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NR sings on DD season 2

This is going to interesting. Thoughts?

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Daryl Gonna Sing!!! 😱😱😱 AAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

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Mixed opinions on these two, wbu??

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Agree! 👌🏻

Just some thoughts I’d like to share with you all, feel free to share yours.

I’ve recently been racking my brain for any other way Daryl Dixon can get his “Happy Ending” other than Beth Greene coming back. I’ve been trying to play devils advocate with myself to see if there’s any possible conclusion we are missing.

There were only ever a few love interest “options” to begin with going into season 2 Daryl Dixon:

1. A brand new person

2. Car0l

3. Connie

4. Isabelle

*SPOILERS FOR DARYL DIXON SEASON 2 AHEAD*

After the script was leaked we found out that Isabelle will be dying this season so we know it can’t be her.

Daryl chose to leave Connie. He could’ve stayed with her at the Commonwealth and already had his happily ever after. He didn’t he left.

Car0l as a love interest was just utterly destroyed and debunked by the show runner himself.

The only option left is a brand new person. We are already into Season 2 of Daryl Dixon so to introduce a brand new character now for him to fall in love with would feel rushed. Much like him and Leah or him and Isabelle which is why the audience disliked both of them so much as love interests. Also if this was the route they were taking, shouldn’t they have introduced this character in the first season?

We can’t even have the argument that he will never get his “Happy Ending” because it’s quite literally been beaten to death (in a good way) over and over again since the final episode of TWD and is basically the synopsis for his entire show.

I truly feel like the only option is Beth Greene. She’s the only one that makes sense. Anything but her will feel rushed and forced.

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Hey. I know it's been a while. I'm gonna be honest,I forgot about you. After the farm,we were always moving. But something happened.Something good. Finally. We found a prison.Daddy thinks that we can make it into a home. He says we can grow crops in the field, find pigs and chickens, stop running, stop scavenging. Lori's baby is just about due. She'll need a safe place when it comes. The rest of us,we just need a safe place to be. I woke up in my own bed yesterday. My own bed in my own room. But I've been keeping my backpack.Keeping my gun close. I've been afraid to get my hopes up thinking we can actually stay here. The thing is, I've been starting to get afraid that it's easier just to be afraid. But this morning Daddy said something. If you don't have hope,what's the point of living? So I unpacked my bags and I found you. So I'm gonna start writing in you again. And I'm gonna write this down now because you should write down wishes to make them come true. We can live here. We can live here for the rest of our lives.

Dear Lord, these are the things I hope for. I hope the people I care about will be safe and happy.  I hope someday this feels like home. Everybody here says they love me. I see how they look at me. I know it's not my destiny to be an ordinary child. I wish it was. But wishes are not hopes. So I hope I can be the person they need me to be. 

But I also hope I can be the person I want to be.  And I hope Daryl teaches me how to throw a knife.

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BETHYL ON SKYBOUND ACCOUNT; SHOWRUNNER CONFIRMS: NO CARYL; GIMPLE POSTING BETH AND MORE!

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bazinga

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Yeah for sure! And also more proof that, as certain shippers like to claim, Melissa is not being taken advantage of. As an EP, she has the same creative input that Norman does. 👍🏻

Thanks for sharing this!

Norman shuts down romantic Carly once again. He says that if MMB wanted Daryl and Carol, she is an EP and could pitch it. He is talking directly to toxic Carlyers again. Will they listen? Nah!

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Taiga, Romeo, and Gluttony

NOTE: This post contains spoilers for the entirety of the recently released Auction chapter. Read at your own risk.

So the recent chapter was everything to me. It was the shortest, but in my opinion it showed us a lot about Taiga and Romeo and their relationship to one another, and it also helped me refine a specific thought I had about Taiga and his whole deal he has going on.

To put it shortly; I think Taiga has a gluttony curse, and I think it functions as a mirror to that of Romeo's stigma, and is part of why they had a falling out, and why they can't seem to get away from each other.

To put it horrifically, horribly long....

So what do I mean when I say Taiga is cursed? Well, exactly that. I believe he's cursed in a similar way Rui or the MC are; he has an insatiable need to eat anomalies. I believe that this grants certain side effects like the MC and Rui's curse, and that one of them is a sixth sense for anomalies and anomalous circumstances.

I want to explain this before the Romeo part, because it's the basis for my analysis and thoughts on the two of them.

