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S2 E21 | All Hell Breaks Loose: Part I
#he never wanted to be special#they never gave him a choice#said it was all about him#that it had to be him#(if only he wasn't who he was)#(if only he wasn't what he was)#this struck me so much harder this watch for some reason#sam and bodily autonomy#sam and grooming#sam winchester#azazel#sam and the yed#spn gifs#cw csa themes#myspnedits
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You poisoned me.
Supernatural S2E21 All Hell Breaks Loose: Part One S3E15 Time Is on My Side // S4E14 Sex and Violence S5E02 Good God, Y'all S5E03 Free to Be You and Me S7E08 Season Seven, Time for a Wedding! S7E17 The Born-Again Identity
#honestly I don't trust people who don't talk enough about sam's lack of bodily autonomy#sam winchester#spn 2x21#spn 3x15#spn 4x14#spn 5x02#spn 5x03#spn 7x08#spn 7x17#s2#s3#s4#s5#s7#gifs#sam and autonomy
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If A Body Catch a Body
- little remake of an old graphic (the bottom image is the same but I always hated the top one in the old version, I like this much better)
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“sam doesn’t care about dean!” he literally offers dean to use his body as a punching bag every time dean’s angry because he knows violence is the only way for dean to get some relief and sam doesn’t want him to keep all that grief & anger in so he’s always willing to take dean’s fists and even urges him to lash out. it is about caring for dean and making him feel better!
#also knowing sam’s history with his bodily autonomy#the fact that he willingly lets (and even welcomes it) dean be violent towards him physically means a lot#sam winchester#wincest#samdean#spn
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Day Six (May 1st): Autonomy / Abuse / Trauma "The Rest" by Jane Huffman // 01x01 / 05x22 / 09x10 / 13x21
#samweek2024#day 6!!#(I did two for this day because I'm insane)#(also because these prompts were all so good and SOO loaded)#I love love love this poem#sam winchester#sam & bodily autonomy#my compounds#sw
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Why Being Manipulated into Letting Gadreel in a Huge Deal for Sam?
I know a lot of Dean Girls were very upset (and will be upset after reading this post) with Sam when Dean asked him if the roles were reversed if he would have done the same thing (letting an angel possess him to save his life). Sam simply says no! Some fans have gone to the extent of calling him selfish but no, Sam is not being selfish in that scene. It wasn't that he didn't care about his brother. He really does and that is why him saying no is actually a good thing.
Now see, Dean never had to go through the whole loss of bodily autonomy due to a possession issue (not until after he was possessed by Michael but that's way after the Gadreel plot) like Sam has been and disturbingly a lot more number of times than Dean's single rodeo with Otherworld Michael (or is it AU Michael? whatever!). Just to keep the argument simple, I am purely focusing on the loss of bodily autonomy purely from a possession POV.
When Meg possessed Sam in S2, she used his body to kill other hunters, to assault Jo and to beat Dean. Maybe she did a lot worse than that, we don't know. Who is left with the trauma of that knowledge? Sam!
The Gary-Sam body swap. This one though seems funny on the surface, it's actually kinda disturbing because Gary used Sam's body to have sex and the kid. Kinda gross enough already but that dumb kid could have easily handed over the vessel to Lucifer. Imagine, that's how it played and Sam was back into his body. Now who is trapped with Lucifer, the Devil? Sam!
Speaking of, understandably saying yes to Lucifer was Sam's call to put him back in the box but it didn't go down without blood on his hand. The moment Lucifer took control of Sam's body, he killed the demons from Sam's life that deceived him. I am guessing these were possessed people he killed in the process and not just wisps of black smoke. At Stull cemetery, he exploded Cas to bits, snapped Bobby's neck and beat up Dean to pulp! all by whose hands? Sam's!
Gadreel's possession did help Sam get better but at what cost? Kevin's death? How many nightmares did Sam have seeing his hands burning Kevin hollow? Now let me point out the aftermath of this possession which is somehow even worse than the actual possession: Crowley skewered Sam's brains with needles, hell, he even possessed Sam to wake him as if one possession was not enough. Sam literally had two supernatural beings possessing him at one time! Don't even get me started on the painful, torturous grace extraction process. Sam was willing to die in that moment because he believed his life wasn't worth saving, definitely not at the cost of Kevin's life!
Before this role reversal scene, Dean wasn't possessed by anything, so he doesn't understand how horrible it is to lose autonomy over one's mind and body. I don't expect him to grasp the gravity of it. He sees it as a healing from within. For him, if 'ends justifying the means' that's all that matters.
When every single possession has caused nothing but grave trauma to Sam Winchester, tell me why would he or anyone for that matter, in their sane heads do this on their own brother, especially when they love them so much?
Here's another very real life perspective for all those who feel Sam saying 'no' if the situation was reversed was a horrible betrayal and proof that he doesn't love Dean enough: Ever had someone you love on life support or gone through a situation where you had to put down your beloved pet? Why do we do this? is it because we don't love them? because we don't care? no! Because sometimes, it is better to let them go than to prolong their suffering by putting them through this pain. So next time you feel Sam was being selfish, or disloyal to Dean or that he didn't care enough, think about a loved one suffering through something horrible because you didn't have the guts to let go!
