#snub nose monkey king

[the-monkey-ruler]

Are there any JTTW adaptations that expand on SWK’s old brotherhood in a significant way?

Sadly I can't say that there is a lot of media with Wukong's brotherhood in general beyong Demon Bull King. There are so many movies and shows with Demon Bull King...

But I can say that there is just a small amount with the entire brotherhood being present!

Bull Demon King (2017) 西游之牛魔王

Under the seat of Patriarch Bodhi, the seven holy sages of the demon world, Bull Demon King, Sun Wukong, Peng Demon King, Dragon Jiao King, and others are bound together with Jinlan, vowing to live and die together. At this time, the Taishang Laojun brought Princess Iron Fan to entrust to Bodhi Patriarch, and the Bull Demon King and Princess Iron Fan fell in love for a long time in private. But the Taishang Laojun still had an unruly heart for Princess Iron Fan, so he brought her back, and the Bull Demon King rose up to unify the demon world and wanted to save Iron Fan. However, the Bull Demon King was still captured by the Taishang Laojun. In the end, they finally married because Iron Fan was pregnant and he became a back-up man. Emotionally, Bull Demon King gradually fell in love with the Jade-Faced Fox, and then the brothers fought against each other, and the husband and wife turned against each other. In the end, the Bull Demon King was beaten back to his original shape, and Iron Fan, Red Boy, mother and son depended on each other for life.

The Legends of Changing Destiny (2023)凌云志

The way of heaven is fissioned, Stone (Lin Feng) turns into a demon by chance, and becomes close friends with Canary (Jiang Yiyi). As monsters, they encounter a lot of cold eyes and prejudice since their formation. He has a dream of being a hero but has nothing to do. After going through untold hardships, he finally worships the ancestor of Jiekong in Yaoguang Cave as his teacher. Fortunately, his innocent fellow student Fengling (played by Cheng Yanqiu) takes care of him. Stone practiced hard day and night. During this period, he became a confidant with the lonely and cold Yang Lan (played by Jiang Mengjie), and built Qilai Mountain together. In the heavens, the heavenly soldiers headed by Marshal Beichen (played by Wu Kequn) drove out all the demons, and the demon world rose up to resist, but all this was actually secretly manipulated by the Wuji Holy Venerable (played by Yue Yueli) after the invasion of the Hongmeng Heart Demon. Stone led the bloody battle between the demon world and the heavenly world, and became a hero to protect the weak monsters. At this time, the Holy Lord Wuji's goal of disrupting the Three Realms is about to be achieved. In order to revive the way of heaven and protect the common people, Stone rushes to the Dao Stone of Heaven without hesitation, trying to smash the Holy Lord of Wuji's conspiracy... The movie is adapted from the novel Turtle Is Not a Turtle.

Seven Sages (2030) 七圣

The first press conference of the mythical film "Seven Sages" was held. The film was directed by Ma Chucheng and starred by Huang Minghao, Andy Lau, and Zhong Chuxi and others. It is reported that Andy Lau will play Sun WUkong in the film, and Huang Minghao will play Nezha in the film. At the same time, Andy Lau will also serve as the producer of the film. "Seven Sages" are the seven sworn brothers in Chinese mythology. This mythological group is also mentioned in "Journey to the West" It is also mentioned in the "Seven Saints" that they are: Bull Demon King (Heaven Parrell Sage), Flood Demon King (Grand Sage Covering the Sea), Peng Demon King (Sky Soaring Great Sage), Lion Camel King (Mountain Removing Great Sage), Macaque King (Sage of Ventilation), Snub Nose Monkey King (the great sage who exorcised the gods), Monkey King (Great Sage Equal to Heaven). In "Journey to the West", only the Bull Demon King and Monkey King Sun Wukong appeared. This time it may focus on the story of their seven sworn brothers, The film tells that the filming started in May this year, This is also the first time Andy Lau played the role of Monkey King

Now these are not all the media that has ALL of the brotherhood as some series like Journey to the West 1999, 2010, and 1987 does have all the brothers together but I didn't include them as they are not explored.

Also there are movies with some of the brothers INDIVUDALLY are in it but not all of them. Like The Real vs. Fake Monkey King (2020) 真假美猴王之大圣无双 has the Lion Camel King as the main villain but they don't have any other brother so I don't think that would count as exploring the brotherhood so to speak.

