my parents defintely would have kept driving even if patrick did push their son (who wasn’t rlly his son… but im gonna keep calling him that bc i don’t remember his name) into the lake. like for me my mindset for scenarios like that is “oh well u don’t rlly know how you’d react until it happens to u” but i know EXACTLY how my mom would have reacted. she would have kept driving
15) i do love the wife though. i feel like they were trying to make her annoying but we all need people like her. the food throwing scene was so upsetting (im a sensitive baby) and the husband not having a backbone drove me crazy. actually the husband was pretty much useless even before he broke his leg
16) i hate that uppity “im not gonna stoop down to their level” mentality. patrick literally said he was gonna take ur 12 yr old child as a child bride and u didn’t end it??
#long post#speak no evil was ok i just wouldn’t see it again#mostly bc those parents were so irritating#also sorry for all the typos my family was like who are u textinggg and i was like. haha. tumblr dot com
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https://www.tumblr.com/hockeygossipdaily/763820215090970624/httpswwwtumblrcomhockeygossipdaily7638164032 actually just a clear up here bc I was around for this whole thing, jack was following Emma first before the other guys and tbh I never believed the threesome rumor it was a blog rumor that spread back in the days because she appeared to want to go to after them both :) Emma used to go on ig live and a bunch of ppl would bring up jack and she would feed into it bc she’s a cloud chaser at her core, but I don’t think they ever met in real life esp bc his rookie season was just starting. Then Alex followed her and then Trevor, so they might’ve all been talking about her and it kind of fell into place with Trevor being in Boston, but that’s the order of things. The only friends of Trevor she’s publicly acknowledged/met are Alex, Cam York, Patrick Moynihan, Jamie, and some others who aren’t rlly known in hockey.
P.S. jack def was liking her pictures that summer and other girls’ but I remember at the time ppl on here were pretty sure that him and Chelsea didn’t last into the summer bc of the asking girls to flash him thing and by Halloween he was with another girl
^^^ thank you anon!
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Genderbend losers club + hcs
Richie → Regine
- her government name is Regine but everybody just calls her Reggie instead of Richie.
-she doesn't like Edna when they first meet, and for a while after that. She says it's bc Edna's a pouty spoiled brat but at the same time she thinks it's cute. She's a hot mess.
-people get real suprised by how such a young girl talks so dirty.
-huuuuge feminist; it's the 80's after all. And when she gets older and in college, she's a radio host on campus and most of the guys don't like her for discussing their sexist behavior.
-in highschool when the losers start getting hobbies, she joins cheerleading and cheers on Edna. She actually becomes one of the best cheerleaders on the squad because of her rambunctious personality.
-a lot of ppl say that eddie is curvy and Richie is built like a whole 2 by 4 as females but I think Reggie has more boobage and butt than Edna.
-when they return back to derry this bitch dresses like Mrs. Frizzle. Like those crazy ass outfits she used to wear
-Either that or Hawaiian button ups and Jean shorts.
-likes to show titty in her Hawaiian outfits 😎
Eddie → Edna
-she is a spoiled, loud, bossy girl but she doesn't like to hear that she is :(
-reggie calls her Ed and everyone catches on bc they collectively don't like the name Edna
-she's literally Jackie Burkhart.
-basically a doll for Sonia's enjoyment.
-after a year of hanging out with Reggie and the losers she feels a little more free and decides she doesn't wanna be Sonia's perfect little girl anymore. So she chops her hair off to neck length freshman year.
-sonia and her obviously begin bumping heads bc of it.
-she joins Track freshman year and LOVES it. She continues until college. And in college she starts to plays volleyball.
- she chops her hair shorter that it basically becomes a long wavy pixie cut
-everyone at school ends up calling Edna 'boy girl' bc she had short hair. And sort of turning into a stud.
-she's not spoiled anymore in highschool and college and after that, but she is def still bossy
-when they return back to derry, the only clothes she wears are button ups, t-shirts, slacks, and jeans. She doesn't like dresses or skirts anymore.
Beverly → Benny
-everyone eventually gets a crush on Benny, besides Edna (bc she's a lesbian even tho she tries to have on one him)
-all the girls think he's cute but promiscuous bc he only hangs out with like 6 other girls.
-doesn't believe in hitting girls but Henrietta Bowers makes an exception.
-idk why but I feel like Benny and Edna would fake date for a while?? Bc they're kinda the perfect couple in Derry.
-him and Bella are the cutest tho 🤷🏽♀️
-y'all,, Benny gets hot when they come back to derry; like it's not fair.
-he can't get over how hotter Bella got either when they come back to derry.
Stanley → Staniel
-EVERYONE is jealous of her hair.
-the most functional loser still.
-wears skirts ALL the time, even when they reunite in derry (oh yeah genderbend means fix it AU too)
-had a crush on Billie and Michelle for the longest time until she met Patrick who she's now happily married to.
-first kiss is with Regina tho
-she also didn't like Edna all that much bc she used to be Regina's best friend and Ed took her place. And bc she was a loud spoiled brat
Mike → Michelle
-she has a top like Tracy Camilla John's in 'she gotta have it'
-also a huge feminist like Regina, so they talk about that a lot.
-she's apart of the choir and her vocals are like Amber Riley's; she's really good. And the losers go to watch.
-definitely has a crush on Billie and still does. They end up dating during their reunion and go to Florida together.
-she never wore skirts but she wore dresses to church and choir. Besides that, she usually wore baggy jeans.
-Edna gets a crush on Michelle bc she's so pretty, intelligent, and strong. She was everything Edna wished she could be.
-she's really good at basketball and golf but never tries out.
Bill → Billie
-Everyone also has a crush on Billie like they do with Benny.
-Georgia (Georgie) is dead still and she's still a complete mess abt it.
-she once confessed to Edna that she's the little sister she got to have after Georgia. So she's really protective of Edna.
-after crushing on Benny for a year or so, and got over it, she realized Michelle was pretty perfect and gets a tiny crush on her.
-oops when they go back to derry she has a huge fucking crush on her now.
-they date and like I say go to Florida after she leaves his husband Aubrey.
Ben → Bella
-she's a really smart girl; all the girls are jealous of her bc she has Benny on her arm and amazing grades. Of course, they pick on her bc of her weight.
-even Pennywise, a fucking clown, picks on her every insecurities and calls her fat.
-but of course there was always Benny that made her feel like she was still beautiful.
-since girls aren't allowed to play football she does volleyball and basketball. It helps her eventually lose some weight in highschool.
-she also starts jogging with Edna in the morning before school. She's amazed how much this little girl can talk while jogging.
-she loses more weight in her adult life and comes back stunning. She was already beautiful but she was glowing.
-she was expecting to become valedictorian but Regina took the title. She was a little bitter but came to terms with it.
-also, her and Benny end up marrying like a year after the reunion.
These r stupid as hell i'm sorry 😭
#the losers club#genderbend#reddie#benverly#hanbrough#the losers club au#headcanon#richie tozier#eddie kaspbrak#bill denbrough#mike hanlon#beverly marsh#ben hanscom#stanley uris
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Water Symbols and Ties Between Grady and Terminus: “A” Rewatch by @wdway
This is another re-watch from @wdway. She totally saves my butt on busy weeks when I don’t have time to write new theories, lol.
Here are her observations:
Hi ladies! I hope you're both doing well. I did a rewatch of s4e16 A, series number 51. I think it's important to mention that this episode was co-written by Scott Gimple and Angela Kang.
It starts out with a flashback of the prison and then we have Rick, Carl's and Michonne talking about how hungry they are. Later, they catch a rabbit in a snare. I thought about how much rabbits were featured in this back half of s4. It emphasized the size when Rick says, "A small one." Later, Michonne mentions again it was a small rabbit. This made me think of Lennie talking about the little ones.
I'll skip over the Claimers, other than the car scene where Daryl and Rick were talking. Daryl brings Rick a bottle of water. There's no label. It's just clear. It's actually a good size bottle and he sets it down in front of them. He brought water = Beth into that scene. They brought Beth into the Terminus part of the episode with the use of symbols that we were totally unaware of at the time. We gradually realized them as the seasons went on, the water being a huge symbol.
This is right after they jumped the Terminus fence and found this door propped open. Notice it says that it's a fire door, a way to escape. I think this can be considered a water symbol, just as a fire pull or ceiling sprinkler would be. I cropped this shot so that you could read the sign on the door a little easier. I do want to mention that Daryl is next to Rick and they are the only two in the shot.
Rick and co come out into a common area or plaza and are about to get a plate full of meat when Rick notices objects from people from the prison. He takes a guy to use as a shield against the sharpshooters.
I just mentioned how the door was the symbol of water, even though it was a door. Well, this is similar. That red object against the wall is a fire hose holder. I know this because I noticed it at the end of Us when Maggie and her group first came into Terminus. I noticed how it said fire hose. You can also see the fire hydrant next to it and if you look closely at the base, it's just a prop. There's a bottom section that should be buried or would be connected to some type of piping if it was real, so these are not objects that were already at this location. That means they're symbols.
Notice how this little corner is visible during the majority of this scene. We see it to the side or behind Rick almost the entire time. So, we have a fire hose and a fire hydrant. Both Beth symbols because they = water.
Look straight above the fire hose stand. There are 2 diamonds at the top of the building. I don't think they’re original to the building because of the shadowing around them. They appear to simply be tacked up, serving no particular purpose other than being diamond shaped, which = Beth.