#sam winchester#loss of bodily autonomy#sam's agency#dean winchester#sometimes it is better to let go than to hold on#possession#sam's possession#supernatural#spn#sam girl
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spn 7x15 was truly crazy. having the resurgence of the narrative showing us sam’s hallucinations of lucifer in the same episode where we see ex-vessel of a demon, his entire life wrecked by the possession, completely obsessed & in stockholm syndrome-y love w the demon that possessed him. i want to analyse this episode scene by scene. who wrote this one. what did they mean by it
#such an upsetting episode for sammy. him framing his worsening breakdowns as him ‘letting lucifer in’#him framing his worsening hallucinations as him having ‘let lucifer in’. hallucifer saying ‘you wanted it’.#supernatural is such a crazy show because it’s like so thoughtful and deep and interesting sometimes and then like half the time it’s like.#right let’s never touch on this again#i guess it’s what happens to an extent when u have diff writers all the time#one ep is like Haha funny sam has no bodily autonomy🤣🤣and the other ep is like#detailed but metaphorical examination of the trauma of being assaulted and the havoc it wreaks on ur mind#oliver talks#sam winchester#spn#spn 7x15
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Thinking about Sam and how central autonomy and violation is to his character. How many times and ways he had his choice taken away throughout the series. All the things we don’t know about his time with Lucifer, but are also so heavily implied that we do.
Imagining he eventually gets out of The Life and becomes a victim’s advocate. He ultimately decides not to try and pursue law school at this stage in his life—it’s been so long and so much has changed—but finishes his bachelor’s and pursues a master’s in social work. He never expected to end up here: the boy with the demon blood, no longer living out some doomed and twisted fate, helping people. He’s passionate about representing those made most vulnerable and unsafe in their own skin, supporting others as they come out the other side survivors, lending the compassion he’s always struggled to have for himself. Every time he listens to someone else’s story, helps connect them to resources, advocates for their case, he heals a little bit too.
#just thinking my little thoughts#sam winchester#supernatural#bodily autonomy#tw sa implied#cw sa implied#idk the best way to tag this?? just vague passing thoughts but I don’t want to trigger anyone so#sam posting#i just think it would be a fitting job for him#one of many great options#but i think he would find this fulfilling. and depending on why you think he was pre-law it would give him similar space to represent people#even if not in a court room#though who knows what type of law he planned to practice#I really think the show dropped the ball on exploring this particular facet of Sam’s trauma#they kept hitting the nail on the head with the autonomy theme and it *being the trauma*#but not enough follow through on Sam’s emotional damage™️ aside from tasty morsels here and there#sammy#<- for my own tagging system
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I might be an idiot but sam and dean didn't share a heaven, right??? like I thought that it was very central to the episode that their heavens were complete opposites???
#also bodily autonomy is a very central theme to the show so wouldn't soulmates be a bad thing canonically?#at least to dean who would hate to have his love life predetermined like the rest of his life?#dean winchester#sam winchester#supernatural#spn#sorry I just saw someone claiming that they did and now im questioning myself
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a study on the seductive nature of fate ; regarding jessica moore + lucifer + sam winchester
helen oyeyemi, “white is for witching” / katy perry, thinking of you / lisa marie basile, from andalucia / postcolonial love poem, natalie diaz / somatoparaphrenia, lennelle
#sam winchester#samjess#jessica moore#lucifer!sam#lucifer#bodily autonomy#spn#samwinchesteredit#webweaving#spnedit#spncreatorsdaily#spn web weaving#anyway ive never done a webweave before. i just think katy perry's lyrics made me start having a fucking aneurysm#prophet's creations
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In ten years I need to swing by your house for a little something, that's all.
“Ptolemaea” by Ethel Cain / Supernatural (2005-2011)
#this is why 'sweet mourning lamb' is my samtag btw#spnedit#supernaturaledit#samwinchesteredit#ethelnatural#sam winchester#maven edits#mine#sweet mourning lamb#sam + fate#sam + bodily autonomy
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Bitches will be like "i'm fighting demons" and it's literally Sam Reid in a half up half down look
#its me im bitches#I'm all for bodily autonomy but that man should be forced by law to never cut his pretty hair#interview with the vampire amc#sam reid#lestat de lioncourt#iwtv amc#iwtv#interview with the vampire
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text from an original poem <3 // 12x02 / 02x21 / 09x09 / 05x22
#I originally wrote this poem about being disabled#but my guy sam can also have it <3#sam winchester#sam winchester & bodily autonomy#also the last two shots make my film brain SO happyy#supernatural#sw#my compounds
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Super cute of Dean to give permission to an angel and a demon to possess his younger brother. Then, instead of apologizing, he began talking about how much people are hurt when they are around him.
Super adorable how he didn’t even let Sam get his frustrations out or even really talk the situation through. Super sweet how he immediately turned the situation around to be a Dean moment.
#i get dean is complicated and all#but like#please for the love of god LET SAM HAVE FEELINGS#it literally went from#oh sam got his bodily autonomy taken away again#damn that for sure will leave a mark or his mental health#especially considering the fragile#borderline suicidal state he was in before#and then it went to#woe is me#i am dean winchester#i hurt everything i touch#look at how much IM struggling in this situation#like :( cmon#gimme a sam centric scene#supernatural#sam winchester#spn#castiel#please talk to me about supernatural#dean winchester#sastiel#destiel
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Alright soooo the winner of what color Sam should have dyed his hair after Gadreel was PURPLE!!
Black was a second, and red was a close third (blonde was also brought up in the tags)
I'll add the concensus answer to this post of mine
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