#so . is ai The Mother or is aqua/gorou The Mother

[twentyfivemiceinatrenchcoat]

oshi no ko ep 4 spoilers under the cut!!

ohhhhh my fucking god this scene this scene this fucking scene this will never leave my brain it’ll rot there until every star in the sky has faded what the FUCK were they thinking (affectionate)

HE’S :((((((( A BABY. HE’S JUST A BABY. he acts so cold and detached but he loves his friends, he loves his sister, he has trouble thinking of happy moments at first but then it all just comes flowing into him!!! and it breaks my heart because i didn’t even know he could smile like this but of course he can because he’s a kid. he’s not gorou anymore. he’s his own person and that person is a high school boy who enjoys his new life even though he thinks he’s not allowed to. even though his past self literally manifests as a stern voice over his shoulder telling him he’s not allowed to.

GODDDDDDD . god. gorou is literally a fucking GHOST telling aqua not to be happy, never to be happy, just keep obsessing over ai and hating yourself for not being able to save her in the same way gorou must’ve hated himself for not being able to save sarina. just keep living for revenge and nothing else. don’t enjoy yourself. don’t enjoy yourself. don’t enjoy yourself. the relationship between these two makes me so ill because they’re literally the same person but also not. it’s like gorou’s bitter soul was born into a body not made to hold it. aqua is his own person but he’s also haunted by a guilt and an obsession that isn’t his own. he’s haunted by the death of his mother but more than anything he’s haunted by himself. ai would have wanted him to be happy. gorou doesn’t. gorou wants them both miserable and guilty.

and don’t even get me STARTED on akane??????????????????? mimicking ai to make aqua feel better??????????????????????????????? it’s all so twisted and it’ll all just make his obsession grow stronger and stronger. aqua is chasing a ghost. ai is dead and gorou is dead and sarina is dead. he isn’t. but if he doesn’t let himself be happy, if he doesn’t let himself move on, then he might as well be.

[aihoshiino]

putting aside whatever other problems there are or aren't with the OnK ending, I think the one thing that really drives me up the wall is that Aqua never really gets a chance to reconcile or meaningfully make peace with his relationship with Ai... not even necessarily in the sense of like, 'this character tragically died before resolving this issue' way but more like, with the hindsight of how much the Movie Arc was wasting time and panel space, it's frustrating that an arc that SHOULD have been about Aqua and Ruby working through that kind of had four chapters of Ruby, exclusively, making a breakthrough and then never touched on it as an idea again.

Honestly, I don't think you'd need to change much! Even just having Aqua call her 'Mom' or at least properly embracing her as his mother in spirit would have done it, especially since 163 emphasizes Aqua's life being his own, not just the dregs left behind by Gorou's reincarnation. He does refer to her as 'my/our mother' at certain points, but he also calls Kamiki 'my/our father' in contexts that are very clinical and not necessarily positive. So... idk!

Maybe him wanting to call Miyako 'Mom' was supposed to hit on that same sort of beat and I can understand if Aqua simply felt more bonded with and connected to Miyako as his mom since she actually raised him, but if the conclusion of that relationship is just that Aqua never really felt like Ai was his mom, I think that's excessively cruel to Ai and just kind of a letdown. But the way the story kind of dropped the ball on Aqua's posthumous relationship with her was kind of a letdown in general lol, so...

[sereneisstillhere]

Daughter of Ai and Gorou...!? [Fem!Reader x Oshi no Ko]

A/N : Oh my God I'm so sorry if my principle is bothersome to someone out there😭🙏🏻 I just have the same views like J. K. Rowling regarding LGBTQ+, but let's not talk about that rn. I made the whole story and somehow Tumblr decided to do shts and it's gone from my draft😭💢 FU Tumblr- anyways, please interpret the story to your liking, this is rewrite since the shts Tumblr decided to do, and I hope you enjoy it!!🫶🏻

Request by : @the-letter-horror-lover (sorry if I make you uncomfortable🙏🏻🧸)

Warning!! : angst, major character death (Ai, Aqua, Gorou & Reader [before reincarnation]), slight depression (Akane part), AU where Ai and Hikaru are married but divorced after 4 months only, fluff, please interpret the story as you like it, spoilers for manga tho it's ended, if I miss anything just reblog and tag. Thanks🫶🏻🍫

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You and Gorou were left behind by your mother for some stupid guy. Gorou takes great care of you and never talk about your mother ever since that. What you know is that they're divorced when you're 6.

The life Gorou gives you isn't that luxury, but it's still comfortable and you're not starving. That's what matters. Your study and academics are also great, thanks to Gorou's dedication on teaching you.

But, even the purest swan will meet its doom.

When you're 14, your friends asked you to go on hiking, so you agree. At first, everything seemed alright and goes just fine. Until one of your friends was stung by a wasp and accidentally push you over the cliff. As ridiculous as it sounds, it's actually very fatal.

Not only you who fell, but your friend who got stung by the wasp also fell. The two of you suffer lethal injuries, but your friend survives. It's you, however...

...blood spills everywhere, you couldn't move a muscle, your mind's going haywire, your heart beats faster before it slows down...

...and before you know it, you're gone.

This incident caused a deep pain to Gorou. Not that he lost his wife to another guy, he also lost his only daughter to the death. It left him devastated, depressed, and he even thinks of suicide.

But he remembers that you won't like it. You won't like your father kill himself for blaming everything to him, right? He knows it, so he canceled the plan.

Well, he's going to die anyway, pushed by Ai's deranged fan off the cliff and reincarnated as Ai's son.

It's not that complex, just a world full of lies and deception, and the former is known as the weapon in this entertainment industry...

Ai and you had the wholesome mother and daughter relationship.

Not only that, but if Ai's being honest which she clearly doesn't, you are her favorite out of Ruby and Aqua. But no, she had to be fair with her children, so she keeps it to herself.

When you and Ai are practicing to dance, you're a very talented girl and she immediately knows it.

Will teach you and Ruby how to be an idol at the age 3.

When Aqua is filming the movie he and Ai starred, she will bring you no matter what. With an excuse that you're her niece.

Why does she reasons like that?

Your hair is purple, like hers. Not to mention your eyes are literally Hikaru's. So yep, you're her niece in the public's eyes.

When you feel down or sad, just remember her. She will always catch you if you fall. <3

Even after her death, her influence over you is still prominent.

The way you behave and speak is her exact copy, except that you're the nicest and purest kid in the world, unlike Ai who views herself as sneaky and dirty.

When you witnessed Ai's death in front of your eyes, your whole body couldn't move, and just like Aqua, you got a severe PTSD.

But fret not, when you're asleep, Ai will always come to you, saying how sorry she is to leave you, and how sorry she is to never got the chance to tell you who's your father.

Ai will always love her children, but when it comes to you... she will never leave your side.

"[Y/N]... you're my sunshine, my world. I love you..."

Oh and btw, why is your name the same with your previous life's? Because the moment Ai knew that Gorou had a daughter who died at the age of 14, she immediately vowed to the stars that she'll name her daughter the same as her, [Y/N].

When Aqua found out that you're his daughter in the previous life, he'll go to super duper siscon mode.

He knew you so well after all. Your mannerism, your behavior, your tone, and your way of thinking. He knows it all.

Even if you don't realize that he's Gorou, he'll still control your life like how he was when he's your father.

The moment he found out that Hikaru is your father and that he takes interest in you, Aqua won't ever leave your side. Like, ever.

Hikaru got his eyes on you due to your beauty, talent, and definitely charisma that even Ai couldn't rival.

Had Ai and Hikaru are together, Aqua will never let Hikaru get close to you, even when he's just a father who's curious about his daughter.

He'll be like 'excuse me man, but I'm her father in the previous life and her soul is my daughter so don't even think that you can be her father' kind of person whenever he saw Hikaru.

And he'll definitely snatch your phone the moment you set your eyes on someone.

His daughter- I mean sister, is about to date?!! No, no. As a good father, he should be the one who pick your boyfriend. You never knew if that guy is good or bad!

When he died, people believed that Hikaru killed him, but you don't. You knew that Aqua would risk everything just to ensure you and Ruby alive. Even if that means he'll stab himself and push Hikaru to the ocean as a disguise of Hikaru killing him, so be it.

No need to cry now, my little dove. He will always watch over the two of you. This is his choice, and even he's starting to regret to never see you again, at least... he won't lose you for the second time.