Here are some pics of the 1999 Brotherhood! Love their designs.

Bull Demon King, Flood Dragon King, Peng Demon King, Macaque King, Lion Camel King, and for some reason, they chanced the Snub-nosed Demon King into some king of armadillo-looking thing. This was interesting to me that rather than showing how loyal his brothers are in this version is how unreliable instead they are. They were partying with 99 Wukong up until the point that heaven was attacking and in that moment, abandoned Wukong to save themselves.

But I think that having the entire brotherhood is only a recent idea that more filmmakers are starting to want to explore with Wukong's character and honestly I hope that we see more of that in the future!! I love the idea of seeing Wukong's warlord years and whether his brotherhood was made from a hard-earned trust or rather flimsy alliances that only stay together when Wukong is guaranteed as the winner.

I think in either case can show the lengths that Wukong went to get these men and whether they followed Wukong out of fear, being the strongest warlord in the area and it only made sense to follow him and that Wukong overestimated their loyalty to him in times of trouble. And that perhaps reflects his current brotherhood with the pilgrims and how instead they all suffered together through tribulation rather than Wukong being left to heaven's punishment. Highlighting how Bull Demon refused to see Wukong as a brother after he lost to heaven the next they meet.

Or if they got the route that the brotherhood did follow Wukong out of a strong bond and how that fell apart from the battle of Flower Fruit Mountain, perhaps Wukong taking advantage to only keep his own monkeys safe in the battle while his brotherhood's armies were captured instead like in the books. And it’s only when he lost what he had, lost his brothers and lost his title as warlord and now turns into a pilgrim he sees the errors of his way in how he took advantage of those that followed him blindly. He might not be able to change the past but he tries to do right with his new brothers in the life ahead of him.

So much can be done!

[spexirou]

Clacks these two plastic mfs together loudly

[ryversreality]

happy 2025!

personal concept work

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concept description below

From Flower Fruit Mountain / Mt. Huaguo, Dil (golden langur) and Murni (silvery-leaf langur) are tired of the simple fruit, leaf, and meat platters. So, they decide to travel around the world to eat “all the food” for their honeymoon.

As part their travels, they end up in a Vietnamese Seafood Market. Dil finds the local selection so delicious that he offers it to Murni. In the top right corner is their friend Saffron (golden snub-nosed monkey), who tries to steal a crab.

[antidotefortheawkward-art]

妖族七大圣 Seven Great Sages of Yao Kind

[ID: A character line-up of the Seven Great Sages, left-to-right by seniority status and accompanied by their king title in seal script. They are all dressed in varying levels of armor in an overall red-orange-yellow color palette. Bull Demon King has one hand on his hip and the other hand holding half of a skull with two fingers up like a wine bowl. Jiao Demon King has one hand on his hip with the other on the hilt of his sword. Peng Demon King is standing, wings not folded but not outstretched, with his hands in mudra positions. Lion-Camel King is smiling with his eyes closed, one paw hooked onto his belt and the other resting within his off-the-shoulder outer shirt. Macaque King is standing with hook swords in each of his hands. Golden Snub-nosed King is leaning against a wolf's teeth staff. Sun Wukong is standing, arm slightly up and head tilted down, his staff held behind him. End ID]

[tuskstudioart]

Woaw new fur pattern who dis???🤨🤨

Just a new fur reference I wanted to get out whilst I fully flesh out Sun Wukong's design n other things-!

He's a little guy,your honor

[oddogoblino]

Still getting the hang of this buuuuut Snub-nosed Monkey Spirit King in LMK!! Since he wasn't included in canon I oc-ified our boy. Basic lore stuff under cut

Those metal rods of his are something he can clang together to make barriers/sound waves that repel gods and gods only. Deities don't count until they're considered gods specifically. MK & his friends would be fine under the sound waves but nezha would not be basically.

His relationship with Wukong is strictly parasocial 😭 With a resentment towards Heaven and having personally witnessed Wukong's struggle and eventual failed attempt to rampage it in his origins, he projected a lot of his feelings onto Wukong and continued trying to find a way to take down heaven while believing it's the only way for either of them to be free and happy.

