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snakeoilpictures · 1 year ago
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-DEEP BREATH-
Destiel. Is. Not. Canon.
When there are literally 15 seasons and 325/327 episodes that have down right not even acknowledged the depths of their relationship aside from "I'm the one who reached down and pulled you from perdition" shit.
Dean and Castiel are toxic to one another. Dean thinks the entire world revolves around him and Castiel thinks he keeps making the right decisions when he fucks up literally everything he touches. Also he seems to forget he's an angel half the fucking time and gets thrown across the room by a goddamn werewolf like he's a cum rag.
Sure, Castiel may have been crushing on Dean hard (but also that's because Misha Collins has no boundaries and continually sexualizes Jensen Ackles in panels and touches him inappropriately) but it was not reciprocated.
Yeah, maybe they acknowledged it in the musical episode, and how did Dean react? With disgust.
The SPN writers also failed the entire fandom.... BY LISTENING TO THE FANDOM.
Sometimes, fan service will absolutely destroy a series. Actually, most of the time. Castiel was supposed to die at the end of season 5 but because the fans loved him so much, they kept him in. The show was supposed to END on season 5, which would have been a perfect ending... I mean, how can you top Lucifer versus Michael and the apocalypse?
Borax and leviathans, that's how. -DIES-
They then continued to bring back every character who had ever died and made us feel something in their deaths... which in turn, cheapened everything. For fan service.
They made Chuck the big bad guy, even though it literally makes no sense and the Chuck in season 5 that vouched for the boys' "Free Will" was not the same Chuck that was so wholeheartedly against it he destroyed worlds. Fan service.
Then, at the very end of Castiel's appearances, he confesses to Dean he loves him. Dean says nothing. Destiel fans everywhere just DIE.
And there is literally nothing in the world to back it up.
For fan service.
Destiel is not canon. I don't care. You won't change my mind and Misha Collins continually sexualizing his coworker is just weird and would get someone sent to HR in every other environment, but the whole fandom supports him cause "GAAAAY" like, no. There are plenty of gay ships that are consensual and NOT TOXIC and they're much more sexy. Destiel was dredged in fan service, battered in digging at the bottom of the barrel, and fried in Misha Collins' wet dream.
Jensen is a dick too and don't even get me started on how he treated Jared.
TLDR; Misha is a creep. Jensen is a dickhead. Destiel is NOT canon.
Supernatural ran itself into the ground and is the perfect example of how a fandom can ruin a series.
okay wait ive never watched supernatural but is destiel canon?
i wish there were an easy answer to this question
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miraculouslbcnreactions · 1 year ago
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Five Ways SentiAdrien is a Retcon
Adrien’s a sentimonster now, but he wasn’t always. Here’s a list of things that wouldn’t have happened if Adrien was a sentimonster:
Chat Blanc
Epehemeral shows us what happens in a world where Gabriel Agreste learns his sentison’s identity. Chat Blanc shows us what happens in a world where Gabriel Agreste learns his human son’s identity. If Adrien was a sentimonster in season 3, then Chat Blanc would have ended with Gabriel winning just like he did in Ephemeral. But it doesn’t because season 3 Adrien was a real boy.
Gorizilla
Nooroo: Master, you don't really think Adrien could be Cat Noir?
Gabriel: I don't know. But he's hiding something for sure. Since his bodyguard has failed to keep an eye on Adrien, there's only one way for us to uncover his secret.
Yeah, put on one of the slave collars and say, “Adrien, tell me what you’re hiding from me?” Problem solved! Except Adrien wasn’t a sentimonster yet, so Gabe had to use an akuma instead.
Felix
As of season 4, Felix and Amilie know that the Agrete’s wedding rings are amoks, so why were they so obsessed with getting their hands on them back in season 3? What were they planning to do with Adrien? Why did Amilie think that was a reasonable request? There’s no way that she’d hand over her son’s ring! Easy answer: the twins cousins weren’t sentimonster yet and the rings weren’t that special. That’s why that plot goes nowhere and why Felix’s actions don’t match his actions after they decided that the boys were sentimonsters.
Origins
Adrien keeps sneaking out of the house to go to school and Gabe just yells at him, never using the slave collars. Plausible, I guess, but still hard to buy given how controlling he is. Why wouldn’t he use one of the rings? He already doesn’t care what Adrien wants and Gabe does not get meaningfully more controlling as the show goes on (it’s part of why season 5 completely fails to make him feel worse in my book).
Miracular
Cataclysms drive Sentimonsters insane, but kill humans, so Chat Noir probably should have gone insane here. Along similar lines, the fact that akuma powers work on him like a normal human is super weird because Adrien isn’t a true human. Can he break his bones? Does he even need to transform to fight? Do all sentimonsters have the ability to use miraculous? I have questions that this show will never answer because the answers don’t exist. That would require competent, well-thought-out lore.
