#skybreakers

[cosmereplay]

(Thanks to @priscellie for the idea!)

[wyndlerunner]

[purple-egg-yolk]

Trying to decide if Nale would play games by house rules or not. Would he see them as breaking the rules of the game, or is the game under the jurisdiction of the leaders of the house, therefore legal but only within the property line of their home?

[thisgalliz]

Guys. Skybreakers and windrunners having basic lashings means something incredible that I just realized.

People can touch black holes. And maybe survive.

Idk if lashings change in strength to match the gravity, but assuming they do a windrunner or skybreaker could just do a half lashing away from a black hole and just go touch it and then come back. Like you could go into the event horizon and return. Because your body basically isn't experiencing gravity.

[blindradiant]

You know, I bet the highspren are so smug about not being effected by the Recreance. As far as I know, there has never been a highspren deadeye. I bet they have such a superiority complex about that 

[sorchasolas]

Im doing this super stupid thing where i combine two(eventually maybe three?) knight radiant glyphs into one glyph

So, behold:

Truthdancer & Windbreaker

i can and WILL make more. Recommendations are encouraged.

[donphanmortadella]

The more I read Wind and Truth, the more my opinion solidifies that the Skybreakers are just the worst and dumbest order of Radiants. This could change if I get further into the book though lol.

[dallywagdoodles]

I have been delaying posting this drawing for so long because I was so nervous to post it. I absolutely love this sketch and being that I have nothing new that I'm happy with to put out into the world I figured, might as well.

Glitch knew what they were doing making that v opening so low.

[theskyweshare]

Moash should be a shybreaker. (And not cause of justice is blind thing. His blindness should just be blindness. An injury not a punishment)

Teft was although a friend. Was an enemy combatant.

Yes he is vindictive. His greatest flaw is that he is gullible. He is loyal until he isn't.

And he seems to get betrayed by every ideal he swear.

But in the end. He didn't, as much got betrayed by people, as much as he got betrayed by the institution.

There was simply nothing he could do once the law was thrown out the window. And vengeance is just another face of justice.

So having him as a skybreaker who is devoted to an ideal and at the end becoming law itself seems a better arc. And having been on side of the vengeance he can judge better. And unlike nale, Moah isn't a machine. He wants to be but he isn't. He understands compassion and forgiveness.

He is one of my favorite characters. It would be interesting to see whom he chooses as his third ideal.

Alternatively.

He can be an awakened radiant (corrupted) As he is shunned by both human and singer. Seems like he would fit within the awakened truthwatchers. And purely cause it be funny. He hated renarin. Or hated the idea of him.

But renarin is such a sunshine boy if anyone can make moash see past his hateded its renarin.

He should not be dead. He should live and learn and grow and grow old.

Not as a cautionary tale but as a reminder that we can make better choices.

[somewhere-south-of-neutral]

Skybreakers after the Recreance

You’re an oath-keeper, your god will whisper you the names of those paladins who have broken their oaths, and you slay them. But you awoke at night to an incomprehensibly long list of names, after an hour it said “ fuck it, all the paladins have broken their oath, slay them all”

[wyndlerunner]

“This emotion is unfitting of your station,” the spren said, audible and visible only to him. “Do not spoil your dignity with base sentimentality. You serve the law.”

I suspect that being a Skybreaker might be actively detrimental to Szeth’s mental health and PTSD

[duckngk]

szeth and lift the greatest besties + him just being the Troubled Guy that he is

[kingjasnah]

szeth backstory on the brain fr one of my fave characters in the series for how weird he is. i spent years of my life reading these books and speculating why szeth was named truthless like i assumed it was for an attempted assassination or just spreading the wrong kind of truth but actually getting to wind and truth and learning like. no he almost overthrew the entire system in shinovar. he led a genuine military revolution of the church. it was a doomed effort but it wasn't like he didn't get very close to actually doing it. i am so fascinated by characters whose main characteristic is pure conviction but learning that he's been like that for literally his entire life.....

[theskyweshare]

He enjoys using the power. His story is about the struggle between who he is and who he wants to be and who he is taught to be. In regards to his powers he's more like adolin.