"[Y/N], you're always been my guiding light. I never thought I'll see you again, but now you're here as my sister. No matter what, I'll always be your father, got it?"

Ruby Hoshino... now, I won't say that she's not jealous of you.

She envied how fluid and graceful your movements are, how talented you are, and that you got the natural charm.

But she welcomes it as a part of being human.

Jealousy, envy, insecurity... she feels it.

Ruby is not the person to be that envious and act on her feelings alone.

She knows that you'll never flex your abilities in front of her, not when all you do is helping her to be an idol like her dream.

You're not a threat to Ruby, she views you as someone she relies on, she could believe, and she had no mind when you outshine her.

She thinks you deserve it, but the feeling of envy is still there.

Regardless, she won't ever and I mean it, ever try to bring you down.

Ruby imagines how kind you are and how sweet you are to everyone, especially to her.

She often laughs and giggles whenever the two of you around. She loves you just like how you adore her.

When she found out that you and Aqua were daughter and father in the previous life... all I could imagine is her face like this ':O'.

Will definitely call you "Aqua's baby girl" and "Sweetheart" just to tease you.

When Aqua dies, she comforts you despite her own sadness.

Will help you out of your depression as she knows that you're the most affected (and not dramatic like Kana is when she's no one to Aqua- oops🫢)

When she reaches the stardom with you and Mem-CHO at Tokyo Dome, she'll always be by your side, knowing that you and her are the only ones left on the Hoshino legacy.

"Aqua's baby girl~...- ow, ow, alright, alright! [Y/N], I'm so lucky to be your sister. We're in everything together, right?"

You met her when Aqua brings you and Ruby to a dinner with his friends.

Immediately likes you due to your kind nature and soft spoken manner.

Akane feels comfortable around you, and she immediately forgets Aqua as she knows how protective you are to him. She'll do anything for you. <3

When she finally connect the dots that you, Ruby, and Aqua are Ai's children, she'll be more affectionate and kind to you, being mature and always try to console you from your PTSD.

You're just like Ai... except that you're not manipulative and good at deception like your late mother. Or so Akane thought.

But you've proven her that your angel heart and doll face can be a very weapon to manipulate those around you.

When she's bullied by netizen, you always ask her conditions, often offering poor Akane advice and shoulder to lean on.

Even as she's about to jump from the bridge, she keeps getting reminded of you. How you'll react when she died...

...she almost stop, but then she imagines your disgust face when you fully understand what she did to Yuki...

Aqua managed to save her just in time, and you waste no time to visit Akane right away. Ruby stayed at home to take care of Miyako's unfinished work.

The moment Yuki is about to slap Akane on the face, you slap her first in a very harsh way.

The anger in your eyes is palpable as you yell at the black-haired girl, "Are you out of your mind?! Akane almost commit suicide, and the first thing you do is slapping her?!!"

It took Aqua and Akane herself to calm you down from beating Yuki's arse off.

Since then, you and her are close, often hand to hand as she fears that you maybe lost due to your childish nature around her.

But she believes that you're old enough to not lost on a crowd, so she sometimes let you wander, but not too far. She's worried for you.

When Aqua died, she's so worry about you. She hadn't hear about you for days, only cryptic answers from Miyako and that is.

But you hug her and cry on her shoulder after persuaded to come out of your room.

She watches as you, Ruby, and Mem-CHO reached your stardom at Tokyo Dome with proud eyes and happy smile.

"I knew that you could face everything, [Y/N]. You're stronger than anyone I've ever met."

Oh... and this redhair...

You don't like her very much as she used to insult Ai in front of you.

When Ruby is asking her to be an idol with her and you, the stars in your eyes are black. Both of them.

So you're officially the first Hoshino sibling to shown dark star eyes! <3

She sees you as someone who'll take all attention away from her, but come to realize that you deserve it more than her in a harsh way.

Kana will always act a bit too close to Aqua, and it irked you a lot.

Got into fights with you is nothing new to Kana.

When she's confident in her acting skills, the way you can do it better, charming, and even attractive than her and Akane combined makes her question herself even more.

Kana also thinks that you're being overprotective to Aqua, shown when you always hold his arm whenever Kana is near, or the two of you always hold hands.

She's jealous that you and Aqua had a better relationship than she'll ever be.

But the moment Kana realized that you're Ai's daughter, she tries her best not to speak so badly about Ai, or at least not talking about her.

When Aqua died, you slap her for slapping Aqua's dead body. Girl, who'd slap a corpse of someone?😭

The two of you mend things again after a few weeks since his death.

She watches as you, Ruby, and Mem-CHO reached your stardom by performing in Tokyo Dome. She knew it's Ai's dream, and she finally learns to support you wholeheartedly.

"You're annoying, Hoshino. But even so, I'll always support you, as your senior, of course."

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[oshinohoshi]

Oshi no Ko Chapter 162 thoughts

Putting aside my issues with the story and characterization, I like this chapter. It makes me feel things which is a strong suit of Oshi no Ko.

Sorrow, horror, and sweetness... it has a little of everything.

As an avid Ai stan, the parts with Ai hit me right where it hurts

Ai's smile below is everything. She loved those kids so much

I'm reminded of the bottom right art. Ai never did get to see their red backpacks but at least the little Hoshino family made happy memories together

Aqua looking after his sister is so sweet. It would hit harder if we had more of the twins interacting past vol 1 but it's still nice

I'm not sure how I feel about Aqua deciding he was reincarnated to protect Ruby. I can't quite put my finger on what's bothering me. Perhaps it's that he's once again making his life's worth revolve around someone else

Or that this disregards one of my favorite lines in the manga: "[God] brought two people who never had a mother in a real sense and a mother who gave birth to soulless children together"

There is a crucial element missing to Aqua's apparent life's purpose and her name is Ai

@aihoshiino's post explains this better than I ever could (thanks @insertusername99 for pointing this out to me)

LMAO I just read Claire's thoughts on the chapter after typing this and she brought this up too. Bc it's so true!

The art is so good. Mengo is amazing

HIKARU

He gets his own damn section because he's just so... AUGH

I'm baffled as to how killing Ruby would bring him closer to Ai

How does "the weight of his sin" help him manifest Ai's presence? Maybe his guilt over his involvement in Ai's death brings her into sharp relief through suffering and embracing his dark side amplifies that? I'm grasping at straws here

I still think his reaction to the DVD was genuine but if so, it feels like he should have had a change of heart

After learning Ai wanted to love him, why would he turn around and try to off their daughter?

Of course his logic is twisted, but it should work with what we know about him!

If you have thoughts, please share

Anyway, I want to compare Aqua's memory of Ai (left) to Hikaru's vision of her (right)

She looks ethereal in both. A fragile being. Ai looks over her shoulder smiling gently in Aqua's mind. She might turn away at any second but she's not gone yet. However, she has her back to Hikaru, beyond his grasp

In both panels Ai is not dressed as an idol. Those who love her remember her as she was when she wasn't on stage (or uhh that's what I want to say but I don't know what to make of Hikaru's view of her anymore)

Moving on...

Shadow Gorou. Until now he's been a manifestation of Aqua's guilt and self-hatred yet now he's dragging Hikaru to the bottom of the sea. Sure, I guess?

I'm probably wildly off the mark here, but it almost shows how harmful Aqua's attempt to kill Hikaru is. Shadow Gorou is scary

And despite Aqua's white stars, he looks horrified and in pain choking his dad. It doesn't look like a triumphant finishing blow

Given the giant moon behind Crow Girl, I guess we should stop calling her that as it seems that Tsukuyomi is not a stage name. But she'll always be Crow Girl to me

Next chapter (3 week break!!): Miyako is not having any of this dying to save Ruby bullshit. She will roll up on a motorcycle and pluck Aqua out of the sea using Ichigo's fishing pole. I have been predicting the fishing pole being a major player in the Hikaru/Aqua conflict for dozens of chapters and I know I cannot be wrong.

[thoughtspresso]

Aqua plans to die.

And his death will be necessary to take Kamiki down.

While the full details of Aqua’s revenge plan isn’t entirely clear to all of us yet, his intention to place himself in danger as he tries to take Kamiki down is a very clear, and very crucial part of the plot that he anticipates.

Before we can dive into how Aqua is going to achieve his revenge, we need to back up a little bit and understand who he is as a person, how he makes decisions, and what he personally wants.

What is Aqua’s Goal?

From a top-level view, Aqua has a singular emotional goal:

Aqua wishes to take responsibility for the deaths of his mothers.