Now look at the corner next to the hose and hydrant. There is a sign on the brick wall that I believe refers to the hose or hydron. It reads, “emergency water key, replace when used.” Just in case we didn't know this was a water reference, they wanted to make sure that they let us know, but I really like the fact that it's a water key.
I just needed to point out Daryl's Poncho which, ironically, he didn't notice, but Rick did.
The three small pictures underneath it are original sketches of the Native Americans’ Thunderbird.
Our little group starts to run for their lives. We follow them as they run past a boneyard, turn different corners, and then all of a sudden we see this shot.
Notice the fire hose stand, a tire, the yellow objects, the abandoned car with a shattered windshield and these stacked train cars. During this shot, we hear a female voice calling for help. Here's the funny thing: we never see our group running through or past this, so this is staged simply to show us symbols. In one of the five flashbacks was of Rick coming into the prison with Beth/Judith sitting on the steps, Patrick was sitting on the floor in front of Beth's cell, making something out of Legos. Carl is cleaning his gun. Rick stops to talk to Patrick and Patrick thanks Rick for picking up the Legos and he makes a comment about that they are for ages 4 through 12. I've always thought that was somewhat odd.
I just want to throw out an idea to you. This might actually be a comment about the story arc lasting from season 4 through season 12. I'm not talking about the series ending at 12, I'm simply thinking that this storyline, Rick, Beth, Daryl and Carol will continue through season 12.
@twdmusicboxmystery:
Love it all! I especially liked the fire and water stuff you pointed out at Terminus and how they brought Beth into it. The combination of water and key is especially interesting. You did spark one idea from me.
And I know I sound like a broken record on this point, but could Terminus have foreshadowed the helicopter group? (Yes, I know I’m saying this WAY too often, and all the things I point to and consider probably do NOT directly equate to the helicopter group, but think of it as a mindset shift on my part. I’m kind of considering all things in light of the helicopter group.)
I was thinking that Terminus was where all the train tracks met, right? And we’ve seen more than one representation of the train tracks representing character paths. So, it would have made more sense if all the characters had met up at Terminus. And most of them did. Beth was the exception. But if this was a foreshadow of all character paths converging at some future point, then that would make sense. Because Beth is the one that’s been gone for a long time, but since then, others, such as Heath and Rick, have also disappeared.
So, all paths need to converge at some point, and we believe that will happen in some way via the helicopter group. See why I’m thinking this? I think what you’ve found here backs this up.
Another insight? Remember in 5x09, we see some train tracks with the camera moving forward along them, and the tracks disappear into the woods up ahead. Maybe those tracks represent Beth’s path, and the fact that it’s going to disappear for a while. But it will reappear and meet up with other character paths at some future point.
Which also reminds me of a kind of famous passage in the book of Revelation about a woman who gives birth to a child but then goes into hiding in the woods. Most scholars interpret it (a total analogy) as that the true gospel Christ taught would go into hiding for a while (Dark Ages) but re-emerge later. I don’t know if this is what they were going for or even considering, but it’s what I thought of. Might be a similar template. Anyway, great rewatch. You always have eagle eyes.
@wdway:
I cannot tell you how much I agree with you. I definitely think Terminus was tied to the helicopter people or, more precisely, that Terminus is connected to Grady and it is Grady who had a connection with the helicopter or what the helicopter group was at the beginning of the turn. I believe it's around a year-and-a-half into the turn when Beth was brought there, and I believe they have evolved over the 10 years.
Dawn pretty well confirmed that there was a group coming soon, so it makes total sense that it could be a military-type organization. I'm going to show you some shots that will totally bring back what I've been obsessing about all the seasons.
Top one is Hansen, Dawn's Superior until he went crazy. I know the second shot is really dark. This is the best I can do with trying to lighten it. Do you remember this at the end of No Sanctuary, where they give a bit of a backstory of Terminus being taken over by this big guy who terrorized them? I believe this guy is Hanson.
Isn't it strange that they tell a backstory about a group that TF has taken down and that they go to a lot of effort to make this person hard to see?
That's right. I think the crazy guy from the train box car is none other than Hanson. If you look at Slabtown and Coda, this person is discussed several times. An awful lot of screen time is taken up with a story of how Hanson went rogue. What's the need of that when Grady is about to be left behind and, more importantly, why do we repeatedly see a picture of him?
The first picture I showed above has his badge next to it. Another question of why do we need to see that? I'm going to throw out a crazy idea. Why not, haha. In the very dark picture below, the guy seems to be wearing some kind of large belt buckle. I think it might be a gun or something stuck in the front of his pants, but I think there's a badge there.
I guess there's a definite yes to me, believing that all of this relates to the helicopter people. More importantly, the new series The World Beyond apparently did not want to start until after we see episode 16. I've said this before. I think at some point, not necessarily the first episode, but I think somewhere within it we will see Grady, pre-Beth.
@frangipanilove
I love you take on Hanson. I totally agree that they alluded to something that we haven’t quite seen yet, and I would love to see Grady tied to the helicopter ppl somehow. I have wondered a lot about the tattoo guy from Terminus and what the deal was with him, and your pics show a remarkable resemblance between Hanson and the crazy terminus dude.
@twdmusicboxmystery:
It would explain the defunct cop cars at Terminus, if Hansen left Grady and arrived in them. And as you’ve said, the weirdness of some of this that hasn’t yet been explained.
That’s it for today. Anybody have any thoughts on these insights?
#beth greene#beth greene lives#beth is alive#beth is coming#td theory#td theories#team delusional#team defiance#beth is almost here#bethyl
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i was tagged my the lovely @theleavesoflorien to answer these questions, so here goes :))
1. Do you prefer writing with a black pen or a blue pen?
blue actually! but idk why
2. Would you prefer to live in the country or in the city?
the country ideally, bc cities are just too noisy, too grey, too many people. but on the other hand, ppl in the country are boring af... so. guess i could live anywhere where i had some peace and quiet and nature on the one hand, and some interesting ppl on the other - one can dream ig, lol
3. If you could learn a new skill, what would it be?
any skill would be nice X’D but i guess writing, always. and not being a procrastinator. just being able to focus and actually finish/achieve smth. would be great (if that’s even a “skill”)
4. do you drink your tea/coffee with sugar?
coffee sometimes (aka when it’s bad coffee lol); tea never (tho i’d put in honey sometimes)
5. What was your favourite book as a child?
gosh i have no idea. i remember liking most books by Marc De Bel and Patrick Lagrou (both Flemish writers) and then as a teenager ig it had to be Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban!
6. Do you prefer baths or showers?
i like both, but maybe baths, which have that additional element of “i’ve got time to relax rn” which is always great
7. If you could be a mythical creature, which one would you be?
werewolf :’) or smth that lives in the ocean (not a mermaid tho, i’m not 12) like a giant turtle or smth, or some big cat (i don’t know my mythology wow), or a dragon :33333
8. Paper or electronic books?
paper! ♥ which goes against my eco principles but i just loooove books and can’t get myself to read on a screen
9. What is your favourite item of clothing?
my mom jeans :’)
10. Do you like your name? Would you like to change it?
i don’t like it at all D: if money wasn’t a factor, i probably would’ve changed it already, sorry @ my parents but yes
11. Who is a mentor to you?
George Harrison :’)
12. Would you like to be famous? If so, what for?
writing fantasy/scifi books or shows/movies pls and thanks ♥
13. Are you a restless sleeper?
i sleep like a log, which ig is why i wake up feeling like one XD
14. Do you consider yourself to be a romantic person?
lol. i used to... guess deep down i still am, even tho i’ve completely embraced ace/aro life for now. would never go for any of that sappy stuff tho, but some epic kind of soulmates love, i’m one of the idiots who believes in that shit :’)
15. Which element best represents you?
water ♥ and i guess air to a certain extent
16. Who do you want to be closer to?
lmao @theleavesoflorien, Henry Cavill, HARD SAME :’))) or Dhani Harrison for that matter :3 ~the 2 Main Platonic Baes~ but in all realness, i’d just wish i had any rl friends that i vibed with on a soul level /rip
17. Do you miss someone at the moment?
my brother i guess, always ♥
18. Tell us about an early childhood memory.
re-enacting The Lion King with my brother XD and generally just making up stories with him - @theleavesoflorien, we did the radio shows/quizzes too! brilliant XD
19. What is the strangest thing you have eaten?
fermented shark, in Iceland. i highkey would not recommend
20. What are you most thankful for?
still being alive i suppose :’) tho sometimes these days i wish i wasn’t. also, great music, books, tv shows, movies ♥ and whatever unspoiled nature we still have
21. Do you like spicy food?
sure! tho not like really spicy ig
22. Have you ever met someone famous?
i met Michael Palin in 2018 at a book signing ♥_♥ after a talk he did. and i said i’d liked the talk and he said thanks :’))))) also met Terry Gilliam last year and we talked for 2 secs ♥ and ig there were others but i can’t remember right now. oh yeah, talked to Finn Jones at a con one time :’)
23. Do you keep a diary or journal?
lol yeah like about 5 of them XD all for different aspects of my life i suppose. i have the worst memory in the world, so i need this to literally remember things
24. Do you prefer to use pen or pencil?
pen
25. What is your star sign?
cancer sun / leo moon / scorpio rising
26. Do you like your cereal crunchy or soggy?
oh my fuck who would like soggy cereal o_____O
27. What would you want your legacy to be?
idk, just generally being remembered at all would be nice. would be great to have contributed something noticeable, but having made people happy in some way at all would do ig
28. Do you like reading? What was the last book you read?
LMAO yes :’) i’m reading a few dozen atm, but the last one i finished was Sign of Chaos by Roger Zelazny, part of the Amber series i’ve read about 6 times now instead of reading new things
29. How do you show someone you love them?
no idea :’)) just be there for them ig. giving them some of my time must mean i love them bc i loooovvvveee my time :’)
30. Do you like ice in your drinks?
not really actually. if it needs to be cold i’d rather just have it chilled than have ice in it
31. What are you afraid of?
dying without really having lived :’) /harsh truths hour
32. What is your favourite scent?
peaches, basil, privet, monoï, ....
