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Darius never gives up
#darius tanz#salvation#santiago cabrera#cbs salvation#salvation cbs#tanz tuesday#salvation season 2#it's not over till it's over#it ain't over till it's over#salvation 2x01#salvation 2x13
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kripke: show creator; seasons 1-5 showrunner; wrote or co-wrote 1x01 pilot, 1x02 wendigo, 1x09 home, 1x16 shadow, 1x22 devil’s trap, 2x01 in my time of dying, 2x22 all hell breaks loose part two, 3x01 the magnificent seven, 3x16 no rest for the wicked, 4x01 lazarus rising, 4x07 it's the great pumpkin, sam winchester, 4x10 heaven and hell (story), 4x22 lucifer rising, 5x01 sympathy for the devil, 5x09 the real ghostbusters, 5x22 swan song, 6x22 the man who knew too much; directed 2x20 what is and what should never be, 4x22 lucifer rising
gamble: seasons 6-7 showrunner; wrote or co-wrote 1x03 dead in the water, 1x12 faith, 1x14 nightmare, 1x21 salvation, 2x03 bloodlust, 2x08 crossroad blues, 2x13 houses of the holy, 2x17 heart, 2x21 all hell breaks loose part one, 3x02 the kids are alright, 3x07 fresh blood, 3x10 dream a little dream of me, 3x12 jus in bello, 3x15 time is on my side, 4x02 are you there god? it’s me, dean winchester, 4x09 i know what you did last summer, 4x17 it’s a terrible life, 4x21 when the levee breaks, 5x02 good god, y'all, 5x07 the curious case of dean winchester, 5x13 the song remains the same, 5x21 two minutes to midnight, 6x01 exile on main st, 6x11 appointment in samarra, 6x21 let it bleed, 7x01 meet the new boss, 7x10 death's door, 7x17 the born-again identity, 7x23 survival of the fittest
edlund: wrote 2x05 simon said, 2x12 nightshifter, 2x18 hollywood babylon, 3x03 bad day at black rock, 3x09 malleus maleficarum, 3x13 ghostfacers, 4x05 monster movie, 4x08 wishful thinking, 4x16 on the head of a pin, 5x04 the end, 5x10 abandon all hope, 5x14 my bloody valentine, 5x20 the devil you know, 6x03 the third man, 6x09 clap your hands if you believe, 6x15 the french mistake, 6x20 the man who would be king, 7x02 hello cruel world, 7x09 how to win friends and influence monsters, 7x15 repo man, 7x21 reading is fundamental, 8x05 blood brother, 8x13 everybody hates hitler, 8x21 the great escapist; directed 6x20 the man who would be king, 7x21 reading is fundamental
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well if you compare 1x12 faith and 2x13 houses of the holy to 5x01 sympathy for the devil in the manner of dean having been "chosen" then you could come away with questions such as: why was dean chosen to live in faith? why did he jump to the front of the line before all the other believers who had been waiting for their turn to be healed?
roy le grange claims that dean was "picked" by god. his method of choosing is never quite revealed, its mechanisms overshadowed by his wife's more insidious schemes. the episode ends on a bitter note: that god is not healing people, and dean's atheism is more correct than sam's faith.
however, this axis begins to flip in 2x13, when dean does concede to the possibility that some cosmic force is moving pieces on a higher plane. the questions that were left unanswered in 1x12 are given proper attention here, and though definitive answers still elude them until season 4-5, the issues are no longer being ignored. and then zachariah tells dean he is chosen, destined to be the michael sword. it recalls, then, the episode so long ago when roy le grange told dean that god "picked" him. and because of that interaction, dean remains alive to fulfill his destiny.
so you have to wonder—was dean's salvation a coincidence, or was a higher power truly whispering in roy's ear? 2x13 makes a strong defense of the latter being true. if an unseen force can tell father gregory who deserves to live and who deserves to die, that same force can equally tell the faith healer speaking the gospel in his tent. and if this is true, if it was god or the angels dictating who roy should save, then that calls into question the moral character of the angels, nearly four seasons before they even appear. if the angels are willingly guiding roy's hand, then they are complicit in the use of reapers to kill those his wife deemed deserving of death. they are complicit or even accepting of her victims, and therefore they are taking a moral stance by not intervening and by enabling the continued abuse of power.
like, surely the angels wouldn't care who is sacrificed to save dean's life, him being michael's vessel, but there are countless others who died as a result of roy's healing. anyway, there's no real point to be made here, but i do like the retroactive reading the show enables that roy truly was guided by the angels or even by god. it sinks dean into the grips of his own destiny far before that destiny is even revealed (first in season 2, then again in season 5) and situates him as a true deuteragonist alongside sam, an egg waiting to be hatched but no less important than sam and his quest. it's just a bit interesting, is all.