Aqua/Gorou absolutely believes that after two lives of the same thing, that he was the common denominator. He was the fault his mothers both died, because he was useless and helpless. Had he never been conceived, and more crucially, if his mothers did not have to lie about his existence, they would have both stayed alive. If Gorou’s mom didn’t have to conceal the pregnancy from her parents, or did not have one at all, she would have lived a long life. He believes that perhaps his second chance at life was to save Ai, but he was paralyzed and helpless during her murder. He blames himself for Ai’s death too.

This is a driving force in Aqua’s character, and informs all of his decision making, even to the detriment of his own plans most times. It leads us to his supplementary goal:

Aqua wants to keep the people he loves safe.

Whether it was shielding Ruby from entertainment or making sure she’s in a safe agency with good group members, or Akane not going too far in enacting his revenge plot for him, or Kana from steering clear of a career-ending love scandal, Aqua’s key traumas has led him to feel compelled to take action and do whatever it takes to save people if he had the power to do so.

Here is a breakdown of Aqua’s plans, and some key questions we have to ask about each one.

1. Why make a movie called The 15-Year Lie? And what is “Ai’s true wish”?

I have reason to believe that Ai’s DVD for Aqua would have either been a message about wishing to be loved truly and be hated with full honesty for the person she really was, that she wanted her actual self to be revealed to people. In line with that, I think Aqua’s DVD included Gotanda’s original documentary for the B-Komachi dome event. Which is why Gotanda tried to defend Aqua's decision to reveal her secret in chapter 112, and why in chapter 108 Gotanda says about the script that “this is finally my time to fulfill that promise.”

2. What does he mean by “using Arima Kana”?

There were theories circulating that the person who texted Frill Shiranui could have been Aqua, trying to get her to encourage Ruby to play the role of Ai in the film. However, that couldn’t be any farther from the truth. As we know, Aqua was saying that Gotanda should “grow up” and understand that the most important thing for a movie is to succeed commercially first before we talk about artistic value. 

If Aqua had full control over the situation, he would have just straight up casted Akane. After all, that was what he initially proposed, and even contacted her for it despite saying he’ll never have anything to do with her again. What he needed, more than anything, was for the film to succeed commercially. And with the headlining actress no longer (a) the most famous celebrity of their generation, or (b) the heralded genius of their generation, Aqua has no other options.

Except: Arima Kana.

I think the aspect of him using her or manipulating her is mainly to encourage her publicity activities. He’ll be encouraging her to do well in her work to garner more star power for the movie to really be a success, and for her to help his sister be the perfect lead for the show. He’s also going to bank on the idea that Kana will do things for him because she has a crush on him, which he only realized in Chapter 102 after Mem-cho points it out, that he can pursuade Kana to get out of the way of his revenge plot if necessary to keep her safe or place her in the spotlight to attract people’s attention for the movie.

While unlikely, he might even encourage her to stay on a little longer until Ruby gets to the Dome performance.

Or, and maybe this is my shipping delulu talking, but it can also be that he’ll try to just be around her frequently to garner media attention about their relationship. In this way, keeping her close without actually dating her could serve a dual purpose: get people talking about them and the movie, but also make sure that Kana stays safe and nobody makes a rumor of pairing her up with anybody else.

Lastly, also not super likely but another option could be to convince her to headline the show, and play Ai in Ruby’s stead.

3. Why does Kaburagi say that the film is bordering on illegal?

This is a truly crucial piece to unveiling Aqua’s plot. We know Kaburagi likes producing shows that include good-looking young people, and that seems to be his main strategy for raking in young audiences and cashing out.

So why would he have hesitated, even for a second, on a plan to cast the top talent of this young generation, on the biggest news Japan has been talking about, handed to him by a first-hand source--the son of Ai himself?

On all accounts, this would have been the perfect formula for a smash success. So why would Kaburagi say things like, “do you have enough evidence”, when everybody already knew about the University student stalker that murdered her? What was so controversial?

Unless, when they said Aqua will play the culprit, they didn’t mean the Ryosuke.

They meant he was playing Hikaru Kamiki.

Here’s what we know about the film, and what I think Aqua is trying to do:

1. Portray Kamiki in the worst possible way and destroy his reputation.

The 15-Year Lie will be a biopic about Ai’s life from when she was starting out as an idol.  Ai will be portrayed as a poor girl abandoned by her parents, searching for the true meaning of love. We know that this framing will be part of Ai’s characterization because of the scenes where Ruby struggled the most:

In the search for love, they will show her falling for a young man and talented actor at Theatre Lalalai--that being Hikaru Kamiki. Once he gets Ai pregnant, he abandons her, and she runs off to the countryside to hide from the press. When Ai asked him to come visit her, Kamiki, in wanting to protect his career, attempted to send out a stalker. A few years later, seeing his kids wotagei on social media, he manages to find them again and kill Ai.

It is a complete and utter character assasination of Hikaru Kamiki, and while revealing Ai as a flawed person, draws for the sympathy of the viewers to love Ai for who she truly is. Which is exactly why Gotanda keeps insisting for Ruby to play the role, even when Aqua and Kaburagi have sensible recommendations for Akane and Frill.

At that moment, when Ai dies, Aqua will reveal his face, and openly declare that it was his father who orchestrated it all. Then he might even portray his father murdering Ryosuke himself, instead of the suicide that was reported in the media.

2. Aqua will use himself to bait his father out, and force Kamiki’s hand to kill Aqua.

The main reason why Aqua finds it necessary for the film to be a commercial success is because he needs the general public to be one hundred percent in agreement that Hikaru Kamiki is an evil man that deserves to be jailed. (Whether or not he reveals his name in the film, which he could but doesn’t need to.) This public lynching is his first control.

But here’s the thing: Kamiki didn’t directly murder Himekawa Airi and Hoshino Ai himself. At this point in time, Aqua is not aware of Katayose Yura’s murder either. And there is no evidence that connects Uehara Seijirou and Ryosuke’s suicides as murders by Kamiki’s hands.

And on top of all that, when these things happened, Kamiki was fully a minor.

Akane’s fears and interpretation was that Aqua would murder his own father because it’s the only form of revenge he could enact himself. 

But she’s wrong, there’s one more thing Aqua could do: make Kamiki commit murder again. If he kills Aqua, there will now be a murder that the public agrees without a doubt was done by Kamiki himself.

He can go to jail once and for all, or he can also get stabbed by an angry fan--Aqua doesn’t care. All he cares about is that it’s a sure win, and it’s over forever. He launches his sister’s career into the spotlight, he keeps everybody safe, and he atones for the death of his mothers with his own life.

In summary: Aqua plans to get killed by his father, so that an actual murder has occurred for which he could be jailed or publicly ostracized or even killed.

And here’s why I think Aqua will fail:

Aqua’s assumptions about his father are incorrect.

He believes that Kamiki’s reason for killing Ai was because her pregnancy would ruin his reputation and career as a rising actor. That’s why Aqua tries to hit him there. And he believes defaming him might provoke him to get killed.

But I don’t think Kamiki cared about his reputation at all anymore. He left his career as an actor behind after Kindaichi kicked him out of Lalalai, and went on to graduate from Faculty of Science. He never went back in front of the spotlight, instead opening a talent agency around the exact time he believed his kids might be joining the industry.

I have reason to believe that Kamiki thinks murdering Airi and Ai was to protect his children or some other great act of justice against his rapist(s). And that even killing Katayose Yura was done because he didn’t want a liar like her to take the spotlight that was supposedly for his daughter Ruby.

I don’t think Kamiki will harm Aqua.

But I do think he will come forward and expose himself and his twisted justification, and he might even openly give interviews to the media.

Instead, I do believe Kamiki might pay attention to Kana’s honest acting--something he’s never seen before in a person, and try to get close to her somehow. And if Kamiki’s name is not revealed, and if the theories are true that Frill works for Kamiki’s agency, he might recruit Kana to join him.

All this is to say, get Kana out of this manga. Somebody, please save her.

[yuseirra]

!!!!!! !!! I CAME TO A REALIZATION!!

DIDN'T THE SONG IDOL HAVE THE LYRIC THAT GOES "一番星の生まれ変わり"? this translates to "a reincarnation of the first star", right? and this is Ai.