33. Do you address older people by their name or surname?
gosh, depends on the situation. i guess i’d say sir or madam (without the surname tho) and i mean older as in at least 20y older
34. If money was not a factor, how would you live your life?
not working for anyone else another day in my life. except if i found something i really want to get behind and put some effort in. hopefully write for pleasure tho, which would hopefully come easier since i wouldn’t be stressed at all times. i’d like to live near the ocean and the jungle, surrounded by a only few but likeminded people ♥
35. Do you prefer swimming in pools or the ocean?
love ♥ the ocean, tho i also scares me lol. would say a natural pool or a lake without too many weeds in it :’)
36. What would you do if you found $50 on the ground?
take it ofc
37. Have you ever seen a shooting star? Did you make a wish?
oh yes! i always make a wish :) and the same one each time too
38. What is one thing you would want to teach your children?
that they’re okay, that of course growth is important, but that they’re enough as they are, and only have to change if they want it, not for anyone else. i’d try to teach them empathy and respect for all beings and the earth we live on
39. If you had to have a tattoo, what would it be and where would you get it?
got three already, but i’m contemplating George Harrison’s squiggly sun drawing from his Here Comes the Sun manuscript, maybe on my ankle? still considering Tolkien’s dragon drawing too. an ॐ somewhere definitely, maybe combined with some lotus thing, idk yet..
40. What can you hear right now?
Pink Floyd - The Great Gig in the Sky (Live, from Pulse)
41. Where do you feel the safest?
in my flat. or in nature when there’s no one around. in fact i feel safe most places where there’s not too many people around
42. What is one thing you want to overcome/conquer?
my procrastination
43. If you could travel back to any era, what would it be?
ooof, difficult choice. maybe just super far back to hunter-gatherer times tbh XD like okay, not that intellectually or spiritually developed, but still in touch with the actual earth we live on as simply another species, before assuming we were anything “more” or w/e, before any money or power or religion came into play ♥
44. What is your most used emoji?
i’m on the computer now so, hmmmm but: ok hand, and the crying emoji, and the two hearts, and ofc the “this is fine” content smiling one XD sorry idk how to describe it
45. Describe yourself using one word.
idiot
46. What do you regret the most?
not having taken my life into my own hands in my 20s... but i honestly try not to regret much anymore. i guess my 20s couldn’t have gone much different all things considered, and i did learn from them
47. Last movie you saw?
Mortal Kombat X’D
48. Last tv show you watched?
Red Dwarf ♥♥♥
49. Invent a word and its meaning
this is too difficult :’)))))
as usual i’m lazy and tag anyone who feels like doing this! ~♥
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Would you ever chew gum after someone else already has? noooo, yuk
Earrings or a necklace? necklace
Have you ever wished on 11:11? I do smth else/have different tradition
Have you ever listened to the Goo Goo Dolls? Iris, even recently
Have you ever watched Lost? nah
Do you have pictures of your exes? I think I deleted them
Do you have Ozzy Osbourne on your mp3 player? I don’t listen to him but I liked to watch Osbourne’s family tho
Do you read romance novels? the only one I could count as a romance was Five feet apart
Did you draw pictures for your crushes in preschool? no :o
Have you ever not asked someone out cause you were scared of rejection? yep
Have you ever liked someone just because of their appearance? had some crushes like this, especially celebs lol
Pink or green? green but pink with green looks interesting
A bracelet or a ring? depends
Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter? LOTR
By airplane or bus? bus
What’s the last thing you binge watched? She-ra
Do you watch youtube videos or tv shows more? yt videos
What are you tired of right now? everything
Have you ever gotten rid of something and then regretted it? If so, what? several things, personal
How does your stomach feel right now? silence before the storm?...
Do you live in an apartment that has inspections? I don’t live in an apartment
Do you hate taking naps during the day? yes and no
Who in your immediate family has the best natural hair? my grandma has, she never got grey hair nor dandruff etc.
Do you know anyone who thinks they’re more talented than they are? obvi
What is the origin of your last name? polish?
Have you ever been inside a Victorian mansion? I wish
What was the most boring field trip you ever went on? hmm...
What are your favorite types of videos to watch on youtube? music videos, thrift hauls, interiors, fashion, funny stuff...
What’s a DIY craft project you want to try? I’m not into DIY
Are you a hoarder? yep
Do you ever call yourself stupid in your head? often
If you were to start a collection, what would it be? not counting those I already have? for example - znicze
Would you ever give your daughter the middle name Marie? I could, especially if it was a boy :P as it’s legal to call him Maria if it’s the middle name lmfao
Do you have a relationship with God? some sort of it
Have you ever “fired” a doctor? could say so
Who is the prettiest Asian youtuber that you can think of? I don’t watch any Asian youtubers
What was the temperature where you live today? less than 30 Celsius but it felt colder
Is your sleep schedule all messed up? umm...
Did you wear green last St. Patrick’s Day? I don’t celebrate this
Food: Are you adventurous or do you stick to what you know? stick
Do you know both of your biological parents? I do
When was the last time you wrote so much your finger ached? last night
Do you store a lot of pictures you’ve taken that no one else has seen? ppl close to me saw them
When did you first start using the internet? regularly or very first time?
Do you prefer tents or staying in hotels? prefer hotels
Do you have any family traditions for certain holidays? Which? personal
Do you enjoy clowns / street performers or are they creepy to you? some I like
Have you ever had a teacher who would just babble about nothing? for example - we had a priest who was always talking about war times or his night dreams :D
Do you ever look at a word and think that it looks odd? hahaha it happens
Did you ever dream about being an animal? plenty
Which vowel occurs most in your whole name? A
What’s your favourite colour on a dog? dunno
Do you prefer Skirts or Dresses? dresses, I can use them as tunics
Have you ever been told you are fake? once :(
Can you do cartwheels? not well
Do you like the name Sara? no longer...
What’s your first name without an r, e, s or l? doesn’t change
What’s your age plus two divided by 4? 7.5
Do you know someone named after a month (April, May, June)? used to know May
Stop typing. What do you hear? someone is mowing grass as every other day ugh...
What was the last book you read that also is a film? Five feet apart
How often do you get a new purse or a new wallet? whenever I feel like it but I thrift them so it’s not like I spend lots of money
What is the most money that you have ever spent on getting your nails done? few PLN for a nail polish and done them myself lol
Does it matter to you if your girlfriend drinks? I wouldn’t date an alcoholic, someone who is drunk a lot and then do stupid stuff, pukes, have hangovers often, spend all their money on alcohol, smells like it, gross!
Has a little kid ever fallen asleep on your lap before? nah, just cat
If you heard your best friend’s significant other was cheating on them, would you tell them? Even if you couldn’t prove it? I’d mention that to them
Do you plan on having both your parents at your wedding? if they want to attend...
Have you ever stayed on a ride at a theme park to ride it again? nope
Where did your mother and father meet for the first time? in front of the church
Would you rather read books or magazines? depends
Have you ever had your cheek pinched? I hate that >.>
Do you own any plaid pants? I have a pair of plaid leggings and pajamas
Do you talk in your sleep? nah
Have you ever fallen off a horse? never been on a horse to fall
Can you pick things up with your toes? I do this often
If you are a girl, do you get bad PMS, or is it not so bad? my PMS were usually worse than my period
Would you rather have your shirt be too long or too short? too long
Are you the type of person who can shake insults off easily, or do they tend to stick around in your brain & bother you? stay forever
Do you like clothes with ruffles on them? usually not
Were you happy when you woke up today? I wasn’t
Have you used the opposite sex’s bathroom in a public place before? had to
Do you rent movies frequently? I don’t have money for that
Do you quote movies or songs to answer survey questions? very rarely as it’s annoying
What is your name spelled backwards? Annazuz :3
How do you think the world will end? people will destroy it?
An alien ship lands at your house, and they want you. Do you go with them?
If you were in a horror flick, would you be one of the first ones to die? I think I would survive or die saving someone
What movie has been taken WAY too far, as far as sequels go? most of them but it’s more shows’ thingy
Do you get a fake Christmas tree each year, or a real one? fake, I’m against using real ones
How long would you have to know someone before tying the knot? it’s not about length of time that much
Would you embarass yourself if you met your favorite celebrity? probably :x
If a person had a glass eye, would that scare you? no idea, hope not as I don’t wanna make them feel bad, sorry in advance
Are you a twin? am not
Do you get paranoid that someone’s looking at your through your window? my neighbor sometimes does so...
Mountains, oceans, or forests? forests
When was the last time you “de-haired” your hairbrush? recently?
Are any of your great grandparents still alive? they’re all dead
Where’s your significant other? visiting her dad
How much blankets do you sleep under? 1-2
Is a hair dryer a necessity for you? it is
If you were atop a tall building, would you throw stuff at people below? don’t do that!
