#kamiki hikaru

[insertname099]

Original HikaAi Live Action Scenes?!

So the trailer for 『【推しの子】-The Final Act-』 (which is the live action adaptation of the movie arc which got chopped off into its own film, releasing 20th Dec, separate from the LA tv series releasing 28th Nov) dropped a week ago but I finally got around to looking at it properly and GUYS. I THINK WE'RE GETTING LA ORIGINAL HIKAAI SCENES

White roses!! And the card says

"To you, the one's she loved the most"

Is this a letter from Hikaru to the twins?? Maybe a Papa Hikaru moment??

Ai's cat shirt... cute

And look at her long ass hat brim too lmao. Why are they talking to each other like that... to avoid a scandal?

Is she calling him in the hospital??

Anyway. Here's the full trailer... most of these scenes are taken from 0:55

I'm trying not to get my hopes up for a live action adaptation... but if they give me some good HikaAi scenes I don't care if the rest of the show is bad lmao.

[rosaniruby]

Aqua with his pure blue eyes: I'm not like the other girlss.

No but.... right now Ruby looks more like Hikaru than Aqua does.....i love anime team.

[gabbyp09]

[penguinkyun]

hey so remember c.109? infamous hikaru kamiki chapter where he's in the process of murdering yura katayose? and in c.155 where aqua goes "hikarus not the only one behind these murders!" murders including yura. well. guess what

look at the top of this screencap everyone

THATS FUCKING NINO

[blueskykitten]

Hoshino family ♡

[beanghostprincess]

What hurts me the most about this chapter is that everything Ai does is because she wants to save Kamiki from hitting rock bottom and not burden him with their relationship. Good intentions and out of plain, simple love that is translated through lies. And after doing everything she could to love in her own way, she still died because of not being understood. The tragedy of Ai Hoshino will forever haunt me.

[aihoshiino]

With the umbrella scene I’m starting to notice that Hikaru only has ever really given attention to Ruby and barely if any to Aqua. Maybe I’m reading way too much into it idk, but I’m just wondering why Ruby?? Like is he actually making sure she doesn’t surpass Ai, or is it something else? I have one idea, which is that he’s using Ruby to get to Aqua, which seems so convoluted, so idk if I’m confident in it lol 😅😭

anon i'm so sorry but because of the way you phrased this all i could think was -

[iniyaas]

ME RN:

[cori-randomstuff]

I think the difference in how Nino and Hikaru react to Ai confessing the truth (via the blog post and dvd) is deeply interesting.

While Nino doubles down on her deification of Ai and erase every trace of Ai's heart-felt confession. Hikaru accepts them and even states that Ai was a normal girl. (chp160 throws a wrench into things and now that I think about, we don't know how Hikaru feels about the dvd at all, but we are going to pretend like onk ended at 157 for the sake of my sanity.)

They are both clearly obsess with Ai, yet the difference is that Nino does not accept Ai's vulnerability while Hikaru does accept them, revels in them even.

I think a ninoai relationship would crash and burn way way faster, it would be a consistently miserable affair for everyone involved. (Which is why they should fuck) While hikaai would be more varied, the highs are higher and the lows are lower.

[insertname099]

[rosaniruby]

mother's eyes

father's eyes

[gabbyp09]

[penguinkyun]

the thing abt hkai that i think gets kinda overlooked in discussion sometimes is that, in hikaru's own words, it was an incredibly fast, high octane codependent relationship yes, but what he does not mention is that it was highly codependent– on both sides. because both hikaru and ai were so desperate for acceptance and love, they revolved around each other singularly and to the point that hikaru meets LETS BREAK UP with LETS GET MARRIED with barely a moment's hesitance. they dated for less than a year

but the thing about hikaru's statement–

–is that it's not entirely objective. hikaru's view of the hkai relationship is largely informed by his immense self loathing– he places himself in the role of hopelessly pining after someone who never loved him because he does not believe he can be loved and therefore the end of the relationship Had to be his entire fault rather than the true reason, that they were teenagers in horrible circumstances clinging to each other and that ai made the best choices she could even if her delivery was terrible (affectionate) because if she didn't, then it would have destroyed them both

@aihoshiino put this in an excellent way:

[...] the intended end result of codependency is the destruction and desecration of an individual's singular identity

eventually, sooner or later, hikaru and ai would have consumed any sort of identity either of them managed to build outside of their relationship, ending both "Kamiki Hikaru" and "Hoshino Ai". they'd be trapped in a world where only the two of them existed, constantly trying to please the other. it would have ended in destruction either way you look at it.

damned if they did and damned if they didn't.