He was a servant for heaven as part of the punishment for his parents' actions and he grew bitter for it, eventually creating his rods and trying to learn how to fight until he was caught plotting against them. Fighting his way out, Snub Nosed now hides in the underworld as he gathers spirits of monkeys from all forms/realms to be his eventual army. All the while he believes he's doing it in Monkey King's name. He can't fathom Wukong actually caring about anyone "who kept him trapped".

[zuala-bear]

[endie-spirit]

He Xingfang Xia Wukong

This is my LMK/JTTW monkie oc! Meet He Xinfang! but ya can just call her Xinfang or Xin for short :) She is a Blue snubbed nosed monkey who prefers to keep her fur tick and her tail fluffy. Has been with the great sage even before JTTW and was raised by a troop of gorillas but that's a deferent story. Feel free to give any questions to her and her family. Mk, Mei, Redson, Macaque(lui'er Minhou), Rumble and Savage, Nezha, and as well as her only birth cub Jaing! Pronouns: (she/they/bitch)

[angstandhappiness]

OOOOF

“You used to be my brother who I loved.” 

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I am once again thinking about the potentially amazing tragic (and perhaps eventually cathartic) elements that could be introduced into Monkie Kid if the five other yaoguai of the monkey king’s sworn brotherhood from his warlord days made an appearance. Like these are all very strong individuals who knew and loved Sun Wukong when he was a hyper-competent, uber-poweruful, and very successful yaoguai ruler, a far cry from the depressed mess that he is in the lego show’s timeline. Seeing Sun Wukong in his current state would probably be a very unpleasant shock to all of them, especially since this is supposed to be the “improved” post-journey version of the monkey king who also spent years thrashing tons of yaoguai for the sake of some weepy monk. And the grand result of all of that seems to be him going from a yaoguai who everyone loved and who loved life to becoming a living billboard for why you should Never Ever Ever Trust Humans Or Gods, not unless you want to become a self-isolating sadsack that everyone hates and who ruins everything because I guess he’s just that stupid now.

Oh no.

[starstrvckfool]

hehehe this jin wants to hear about jin

OMG somebody who wants to hear about my lmk oc!!!

So Jin is a lmk oc of mine that I made about.. Last march! Here is his ref (he's 23 in this ref because it takes place s4-5)

His name basically means "shadow snub-nosed monkey" kinda like how macaques name is simply "the six-eared macaque"

So ya he's based off of this monkey

Backstory/basic lore

I headcannoned that macaque got revived year's ago before lmk pilot (mainly because he knows things like how to fly a jet and Code games?? HE WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT IF HE RECENTLY GOT REVIVED/silly)

so one of the things LBD ordered him to do was to create a soldier for her if he didn't want to comply with freeing her using the skeleton key, so he tried using his magic to create a shadow clone that would withstand a struggle, basically one that was stronger and wouldn't easily poof away, but putting too much magic into something was costly because instead of making a clone he accidentally made Jin. Since Jin was a baby monkey at the time macaque then had to raise him and take care of him. (bro said he wouldn't get attached and then got attached)

Time skip and it's lmk s1-2 Jin is 21 now and is training under macaque, and then when we get to s3 Jin actually has to serve LBD! (There's more lore for s4 and upcoming s5 but it's stuff to do with his friend group called wintertide)

Powers

Because he was made with macaques magic he gained some traits from the older monkey, he can use shadow magic but he cannot do

・transformations

・make clones

He also has a large range of hearing like macaque but it has a smaller range than macaque since

1. He's younger than him (I HC macaques hearing gets better with age)

2. He only has 1 set of ears

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

He also has some of lbds powers from when he was her soldier, it's nothing really prominent except the ability to create ice/bone(?) structures while portaling and giving people headaches

(just imagine macaques abilities in s3 in the prince the king and the shadow)

Ok that's about it I hope you enjoyed this because I love talking about my oc!!

[artemismoorea03]

I Have Theories - Potential LMK Season 5 Spoilers

I have had this theory since Season 3 but Season 4 fueled it and now from the little I have seen of Season 5 it is *twice* as strong. Keep in mind I have not seen Season 5 yet but I will mention spoilers that I have seen so if you don't want to know, don't continue!

Also potential MAA Spoilers because part of MAA is built off of these theories!!!