Do you believe we really landed on the moon? I don’t give a shit
Name a movie everyone else thought was funny, but you couldn’t stand: majority of comedies tbh
What topping do you HATE on pizzas? same, I’m more into simple food
Got any interesting wigs? bunch
Can you resist temptation? most often
Would a credit card get you into trouble? if I lost it, I would be paranoid about it 24/7, omg I just got scared I’ve lost my ID and bus card
Truth or dare? truth?
Which is more annoying: sequels or prequels? *shrug*
Do you use rechargeable batteries? when I did they were blowing up, didn’t charge back or smth like this so I prefer normal ones thank you very much
Describe the chair you’re sitting in. Is it comfy? it's so old there’s barely anything left to sit on but I have no cash for a new one nor can get that kind of chair anywhere so... 2 pillows under my butt have to be enough
What would you do if you thought someone was following you? try to lose them
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hi!!! there’s so much cool stuff and great ideas in the tag, i’m excited to see it all play out!! i’m just listing some plots or connections i would especially love to see/write for my chars so feel free to hmu if any of this interests u (here or discord @ GAY.I. #7353) or if u just wanna talk/plot other stuff!!!
suzu sterling - sonoya mizuno / 30 / stuntwoman + personal trainer / twitch.tv
an actress she’s stunt doubling for (mb on a longer series) who she does not get along w at ALL but they’re stuck w each other
gym/hiking/bouldering buddies who she gets v competitive with
personal training clients (she started at a gym, gained traction/needed more flexibility w her stunt jobs, and transitioned to having her own little studio/private sessions at clients’ homes)- ones that stuck w her, and ones she just Doesn’t get along w bc she’s… v particular
rich acquaintances from childhood/family friends
exes (ladies, probs ~pre-2016?)- gimme awk run-ins/jobs w exes she’s no longer on speaking terms w, high-profile ex she couldn’t handle mb!!
sammy otsuka - araki yuko / 25 / saxophonist/jazz musician / twitter
the one ex that dumped her, and all the rest she dumped bc she couldn’t handle it and now just wants to be the one to break it off first (any gender)
musical collabs- anyone need a sax solo on a track or sax player for live gigs?
someone’s kids she can tutor in sax
a couple roommates, maybe a friend group, to deal w her messy self
other instrumentalists that maybe formed a band w her but they’re Struggling to figure out their sound? it’s weird??
celebs or ppl she met while working on cruise ships that she managed to get contact info for and likes to bother occasionally quite frequently
patrick pyo - kim jaehwan / 24 / webcomic artist / snapchat
a girl whose heart he broke (and feels awful abt) bc they dated but he’s only ever been in love w one girl and couldn’t make it work in the end (but he let it drag on for too long bc he’s Like That)
cast/crew for the show based on his comic dream state- esp. a director he might not see eye to eye w (just like he is w alexa, the writer), and dani’s love interest on the show so he can be brooding and Jealous
a roommate!! who may or may not be happy abt a future big dog joining the household
writer or artist friends mb to form an informal writers/creatives’ workshop??
a mentor to guide him professionally bc he’s deer-in-headlights rn
ballroom dancing partner LMAO bc he takes classes
other: would love apartment neighbor plots bc FUN.
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( nikki. 21. ctz. she/her. ) it might be HER SENIOR year but I still think MARIAN "MIMI" DUNLEAVY looks exactly like IMOGEN POOTS and sometimes I think the FEMALE is actually her. Of course I’m wrong, as she's 22 and studying STUDIO ART while living in AUDAX here at Lockwood. The LEO can be rather EMPATHETIC and SUPPORTIVE, but also kind of PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE and MOODY. Their most played song on Spotify was WOMAN by MUMFORD + SONS, so I think that says a lot.
tw: drugs tw: alcohol tw: death
marian (mimi) is patrick’s twin sister and the only person who gets away with calling him ‘patty.’ even tho they’re twins, she looks at him as the big brother bc he’s got his shit together and she’s a bit of a mess
the dunleavys are from ireland originally but they mostly grew up in boston. mimi hates boston bc she felt stifled by the ‘tyranny of capitalism’ which basically means she felt like arts were disregarded bc ppl were so stressed about making a living
her dream is basically to live in a tiny studio loft in soho where she can do art with the windows open and a blunt in between her fingers
mimi’s parents got pregnant super young and ended up separated -- her dad took her and patrick to boston, but their mom stayed behind. their mom is basically awol and has a whole new family now
she doesn’t trust women at all bc of shit w her mom-- mimi kept reaching out and tried to visit her mom in ireland multiple times before it became very obvious that she had a new family and wanted nothing to do with mimi
mimi’s dad didn’t really know how to be a dad - he just knew how to put his head down and work, so he did.
mimi was sort of a ‘problem child’ bc she is very go-with-the-flow/down for anything, so she ended up getting mixed up in drugs/underage drinking in high school
she and patty are extremely close and he’s the person she calls to bail her out of shit.
mimi is very in touch with her emotions -- which means she’s both deeply empathetic and horrendously moody. she’s learned over the years to channel her feelings into art, so sometimes she’ll just disappear and reappear with a new piece a few days later instead of making others deal with her mood swings
freshman year, mimi went on a bit of a bender and ran around with a ‘rough’ crowd -- she wanted to do something impulsive, so she started selling drugs
junior year, she sold a guy oxy who ended up dying due to overdose and she feels responsible
mimi quit selling and hasn’t been the same since; she very easily goes into isolation/depressive episodes and is smoking more than ever
she didn’t even tell patrick about this -- making it her ‘big secret’
when patrick got kicked out of their old school, mimi saw it as the perfect opportunity to leave and get a fresh start somewhere new
mimi has no idea what she wants to do after graduation, her dream is to be a curator at a museum but she’s afraid that her record won’t allow her to get a ‘real’ job
P L O T S
tbh all the basic ones -- exes, hookups, classmates, drug friends
I honestly really want a pregnancy scare/plot ? idk hmu if you’d be down
friends with benefits !! mimi is sooo moody honestly I can see her using this as an outlet and being super ok with it
friends !! it doesn’t matter how they met, mimi is the biggest wingman/hype man around and will always go to bat for her friends!
maybe the other ppl who live in her building ? i can imagine them complianing bc of the weed or smthn !
i’m down for anything, basically!! like this if you want me to slide in your dms and I will!
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before i write anything else im going to make a post about my various headcanons for the Four Boys in coac
albert:
born 12/25/1843 in clogerhead, county louth, ireland, to patrick and sallie hodgers and patrick died either before albert was born or when he was very young (this is all historical fact not a headcanon)
sallie remarried after patrick’s death and had a daughter, then later died during the famine
albert came to america when he was 14/15 after stowing away on a ship that would dock in boston. he worked there for a time before paying for passage west to work on farms and such.
joined the army in part because it offered new possibilities but also because his employer had taken a liking to him and was telling him to marry his daughter and that freaked albert out (this is an actual theory that some ppl have)
he was technically illiterate and signed all of his documents with an X (historical) though he recognized his named and some simple words
actually really liked and was good with kids, especially as he got older, even though he was kind of gruff with most people!!!
and even though he was Gruff he wasn’t necessarily unkind- historically he was well-liked by his neighbors to the point that they would bring him gifts- and was pretty much always keen to lend a helping hand when it was asked of him
for sure smoked cigars and/or a pipe and you CANNOT tell me differently
jeff:
oldest child in a big family. had five siblings, four of which made it to adulthood.
his parents are named lawrence and frances. kids in order of age: jeffrey “jeff”, lawrence “laurie”, charlotte “charlie”, anna “annie”, frances “fanny”, and nathaniel “nate”
he takes after his mom in personality and in coloring but he’s tall and lanky like his dad
actually from rockford, indiana, not rockford, illinois. when he’s talking to albert right before the scene change after bullet in a gun, he says “my daddy harkened from rockford, indiana, and met my mama in belvidere, illinois...” and in battle cry of freedom he also says that he’s from rockford. he probably spent a few years there as a child before the family moved back to belvidere some time after laurie was born but before charlie was born.
was about 20 years old when he enlisted in 1862, meaning he was born in 1842, a year and some change before albert
its kind of mentioned in battle cry of freedom but jeff was a bargeman on the great lakes & the erie canal before the war (”came from rockford, sailed the docks from michigan to albany”)
he managed his family’s farm for a time before passing it on to charlie and her husband and instead taking up a more community centric role in his wife’s family’s general store, and then he moved on to politics
wife was named elizabeth “betty” theresa ross
they had three children, in order of ages: harriet “hattie”, lawrence “laurie”, and clara. betty was closest to laurie and jeff was closest to clara.
billy:
youngest of four kids, with two older brothers and an older sister. his mom is a widow; his father died when he was about nine.
in brothers in arms he says he’s 16, and we can assume that the number was set in late 1862 or early 1863, meaning that he would have been born probably some time in 1846.
historical william middleton came from flora township, illinois, which is about ten minutes away from belvidere by car. i mention in fics that that’s where billy’s family lives; it would have taken only about two hours to walk between belvidere and flora township.
i think his actor said at one point something about billy having adhd, and though i could be wrong on this i’m also pretty partial to it
i know that i talk about how Every Single Character has freckles but like..... billy has freckles
came from a really poor family, so he can’t read well if at all, and probably never actually went to a real school. he learned his numbers and simple addition and subtraction from his mother, but other than that he didn’t have a lot in the way of education.