"The first star" is the star that shines at the eastern sky at dawn. It usually refers to venus, it also refers to a rising star(job)

I kept mentioning that the stars in this series may be gods themselves, right? (please read my other theory posts if you're curious why I keep making that statement)

Ame-no-Uzume is the goddess of entertainment, AND DAWN.

AI REALLY IS THE REINCARNATION OF AME-NO-UZUME-NO-MIKOTO. IT WAS ALWAYS THERE IN THE SONG. This also explains how Aqua was reacting to her name in a rather weird way in ch 74.

He was like that because she has to do with his mother.

I think his mission that was assigned from the gods have to do with her. I already said this in another theory post, but his mission assigned from the gods = fulfilling Ai's wish,

that's why I believe he says he has only one mission in 118.

He sure does mention a lot about wanting to fulfill Ai's wish, right?

His mission assigned by the gods, his role that was assigned to him as he was reincarnated as Ai's child is this. It's the same thing.

His mission is fulfilling what Ai's wanted.

He's reborn as her child because he's the soul that could help make her wishes come true, he had the right spirit as Gorou so I believe that's why Tsukuyomi hand-picked him and gave him the chance of having another life.

That's the same for BOTH Ruby and him, but Ruby's goal is becoming an idol that surpasses Ai while his is about... yeah, what Ai's requested in the video that she's left him. I think his mission is about helping his dad return to normal..

If Ai IS a god, Ame-no-Uzume, that'd make Kamiki her husband, Sarutahiko Ōkami. I think the gods(Tsukuyomi in this case)either want him gone since they believe he's gone corrupted- out of line- after her death or that they want him to be brought back onto the right path(what Ai wants). This is why Aqua considered saving him but decides to kill him in the end. And if Kamiki IS Sarutahiko.. he DOES have to do with the path of people. He's the god of guidance who's originally supposed to "lead people to the right path". So he CAN alter people's futures. Aqua does have his reasons for considering him as a potential threat in this case if he believes he's beyond hope. He COULD ruin Ruby's future just by existing if he's not functioning properly;

I think that's what's been going on and how the gods tie into this story.

[midnightyy1]

Oshi no Ko my version✩ (rewriting series)

Remaking Oshi no Ko cuz wtf that ending??? And the whole plot feels too off side for me

.・。.・゜✭・『••✎••』・✫・゜・。.

Do I even have to explain why I make this??

Not only Ruby's character felt chopped but the whole reincarnation thing felt pointless. I'm sorry if it sounds degrading the creator but the concept itself is great but the plot that was supposed to discover Ai's murderer motive/dark secrets often off side to a pointless arc and even seems like focused on the romance which I don't think was necessary especially for Aqua who supposedly is Gorou's reincarnation.

Let's get to the point, for now I want to focus on the entire Aqua's (Gorou) character. Just because he's reincarnated as a child to a teenager all over again, I don't think it justify his actions (he acts like a teenager but it's just a bit weird since he supposed to be an adult in his previous life). Well there's two thing, if the creator wants Aqua to be Gorou's reincarnation, the creator should've make him act like an adult or make him forgot his past life but somehow will discover it.

✫Hoshino Aquamarine (1) : The beginning of Gorou's new life

However, I wanted Aqua to still inverted Gorou's mindset and character, making him act like an adult and a doctor he is than just a manipulative person. Since he is a doctor, he might be confused at first and maybe having an identity crisis, at first. I like to think he's all silent when he's born to the world all over again, still processing what just happened to him. He might think that his past life as Gorou is just a dream. He's a bit distracted with the fact that Ai is his mother in his new life, he's more focused on who is he. But after like a few weeks he might be conscious of how Ai is his mother now.

In my version, I would like to make Gorou has a wife where his wife is a fans of Ai instead of him. His wife likes watching an idol perform, especially young idol because she likes to think they were her child (she can't have children because of a medical reason). After Sarina's death and him being a doctor that was planned to delivered Ai's child, her wife was murdered when he came back home just as the day he have to delivered Ai's child, knowing that there's stalker that been following him, he run to the mountain trail but then was murdered anyway.

And after he reincarnated as a baby, of course he wasn't able to talk yet. All he does was observing and accepted his fate to be Hoshino Aquamarine with a twin sister, Hoshino Ruby, and Hoshino Ai as his mother. It was weird of course, imagine reincarnated as child of someone who's barely your age, younger even. As he grows up, Ai knowledge him to have a liking with books, which makes her think her son is a genius. Ruby often annoys him like a child she is since she thinks he's too serious and adult-like for a child. Aqua tries his best to act like a child but still trying to discover on what's the stalker (his murderer) motive to kill him and his wife. Not only that, because he wasn't the best at entertainment industry, he thinks it was concerning that someone as young as Ai was pregnant despite her popularity. As he remembers from his wife, idols in entertainment industry usually have their own problems that was considered as dark secrets in the entertainment industry. Feeling like Ai's secrets might reveal his murderer motive, Aqua then started to learn about Ai from maybe stories she told, her performance, books in her house, etc. For now Aqua considered that his murderer motive was connected to Ai's life somehow, perhaps a fan of her? His bond with Ruby was fine as he usually felt bad if he didn't play with his twin sister, however their bond to Aqua is more like a brother to his younger sister than a twin. Aqua thinks Ruby is too extra energetic and more weird than a normal child should behaved, she still act childish nonetheless so he wasn't thinking that far. His bond with Ai is like a normal mother and child relationship, he himself thinks his relationship with his supposedly mother was more distant if compared with Ruby which sometimes makes Ai a bit worried. He tries to be as closed with his family despite the weird feelings he felt for being reincarnated as his wife's favorite idol so suddenly. As his curiosity still going, he heard a gossip about how there's a creepy person going on in the neighborhood. Aqua, who was going out with his mother and twin sister, then was interested at the conversation between those people. He already suspect that the person they talk about might be his murderer since he was sure that the year distance between his death and Ai giving birth of course wasn't that far, very close if said. He was getting wary about Ai and even his twin sister safety.

He started to became more and more observant about his caretaker (Saitou Miyako) daily routine, for who knows maybe she might met his murderer and at some point will kill her to track down Ai. Saitou Ichigo was not any different in Aqua's eyes, he has to observe the president of Ichigo Production Inc who is also his mother's surrogate father. The more he dig, the more he knows how Ai was in fact an idol with ambition but her flawless facade was just an act to hide something deeper, perhaps traumatic event? That's what he diagnosed to her though. Not only that, who's the father of Ai's child? Is his murderer reason to kill him was to regained information that will lead to Ai? Or some kind of anger of the fact Ai is having child? His wary became more worse as he several times has to beg Ai to stay at home until a certain day he thinks will be safe for her. Realizing his twin sister admiration for their mother lead her to impersonate her was just makes things worse for him. He often tried to style her sister more differently than Ai to prevent anyone to point out the similarities. All of that work until he forgot he was in a literal child's body. One day, he fell into a high fever, 2 days before the dome concert. When the D-day was come, Aqua is not fully recover yet he doesn't want to burden Ai for her important concert. He tells her that he was fine and just feeling a little cold, Ai then about to give him a medicine before going to her concert with both of her child. Suddenly she hears a knock from the door, thinking it was the president and co, she walks right away to the front door. Aqua wasn't fully focused as he also thinks it was the president and the co, forgetting about the risk if it was someone unknown, someone that maybe is Ai's stalker.

The accident happened too quickly, hearing someone yelling makes Aqua gets out from the bedroom as he told Ruby to stay in. Staring at Ai getting stabbed at the exact same person that murders him. His body was getting weak but he quickly catch Ai that's about to fall, hearing the person rumbles about how he can't accept Ai having a child and was a liar in public. He can't say a single words as Ai mutters out her true feelings to the person, and Aqua's theory was right about that but his focus was more to a memories back when his wife was killed instead caring about is his theory was right or not. After the person ran away, he quickly tried to find anything to prevent Ai's blood from coming out much more but before that, Ai pulls him to her embrace, saying all the things she always wanted to say. Whatever Aqua wanting is, no matter how different his goal from hers and his twin sister is, she hopes Aqua turns to be a morally good person and was able to pursue his dreams. That was in fact another failure for Aqua, for Gorou that he couldn't save another person. Sarina was first, then his wife, now it's Ai. All of the innocent person has to die because he was late again. No matter how fake Ai is, for him, she is still a teen who tries to find the meaning of life, someone who tries to pursue her career and find a point of relationship. Ai is his mother yet his child, reminds him of Sarina's innocence and his wife's ambitions. Ruby and Ai are his family now after he lost his wife. He never had someone as heartwarming as they are after his wife, even if it's platonic, he never felt a platonic love this heartwarming. His wife was right, Ai is amazing. It was upsetting because he never thought that a fan could be so cruel to their idol just because they're an ordinary human who have their own life.