Alright, for those of you who are on my MAA Discord you guys might have seen me mention my theory before (because I have plenty of them). I have one theory that has to do with the snake character from Season 5 - Xiang Liu I think is his name? But this has to do with MK specifically. Now, unfortunately finding proper sources for Ancient Mythologies is hard especially with AI and shit now popping up a million half-assed things based off of previous searches. So, some of my research is patchy at best, so if I get some things wrong don't be afraid to gently point me in the right direction but also keep in mind Google only gets me so far and LMK has frequently changed things to help better fit the narrative.

Note from here on out everything in quotations is directly from a source! Be it Wiki, the Journey to the West Books, or otherwise!

Now according to the Journey to the West there are Four Celestial Primates.

"The Intelligent Stone Monkey; who knows transformations, recognizes the seasons, discerns the advantages of earth, and is able to alter the course of planets and stars." - This is Wukong for those of you who don't know! :D

"The Red-Buttocked Baboon; who has knowledge of yin and yang, understands human affairs, is adept in its daily life and able to avoid death and lengthen its life."

"The Bare-Armed Gibbon; who can seize the sun and the moon, shorten a thousand mountains, distinguish the auspicious from the inauspicious, and manipulate planets and stars."

then finally, "The Sixth-Eared Macaque; who has a sensitive ear, discernment of fundamental principles, knowledge of past and future, and comprehension of all things." - this is Macaque!

(^ previous quotes all directly from the Journey to the West)

But they are not the only 'monkey's in mythology, in fact there are quite a few! Including the Orangutan King (who online I find referenced as a Snub-Nose instead so again, different sources lead to different results) who is a member of the seven sages and the Macaque King who may or may not be the Six-Eared Macaque but was definitely made that way in LMK!

Another monkey is Pangu (who I call Pen/Pengu in MAA after their rebirth). Now, as already stated multiple times already there are a lot of differences depending on sources! Not to mention different beliefs and religions also have different stories, so I am just going off of what I have found and consistencies within them!

To start Pangu is said to have been born from something called a "Cosmic Egg" on their Wiki page which was formed from the vast nothingness of space! Now, depending on source Pangu was either sent by the Celestial Realm to do what he did next or just decided that he had enough of the Celestial Realm messing with the Earth. Regardless, he took his axe and cut Yin from Yang and as such split the Celestial Realm from the Earth.

Pangu then spent the next 18,000 years pushing the two apart creating the space in between before finally dying and collapsing. After that Pangu turned into everything. The Sun, the Moon, the Mountains everything and anything.

One source (Nüwa's Wiki specifically) suggests that Nüwa and her twin Fuxi were born from Pangu's child, making them Pangu's grandchildren!

Also on Nüwa's page is something of note and another major source for my upcoming theory, a note on Pangu that isn't listed on Pangu's Wiki.

"Pangu was said to be the creation god in Chinese Mythology. He was a giant sleeping within an egg of chaos. As he awoke, he stood up and divided the sky and the earth."

Specifically pay attention to that second line. He was a giant sleeping within an egg of chaos.

Now, what is MK consistently called; Harbinger of Chaos.

Which is exactly what Pangu would have likely been seen as to anybody around when he separated the Heavens and Earth!

Onto my theory now for LMK specifically.

When Nüwa made MK she probably had a plan or a reason. (Again, I haven't seen Season 5 so people might have more clues to support or rip this part). There is no way she would just make a Harbringer of Chaos unless she had a set reason and I suspect that reason had to do with Pangu.

Specifically bringing Pangu back.

From some sources I found they suggest that Pangu was ordered to separate the two to prevent the Celestial Realm from taking advantage of those on Earth. Things that seem to be happening a lot in LMK or seem to be a major concern in LMK. People keep saying there is injustice, that people aren't doing their jobs, that things need to change!

And sometimes the best change comes from chaos itself.

So, I feel that when Pengu's body was sacrificed his soul survived and he was reborn as MK or at least his powers were given to MK so that he could help bring forth a new level of peace to the Realms. An immeasurable amount of power would need a mentor, a brother and somebody who could help teach him how to control it? What better than a Celestial Primate to teach a Primordial Primate?