knew jeff before they enlisted- they come on stage during ghost boy chasing each other so its obvious that they were at least familiar- and billy was about the same age as jeff’s deceased brother laurie, so it’s possible that they met through him.
that being said he and albert bond over the fact that neither of them are literate, and also that he feels that albert is the only one who doesn’t see him as a kid
walter:
son of a freedman from texas (this is canon) and it’s implied that his family were actually of carribbean descent (he says something along these lines right before following the sound, though i can’t remember the exact words
he’s a single child and the oldest out of him, jeff, albert, and billy. probably about 21/22 upon enlistment in 1862, meaning that he was born in 1840 or 1841.
his mother is never mentioned and his father served under zachary taylor in the mexican war, which was from 1846 to 1848, meaning that walter went a few years without actually seeing his dad. after the mexican war the family moved north to illinois when it became clear that texas would no longer be a free state. he was probably about ten years old.
she had never had the strongest constitution but pregnancy and birth had been hard on walter’s mother and had left her sort of frail, which was why walter doesn’t have any other siblings. she passed away on the move from texas to illinois.
his father was arrested when walter was seventeen for being unable to provide proof that he was a free man, and walter never saw him again. by this time, walter himself was already apprenticed to a white barber who had abolitionist leanings, and who vouched for walter’s status.
historically walter would have been what was called a barber-surgeon, in that he didn’t have official medical training and was technically just a barber, but had enough knowledge to perform minor medical procedures. he didn’t enlist with knowledge on how to perform more complex procedures like amputations, but he learned from working with army medics
probably sweet-talked the recruiter for his placement, because typically regiments were segregated. historically, there were no black men in the 95th illinois.
that being said walter was a good sweet-talker. he had a pretty easy going temperament and knew how to butter people up and was good at it, but he also knew how to keep his cool in high pressure situations, which was good for him as a surgeon.
#coac#the civility of albert cashier#civility of albert cashier#this is a LONG post so i stuck it under a readmore#ref
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tiers 2-6 (gonna keep updating this post as i add new peeps so check back ;D)
HENRY ADAMS (36) tom hiddleston * taken by kate aa Occupation: Software Designer Relationship(s): Clara Neville (girlfriend), Amelia Foster (ex-fiancée), Victor Glass, Frederick Cordel (best friends)
ten years ago, henry was gonna marry amelia but she broke it off soon after they got engaged
so that was fun
she broke his heart!!!!!
didn’t think he would ever love anyone ever again but then he met clara!!!!
they’ve been dating now for a few years and henry!!! loves her so much!!!!!
kinda been toying with the idea of asking her to marry him but he’s so terrified of being hurt again he’s not sure he can do it
he’s been dragging his feet at every new step in their relationship b/c he’s so scared to move forward
suPER SMART and has his own startup company that’s become pretty successful
the type of dude who holds doors open for girls
willing to take calculated risks in his business ventures but not so much with his heart
GILLIAN CARTWRIGHT (27) jennifer lawrence * taken by lizzy Occupation: Relationship(s): Lucas Cartwright, Hannah Cartwright, Sarah Cartwright, Allison Cartwright (sisters), Samantha Thomas (best friend), Nicholas Gray (friend/interest), Nathan Yates (sister’s boyfriend/unsure of), David Carter, Joshua Gordon, Rebecca Taylor, Shannon Ryan, Eloise Ryan, Patrick Nolan (friends), Margaret Gray (irritant/brother’s girlfriend)
jill helps keep the family grounded in reality
their dad was just found guilty of money laundering and tax fraud so he’s in jail now and he and their mom are going through a messy divorce after more than thirty years of marriage
lucas likes pretending that none of this is happening
hannah likes to think that it’s going to be okay!!!! and that’ll he’ll be proven innocent!!!! and everything will go back to normal
sarah likes to be dramatic about it
allison likes to be angry
also everyday they seem to find out more horrible things that he’s supposedly done, so that’s fun
on top of it jill’s recently developed feelings for her best friend’s boyfriend
so that’s fun
sometimes thinks that maybe he feels the same way but she would never, ever act on those feelings!!!!!
pretty worried about her sister’s new relationship with nathan yates
she seems super happy but she’s wondering if they are getting too serious too quickly and is afraid she’s gonna get hurt
super private, super practical
SARAH CARTWRIGHT (26) emma watson * taken by kate aa Occupation: Relationship(s): Lucas Cartwright, Hannah Cartwright, Gillian Cartwright, Allison Cartwright (sisters), Nathan Yates (boyfriend), Joshua Gordon, David Carter, Shannon Ryan, Eloise Ryan, Patrick Nolan (irritants/friends), Margaret Gray (enemy), Madeline Cordel (best friend)
feels!!!!!! emotions!!!!!!!! deeply!!!!
wears her heart on her sleeve
everyone in the room knows exactly how she’s feeling at any given moment
can sometimes be a drama queen honestly
super high energy and giddy when she’s happy
sulky when she’s sad
loves to experience things!!!!! loves to travel!!!!!
hasn’t ever really dated anyone b/f b/c she has supER high expectations
tbh they are probably a little unrealistic
reads too many books and watches too many movies
was kinda in a bad place after her dad went to prison and her parents divorced
spent a lot of time in her room and taking long walks and generally just feeling brokenhearted by it all
has def been in a better mood since meeting nathan tho!!
when she met nathan she was just so!!!! swept up by him!!!!!
seems to understand her more than anyone else she’s ever met
can be a little self-centered and impatient at times but her heart is def in the right place!
loves watching the rain
can tell that david is interested in her and she’s flattered by she wishes he move on so they could just be friends
thinks with her heart not her head
CATHERINE CLARKE (32) gal gadot * open Occupation: Relationship(s): Natalie Clarke, Emma Clarke, Sophia Clarke, Teresa Clarke, Cecilia Clarke (sisters), Mark Carter (friend), Sebastian Cordel (interest), Brian Clarke (cousin)
basically raised her sisters
her mom died when she was 12 and while they still had their dad, he wasn’t the same afterwards
Wine Mom
not ~technically a mom but has it down
says lots of loud and embarrassing things about “her kids”
“i’m a cool mom” ~ cate,
“no she isn’t” ~ lia
AGGRESSIVELY WANTS THEM TO GET MARRIED AND BE HAPPY
sorta feels like it is too late for her???
plus if any guy comes around and tries to get with her she waves them off b/c she doesn’t have time for that
kinda lives vicariously through her sisters and is a little too pushy whenever a guy shows the slightest interest in them
(also lowkey always had a crush on sebastian cordel even tho she knew he hated her and when he got married it secretly crushed her)
honestly has been talking of nothing else but the wedding between joesph cole and emma ever since he breathed in her general direction.
lia is her joy, emma is her pride
loves the middle girls, too, but isn’t as close with them
can be a little dramatic sometimes
needs to know where all of her peeps are at all times so texts them all a lot
EMMA CLARKE (30) emilia clarke * taken by kate aa Occupation: Florist Relationship(s): Catherine Clarke, Natalie Clarke, Sophia Clarke, Teresa Clarke, Cecilia Clarke (sisters), Mark Carter (best friend), Alexandra Cole, Rebecca Taylor (friends), Joseph Cole (interest) Brian Clarke (cousin)
when her cousin brian needed a place to crash, emma was quick to offer the couch to him!!!!
natalie was less happy about it but she let it happen
emma has been the perfect hostess and caters to his every whim!!!!
she’s so nice to him that he doesn’t really wanna leave
(it has been a year)
but that’s just who emma is!
she’s sweet and kind and caring and the word no isn’t in her vocabulary
she’s the “back up mom”
has helped cate mother the other girls but in a much quieter, more helpful way
less in ur face about it. quiet, kind, considerate
sees the good in everyone (even when it isn’t there tbh)
such heart!!!! eyes!!!!! @ joseph cole but too shy to do anything about it.
NATALIE CLARKE (28) alicia vikander * taken by lizzy Occupation: Editor Relationship(s): Catherine Clarke, Emma Clarke, Sophia Clarke, Teresa Clarke, Cecilia Clarke (sisters), Elizabeth Martin, Mark Carter (best friends), Christopher Ellis, Virginia Ellis, Alexandra Cole (annoyances), Brian Clarke (cousin/annoyance), Dominic Young (intrigued), Arthur Ellis, Joseph Cole, Xavier Quaine (friends)
doesn’t take life too seriously
laughs at everything
kinda cynical
wishes chris would stop trying to talk to her
lives with her sis, emma
emma is hands down her fav sibling
loves all of them but honestly rolls her eyes/is frustrated with the other four a LOT. so thankful for everything that catherine did for her growing up but is glad to be out of the house
can be kinda judgemental of other ppl???
impulsive, stubborn, outspoken, vivacious, loving
her cousin brian is currently crashing on their couch b/c emma said he could stay as long as he needs while he finds a new place
emma is so nice to him that natalie is afraid he wants to stay forever
natalie was nice to him at first but it’s been almost a year and now she’s 1000% done w/ him
SOPHIA CLARKE (27) dakota johnson * open Occupation: Relationship(s): Catherine Clarke, Emma Clarke, Natalie Clarke, Teresa Clarke, Cecilia Clarke (sisters), Brian Clarke (cousin), Mark Carter (friend), Xavier Quaine (interest)
awkward turtle?????
the 1 who blends into the background the most of all the sisters
says the wrong thing always
likes to spend her time reading books and with her cat
when she doesn’t know what to say, she just says her favorite quotes????
doesn’t??? always??? make ???? sense????