Just a few days after Ai's death, the stalker commits su1cide. It was make sense for him if the stalker will kill himself after that but what was he questioning is how the stalker knew their house? The stalker might be smart as Aqua can't just underestimate a fan's capability but he was sure that the house location was protected as Ai was a very popular idol. And for now, no one seems to know that Ai has a child, then how that man knows? The only people that knows about this are the president and his wife (his and his sister's caretaker). But if they are the one who spoil Ai's location, it'll be an absurd reason since Ai popularity was also the one who makes them regains money. B-komachi members? It doesn't seems like that, but it can be, maybe jealousy for the reason. Then who's the other suspect? Thinking it again, Aqua started to wonder back on whose makes Ai pregnant? Since he never heard about the mentioning of his and his twin sister's father, it makes him wonder if this person is dead or he simply just absent. Or is there some kind of misunderstanding that makes them seperate and leads his father to get a revenge to her? If his father is still alive, that means they engaged in a relationship 9 months or more before she gets pregnant. Since the only one knows about Ai's pregnancy are the president and his wife and they were there when she's about to delivered, right? And the other person knows about Ai's pregnancy nonetheless was his father, he might gave the information to Ai's stalker for some reason because, who else then?

His first suspect from B-komachi members changed to his father, who is he and what his motive to ruin Ai's life? Most importantly, where is he and is he still alive? Aqua used all the information to even dig more to the entertainment industry which he's not familiar with.

This was just a start for the story, would you like to know how Aqua (Gorou) adapted with the entertainment industry despite being a doctor in his past life? Would he still be an actor in my version? Or do you wanted to know about Ruby (Sarina) perspective first? Let's just wait and tell me if you're interested for more!

Next :

✫Hoshino Aquamarine (2) : The genius doctor in entertainment industry

✬Hoshino Ruby (1) : The beginning of Sarina's true life

✬Hoshino Ruby (2) : The new ambitious star in entertainment industry

✵Hoshino Ai : The truth about the perfect idol

✮Arima Kana

✭Kurokawa Akane

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[nijigasakilove]

Ahhhh Akane masterclass! Been waiting on she and Aqua trip to his hometown and as usual DG did a great job with it. I love seeing how fast Akane is to pick up on things and how she just instantly knows when something’s up with Aqua. She’s truly the driving force behind so many big reveals in this story. So many cute moments in this one with she and Aqua too

First of all, the fact we’re finding Gorou body in the anime and then the stuff that’s happening in the manga rn is hilarious. The way they time this stuff is so good. But as for the episode, I loved this walk down memory lane. It had never even occurred to me that both Sarina and Gorou were missing a mother’s love in their life and so them both being reincarnated with a loving mother was fitting.

Akane checking aqua temperature and trying to give him meds after he said he needed to into he hospital was so sweet. She just comes prepared with everything. Ruby calling her onee-chan just feels right because she does have that older sister vibe to her, encouraging Ruby to pursue her love interest who’s funnily enough her current bf 😂

Sarina flashbacks are always gut wrenching because how could you just leave your daughter in that hospital and never come check on her. Like what sort of evil POS do you have to be.. the only happiness she ever had was Gorou and Ai.. at least as Ruby she’s smiled and been happy most of the time.

Crow girl finally in the anime!!

And that ending, man what a cliffhanger to leave off on and we got to wait an extra 4 days for the finale on the 6th. Season 3 announcement better be coming as well!!

[nefellibatta]

━━━ ❪ DVD ❫

― If you're watching this DVD, you must think I'm old. I'm glad to think so ― The female voice laughed at the recording as she stared at her viewer.

― I know this is sudden or something but... I don't want to do anything bad in your lives. Due to my own mistake, I ended up getting pregnant the night I went to that party, I know it's irresponsible of me but... I decided that I'm going to move and build a new life in a new place ― The woman in the video said and smiled softly as she got up from the couch she was sitting on.

― I sent this DVD to two people, Ai Hoshino and Hikaru Kamiki..... I'm afraid you'll feel disgusted with me or something, but I'd like to say that I loved every moment we spent together and I'd like to personally say that... these years with you were the best of my life since Gorou died, if I could I'd say that I love you... I have to go, thank you for watching the video― The figure of [name] inside the video approached the camera while smiling before turning it off and ending the recording.

Aqua was silent as he sat watching the DVD recording for the tenth time, he really wanted to know why such a caring and caring woman like [name] would change so drastically, the boy's blond hair fell softly down his handsome face as he listened to Ruby calling him

Aqua got up and disconnected the video from the computer, as he turned and left the room only to see his father standing in the doorway.

"Dad?...I thought you had already gone to work," Aqua said, looking at Hikaru.

"Your mother went to work early today, and I only have filming this afternoon. I'll take you and Ruby to your appointments, why? Is something wrong? " Hikaru said looking at Aqua, their starry eyes looked at each other deeply.

Hikaru smiled darkly at his now 16 year old son, but the sound of quick footsteps were heard and made both blondes turn their gazes to see Ruby.

―Aah! Stop taking so long! We have appointments! Nii-chan! Let's go!―Ruby complained as she caught her brother and father's attention as she ran around trying to find something

"Sure, sure. We're going, Ruby." Hikaru said, giving a small smile with his eyes closed as he watched his daughter go to her room and grab her bag. But then he held out his hand to Aqua.

―Return

― Return what? Dad ― Aqua said seriously as she looked at her father seeing him make a dark expression and would be the same as him

― The DVD, don't even try to lie. Ai hid hers, and you were the only one who found out where mine is. Give it back right away, Aquamarine― Hikaru said, looking seriously at his own son. The older blond man kept that DVD like a treasure to be protected until the end of the world, especially because that was the only thing Hikaru and Ai had of [name] since she moved and disappeared for 13 years.

13 years straight without any contact or appearance from that woman who transformed his feelings into something like an addiction or a drug. What reassured Hikaru was knowing that [name] was pregnant with his child whether she wanted it or not, he didn't care and didn't even mind watching that video hundreds of times and even imagining what [name] would be like with his child.

"Here," Aqua said, handing over the original DVD, making the boy's father smile and pat his head as he put it away in his coat and walked down the hallway. Aqua was silent before taking the hidden copy of the DVD and putting it away, then turning off the computer.

The sound of the family's footsteps as they left the apartment, since after the attempted murder that Ai suffered the family had to move from the apartment they were in. When Hikaru received the DVD from [name] his world fell apart and in order to get closer to Ai and have something more from [name], they both made peace and he made himself present in the twins' lives.

Ai was a good mother, and a good liar since she hid everything she needed from her precious DVD to even the photos and panties that [name] left behind, the obsession was a form of love for Ai and the one she loved had been without any contact for more than 13 years.

Ruby hummed the song playing in her father's car, a song by their mother. The first stop was to drop Ruby off at the studio along with Kana and Mem cho so they could train while Hikaru soon began driving to where Aqua was supposed to train for the Tokyo Blade play.

Now that Hikaru was CEO of Kamiki Productions, he was responsible for several productions, even supporting his son and daughter, but he still remained a cold and mysterious man. Aqua glanced at her father while he quickly looked away. 

― What do you want to ask? I can hear your thoughts beating inside that head. Aqua― Hikaru said as he kept his hands on the steering wheel and he turned off the music

― What did you do to [name]? She wouldn't suddenly leave a place she liked to disappear, you did something to her, didn't you?

―Why are you accusing your father of doing something? I didn't do anything to [name], I would also like to know why she did it. But as she said herself, it was her mistake ―Hikaru said with a small smile but full of dark feelings.

―SHUT UP!.... You don't know anything about her! You still have the nerve to blame her!? I saw that pen drive of yours!, the one you hide from me, Ruby and Ai! Folders and folders full of [name]'s photos! AND YOU STILL HAVE THE COURAGE TO LIE!?― Aqua snapped, he didn't know if it was Aqua or Gorou's soul still in his body that was trying to hit the other blond man.

―Aah~ how kind of you to tell me what was in that file, I'm not lying at all Aqua, it was her mistake to sleep with a stranger... if [name] hadn't drunk so much, maybe she wouldn't be fucked ―Hikaru said, on the tip of his tongue the taste of pride and pleasure filled Kamiki's mouth knowing that he had done that.