He enjoys being powerful then hates himself for that enjoyment.

He has opinions and rage but he tries to be passionless cause he thinks it's the right way.

He's just a small wet meow meow.

szeth is all like "I hate killing people. I hate myself for killing people. Why must I kill people all the time" and then every time he fights it's the most elaborate fight scene ever. There is ONE GUARD and he lashes him upwards, binds him to the ceiling, puts his own spear under him, and then waits for the lashing to run out so the guard falls down and is impaled. and every fight scene is like that. if you think murder is morally wrong why did you do that to him

[blindradiant]

I think it’s interesting that the Skybreakers are the only order of Radiant that we know all five Ideals for. It seems like most, if not all of the other orders have to discover things as they go, but the Skybreakers have it mostly worked out, with *some* room for individual choice

The First Ideal for Skybreakers is the generic “Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination.” They call it the Ideal of Radiance

The Second Ideal is the Ideal of Justice. In Szeth’s words, it’s “I swear to seek justice, to let it guide me, until I find a more perfect Ideal.”

The Third Ideal is the Ideal of Law. This is the one Skybreakers have to follow until and unless they swear the Fifth Ideal. I’m not sure what happens if the thing a Skybreaker chooses as their Third Ideal fails before they swear the Fifth, but something Szeth says in RoW makes me think that they’d have to find something else to follow so their Nahel bond isn’t broken. Then again, Szeth’s interpretation might not be accurate, especially since he holds so strongly to rules/codes/Ideals he’s latched onto. Either way, the Skybreaker Third Ideal according to Szeth is “I swear to follow the will of Dalinar Kholin. This is my oath.” We see him grapple with that more in his RoW interlude

The Skybreaker Fourth Ideal is the Ideal of Crusade. This is where they pick a larger goal to attain, and they can only accomplish it if their spren is satisfied. For Szeth, the Fourth Ideal is “I will cleanse the Shin of their false leaders, so long as Dalinar Kholin agrees.”

Again, this is where Skybreakers are different than other Radiants we’ve seen so far. For example, Windrunners don’t know the gist of their Fourth Ideal until they’re forced against it, if Kaladin is a fairly accurate example. Skybreakers know the *idea* of what their Fourth Ideal will be, even if the *details* take form over time. I also think it’s super interesting that they can state what their Fourth Ideal will be in advance, even if it takes months, years, or even decades to accomplish whatever goal they set for themselves. In OB chapter 90, a Skybreaker Master says that they were at the Third Ideal for two decades before attaining the Fourth.

And the Fifth Ideal for the Skybreakers is the Ideal of Law. This is where the Skybreaker becomes law and Truth. Nale is the only example we have in modern times of a Skybreaker who has sworn that Ideal, and his situation is complicated, since he’s a Herald. Even in OB chapter 90, though, a Skybreaker master says that it’s been centuries since a member of their order reached the Fifth Ideal. I don’t know if Nale was the last, or if there have been a few since he reached the Fifth Ideal.

Szeth hasn’t sworn the Fifth Ideal as a Skybreaker. I theorize that he will swear it at some point, partially because it fits so well with a previous headcanon of mine. I also think it’d be super meaningful/impactful for Szeth to swear an Ideal that allows him to make his own decisions/enforce his own will. In OB chapter 106, Nale tells Szeth that he’s the first in a new order of Skybreakers. There has to be some kind of significance to that, but we don’t have all the pieces yet. Nale didn’t prevent Szeth from joining Dalinar and the Coalition after the Battle of Thaylen Field, and I wonder if that was intentional.

If one Radiant swears the Fifth Ideal in KoWT, it *might* be Szeth. I do want him to reach that point eventually, but I also worry that it could feel rushed in KoWT, especially since he said the first Three Ideals so quickly (he said the first two Ideals on the same day, and the Third like a month later lol)

I think I got off track from my original point. This post definitely ended up being longer than I thought it would.

Tl,dr. Skybreakers are unique as far as I can tell/remember, and the fact that their Ideals are broadly laid out ahead of time makes for some interesting possibilities. And I also included Szethposting, because of course I did

[shakesthewizard]

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