her headphones are always in
will never hear u if u try to talk to her
can do The Thing where she walks and reads at the same time
talks more to her cat than people
1 time someone was being super annoying and she just hissed at them and they went away
half in love with xavier quaine but they’ve never actually spoken
TERESA CLARKE (25) daisy ridley * open Occupation: Relationship(s): Catherine Clarke, Emma Clarke, Natalie Clarke, Sophia Clarke, Cecilia Clarke (sisters), Brian Clarke (cousin), Mark Carter (friend), Adam Vaughan (interest), Penelope Quaine (friend)
tess is a mess
not ready to Adult
spends too much time hanging out with lia honestly
still lives at home w/ no sense of direction re: her future
kinda immature. doesn’t know how to stop giggling <33333
her greatest life achievement is her twitter followers
also knows how to take flawless snaps
adam once gave her a ride in his car and she’s been <3333 eyes at him ever since
CECILIA CLARKE (20) natalia dyer * open Occupation: Relationship(s): Catherine Clarke, Emma Clarke, Natalie Clarke, Sophia Clarke, Cecilia Clarke (sisters), Brian Clarke (cousin), Mark Carter (friend), Dominic Young (interest)
so! spoiled!
kinda wild.
cate literally cannot say no to her
their mom died when she was born so cate is the only mom she’s ever known
a prime example of what happens when a 12 year old raises you tbh
obsessed with boy bands and reality tv
spends too much time at the mall chasing boys
tess is lia’s bff
they do everything together
the older sister she aspires to be
the only sister who seems to constantly be enjoying herself and for lia that’s just #goals
has a HUGE crush on dominic young
he’s old enough to be her dad but that isn’t stopping her
BRIAN CLARKE (32) zach woods * open Occupation: Relationship(s): Catherine Clarke, Emma Clarke, Natalie Clarke, Sophia Clarke, Teresa Clarke, Cecilia Clarke (cousins), Virginia Ellis (boss), Elizabeth Martin (co-worker/interest), Samantha Thomas (ex-girlfriend), Damon Napier (thinks they are friends but they aren’t)
confident, conceited, awkward, suPER ANNOYING
got out of a long term relationship with Samantha Thomas a year ago
when they broke up, she got the apartment and he went to crash with his cousins, Emma and Natalie
a year later and he’s still living there
they’ve been so nice to him, he doesn’t want to leave
(when i say they, i mean emma)
works for virginia ellis and is at her beck and call 24/7!!!!!!!!!!
the gary to her selina meyer
thinks she’s the greatest person in the world and would speak her praises for dAYS
once she made a comment that brian should date elizabeth and now brian is dETERMINED to win her over
JOSEPH COLE (34) julian morris * taken by lizzy Occupation: Socialite/Philanthropist Relationship(s): Alexandra Cole (sister), Christopher Ellis (best friend), Evangeline Ellis, Natalie Clarke, Genevieve Quaine (friends), Emma Clarke (friend/interest)
energetic and social and loves doing!!!! things!!!!!! and meeting people!!!!!
a puppy in human form
he’s a good boy :)
his sister and bff chris are less likely to want to join him in his ventures but that’s!!! okay!!!! all he has to do is smile at them and they will come grumbling along <3
often gets evangeline excited too and when the two of them are eager to do something, alexandra and chris follow
joe is so!!!! nice and kind to everyone he meets
he has a lot of money and just wants to help everyone!!!!!
does a lot of charity work and lives pretty simply even tho he’s super wealthy
his heart stopped the first time he saw emma clarke!!!!!
he likes her so much he doesn’t know what to do about it
feels like she probably doesn’t like him in that way tho
his sister keeps trying to talk him out of it and it isn’t helping
she says he can do better (but joe knows that isn’t true)
ALEXANDRA COLE (33) felicity jones * open Occupation: Socialite Relationship(s): Joseph Cole (brother), Christopher Ellis (interest), Evangeline Ellis, Emma Clarke, William Cordel (friends), Natalie Clarke (rival)
~*~EYE ROLL QUEEN~*~
honestly hates most of the people in this town
cANNOT STAND people who are “uncultured” (aka poor)
has perfected being passive aggressive
glamorous, ambitious, strategic, well-educated
conniving, petty, sly, critical
has had her eye on christopher ellis since they were kids
has remained single in trying to catch him
hasn’t ever seen him super interested in anyone before so she always thought she had a chance until natalie clarke came into their lives???
alexandra: um no
doing her best to turn his attentions away from her but also pretty confident that natalie is only a passing fancy
does love her bro to pieces tho!!!!!! sometimes thinks he’s a bit of an idiot b/c he’s nice to everyone but y’know
LYNETTE COOPER (29) holliday grainger * open Occupation: Relationship(s): Leon Foster (boyfriend), Victoria Foster (”best friend”), Adrian Neville (interest), Juliana Foster, Amelia Foster (rivals), Madeline Cordel (friend)
knows that the fosters are struggling financially, but has faith that it will one day be restored
literally doesn’t care about any of them, least of all leon, but is sticking it out in hopes to being the next mrs. foster
knows how to stay on leon’s good side (literally just compliments him all the damn time
does the same thing w/ victoria tbh
had a thing for adrian neville but he straight up rejected her and it broke her heart so badly that she’s decided she doesn’t want anything to do with love
hates to see him constantly with juliana
but even she can see that he still loves amelia
amelia used to be her fav of the fosters but now she hates her too
LENNOX DAVIS (32) theo james * taken by kate aa Occupation: Socialite Relationship(s): Elena Greene (secret girlfriend), Andrea York (friend/flirtation), William Cordel (best friend), Simon York (friend), Charles Lawrence (annoyance)
secretly dating elena greene whom he’s loved literally from the first day he ever met her!!!!!!
but she’s just a waitress and his parents want him to marry someone “better” so he’s pretending to be interested in andrea york
does genuinely like her (but he doesn’t love her)
his parents are so thrilled by the fact that he might marry into one of the founding families!
eventually planning on telling his them that he’s in love with elena tho
but he knows that they will cut him off financially when he does
so he’s secretly getting his life together so he can be ok w/o their help
super charming and charismatic!!!
literally can charm his way into anything
tries to distance himself from elena in public and is sometimes a little too mean to her
doesn’t realize that some of the things he says really hurt her
enjoys his sense of humor and thinks he’s hilarious
CHRISTOPHER ELLIS (39) tom hardy * taken by kate aa Occupation: Relationship(s): Evangeline Ellis (sister), Arthur Ellis, Virginia Ellis (cousins), Joseph Cole, Adrian Neville, Sebastian Cordel (best friends), Alexandra Cole (friend/annoyance), Natalie Clarke (interest), Dominic Young (enemy)
broody, quiet, reserved
doesn’t want to meet new people
the light of his life is his bff joe and his sister eva
both of them drag him to do things he doesn’t want to do but does anyway
(he grumbles about it but lowkey enjoys it mostly to see them happy)
has a thing for natalie clarke but messed it up b/c he was trying to talk to her and instead he just was mean?????
someone help him????
he has poor social skillz
he was childhood best friends with dominic young but stopped after he realized how much of an asshole he is
loves his cousins!!!!
honestly rolls his eyes at virginia a lot and doesn’t always listen to her input but he loves her all the same
adores arthur and the two have been friends for ever
can be kinda old fashioned and arrogant sometimes
the king of holding grudges
super generous!!!!!! and kind and intelligent
VIRGINIA ELLIS (35) michelle dockery * taken by kate aa Occupation: CEO at Ellis Enterprises Relationship(s): Arthur Ellis (brother), Christopher Ellis, Evangeline Ellis (cousins) Brian Clarke (right hand), Elizabeth Martin (employee), Adrian Neville (security guard/interest), Sebastian Cordel (friend), Amelia Foster (best friend)
can be super overbearing and domineering
took over her father’s business when she was twenty-six after he passed away and would NOT TAKE ANY SHIT from anyone
a lot of strong ~miranda priestly~ vibes honestly
“details of your incompetence do not interest me.”
“by all means move at a glacial pace. You know how that thrills me.”
eyebrow game is strong.
wants The Best for her cousins which isn’t always actually the best???
inserts her opinion even where it isn’t wanted
brian is her right hand. (and when i say right hand, i mean personal slave).
tbh he’s kind of the gary to her selina meyer???
has had a thing for adrian for years but would nEVER say anything b/c she feels love is a weakness and is instead v mean to him????