Just as Aqua was ready to get out of his seat and do something stupid, the sound of a connection cut through the atmosphere, Hikaru reached out his finger and pressed the button on the car's dashboard.

"Dad! I'm glad you answered! I called Aqua and he didn't answer. I forgot my bag in the car, can you bring it for me? I know you're going to use the studio today too, so it'll be a one-way street!" Ruby's voice was breathless and excited while Ai's voice could be heard in the background.

―Sure, I'll take Aqua and I'll be right there― Hikaru said and hung up and soon he stopped where Aqua was going to rehearse for the Tokyo Blade play.

―...Hikaru, what did you do to her?―Aqua said as she got out of the car and looked at her father who was in the driver's seat.

― Guess what ― Hikaru said, his eyes shining with malice and something darker before he closed the window and continued on his way to the recording studio where Ruby and Ai were.

― I got her pregnant ― Hikaru said to himself maliciously inside the car

― I'm going to find out what that bastard did to you, [name] ― Aqua said to himself as he entered his training studio, alone in the middle of the large hallway.

At that same hour, minute and second. Both father and son opened their eyes revealing dark and gloomy stars just like the night while Aqua's shone with hatred and revenge Hikaru's shone with his sick desire of how he controlled [name]'s life with just one step

―Don't you think what you did was a bit too far? Well you literally...abused her Hikaru― Ai's voice came from the call he was having with her at the moment.

―You talk like that but you forget that if you had a dick, you would do the same as me. Right?, baby―Hikaru said laughing as he put on his sunglasses.

―Yeah...you have a point―Ai said before saying goodbye and hanging up.

[hamliet]

I have a question you said in a review the eyes in the characters of oshi no ko when I read about it design wise I am intersted in the eyes of Akane, Kana and Mem-cho mean something about there role and character in the story I was wondering if you can elabortate on it.

Okay, so! To start with this topic, though, we actually have to talk about Ai first and foremost.

Hoshino Ai breaks down into several meanings. For one thing, it breaks into “hoshi no eye,” which literally means “starry eye” in Japanese. Ai’s eyes notably have stars in them, and Aqua and Ruby have one starry eye each.

Of course, this breaks into several meanings itself. "Starry eyed" is an English idiom for an idealistic, childlike view of the world. If we break the "star eye" idea down further, "star" references Ai being a "star," an idiom for a famous person.

"Hoshino" also contains a homonym for the Japanese verb "hoshi" (欲しい), which means "to want." This also indicates a huge part of Ai's character. The kanji used to write Hoshino means "star" and "indigo"--indigo is the color that you get when you combine aqua and ruby, by the way.

Plus, Ai is written in katakana (アイ), not kanji as would be typical for a name. Katakana is the Japanese script for loan words, which reinforces the literal translation of “eye.” But, it's also a homonym for the Japanese word for love (愛), which is pronounced like "eye." In turn, the story explores love as a major theme--for example, Ai’s final thoughts are about her finally understanding love.

So, from Ai, we see that eyes and particularly starry eyes matter.

In the OP, we see a progression of five eyes--Aqua, Ruby, Kana, Akane, and Mem-Cho.

Hikaru, Aqua, and Ruby

Aqua and Ruby share one starry eye that goes black when they are in a bad mental state (Hikaru's eyes are also starry eyes that have turned black, again reinforcing that he never had a childhood).

The implication of both Ruby and Aqua having one starry eye each and switching between looking more like their mother's eyes and their father's eyes is to emphasize their internal conflict. They both bear the legacy of their parents, and have their own legacies in their past lives and a blank slate, a chance for a new start (the unstarred eye). What they do with this life and which legacy they want to focus on (Ai's love and life, or Hikaru's focus on trauma and repeating a cycle of violence) is their choice.

If we take the saying "the eyes are the window to the sopul," then we also see that as much as Ruby and Aqua are Sarina and Gorou, they are also Ruby and Aqua, children of Ai and Hikaru. That's why I actually am not so sure about the common fan presumption that Crow Girl saying the children had no souls meant they were supposed to be stillborn. They aren't Sarina and Gorou any more so than they are Ruby and Aqua.

Now let's finally move onto your characters.

Kana

Kana’s eyes resemble galaxies.

What this means isn't entirely clear, but instead of a single star, she has hundreds in her eyes. This presumably indicates her potential as a human being, and her way of reminding both Aqua and Ruby (in her better moments, anyways) that they are part of a huge world and a huge cosmos, and don't have to focus on just one aspect of life--namely, revenge on Hikaru for Aqua and revenge for the doctor for Ruby. Other people around them also contain their own light.

Akane and Mem-Cho

Akane’s look like an evening sky.

Mem-Cho’s resemble daytime, complete with light reflections forming clouds as shown below:

Again, I'm not entirely sure what this means per se, but I would guess it emphasizes, thematically, the reality of life. People live, and they die. Day comes, and then night.

Death (something repeatedly associated with Akane--no I don't think she's going to die) is a part of life. I would guess Akane will help Aqua and Ruby accept this part of themselves somehow, as written by @aspoonofsugar here.

Mem-Cho, on the other hand, shines brightly, illuminating their need to grow in some ways and offering wise advice. She's not as complex a character at the moment, but her role so far seems congruent with this idea.

[twentyfivemiceinatrenchcoat]

oshi no ko will never be a normal love story. never ever ever ever ever ever ever

[aihoshiino]

chapter 164 thoughts

This post discusses suicide and suicidal ideation in the context of Oshi no Ko.

Chapters Until The Story Ends Without The 143 Kiss Being Addressed Or Acknowledged: 2

Bizarrely, I feel like I don't have a ton to say about this chapter. Not because stuff doesn't happen in it but because… fuck, man. What do I even say. I can't quite 100% shake my suspicion that Akasaka has some asspull up his sleeve and that Aqua might come back in style form, even if altered to the point that he isn't the Aqua we know anymore, but this chapter is clearly set up for us to think he's dead and for us to see other character's reactions to this news, so I'll talk about the text with that assumption in mind. This one will probably be kind of all over the place so bear with me ig

That being said… this is all kind of dumb as fuck, huh

Like. There's just so many insane contrivances with this setup that it's impossible for me to take it seriously. Putting aside that there's no way on planet earth Aqua's plan should have fooled anybody, why in God's name are his family and friends finding out about this from a news broadcast and not, like… Being contacted by the police?? Or at least hearing about it beforehand??

I also really don't like that we're setting up to have a whole chapter focusing on Ruby's response to all this while Aqua's Literal Mother and all his friends get like. Two panels to be shocked at the news. If the series ends without giving them all the space to grieve I think I will be legitimately really pissed off lmao

The presence of 15 Year Lie in this chapter also makes me agonizingly aware that we know basically nothing about it to this day, even though the contents of the movie are what this final arc revolves around. Aqua's plan relies on Kamiki's crimes as exposed by the movie being heinous enough that Kamiki would kill Aqua to silence them but…

WHAT FUCKING CRIMES???

The Kamiki we saw in the movie was only ever portrayed as a victim in the scenes we see. Unless the story is trying to imply that Kamiki is somehow responsible for Uehara and Airi's deaths or that 15YL makes him directly responsible for Gorou's death or - literally I have no idea what this could be referring to.

I dunno, man. It's hard for me to really want to buckle down and analyse this because so much of it feels entirely contrary to the story that came before. I've always insisted that the one thing that we could guarantee was that Aqua and Ruby would survive the series and be happy because so much emotional weight is put on Ai's wish for Aqua and Ruby to grow into adults and be happy, and it really seemed like we were building up to an ending of Aqua deciding for himself that he wants to finally live for himself, so this sudden swerve into Aqua being told by God "actually your purpose in life is to nobly commit suicide for your sister" is uh, jarring to say the least.

Part of the issue with this is that I think Akasaka doesn't think of Aqua's sacrifice as being a suicide, narratively speaking, even though Akane literally acknowledges it as such. But the thing is, Aqua's "sacrifice" is emergent from all the same things as his suicidal ideation - his belief that his life is intrinsically less valuable than everyone else's and his continued guilt and self loathing as a result of his trauma. Aqua literally says to Ruby's face in 143 that he feels guilty just for being alive and it's literally never addressed again.