Wukong - being considered a Celestial after finishing his journey - would be the best choice to raise MK. But Wukong panicked and set MK away to keep him safe - maybe even from himself. He likely wouldn't trust himself with another celestial monkey after he killed Macaque. Not only that but being raised by Pigsy would make sure that MK stayed out of trouble that he was more 'tamed' than Wukong was when he was born and to keep him safe.

He would only come in when MK had accessed his power. Which could be why he was keeping an eye on MK for as long as he had been, then when he picked up the staff Wukong realized he was strong enough and it was time for him to act and train MK.

Now! My spouse just told me that Mac has a kind of power or made some kind of deal with somebody without him knowing it and I have a theory about that too. We saw in Season 1 that Mac can temporary steal and use powers from others. This makes my spouse think that Mac is Pangu's reincarnation but I think that this is only more proof of MK being Pangu.

Why?

Because who in their right mind would give all of Pangu's powers to one creature and then to leave that child with Sun Wukong? I don't think anybody would go with that idea! But I also think that all four Celestial Primates exist to keep the peace, so when Macaque died he would need something else to bring him back. Something more than just a deal with the literal devil (Looking at you LBD!). He would need power. Specifically a power to help him regain and recover his powers.

From what I've found about Pangu from varying sources it implies that as he grew to stretch the space between the two realms he also grew in strength and power. This makes me think that maybe he had a power that allowed him to steal and absorb other powers.

A power that Macaque potentially got from him.

I think MK is Pangu and in the same way Pangu sacrificed himself to bring peace I think MK will have to do the same (clips I've seen kind of support this I think?) But I also think that while MK was born from the same stone as Wukong, he has more in common with Macaque because they share the same source of power.

Again, all a theory and I would love to know if you guys have your own theory or what you think of this one! If you don't wanna leave a comment feel free to chuck a question at me or message me :3 I don't mind!

Sources used for this post:

Journey to the West - Books.

Pangu Wiki: Here

Nüwa Wiki: Here

[the-monkey-ruler]

what are some upcoming xiyouji media that you’re excited for?

Here are a few!

2020 Journey to the West: Conquer the Demons 西游降魔篇 - I think this is like a re-write of the whole Chow Xiyouji films into a tv series!

2020 I'm Not a Great Sage 我不是大圣 - the Six-Earred Macaque being seen as a hero when he is trying so hard to be a villain. (Correction there are two movies with the same name and I got the poster for the wrong one whoops)

2021 Seven Sages 七圣 - a movie all about Wukong's brotherhood like with Snub-Nose Monkey King or Flood Dragon King!

2021 Sun Wukong: Heaven Devourer Monkey孙悟空之噬天魔猴 Trailer - the animation for this looks AMAZING AND I CANT WAIT!!!

2022 King of Confusion: The Rise of the Great Sage / Four Monkeys in Confusion 混世之王：混世四猴 /混世之王之大圣崛起 - Super excited to see Wukong and ALL THE SPIRITUAL MONKEYS!!! FINALLY THE WHOLE GANG IS HERE

2022 Bajie: Movie Preview 八戒：電影搶先看 - I am a huge Bajie fan and this just looks ADORABLE!

2022 The Lower Boundary of the Canopy of Bajie八戒之天蓬下界 - Another Bajie love story and honestly this one looks precious, he really trying to just get his weapon back but oh no he is being WOOED!

2022 Red Boy: Newborn Calf红孩儿之初生牛犊 - super fun animation! Really want to see the back story in this one!

2022 Monkey King and JJ大圣和江流儿 - I NEED THIS I NEED THIS LIKE WATER I NEED HERO IS BACK WUKONG TO BE A FATHER PLEASE

2023 The Legends of Monkey King 凌云志 - This was based on like a web novel and it sound more insane that it should be. can't say it is "good" but it def sounds interesting at LEAST.

2025Monkey King: The Havoc in Heaven西游记之大圣闹天宫 - I have heard that THIS is going to be a prequel to the 2015 Hero is Back Movie SO !!!!!!!!!!!! WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE HERO IS BACK WUKONG HE IS LIKE MY SECOND FAVORITE!!!

2030Monkey King: Flame Mountain孙悟空之火焰山 - the animation here just looks so interesting and Wukong looks so uncaney valley I'm really interested about this one.