[stareirei]

[ameltouati1]

Oshi no Ko Chapter 141 : Hikaru And Ai

I know the latest chapter of oshi no ko was very controversial and everyone is making their own speculation about what might happen but can we take a moment, just a tiny moment to appreciate this panel :

Hikaru has been lying his whole life, always fooling people and never showing his true colors. However, for the first time in his life, someone was able to see through his lies, someone who could tell that Hikaru wasn't fine as he always says.

And he opened up to her, we saw in the last chapter that both of them were enjoying each other company and having fun together but Hikaru seems to trust her a lot to the point of telling her about the abuse

And Ai, Ai went to confront Airi the moment she heard all of his story, which was huge change in her character, she usually seems detached from the world and not getting involved and always saying -not what she want to say but - what people want to hear, but here, she stood up for Hikaru's sake and made Airi know what she truly is (nothing but an abuser).

[hamliet]

thoughts on how oshi no ko has portrayed what happened to hikaru (thus far) and any ideas for what his motives/role in the story is?

Honestly? I think it's doing a pretty good job of portraying it. TW for discussions of childhood sexual abuse below.

When it's first introduced to us that Hikaru was raped by the adult actress, Aqua doesn't have much reaction. On an intellectual level, he gets it, but on an emotional level in terms of what this means for Hikaru, for his development and for his pain, he doesn't get it at all. It's only when we get to Akane's expressed horror ("that's sick!") that we get an actual reaction.

The previous chapter was honestly acting and a flashback as it actually happened, and I appreciated that they showed it as violent.

That's something so often missing from stories of older women who rape younger boys (see Mary Kay Letourneau). It's not a love story. He's not lucky. It's violence.

Like, I spoke about this with a friend after the chapter, but the wiki literally says he was "implied to have been raped." Implied? He was ELEVEN.

I don't think the wiki writers are intentionally being obtuse or dismissive, but there is a subconscious way in which a lot of the world, across cultures, reacts to female predators of young boys in a way that is incongruent with how we react to men who prey on young girls. And to be fair, the latter is a far more prevalent issue but still.

So anyways, I was grateful the final panel of the flashback showed Hikaru being dragged, violently, away from a girl his own age whom he likes by an older woman who won't even introduce his son as his son. Anything Hikaru has, he cannot have.

I've written about Hikaru before, but yeah, he's a scary serial killer at this point who is likely going to target Ruby and/or Kana. He's a final antagonist, obviously, and his past abuses don't excuse him. He's somewhat modeled after Lucifer, and not the Hazbin Hotel version.

But I don't think Aqua's final challenge is stopping Hikaru.

Aqua playing Hikaru in these scenes is challenging him to do what playing Ai has provoked Ruby to do: to empathize and further understand their parents. But, the problem is that Aqua can relate to Hikaru's anger and hatred already.

Again, as I wrote previously, Aqua already is very much like Hikaru (albeit at a far earlier stage): trying to reenact and kill the perceived causes of his trauma and not able to see that he's not going to be happy with such an ending because you can't kill your way to peace.

What Aqua actually needs to do is to come to understand Ai. Ruby, imo, is the one who will come to understand Hikaru, and probably forgive him (not excuse, but this is very likely where it's going).

Ai seemed to, after all. She reached out to Hikaru's proxy (the stalker) and definitely recognized the white roses and knew who had sent him.

Yet she still reached out to her stalker as a human being and empathized with him after he had stabbed her.

If it had been Hikaru standing there himself, she would have done the same.

And lest we think this is solely an example of her toxic wanting-to-please-people trait taking control, this was also the moment--the only moment in Ai's life--where she was finally able to express herself without a lie. It can be both an indictment of the entertainment industry prioritizing pleasing others over your own life and pain and Ai's moment of triumph even amidst tragedy.

Hence again why Aqua's challenge is to understand his mother, not to kill his father as justice for her. He needs to recognize her love for him as her son. She wanted him to live. She wanted him to love. She didn't want him to obsess over her in death.

Ruby, on the other hand, needs to understand Hikaru... and Aqua. Thus far, while she's had the best growth of everyone in this entire series, she is still idolizing Sensei and Aqua thereby.

She needs to see him as a person just as Aqua needs to see Ai as a person. Seeing Hikaru's anger and pain and seeing Aqua's go hand in hand for Ruby (again, not a coincidence Aqua is playing young Hikaru in the movie).

As for where Hikaru goes from there, I don't know. He might end his own life like the stalker proxy did, but I think the fact that that's already happened makes it less likely. He might find new life even if like, in prison, or he might die sacrificing himself for his kids. It's too early to make those exact predictions... but I think Ruby understanding him and empathizing is key.