To start from the very beginning; I think Taiga, during one of his missions, was cursed by something like a jikininki as punishment for his 'gluttony' — the rapid rate at which he completed missions in his first year. This left him with his insatiable need to eat anomalies, but more specifically, is the reason he doesn't seem to want to eat them.

While I'm not certain the anomaly is for certain a jikininki, especially because there's certainly other similar folk legends out there, I chose that one specifically because they are noted for their sharp teeth and for not liking the insatiable need to eat corpses.

Now, what does this mean for Taiga? I think he's stuck between being a ghoul and being a jikininki, or whatever anomaly it ends up being, and I think this has given him a sixth sense that messes with his perception of time, self, and memory. But why would it do that?

Jikininki are immortal creatures, and wish to be freed from the torment they're in for the most part. If one was cursed to be part Jikininki, it would make sense for their existence to be similarly excruciating, with a difference being a lack of full immortality.

Remember the Mortkranken chapter, with the failed mermaid flesh? How their bodies continued even as their minds didn't? Taiga has multiple lines detailing how his 'body' remembers, even if his mind doesn't. Yuri and Jiro also explain that part of the side effects of the reaction are rapid mental deterioration. If Taiga had gone through a similar deterioration, it would explain his seemingly sporadic memory loss (not total blackouts like Jiro, nor specific category based amnesia either, just like. Random shit) and the fact that he doesn't have a concrete sense of identity (showcased through his constantly shifting first-person pronoun choice in Japanese). His cells of his body are reverting to their pre-aged self, and his mind is attempting to do that too, but it's imperfect and messy.

The key to the idea of the sixth sense comes from the fact that he's specifically cursed for anomalous gluttony. I think that he can sense anomalous material or anomalies themselves, and as demonstrated from Ed, this includes some sort of future sense. While we don't know the full specifics of what a sixth sense grants, we can see him utilise it in multiple different places. It's also, in my opinion, why he was sent on the Prologue mission.

Some examples of his supposed sixth sense are how he intuitively understood the anomalous dealer's entire thing, the scenes where he knows the Like Dove will appear before it does, when he senses Romeo approaching (Romeo is carrying an anomaly: his artifact), how he understands the auction is an anomaly, when he gets the mask under unknown circumstances, when he directly knows there's no anomalies... the list honestly could go on forever.

There's one other fact that I personally believe sealed this theory for me; his association with Haku.

In the recent chapter, when the MC is thinking about who to talk to about curses, Taiga instantly knows who we're thinking of, and rejects it on the basis that '[He] can't get rid of curses unless the anomaly that did the deed's right in front of him.' and that he's a 'Simp for the rules anyway.'

... Which is interesting, since it seems like Taiga has tried to ask him about this before. But if you think of this as Haku's stigma, and imagine Taiga trying to get his curse cleansed before, it makes sense! It would also be a good reason to put Haku and Taiga together in the prologue; Taiga can track the anomaly with his sense, and Haku can cleanse whatever curse it gives so long as Taiga manages to capture it or subdue it for long enough.

(Which, side note, is so tragic for the MC...)

Okay, now that the basis of 'Taiga is cursed' is out of the way, how on earth does this relate to Romeo?

Simple. I think Taiga's curse directly mirror's Romeo's stigma, and it's what caused their rift.

Romeo's stigma, as we learn in the new chapter as well, is dependent on his attachment to the items he throws. This, thematically, works with Romeo, who is known to be greedy. Everything he does is motivated by a profit of some kind, whether that profit is social or monetary or whatever. He wants special privileges so he does special missions. He wants money so he raises fees and coerces people to gamble. He wants popularity so he dresses nicely and pampers himself. It doesn't always mean he is money grubbing and stingy (because we see he's willing to spend lavishly on grooming and decor!) but it means that he's attached to what he has. His stigma requires him to give up that attachment. It is a punishment, a sacrifice, as a result of the pact. Similar to how Luca lost his brother (and gained a protective stigma), Romeo has to lose what he feels is worth something in order to fully utilise his ability. Call it a sort of pride.

I think, on the other hand, Taiga's curse is one of envy. He has a desire to eat anomalies, yes, but the desire becomes stronger the more attached someone else is to the anomaly. He doesn't need any interest in it, really. If someone else likes it he will need to eat it.