#supernatural#spn1.12#spn2.13#spn5.01#spn1#spn2#spn5#spn posting#no big revelations or anything. just something i personally find interesting#angels are dickbags we been knew. and such#mmm dean's angel alignment vs sam's demon alignment is soooo hot 🤤#.txt
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justice for sam
If the spnepisodebracket craze has shown us anything, it's that the supernatural fanbase is extremely divided, with the lowly sam stan seemingly at the bottom of the pile. sam is always last in polls, so this is a bracket for the 10% or so who always votes for him. because yeah, there's 327 episodes of Supernatural, but how many are popular because of a dean or destiel moment? how many good episodes are drowned out because they focus on sam?
i've chosen, with some crowdsourced peer review (special thanks to @spneveryseason, @suncaptor, and @ambersock!) 125 episodes that are Sam Relevant. Some are extremely sam-centric, some just have a shot where sam looks like he's being crucified that gives me brain worms -- i tried to be generous about it to keep a relatively even seasons distribution! matchups will be random and polls will last 24 hours each. in the tradition of @spnepisodebracket (who this is obviously inspired by and would not be possible without!) i'll try to rb a gifset for every episode in the poll!
a final note: no this is not that serious but the criteria for voting here should be how good the episode is as a SAM episode, not as anything else, so please vote accordingly! i am making this for people who actually enjoy sam and if that is not you, then this is not the poll for you!
with that out of the way, here is the compiled list of episodes! voting starts this sammy sunday, 3/26!
Season 1 Pilot (1x01) Bloody Mary (1x05) Home (1x09) Asylum (1x10) Scarecrow (1x11) Nightmare (1x14) Shadow (1x16) Provenance (1x19) Salvation (1x21) Devil's Trap (1x22) Season 2 Simon Said (2x05) Croatoan (2x09) Hunted (2x10) Playthings (2x11) Houses of the Holy (2x13) Born Under a Bad Sign (2x14) Heart (2x17) All Hell Breaks Loose Part 1 (2x21) All Hell Breaks Loose Part 2 (2x22) Season 3 Bad Day at Black Rock (3x03) A Very Supernatural Christmas (3x08) Mystery Spot (3x11) Jus In Bello (3x12) Time is On My Side (3x15) Season 4 Metamorphosis (4x04) It's the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester (4x07) I Know What You Did Last Summer (4x09) After School Special (4x13) On the Head of a Pin (4x16) It's a Terrible Life (4x17) Jump the Shark (4x19) When the Levee Breaks (4x21) Lucifer Rising (4x22) Season 5 Good God, Y'all! (5x02) Free to be You and Me (5x03) Changing Channels (5x08) Sam, Interrupted (5x11) Swap Meat (5x12) The Song Remains the Same (5x13) My Bloody Valentine (5x14) Dark Side of the Moon (5x16) 99 Problems (5x17) Two Minutes to Midnight (5x21) Swan Song (5x22) Season 6 Exile on Main St. (6x01) You Can't Handle the Truth (6x06) Family Matters (6x07) Clap Your Hands if You Believe (6x09) Caged Heat (6x10) Appointment in Samarra (6x11) Like a Virgin (6x12) Unforgiven (6x13) The French Mistake (6x15) The Man Who Knew Too Much (6x22) Season 7 Meet the New Boss (7x01) Hello, Cruel World (7x02) The Girl Next Door (7x03) Season 7, Time for a Wedding! (7x08) Plucky Pennywhistle's Magic Menagerie (7x14) Repo Man (7x15) Out with the Old (7x16) The Born-Again Identity (7x17) Season 8 We Need to Talk About Kevin (8x01) Hunteri Heroici (8x08) Trial and Error (8x14) Taxi Driver (8x19) Pac-Man Fever (8x20) The Great Escapist (8x21) Clip Show (8x21) Sacrifice (8x23) Season 9 Holy Terror (9x09) Road Trip (9x10) First Born (9x11) The Purge (9x13) Meta Fiction (9x18) Season 10 Black (10x01) Soul Survivor (10x03) Fan Fiction (10x05) Inside Man (10x17) Book of the Damned (10x18) The Werther Project (10x19) The Prisoner (10x22) Brother's Keeper (10x23) Season 11 Form and Void (11x02) Baby (11x04) Just My Imagination (11x08) Oh Brother Where Art Thou (11x09) The Devil in the Details (11x10) Into the Mystic (11x11) Ouroborus (11x14) Red Meat (11x17) Don't Call Me Shurley (11x20) Season 12 Keep Calm and Carry On (12x01) Mamma Mia (12x02) American Nightmare (12x04) Rock Never Dies (12x07) The Raid (12x14) Who We Are (12x22) Season 13 Lost and Found (13x01) Patience (13x03) The Big Empty (13x04) Various & Sundry Villains (13x12) A Most Holy Man (13x15) Funeralia (13x19) Beat the Devil (13x21) Exodus (13x22) Let the Good Times Roll (13x23) Season 14 Stranger in a Strange Land (14x01) Mint Condition (14x04) Nightmare Logic (14x05) Byzantium (14x08) Prophet and Loss (14x12) Lebanon (14x13) Peace of Mind (14x15) Game Night (14x17) Moriah (14x20) Season 15 Back and to the Future (15x01) Atomic Monsters (15x04) The Rupture (15x03) Golden Time (15x06) The Gamblers (15x11) Unity (15x17) Inherit the Earth (15x19) Finale: Carry On (15x20)