So it's very difficult not to read this ending as the story approving of Aqua killing himself, but only if it's for the right reasons. Not only is that an insanely irresponsible message to put into a story as widespread and visible as OnK is right now, it's also just fucking ghoulish.

Idk. Even if Aqua lived here, I just really dislike this idea of his whole life's purpose being Narratively Affirmed as being to uplift Ruby at his own expense. Aqua is very much like Ai in that he's a person who has spent basically all of both his lives in service to other people, unable to pursue the things that he wants and that make him genuinely fulfilled - an ending that parallels Ai, where he is denied this to the extent that it kills him, is not a bad idea on paper but the execution here makes it fall apart. Like, if the framing was that Aqua and Kamiki were both unable to move on from the past to the point that it kills them, I'd vibe with that or something like it. But as is, this shit is just baffling.

It doesn't help that Aqua's death is just completely unmoored from anything the series has been setting up all this time. I've seen people defending this as being what Aqua's revenge was building up to, but this very explicitly isn't about Aqua's revenge. It's about "protecting Ruby's future", but the idea that Kamiki was a threat to Ruby specifically is something that was introduced all of four chapters ago. Even then, it's deeply undercooked. Like, what it is about Kamiki that makes him SUCH a threat to Ruby that Aqua has no choice but to take the nuclear option and kill them both? Why is this the one and only way to stop him? We don't know - we basically know nothing about Kamiki besides "he's Ai's crazy ex" which is such a massive letdown for an antagonist who's been built up for this long.

Speaking of Ai…. where the fuck is she!!!

I know this is predictable background noise from the Ai Wife Guy, but it really is baffling to me that she's such a nonfactor when the climax happening right now is her son confronting the man who killed her. At best, we get mild lipservice as to her existence but the series is so all-in on this "protecting Ruby's future" framing that Ai's absence here feels jarring. It's not just that Ai should be relevant because I like her (but I DO and she SHOULD) but because it makes for a bizarrely deflated finale. Instead of the tragedy we've been building up to avenging for over 140 chapters, Aqua's death comes as the result of a plan he came up with on the spot to deal with an ill-defined threat that only came into existence 4-6 chapters ago.

It just doesn't really feel satisfying, especially when the series has been so wishy washy when it comes to focusing on Aqua and Ruby's relationship. If the series was going to make that connection The central axis on which this climax revolves, then it needed more fleshing out than it got, regardless of if the series went the AquRuby route or not.

Two chapters left………..

[oshinohoshi]

Oshi no Ko's ending (spoilers)

I've lost hope in Oshi no Ko getting an ending that isn't soul crushing so I'm trying really hard to get myself on board with a tragic ending but it's not easy.

The thing is, I usually like impactful tragedies and bittersweet endings. Ai's death, as much as it makes me deeply unhappy, was brilliant cinema that moved me to tears.

It's just... what I really want for Aqua is to finally live for himself, always keeping Ai in his heart but no longer suffering from unbearable guilt. I want him to realize that Ai's sincerest wish was for her kids to grow up happy and healthy.

And the same for Ruby. She was already coping with Ai's death a lot better than her brother before and after her black hoshigans, but I'd like her to also move on from Gorou romantically speaking and live happily.

Instead, what we might get is Aqua mirroring Ai's death. Both dying from a lie told out of love: Aqua's lie about Hikaru attacking him and Ai hiding her children and telling pretty lies to her fans (obviously that wasn't her fault but it did lead to her death). And both of them having profound realizations about their lives only at death's door.

I have to admit that it would be poignant for Aqua and Hikaru to die because they could never move past their self-destructiveness and trauma. That's a little undermined by the manga seeming to make a case that Aqua does do that by swapping his revenge for a noble sacrifice, but if he wasn't so guilt ridden he wouldn't have become a person who tries to shoulder every burden alone and is willing to fling his life away.

My point being that Aqua dying tells the same story I want about the necessity of moving forward and choosing to try to heal, but it does it in the most gut wrenching way possible. And I fucking hate that.

Because Aqua deserves happiness after a difficult life as Gorou, who lost both his mother and Sarina, and who spent his second life forcing himself to suffer. And I don't need more depression in my life dammit.

Akasaka, I am begging you to do one more ridiculous death fake out because I'm not strong enough for this shit.

[writeronartblock]

.... (sigh) I don't think I need to say anything

This. This is something that I frankly did expect, just- not- y'know... Just because I expected it to happen, doesn't mean I wanted it.

I was hoping, SO HARD, for any type of intervention (divine or otherwise) to happen. Like, "TSUKUYOMI, GET HIS ASS BACK, PLEASE!" type of desperate. Nope, didn't happen, fuck.

I talked about this with some friends, here are some of my past thoughts...

he's such a tragic character, both of his lives as amamiya gorou and hoshino aqua were cut short before they could truly begin, both with the death of Ai and his first mother. and he's saddled with si much grief, and pain, and anguish, and vengeance, and it's--- (sigh)

AQUA DYING?! LIKE, THAT WOULD BE SO UNSATISFYING!! HE HAS TOO MUCH BAGGAGE, TOO MUCH UNFINISHED BUSINESS!!

if they do really stick with it, i'm gonna be so surprised because that will make so many people mad (including me)

like, objectively high climax (having the main protag die), but just really low catharsis

I, like, genuinely don't know how to feel about this. As Akane said in her monologue towards the end of the chapter and even Aqua himself during his final moments...

And as Tsukuyomi herself has said, he was barely 18 years old, he was a fucking child. I think that's the real tragedy, the fact that this boy sacrificed his whole future for the future of other people. But even if he sees this as a "noble" act, protecting his loved ones, he inadvertently caused them more pain than if he just came clean about everything.

Even if he didn't think so, the people he loved would've still love him in turn and cherish him. Yes, they barely or don't even know what you've done up to this point, but the right thing to do is to fess up and wholeheartedly apologize. Instead he threw away his life in service to a greater future he thought was better for them, even though he himself wanted to continue living.

He left Kana, he left Akane, he left Saito, he left Gotanda, he left Miyako.

And in the end... he also left Ruby. The sister he swore to protect from any harm. The one that made him believe that the reason he was reborn as a twin was to watch over her and keep her safe. The one that would experience the most grief than any other character.

Aqua was her brother, her other half. He was also Dr. Amamiya, the love of her life. He was half of the reason why she wanted to be an idol, he was the one who supported her through it all and helped her make her dream come true.

(claps) Bravo Aka, bravo Mengo. I am impressed as I am mortified, and I'm pretting dang mortified. I am angered as I am in grief, I'm mad and anguished, and I'm experiencing the whole stages of grief again simultaneously and repeatedly.

I'll leave one more thing before I end this post...

I used to hear a simple song...

That was until you came along...

Now in it's place is something new...

I hear it when I look at you...

You took my broken melody...

And now I hear a symphony...

[buscaminas]

Bipolarism made into a manga (Oshi no Ko) and other illnesses…things that children should not go through.

Because that illness is linked to the manga (I will explain it with facts and theories) and in fact it is hereditary. Ai Hoshino

Ai's mother was not well, probably she is one of the most hated characters in the series, in fact I have the theory that she conceived Ai, a music producer (it's ironic, really), she put glass in her rice, she physically mistreated her by burning her, hitting her or telling her that she was worthless (Ai's mother was a prostitute) and she was bipolar, the situation was so serious that the mother robbed a supermarket to lose custody of Ai and another curiosity is that she collected 500,000 yen insurance and squandered it on parties and revelry with her lovers. Ai knew about that. The worst thing of all is that the reason for his contempt towards his daughter was because his clients considered his daughter prettier than her mother 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢 The curious thing is that bipolarity does not mean changing to the opposite emotion, for example hate-love, anger-happiness, it can be any emotion at any time and with different intensity, it is a shame that he never sought help and sought happiness in such superficial things (parallels). Hikaru Kamiki

He is a particular case, his parents abandoned him (I have no idea why and I don't want to know, I don't want to understand those things, they just make me angry🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 I want to break those parents' faces). One thing in common with Ai is that having grown up without any affection he thinks that no one cares about him so he doesn't care what he does. Also a bad experience with women (that shi**** woman who took advantage of him and makes me want to kill) and partly Ai who already wanted to sleep with him very quickly (something very common in victims of physical abuse and their desire to have a family) that's why she invites him to her house. But he really couldn't have that will to tell Ai that he loved her because both were good liars apart Ai didn't want to give him more burdens with his other son although I recognize that that situation felt somewhat forced, but well that's not bad with this manga. Hikaru was the mastermind of all this, he was very clever, he even became a millionaire, but he never loved again. I also find his bipolarity to be very forced, it's more crazy. I know he tried to go against Ruby, but he's not 100% responsible for Ai's death, and what Aqua did is stupid. I just hope that wherever he is, he has found peace.