LEON FOSTER (38) luke evans * taken by lizzy Occupation: Socialite Relationship(s): Victoria Foster, Juliana Foster, Amelia Foster, (sisters), Antoinette Caron Cordel (ex-girlfriend/interest), Lynette Cooper (girlfriend)
a DRAMA QUEEN
he and victoria kinda spent all of the family money and now they are dirt poor
pretending to still have money for the sake of appearances but they barely have too pennies to rub together
saying that their large ass mansion is under renovations so that’s why they are slumming it in this tiny apartment but the reality is that they are selling their home
doesn’t really like lynette that much but she is constantly telling him how good looking and smart he is so he keeps her around
eventually means to dump her for a rich chick but she’s a great ego booster for now
has a gold medal in vanity
doesn’t??? know???? how they are going to solve the problem of “no money” but looks to amelia to solve it
“not my problem” ~ leon
“it actually is ur problem” ~amelia
AMELIA FOSTER (32) keira knightley * taken by lizzy Occupation: Relationship(s): Leon Foster (brother) Victoria Foster, Juliana Foster (sisters), Jonathan Fox, Lynette Cooper (irritants), Oliver Collins, Sebastian Cordel, Adrian Neville (friends), Henry Adams (ex-fiancé/interest), Clara Neville (friend/rival), Virginia Ellis (best friend)
amelia @ her siblings constant: god why
does her best to keep this crazy family together???
her older siblings spend money constantly!!!!!
and now they have nothing
amelia is the only one who actually has money b/c she got a job but she does NOT have enough to support her siblings during their financial crisis but they are kinda expecting her to
she doesn’t wanna turn them out so she’s letting them live @ her place temporarily/trying to get them back on their feet but it is nOT easy
ten years ago she was going to marry henry adams but she backed out soon after they got engaged
they were so young and she was scared
tbh she broke his heart
never ended up dating anyone else b/c she never found anyone better
misses him every day
now he’s with someone else and super happy and she’s happy for him but she still loves him a lot
JONATHAN FOX (36) michiel huisman * open Occupation: Conman Relationship(s): Juliana Foster (girlfriend), Andrea York (interest), Damon Napier (cousin)
a chameleon!!!!!
super adaptable
not actually rich but pretending to be
doesn’t realize that juliana is also pretending to be rich???
both dating each other for money the other does not have
#awkward
came into town with the plan to date andrea york to con her out of HER money (which she actually has) but developed some actual??? feelings????
so he changed his plans and now he’s just wasting his time
comes off as a nice guy, but isn’t really??
would sell u to satan for a corn chip
NICHOLAS GRAY (36) chris evans * taken by kate aa Occupation: The Family Disappointment/High School English Teacher Relationship(s): Margaret Gray (sister), ----- Gray (brother), Samantha Thomas (girlfriend), Gillian Cartwright (friend/interest), Sebastian Cordel, James Walker (best friends), Hannah Cartwright, Sarah Cartwright, Allison Cartwright, David Carter, Mark Carter (friends)
probably has some kind of super powers b/c he’s able to make his bff sebastian smile
truly a rare and impressive talent
has always been super laid back and chill
has a great working relationship with his students!!!
knows how to motivate and interest them
makes learning fun!
(can get a little awkward sometimes tho b/c it is pretty obvious that like half of the kids have a crush on him but can you blame them?)
a great sense of humor
currently dating sam thomas
cares about her a lot but has recently developed feelings for her best friend jill
it’s not great
has plans to break up with her but doesn’t want to b/c he knows if he does, he probably won’t see jill anymore
pus he doubts he and jill will ever get together since he dated her best friend so ???
#feel free to reserve peeps if u see anyone u like#i know adding to posts is super annoying but it is for my sanity
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RITES OF PASSAGE
Logan, Katie, Josh, and Jakey, it’s time for us to remember those who have fallen. It’s been a long and winding journey up here among the stars, and you wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for the other twelve people who used to be part of the crew.... so let’s take a moment to say their names, and memorialize their place in the cosmos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf8hdNL7ZUA
KAREN
Jakey:
“KAREN i wish you waited more than 5 minutes to come after me cause i wanted to work with you!!! i knew u were good with katie n would be a good ally but u rly tried to eat this pussy and i wasn’t into it!!!! but ik you’re rly funny and you prob would’ve been more active than most of these people so im sry :( but i rly had to show these bitches not to continue trying me”
Logan:
“- If you were an animal, you would be a deer because you're friendly, peaceful, and compassionate. - Your song: MMMBop by Hanson“
Katie:
"I love you bitch, I ain't never gonna stop loving you, biiiiiitch."
JAY
Jakey:
“i wish we were able to talk more!!! your time was cut short because you chose the wrong side and i was just getting out the people who voted for me im sry bae”
Katie:
"Whoever threw that paper, your mom's a hoe."
LAURENCE
Logan:
“- If you were an animal, you would be a deer because you're friendly, peaceful, and compassionate. - Your song: MMMBop by Hanson“
Katie:
"Ah f**k, I can't believe you've done this."
STEVIE
Jakey:
“hello my king. i wish you just voted with me the first round!!!!! i rly liked you, but i had stronger relationships with everyone else and felt i could trust them more. i appreciate your fight tho it was fun playing together!“
Josh:
“I was really excited to see you and to play with you again! It’s just a shame that we ended up in a position where we couldn’t. Hope you’re doing well though!“
Katie:
"Do you want to go see Uncle Cracker or no?"
OWEN
Jakey:
“!!!!! you were in this game that is WILD to me… the all stars casting WHEW this was a cast from hell, truly. KJFJKKFJ but I’ve always loved u even if we aren’t always working together in games. and in this game we started on opposite sides which is ultimately why i had to make the move i did!!! no matter how much i wanted to play w you down the line, you had ur allegiances!!!! i wish i was at least able to catch up w you :( remember that snap you sent me on thanksgiving once???????????????????????? ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;))))))CTFU”
Katie:
“Um, I'm never been to oovoo javer."
Logan:
“- If you were an animal, you would be a penguin because you're gentle, enigmatic, and hard-working. - Your song: Temptation by New Order”
CARSON
Jakey:
“wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you rly had to get voted out right before a merge… we would have RAN THIS GAME!!!! ily i hope ur great bc ur great and u deserve everything a literal ANGEL!!!! im gonna yell at katie for voting you out now”
Josh:
“The Minkowski music video we did was the best one I’ve seen and it’s thanks to your dancing! It was nice getting to know you and to play with you!”
Katie:
“Mother trucker dude, that hurt like a butt cheek on a stick.“
Logan:
“- If you were an animal, you would be a horse because you're noble, loyal, and free-spirited. - Your song: Waterfalls by TLC”
RICHIE
Jakey:
“!!!! my actual favorite… you were def my closest ally (asides from renee) and i loved our little f3 sm ugh… the first merge round rly was the ugliest thing i’ve ever seen and i’m so sorry i couldn’t save you :( youre the funniest person on this cast and i wish we had more time to fuck shit up in this game together. we did premerge tho so i’ll cherish our moments <3″
Josh:
“My Arabia child! I’ve always been a fan of you and after watching you play twice as a host I was so excited to finally play with you! We really had a great thing going and was totally 100% with you but towards the end the relationship kinda took a dive as I’ve met more and talked to people.”
Logan:
“- If you were an animal, you would be a hedgehog because you're sarcastic, cunning, and individualistic. - Your song: Jumpin' Jumpin' by Destiny's Child”
DREW
Jakey:
“the cat with nine lives!!! even tho we legit met at the merge, i was so loyal to you. you were someone alone in the game and i was on the bottom so hell yeah i wanted us to slay!!!! but unfortunately, YET AGAIN, i was so close to saving you but it fuckin tied and ONCE AGAIN, i was the only one to stick to my word and keep you in the revote. A TREND… that i die for my allies cause YOU DESERVED SOMEONE BEING LOYAL TO YOU IN THIS GAME GKJGJKKJG i love u and that’s that. u slayed this season as an underdog i was shook!”
Josh:
“Whenever we play games like this somehow we always end up not on the same side even if we have a 400~ day streak LOL”
Katie:
“Country boy, I love you ahhhwweelhwh...”
Logan:
“- If you were an animal, you would be a zebra because you're loyal, intelligent, and committed. - Your song: Dreams by Fleetwood Mac”
PATRICK
Jakey:
“i can’t believe we were able to play this game together for a while and put the past in the past! the premerge was the jakerick fantasy… when you didn’t lie and ignore me </3 hahah but i understand why you chose to play the game you did and i can’t fault you for it!!!! you tried to kill minkowski but i WOULDN’t let u KJFJKFKJ ily pat and i think you’re honestly a kind, caring person with good intentions. not to mention you crack me UP— your sense of humor is truly unique and hilarious and it’s the part i admire the most of u. great game, yet again, pat!”
Josh:
“Pattycakes! I really enjoyed the time we spent together in this game! Working with you from the start was such a pleasure. Thanks for humouring me when I have the nerd itch (can’t wait for the CR animated special! uwu)”
Katie:
“So you just gonna bring me a birthday gift on my birthday to my birthday party on my birthday with a birthday gift?”
Logan:
“- If you were an animal, you would be a giraffe because you're self-confident, charming, and vainglorious. - Your song: What I Like About You by The Romantics”
KARTER
Jakey:
“you are so sweet!!! we obviously weren’t on the same side of many votes this season. we started separately and you had your loyalties so i knew i wouldn’t ever be a very close ally to you. you played this game very well and i have so much respect for you as a game player! if this was ur first game im VERYYYY impressed i think my first game i would randomize my vote cause i thought it was funny. JKFJKF but anyway whew u were a tough competitor! wish u the best w everything <3″
Josh:
“We may not have spoken that much but the time we spent together i feel like you’re very sweet and you struck me as a person who couldn’t hurt a fly! Your spacesuit in our music video was iconic too!”
Katie:
"I didn't get no sleep cause of y'all, y'all not gone get no sleep cause of me!"
Logan:
“- If you were an animal, you would be a panda because you're caring, playful, and self-sufficient. - Your song: Groove Is in the Heart by Deee-Lite”
LYDIA
Jakey:
“i wasn’t going to make one for you cause i don’t want anything i say to be seen as a strategic-gain in this game, but i just rly want to say i don’t hate you. i do think you’re a kind person w a good heart and good intentions. we may not always mix in the right way, but i think in real life without the stress of this game, we’d be good friends, and i hope we can work things out after this all!!”