NullThe Monkey Prince - this one is kinda a cheat but it is a WUKONG-inspired character and honestly, this looks like a lot of fun!!

NullJourney to the West - I can only PRAY that the art style of the poster for this movie is the same as the animation. I have NEVER seen a Xiyouji movie done by the French but if they make it this whimsical and colorful attitude I'm HERE FOR IT.

Needless to say, I'm excited about a lot of things.

[fansids]

Hi @fansids! Long time no talk! I did see you putting up some sketches of your lmk au, and and such I had to ask if you were thinking of having Sun Wukong's friends from jttw (the Macaque Demon King, the Snub-Nosed Monkey King, the Lion Camel King, etc.) make an appearance?

Hey! What's up?

I'm so glad you ask, because yes!

They appear in the Reverse Prince Au. The only one who I got anywhere presentable in designing was the Macaque Demon King because monke. Ignore her weird proportions:

I can't usually imagine voices for characters all that well, but I feel strongly that she sounds like Shohreh Aghdashloo. She's been old since she and SWK met. The Demon Kings part of the story takes place in her territory of the LEGO equivalent of the Himalayas since thats where the Demon Kings congregated to meet about the whole LBD thing.

As for the story:

Plot-wise the Demon Kings were there to help against LBD, but I can't for the life of me remember the specifics of that plan since I never wrote it down. I am definitely regretting it...

Thematically they were part of Red Son's continuous journey of accepting all the parts of his less than stellar past, making peace with it, and moving on. More specifically about how he'll always be Princess Iron Fan and the Demon Bull King's son, and that's not something he can ignore as it comes to play hard in that part. They also worsen part of Qi Xiaotian's issues of constantly feeling like a placeholder for other people.

Also, minor thing, but Red Son is constantly referred to as the Demon Bull Prince in that arc, as he is the son of DBK. While Qi Xiaotian is the son of the false Sun Wukong, hence his original au being called the "False Prince AU." And both are treated accordingly, so that's fun.

[claricehopefulart]

"...and here she was in front of him. The 'Demon King'."

chawacters I came up with recently as a part of a bigger world of a magical kingdom of monkey people from a dream i had :3 Their names are Kila and King Zabolo. I based Kila off a capuchin, and Zabolo's face is based on a golden snub-nosed monkey.

Under the cut is other characters :3

Here's some assorted sketchies of other characters from the world, theyre from the og dream i had.

(their names are King Oko, Frankie, Eepa, and Dahl)

my dream was about Frankie getting isekai'd to the monkey kingdom lmao. i liked them all so much i wanted to draw more monkey

[angstandhappiness]

SO PRETTY

OP's tags @antidotefortheawkward-art: #i stand by my statement that wukong's rise and fall could be its own series#OKAY SO generals beng and ba are stated to be gibbons but marshals ma and liu are just 'female monkeys' so im assuming theyre macaques#grandma is golden snub-nosed monkey :>#little kid hanging off of marshal beng is a gibbon#xiao zhang is a dusky leaf monkey#sorry the kids' names are sorta cliche gjfdksdsd i wanted them to be clearly references#hope people enjoy recognizing them :> i think i made them obvious enough#btw wukong. marshal ma. and the generals all have opera makeup on but marshal liu is the type of macaque with those red markings naturally#also ma and liu are twins because. cmon theyre basically named 'mon' and 'key' you cant tell me those arent twin names#also its not v ''clear'' with my art style but the beng and ba are girls- jttw needs more female characters and macaques are matrilineal so#also bc we all know i self project onto wukong and i am but a trans guy who grew up in an 'all-girls' school used to being token boy#👉👈 i like how i rendered these.... jttw movie concept art vibes...

Denizens of Huaguo

[tuskstudioart]

THE BOY!!!!!!!

IT'S BEEN DONE. I've finally made my down design for Sun Wukong!! GOD I was so nervous,kept rechanging the colors and everything.

I had finally decided to make my own JTTW Wukong 'adaptation' after seeing other artists BEAUTIFUL interpretations of the Monkey King himself!! (Like @royaltea000, to name one- I love love LOVE the tassels and I need to make fanart soon-)

Here he issss!!!! He's a smug bastard but I love him,and I had SO MUCH FUN designing him.

He's...also based off these lil guys...if u couldn't tell (Golden snub nosed monkey)