Taiga covets Haru's Peekaboo to eat instead of the wild one that we also know is in Jabberwock. He's composed about the Like Dove (barely, but he restrains himself!) until Romeo wants it. He steals the plants from Rui's BAR, not the ones in the garden outside (both are Rui's, but his bar is arguably the more loved thing of his since it was fully his choice). He covets Mortkranken's anomalies, and becomes mildly obsessed with the immortal one as soon as it becomes a major research subject. He's also completely fine holding and handling the mask, presumably for a long time, up until Romeo sees it as valuable and worthy.

Now, this doesn't necessarily make them instantly incompatible. But when you take one of Romeo's core traits being 'Greed towards anomalies' (He wants to collect them and frequently complains that other houses are 'stealing' them from under him; he sells them; he gets missions from Hyde to get them; etc), it becomes evidently clear that Taiga's curse is directly oppositional to it.

I think it's pretty obvious by now that Taiga and Romeo have a pretty turbulent relationship now, but were extremely close in the past. Multiple characters state that it would be nice to see them on good terms again, and it's certainly worth mentioning that Romeo is one of the few people Taiga consistently remembers. They both know each other exceptionally well, too. Taiga knows how to get under Romeo's skin and Romeo knows Taiga's habits.

Going back to the idea of this curse causing their rift, if Romeo was constantly on the verge of an important capture, or even if there was just one mission that was important, and Taiga ruined it by eating the anomaly, I doubt Romeo would easily forgive and forget. I think it could very easily cause a massive rift that just kept growing with each new snack Taiga picked up.

I think a moment that gets its nuance overlooked a lot is the scene just before Taiga eats the dove. The Japanese line emphasises that Taiga is referring to HIS heart, that Romeo could shoot through HIS heart, not just a general appraisal of sharpshooting. He even points directly to his heart as he says this, and it makes Romeo hesitate. They're BOTH in pain in this scene. They're both conflicted; this is their ex-partner (which I don't mean in the romantic sense, just in the general sense) who they were very, very close with, and who is now literally at arms length with a loaded gun. Romeo could just shoot him. Romeo could put an end to all of this supposed pain. And Taiga might even let him. And wouldn't that be karma for all he's done? But he can't. He hesitates.

And you know what appears after that? The dove.

This dove that symbolises both general desire (flies over peoples' heads when they're thought about) and Romeo's desire. His desire to escape probation. His desire to make money. His desire to capture, not kill. His desire to reconcile instead of fight. His desire to shoot.

And Taiga kills it. Eats it.

I think this is the most tragic scene between the two of them. This is the crux of it; they both want to reconcile. They want to be friends, to be close, to stop the war raging between the two of them that has done nothing but hurt them both AND hurt the wellbeing of Sinostra, but they can't, because Romeo will ALWAYS desire, and Taiga will ALWAYS take that from him.

It's a cycle they can't escape. The auction chapter shows it too. Taiga is almost disappointed at Romeo's greed. He seems jaded by it, and seems proud and happy when Romeo gives it up for once. Romeo is happy too; MC goes out of her way to say that Taiga handing him the mask makes him look more peaceful than he ever has before. It is quite literally a perfect ending for the two of them and a perfect way to reconcile.

And then Taiga eats it! Again! But I think the most horrifying part of it is that he tries to warn Romeo.

The comic doesn't translate or even transcribe it, so it's so, so easy to miss, especially if you don't speak Japanese, but Taiga grunts out the words 'I', 'Eat', and 'Next' as he approaches Romeo and the mask, and it's the direct reason why Romeo is able to realise that Taiga is about to eat it before it actually happens. He basically just grunts out 'I'm gonna eat that next' as he's fighting against it! But inevitably, neither of them can stop it. The cycle continues.

As long as Romeo is greedy, and as long as Taiga is gluttonous, they will never be able to fully reconcile, no matter how much they both want it. Both of them have to change, but I want to point out that at this moment Romeo is the bigger active obstacle between the two of them. Romeo can't let things go, he holds onto everything and lets it build until it explodes in one way or another. Tiris, his stigma, is symbolic in that sense, that he has to learn to let things go, because if he lets it build too much it will explode spectacularly.

(All of the ghouls have this sort of symbolism with their stigma, so it's not just a Romeo thing, but it's definitely important to his character.)

But Romeo can't get over it yet. He can't get over his greed, he can't let go of things he can't achieve (like getting Kaito's necklace), he can't get over past betrayals (Taiga, what happened with his family, etc)... He's too stuck and stubborn, and his refusal to budge has therefore lead to Taiga's refusal to push. Taiga has stopped caring about getting on good terms because he knows it won't turn out well. He's given up and become cynical, which in turn means that IF Romeo were to change, Taiga... still probably wouldn't. They're cyclical again. Always, always missing each other. So close and yet so far.