Aqua and Ruby Aqua and Ruby's situation is summed up in that they saw their mother die, and Gorou Amemiya and Sarina Tendouji didn't have proper paternal or maternal figures in their lives.

Kana, Mem-Cho and Akane Here it's not so much bipolarity, but the pressure of being famous at such a young age and believing that you're only worth something when you're successful is a very cruel capitalist concept. Tell me how much you have or what you've achieved and I'll tell you how much you're worth. Speaking of that, something that is already confirmed is that Ichigo did exploit Ai because they falsified documents to change her age since the age to work in the entertainment world is 18 years old or older. But I will not deny that I did appreciate her as her father, I wish that good concept had been maintained in the manga. I also notice that the fantastic part of the series about reincarnation and the crow goddess Tsukuyomi or something like that is forced because it came out of nowhere that Hikaru and Ai are gods I don't see much sense in it (it's an idea without head or tail) the same as the story and the manga are already disappointing. And I hope the ending is leaked… I must upload it. In the end, may everything be God's will.

[midnightyy1]

Oshi no Ko my version✩ (rewriting series)

This is the part 2 of rewriting Oshi no Ko btw!! Hope you guys like it~

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Back to rewriting oshi no ko again cuz I still can't believe Ruby's character get outshine by side characters despite her being the main character and supposedly the next Ai. Yeah, this time we're going to talk about the poor little Ruby that character only revolved around her brother and the fact she's still in love with her doctor are not it. I get it she's in love with Gorou when she's still Sarina but when Sarina already in Ruby's body which mean she's already growing up and change mindset, I just think she should've get that her feelings for Gorou is just a platonic love.

✬Hoshino Ruby (1) : The beginning of Sarina's true life

Honestly, I don't have much to change for Sarina character itself but I suppose I never make Sarina in love with Gorou. Knowing Gorou has a wife, Sarina often asked him about his wife since from the story Gorou has told her, she thinks his wife is a nice person (she is though). Gorou's wife would be in awe when she heard about Sarina's view of her from Gorou which makes her often consider visiting her and eventually finds out that both of them are fans of Hoshino Ai. If you guys wondering why I make Gorou has a wife, it's because I just don't like the idea of Gorou being a fan of Ai (even though I already know his reason but I still don't like it) and I promise his wife will be relevant in the future though she's already dead. Gorou's wife has many times asked Gorou to just adopt her but he has denied her request since Sarina— despite her family not caring about her— still apart of the family by the government's data, it'll be a risk if Sarina's family know about this and would report for some reason. Other reason Gorou denied his wife's request is that he can't promise anyone that he could save Sarina from her illness. Sarina died before Gorou and his wife, the death impact Gorou mostly since he couldn't do anything about her illness nor how her family handled her medication. Another failure and this time he failed to save an innocent child with a big dream.

The day Sarina woke up as Hoshino Ruby, instead of feeling confused, she's absolutely aware that she's reborn like in those mangas she read (yes I hc her to be a manga lover). She got her conscious at the same time Aqua got his conscious, but unlike Aqua, she wants to try as many as possible things in her new life especially after knowing who's their mother was. She loves her hair, although she wish she had the same hair as Ai but at least she got a beautiful pink eyes she always wanted. As a child, she's way too energetic like how Aqua always describe her. She's the type to thinks that twins always look alike and have same style or personality and gender so when knowing that Aqua is her twin brother, she started to learn more about twins and was weirded out by the fact Aqua's interest is so different from hers. However, she likes the fact that she has a twin brother, even if her twin brother already labeled as a genius. But it doesn't make her sees herself lowly than him and determined to be as shining as her mother does to balance herself with Aqua. Ruby often annoyed Aqua to make sure her twin brother doesn't overwork himself. Ruby always thought that both of them were adopted by Ai, makes her never thought of who's their father was, completely oblivious of how similar she is with Ai. Ruby never wondered whenever Aqua tries to style her (not knowing his real reason) and actually likes it because at least she knew that Aqua doesn't completely have a bad taste of styling.

Aqua has noticed that Ruby made a lot of lyrics and some melodies whenever she was alone at the room, it was surprisingly a good one for a child to make. Ruby wasn't an airhead, she's actually quite smart like her twin brother for a child (especially at music) but she tries to be an airhead because of her past. I would love to make Ruby as one of Aqua's source information accidentally because Ruby often eavesdropping the conversation between Miyako and Ichigo or one of them with Ai or Ai with the other members of B-komachi. Some information she gets really intrigued her and she always told that information to Aqua since she knows Aqua would listen to her rambling about everything. Despite Aqua seriousness, he's quite sweet to his twin sister. As I said before, in my version, Aqua's personality is the same as his previous life (understanding, caring, supportive, and empathetic) but in his new life he's more quiet than before when he was Gorou. Back to the topic, in elementary school Ruby was viewed as a young idol by her friends and she loves to be known as that. Even though sometimes some of the students would call her "Ai's wannabe" but she doesn't care anyway. In this life as Ruby, she learned many things about music and idol. She finally felt what is like to have a family, even if it's an unexplainable kind of family.

The days before dome concert, Aqua falls into a high fever that caused a concerned for both Ai and Ruby. Ai would take care of Aqua and Ruby would be the one accompany him. She talks about random things and how she felt sad knowing no matter if she talks all night long, Aqua has already fallen asleep. The D-day has come, Ruby helped Ai and her twin brother to prepared as she's afraid that Aqua will have an illness even though it's just a fever. When Ai about to open the door for the unknown guest, Ruby was too focused on packing things for her mother to care for whoever knocked on the door. She heard a sound of a knife and immediately looks at Aqua to make sure, but then Aqua told her to stay in there. She could heard the voice of a man yelling at Ai. From his rambles, Ruby knows that it was probably Ai's fan, she already heard about how idols having a crazy stalker everyday but she couldn't believe that this stalker will ruin the relationship they have built all this time. The only mother she had, is she getting stabbed? that's where the sound of the knife coming from, is it? Ruby grabs Ai's phone and immediately calls the emergency number as she talks through the phone with an overwhelmed feelings, slowly she spoke to the phone with identity, address, and what happened from what she gets. When the officer told her to not hang up the phone, she obeys what they said as she tries to hold back her tears then multiple times asked to Ai and Aqua, "What happened outside?" As her voice shaking. When Ai proceed to hugs Aqua, she tells Ruby her true feelings from the other side of the room. Telling her of how Ruby was truly her own kind of star and more shining than she is because Ruby knew what is love and her love for music is more than Ai's passion as an idol, she claims. All of those were heard by the officer from the phone call even if it's slightly distorted.

Knowing Ai died makes her whole idea of perfect life crushed one by one. All her imagination about Ai and Aqua watching her perform was crushed immediately. More than Aqua, Ruby was more devastated, making Aqua be the one who comforts her even though he himself felt as devastated as she is. The day after Ai's death, Ruby often asked Aqua on why many people were that delusional and desperate. Every question she asked, Aqua will try his best to answers it even though he knew that Ruby's questions only lead her to grows hatred for stalkers like those. While Aqua was searching for the unknown, Ruby was several times being taken to a therapist but none of them really makes her enthusiastic self back again not until Aqua confronts her about that. Knowing how much of potential Ruby has as an idol, he doesn't want Ruby to just throw away her dreams. He couldn't save Sarina, his wife, and Ai, but he have to save Ruby this time and her big dreams.

Over the time, Ruby finally became the energetic and enthusiastic self again, even though her hatred for stalkers remains the same and hopes she could make a revenge one day even if that Ai's stalker already died.

But that was just a start of her journey to become the idol she always wanted to be. Will she become the perfect idol like her mother? Or she would outshine her mother? Or even have more rotten secrets behind her cute mask? Let's just wait and tell me if you're interested for more!

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✫Hoshino Aquamarine (1) : The beginning of Gorou's new life

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✫Hoshino Aquamarine (2): The genius doctor in entertainment industry

✬Hoshino Ruby (2): The new ambitious star in entertainment industry

✵Hoshino Ai: The truth about the perfect idol

✮Arima Kana

✭Kurokawa Akane

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