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deangril · 3 days ago
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Hello, Dean
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hellinhawkins · 2 months ago
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i’m honestly really excited to see how rovickie plays out next season
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pass3ra · 5 months ago
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cressida's storyline was genuinely shameful tbhhh it's like they started rewriting it in the first half of the season then completely forgot about the changes they'd made to make it fit the book plot and it just ends up making everyone else look bad😐 every character in the second half got a "penelope did nothing wrong" lobotomy so we ended up with eloise completely ignoring cressida being sold off to an horrible man (when she made every effort to support her in the first half of the season) and for some reason resenting her for pretending to be lady whistledown? Then they somehow frame her ignoring colin's offensively bad pleas as it being her turning away from redemption when all she's trying to do is escape being trapped in the country with her likely abusive aunt... and it ends with her meeting her horrible fate and it still being framed as tragic only to immediately juxtapose it with the bridgerton family winning the idgaf war while gleefully seeing off francesca and her future dead husband. The bridgertons were the villains of the season frfr
#bridgerton#almost as bad as marina's plot in season one. every horrible decision in this show revolves around penelope meeting no consequences ever#this is not an anti post or anything idc about the fandom ill forget about this show tomorrow but i need to get this off my chest#they had to give penelope a fairy tale ending WHICH IS FINE but they somehow did it by surgically removing everyone's personality#INCLUDING HERS#benedict's bi storyline was bad also im sorry. paul literally has like 4 lines of dialogue and he was really cool#i love tilley but she should have been cut😭 if they wanted to establish he was bi (given we know theyre not genderbending sophie)#they should have made the whole subplot about him being attracted to a man instead of a 5 minute footnote in the last episode#i liked francesca and her husband whose name idr but it felt like they were framing it as him not being her 'great love'#considering what happens to him i fjnd it childish and meanspirited soul mates aren't real and he deserves a lttl respect considering.. lmao#what else. the dialogues were horrible. especially the ones between penelope and colin in the second part im sorry#they need to fire the make up and hair department. every reference to queen charlotte felt like a wahh pls watch my show ad#i miss anthony they should change the books to make him the villain of every season bb please come back to ruin your sibilings relationships#portia and philippa were peak as always. violet deserves her own season. we need to put eloise out of her misery pls leave her in scotland#rant overrr#publishing it on my sideblog actually i feel like im gonna lose followers just for having watched this show lmaoo
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rotzaprachim · 4 months ago
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shows which were cancelled before their time and I will never stop being angry about: the get down, bbc class, timeless, sense8, 1899
shows which I think had a decent run or did tell their story well but really wish at more people knew about because they are criminally underrated: bad sisters (only meant to be one season), station eleven (ditto and soooo good), good behavior (only two seasons but where it went in those two seasons…)
shows with decent early seasons which ought to have been put down seasons before they ended from sheer mercy: supernatural, élite, la casa de papel, misfits
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hunterevie · 4 months ago
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I should have written more endverse stories because this was actually a fun one to explore.
And the ending was so soft when I revisited it 🥺
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krystaldeath · 3 months ago
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//lmk season 5 spoilers
So like. We all agree that the Teal Dragon and the White Tiger were gay right? Like they were partners?
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doerot · 2 months ago
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Many such cases of adding a third fucked up guy into the mix to make me actually interested in a ship
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cosettegf · 4 months ago
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i love the penumbra podcast and i love second citadel and i really enjoyed listening to the finale but i feel. weird about the way this show treats its female characters???
#as in... in a show that prides itself on defying gender boundaries and heteronormativity it still seems to frequently push its female and#genderfluid characters to the side? and ik it can't really be called bury your gays in a podcast where most of the characters are queer#(and i also do think it is important for a narrative to give character the endings that make sense rather than prioritising keeping alive#those who weren't meant to live past the end of the story so i'm not necessarily saying that it's sexist#or that caroline and quanyii should have lived for the mere fact of them being second citadel's only lesbian characters)#but it still does feel off somehow? i don't feel that it's easy to say that they were used as a vessel through which to keep the other#characters alive but i just ?????? i don't know if this is something that anyone else feels? i love tragedy in fiction but it just feels#as if this doesnt mean anything...i can see in part how their character arcs were complete but they deserved to have their happy ending and#rather than feeling the devastation of tragedy after having listened to this episode i only feel mild frustration that they