I hope the MC can be the catalyst for this cycle to end. Or Ritsu, who is a good equalizer to the two of them. But until she learns to see her own worth in the Academy, and until Ritsu accepts that sometimes he's wrong / he doesn't always know the most out of everyone in the room, I'm afraid Romeo and Taiga will remain stuck in this loop forever...

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Isabel Death

Spoilers again if you don't wanna know then I respect that. I personally looked for this scene because I really wanted to know. After seeing that kiss I wanted to know if they're was a possibility that she would not die. Spoilers below.

So as we have seen Daryl is handcuffed and put in that cell. Losing does this to him. Daryl put down Sylvie's walker. I have spoke a little on this. At this ceremony thing Losing has Sylvie's walker and tries to get it to hurt Laurent. Daryl and Isabel are there and Daryl shots Sylvie with an arrow. Isabel gets captured too and Laurent gets out with Fallou. There is the scene I spoke about already with Isabel and Daryl talking and they touch hands.

Losing then take Isabel and Daryl yells her name.

Losing takes Isabel and they are talking and she hits him. He stabs her in the gut and she falls to the floor. Him and his crew run off. Isabel is knocked out on the floor bleeding. She wakes up and walks outside leaving a trail of blood.

Meanwhile and a little before this.

Carol gets into the nest with Cordon. They're scary fast running variant walkers in the nest that follow Carol. Genet has this stuff that turns people into fast creepy variant walkers.

Isabel makes it out side. She walking slow holding her belly bleeding not doing great.

A variant walker runs up to her and Carol appears killing it.

Carol helps Isabel lay down on some bags or something thats stacked up. They talk briefly.

In the preview/trailers we see that guy run into Daryl's cell and they're is the exchange where Daryl puts his arm up to show the chain. A variant walker was chasing him.

Daryl kills the walkers which we see in the scene.

Carol is at the end of the hallway and we get the terminus reunion. They go outside.

Daryl runs to her side. He's kind of kneeling down. He tried to stop the bleeding with some sort of fabric. They're talking and he is rubbing her head/hair.

Shes talking and looks like she's done for at this point. She stops talking and dies. Daryl drops his head. He's sad. I never see any tears or crying. I mean he's upset but like I said not like we have seen him before. Carol puts her hand on his back/shoulder.

Next scene Carol and Daryl are running away from the nest.

I haven't seen much more after this and I don't know if they buried her. She was dead. Imo she's not coming back from that. I needed to know that for sure.

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This is literally insane. The main show is over and she is basically promoting TWD and it has ten years since she has been on the show. 🤞🤞🤞

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When Daryl and Beth fight he says "you lost two boyfriends and couldn't even shed a tear". Could his reaction to is@belle be in reference to that?

Wow, you know nonny I literally have not even though of this. I haven't seen anyone reference it either, if someone has I apologize. You're exactly right. I need someone else to watch this scene to give their opinion but I just re-watched it. Mind you that site is crap and the scene is really dark as in dark outside and hard to see but spoilers after this.

Daryl isn't crying. Isabel is like talking about something if I had to guess it's Referenceing Carol because she's there too. Like maybe fate or hope or some bs because you know thats their theme for this whole spin off. I have decided I am going to make A post today and give details. Anyways he doesn't cry, he's sad. He tries to stop her bleeding, he hangs his head but it's not a full on sob like someone killed his soul mate. Isabel actually dies stops breathing, talking whatever. Daryl isn't not holding her, she's laying on something. Carol puts her hand on Daryl's back to comfort him and literally the next second Daryl and Carol are show walking fast away from the nest. Like maybe he's upset obviously but it's not Coda I will tell you that right now!

This is a huge parallel about Beth having two boyfriends and not shedding a tear. Now Daryl's reaction is more sad than Beth's to Zach but soo similar.

We also got a kiss between Beth and Zach before he died and now we have a kiss between Isabel and Daryl!!

I wish I spoke French and knew the dialog. This is great nonny. I need others to add their thoughts but I'm not sure how many people have watched. I'll warn you the site is horrible and pop ups are insane.

This made my day!

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Bethyl Asks 105 - Lots of Beth Parallels in DDS2 + Emily's Love at First Sight Post

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DDS2 Ep 6 Au Revoir Les Enfants - Symbolism Analysis