Josh:
“The moment I saw you on the cast list I was so excited and decided then and there that I want to work with you given the chance and I’m so glad we did! I enjoyed our short calls of us panicking and doing wild impulsive stuff. This game is very stressful and part of the reason I managed to hang in there was because you were able to keep me from overthinking too much.“
Katie:
“"Nice Ron" "I sneezed, oh, what, am I not allowed to sneeze?"“
Logan:
“- If you were an animal, you would be an owl because you're intuitive, observant, and skillful. - Your song: I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Who Loves Me) by Whitney Houston”
RENEE
Jakey:
“imyimyimyimy why’d u leave me!!! my partner-in-crime this whole game!!! i love you renee we clicked INSTANTLY and from there you’ve been my ride o die this whole way. when ppl would say where’s renee??? she’s inactive. i’d be like pls she could show up for 5 minutes per round and still get the votes to save herself. YOU’RE A LEGEND and an underrated queen! if your real life wasn’t so demanding, i know those ocean waves aren’t gonna sail themselves, you’d be in the end! <3 <3 <3 <3“
Josh:
“what happened to our f2?”
Katie:
"Ms. Keisha, MS. KEISHA! Oh my f**king God, she f**king dead."
Logan:
“- If you were an animal, you would be a tiger because you're elegant, enigmatic, and unpredictable. - Your song: You Oughta Know by Alanis Morissette”
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for the pride asks: 10-29? B3c
aaaaaaaa ty babe!!!!!!!!
ask me gay shit B3c
10. who has been your supportive idol(s) in your self discovery?
tbh my sister!!!! shes openly gay and its been Rlly helpful to have her around :3c
11. tell us about your first crush
my first CRUSH crush was prob selena gomez/alex russo?? like the character she played in wizards of waverly place; my first Conscious crush was prob on this girl in my grade, Mary. she has. rlly nICE LEGS SDKJFHSKDLJF
12. what sort of advice do you have to lgbtq+ teens?
i AM one but uuuuuuuh research and dont be upset if your self-discovery takes time :3c
13. have you come out to friends and family?
yup!!!! im out to my sister and dad and most of my friend group, +some other random ppl :3c
14. how do you feel about the term “coming out”?
tbh i dont have a concrete opinion??? so i cant rlly answer that sdfjksdf
15. do you believe there is a “closet” to come out of?
i. dont rlly understand the question tbh--
16. any tips on coming out?
uuuh make sure the person isnt a Bigot first off bc thatll be awkward and potentially dangerous, uuuuh be prepared for questions/maybe explaining terms, and in general if ur anxious its Okay bc goddamn is it worrying coming out
17. what’s your biggest pet peeve when it comes to lgbtq+ characterization in media?
THE WLW CHARACTERS ALWAYS BEING KILLED OFF, WHAT THE FUCK, DUDE WHAT THE FUCK STOP
18. what’s your favorite part(s) of lgbtq+ characterization in media?
tbh i love when lgbtq+ couples are loving and supportive and nice and just???? my heart is Warm
19. what did your teachers say about the lgbtq+ community in school?
im a part of the younger generation, and so far ive only been met with support!!! i even have a few gay teachers who run my schools gsa :3c i got into a nice talk w a teacher my sisters age once abt homophobia too which was p cool
20. do you practice safe sex with the same gender?
im a virgin but i plan on it so??
21. what’s an absolute turn off for you in the opposite/same gender?
uuuuuh pprob the playing hard to get thing bc i am. Anxietee and will interpret it as that im Not Wanted
22. what’s an absolute turn on for you in the opposite/same gender?
mmmmmprob being like??? genuinely Sweet and accepting??? +freckles are always nice B3c
23. how do you feel about lgbtq+ clubs/apps/websites?
i rlly like them tbh!!!! i joined a new one recently and i rlly like it (someone from it is coming over tomorrow actually B3) and its just???? i like being able to Congregate
24. how do you feel about the term “queer”?
tbh i personally like and use it, but i can def get why ppl wouldnt like it and i wouldnt use it in front of ppl uncomfy w it!!
25. how does your country view the lgbtq+ community?
im in the US, so p good but still not the Best??
26. favorite lgbtq+ actor?
mmmmeither thomas sanders or neil patrick harris :3c
27. any tups for straight people on how to handle lgbtq+ events/news?
like. ask about it/try to Help if you can but dont act like you’re personally affected by it if you’re not lgbtq+ ?? and listen to the ppl bein Affected by it (sorry if that came out Weird)
28. what’s the most annoying question you’ve ever gotten?
“if you havent had sex, how do you know you like girls?” like. if you havent had sex when ur younger how do you know ur STRAIGHT pat jesus
(that came from my therapist. shes p accepting tho so)
29. how do you feel about receiving questions about your sexuality/gender?
i like that ppl are willing to learn and answer them if i can :3c
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92 truths tag
(omg wow this is rlly long, so i’m going to put it under a read more too lol)
rules: once you have been tagged you are supposed to write 92 truths about yourself. at the end, choose 25 people to tag!
tagged by: @lunah - 💖💖💖💖
LAST… [1] drink: water :’Db [2] phone call: my dad [3] text message: my friend jelly [4] song you listened to: youth by daughter [5] time you cried: saturday night bc i was rlly tired and i started tearing up RIP
HAVE YOU EVER… [6] dated someone twice: nah [7] been cheated on: nope [8] kissed someone and regretted it: no [9] lost someone special: yes [10] been depressed: i’m not sure [11] gotten drunk and thrown up: lol no
LIST 3 FAVOURITE COLOURS: [12] red (like…the cherry kind of red) [13] lavender [14] rose gold
IN THE LAST YEAR HAVE YOU… [15] made new friends: yes c: [16] fallen out of love: maybe in, but not out lol [17] laughed until you cried: all the time [18] found out someone was talking about you: no [19] met someone who changed you: not really [20] found out who your true friends are: i think i already know who they are by now [21] kissed someone on your facebook list: LOL NO
GENERAL… [22] how many of your facebook friends do you know in real life: all of them except for one [23] do you have any pets: nope :( [24] do you want to change your name: no, i like my name! except sometimes i’m just :))) at it bc ppl spell it wrong All The Damn Time. i like how it kind of feels like i’m the only person w that name though LOL [25] what did you do for your last birthday: i went out to pizza and bowling w my friends [26] what time did you wake up: 6:40 am [27] what were you doing at midnight last night: either reading fics or scrolling through my dash lol [28] name something you cannot wait for: this week to be over lol [29] when was the last time you saw your mother: idk but she’s here [30] what is one thing you wish you could change about your life: i wish i was really good at talking to other people [31] what are you listening to right now: i want it that way by the backstreet boys [32] have you ever talked to a person named tom: no…my cousin’s name is thomas tho [33] something that is getting on your nerves: patrick [34] most visited website: tinklr dot hell [35] elementary: i miss the playground :( [36] high school: yes [37] college: i’m trying……i wanna go to somewhere like ucla or uc berkeley omg…… [38] hair colour: dark brown [39] long or short hair: short !!!! my hair’s at my shoulders rn but i’d like it to be a bit shorter hahahaha [40] do you have a crush on someone: i think so, but i'm not sure riperoni [41] what do you like about yourself?: uh idk my skin tone? [42] piercings: ears [43] blood type: B+ (be positive!!) [44] nickname: sen / bison / RCC / rice cooker / gemini / lynnerd [45] relationship status: a pringle [46] zodiac sign: gemini [47] pronouns: they/them [48] fav tv show: ahh i rlly like star wars: the clone wars, yuri!!! on ice, and voltron legendary defender [49] tattoos: i don’t have any [50] right or left handed: right
FIRST… [51] surgery: nope [52] piercing: ears [53] best friend: the people i met in fourth grade (ily) [54] sport: swimming [55] vacation: a cabin in lake tahoe during the winter [56] pair of trainers: idk probably pokemon velcro shoes when i was a toddler? idk?
RIGHT NOW… [57] eating: nothing [58] drinking: black tea [59] i’m about to: study
[60] listening to: freedom by beyoncé [61] waiting for: nothing [62] want: good grades [63] get married: idk? [64] career: student
WHICH IS BETTER… [65] hugs or kisses: hugs [66] lips or eyes: eyes [67] shorter or taller: taller [68] older or younger: older [69] romantic or spontaneous: romantic [70] nice arms or nice stomach: arms? [71] sensitive or loud: sensitive [72] hook up or relationship: relationship [73] troublemaker or hesitant: hesitant
HAVE YOU EVER… [74] kissed a stranger? no [75] drank hard liquor? nope [76] lost glasses/contact lenses? i don’t wear glasses [77] turned someone down: nope [78] sex on first date? lol no [79] broken someone’s heart? haha no [80] had your own heart broken? no [81] been arrested? no [82] cried when someone died? no [83] fallen for a friend: idk? ajsldkf; i like how all of my answers in this section are just ‘no’ lmaoo
DO YOU BELIEVE IN… [84] yourself? i try to :”D [85] miracles? yes [86] love at first sight? i guess? kind of? like to an extent i do, but i think people tend to gradually fall in love with each other more often O: [87] santa claus? no [88] kiss on the first date? idk [89] angels? yes
OTHER… [90] current best friend’s name: the 3.5 :) [91] eye colour: dark brown [92] favourite movie: kimi no na wa (your name)
tagging: @dimsumdamsel @kirencia @panda-p-king @naou @qeachchild @maylovely @kolyalantsov @konohaeleven @katsuki-katsud0n
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