weren't able to#live to see the world that they helped save? i think i will have to think of it as a once and future king thing where when olala rises so#too will caroline#i have had complicated feelings about this whole podcast for the last season or so but i can't tell if it is genuinely the podcast or if it#is just the fact that i dont need it as much as i used to and that my love for it hasnt lessened that instead my heart has just grown#bigger around it#so maybe im completely off base with this and that its just an extension of my weird feelings about almost all of season 5 in general but#hmm#also i did not care for caroline that much through the best part of this podcast so its not as though i am annoyed about her dying because#i loved her so much because honestly i didn't love her as much as i wanted to (or as much as i loved olala and quanyii and rilla)#and also!!! it was nice that they were able to be together and have closure!!!! i think it was well done in a general sense i just ???#i can't articulate it any clearer than this#second citadel#tpp#tpp spoilers#the penumbra podcast#the penumbra podcast spoilers
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the-lesbian-orpheus · 15 days ago
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ONLY ONE??? WHAT DO YOU MEAN ONLY ONE 😭
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rainingongallifrey · 4 months ago
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I am going to say this as calmly as I can
@foreverautumn89
I AM SO MAD ALREADY AT THE DUFFERS AND S5 HASN"T EVEN STARTED. BECAUSE HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO SEE JARGYLE VS STONATAN OR JARGYLE VS JANCY WITHOUT ARGYLE THERE> WHAT DO THEY EXPECT US TO BELIEVE THAT ARGYLE COULD JUST GO BACK TO CALIFORNIA WITH THE GOVERMENT AFTER HIM? AND THAT HE JUST STOPPED LOVING JONATHAN AND DOESN"T CARE ABOUT TAKING CARE OF HIM AND WAITING ON JONATHAN"S PRINCESS ASS HAND AND FOOT ANYMORE LIKE HE WAS DOING IN S4? ALL ARGYLE DID WAS TAKE CARE OF JONATHAN AND LOVE AND SUPPORT HIM AND NOW THAT JUST STOPS? AND JONATHAN WAS HIS ONLY FRIEND SO NOW ARGYLE HAS NO ONE? ARGYLE JUST STOPPED BEING IN LOVE WITH HIM AND MAKING HIS ENTIRE PURPOSE REVOLVE AROUND LOVING JONATHAN. HEWENT BACK TO CALIFORNIA TO BATTLE THE GOVERMENT BY HIMSELF? IS THAT WHAT WE"RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE? ACTUALLY THAT DOES SOUND LIKE SOMETHING AWESOME THAT ARGYLE WOULD DO BUT THATS NOT THE POINT. THIS IS BS. WHAT IS EVEN THE POINT NOW? THAT DEBATE ALSO RELIED ON JARGYLE BEING PART OF THE EQUATION BUT NO THEY HAVE TO MESS THINGS UP BEFORE IT EVEN STARTS. JARGYLE WON THE DEBATE AND HOW IS THAT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN NOW WITH ARGYLE GONE.
PS I miss those debates too. We also need Jommy vs Stonathan or two of the other Jonathan ships. I want to do one with Samantha/Jonathan vs whichever ship but we didn't get to know Samantha or see her relationship with Jonathan unfold either. Another thing they messed up. Sorry about the rant just so annoyed and disappointed about no Argyle//Jargyle
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seasononesam · 6 months ago
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why does swan song make me so depressed I'm like omg it's ending :( ...as if it doesn't go on for another TEN YEARS pls 😭
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vibinsane · 4 months ago
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opinions on fyodor? (the fictional terrorist one)
man is fucking unhinged, cunning and just.. even as a dazai kinnie, my gods does fyodor also seem so interesting
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leonardalphachurch · 1 year ago
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i cannot fucking wait for this show to be over so i never have to think about this shitty company ever again
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sskk-manifesto · 2 days ago
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#God this episode is so so good.#Tachihara sweetie I'm sorry I never talk about you. I swear I love him so so much he's an amazing character. I love his story and conflict–#so much.#This arc is peak bsd writing / meta literature plot. The tearing page moment is insane. The sentiments expressed here are so–#deep and emotional. The theme of the ordinary man. God and the force of human spirit.#Fighting against one's own destiny and finding the reason for own's existence. It's all subjects that are so interesting to reflect over–#and they're elaborated on in such a cool and compelling way. I love Dazai's quote on the strength of humans who–#“are caught in the tempest of contingency and scream‚ run and shed blood” so much. It moves me deeply.#The animation was really neat. A lot of detailed sequences. The wind was animated beautifully. The colors were so pretty and the stained–#glass visuals still go so hard.#Again I love Tachihara's conflict so much!!! I'm so into tachi/gin too... I know it's more of a Tachihara x oc since. Well.#We know little to nothing about Gin. But there's still so much spice to it... What do you MEAN Tachihara stabbed Gin !!!!!!#I'm so into the drama. AND the kind of relationship born from the big brother complex™ they both (may) share. AND the work partners.#AND the hiding their true identities to the other. How could I not love them...#Still believe season 4 should have ended where episode 11 ends but spreading it all in 12 episodes to allow it all better pacing.#I really think this season is great but the pacing really is its weakest point.#Of the sky casino arc they could have made a movie if they wanted to. Or just a cool arc at the start of season 5 that can work too!!#(((and not put ch 84-88 at only ep3. And then animate it grossly. But that's another talk.)))#Anyways 100000/10 what a good episode. This really was peak B/ungou Stray Dogs. And Akutagawa isn't even in it!!!#random rambles#Very hot take but I don't think Lucy should jump off a sky casino for a man. Sorry#My feelings for atsu/lucy are so fluctuating. I could write a whole other tags rant on it.#Actually I will
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