Edits: Bugs (1x08) will be added, polls will not be completely random bc im not doing this for science im doing this to see a good episode win and my randomizer pit when the levee breaks against swan song in round 1
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Supernatural Season Masterlist
Below are Supernatural Episodes
Season 1
1x1 - Pilot
1x2 - Wendigo
1x3 - Dead in the Water
1x4 - Phantom Traveler
1x5 - Bloody Mary
1x6 - Skin
1x7 - Hook Man
1x8 - Bugs
1x9 - Home
1x10 - Asylum
1x11 - Scarecrow
1x12 - Faith
1x13 - Route 666
1x14 - Nightmare
1x15 - The Benders
1x16 - Shadow
1x17 - Hell House
1x18 - Something Wicked
1x19 - Provenance
1x20 - Dead Man's Blood
1x21 - Salvation
1x22 - Devil's Trap
Season 2
2x1 - In My Time of Dying
2x2 - Everybody Loves a Clown
2x3 - Bloodlust
2x4 - Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things
2x5 - Simon Said
2x6 - No Exit
2x7 - The Usual Suspects
2x8 - Crossroad Blues
2x9 - Croatoan
2x10 - Hunted
2x11 - Playthings
2x12 - Nightshifter
2x13 - Houses of the Holy
2x14 - Born Under a Bad Sign
2x15 - Tall Tales
2x16 - Roadkill
2x17 - Heart
2x18 - Hollywood Babylon
2x19 - Folsom Prison Blues
2x20 - What Is and What Should Never Be
2x21 - All Hell Breaks Loose (Part 1)
2x22 - All Hell Breaks Loose (Part 2)
Season 3
3x1 - The Magnificent Seven
3x2 - The Kids Are Alright
3x3 - Bad Day at Black Rock
3x4 - Sin City
3x5 - Bedtime Stories
3x6 - Red Sky at Morning
3x7 - Fresh Blood
3x8 - A Very Supernatural Christmas
3x9 - Malleus Maleficarum
3x10 - Dream a Little Dream of Me
3x11 - Mystery Spot
3x12 - Jus in Bello
3x13 - Ghostfacers!
3x14 - Long-Distance Call
3x15 - Time Is On My Side
3x16 - No Rest for the Wicked
Season 4
4x1 - Lazarus Rising
4x2 - Are You There God? It's Me, Dean Winchester
4x3 - In the Beginning
4x4 - Metamorphosis
4x5 - Monster Movie
4x6 - Yellow Fever
4x7 - It's the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester
4x8 - Wishful Thinking
4x9 - I Know What You Did Last Summer
4x10 - Heaven and Hell
4x11 - Family Remains
4x12 - Criss Angel Is a Douche Bag
4x13 - After School Special
4x14 - Sex and Violence
4x15 - Death Takes a Holiday
4x16 - On the Head of a Pin
4x17 - It's a Terrible Life
4x18 - The Monster at the End of This Book
4x19 - Jump the Shark
4x20 - The Rapture
4x21 - When the Levee Breaks
4x22 - Lucifer Rising
Season 5
5x1 - Sympathy for the Devil
5x2 - Good God, Y'All!
5x3 - Free To Be You and Me
5x4 - The End
5x5 - Fallen Idols
5x6 - I Believe the Children Are Our Future
5x7 - The Curious Case of Dean Winchester
5x8 - Changing Channels
5x9 - The Real Ghostbusters
5x10 - Abandon All Hope
5x11 - Sam, Interrupted
5x12 - Swap Meat
5x13 - The Song Remains the Same
5x14 - My Bloody Valentine
5x15 - Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
5x16 - Dark Side of the Moon
5x17 - 99 Problems
5x18 - Point of No Return
5x19 - Hammer of the Gods
5x20 - The Devil You Know
5x21 - Two Minutes to Midnight
5x22 - Swan Song
Season 6
6x1 - Exile on Main St.
6x2 - Two and a Half Men
6x3 - The Third Man
6x4 - Weekend at Bobby's
6x5 - Live Free or Twihard
6x6 - You Can't Handle the Truth
6x7 - Family Matters
6x8 - All Dogs Go to Heaven
6x9 - Clap Your Hands If You Believe…
6x10 - Caged Heat
6x11 - Appointment in Samarra
6x12 - Like a Virgin
6x13 - Unforgiven
6x14 - Mannequin 3: The Reckoning
6x15 - The French Mistake
6x16 - And Then There Were None
6x17 - My Heart Will Go On
6x18 - Frontierland
6x19 - Mommy Dearest
6x20 - The Man Who Would Be King
6x21 - Let It Bleed
6x22 - The Man Who Knew Too Much
Season 7
7x1 - Meet the New Boss
7x2 - Hello, Cruel World
7x3 - The Girl Next Door
7x4 - Defending Your Life
7x5 - Shut Up, Dr. Phil
7x6 - Slash Fiction
7x7 - The Mentalists
7x8 - Season 7, Time for a Wedding!
7x9 - How to Win Friends and Influence Monsters
7x10 - Death's Door
7x11 - Adventures in Babysitting
7x12 - Time After Time
7x13 - The Slice Girls
7x14 - Plucky Pennywhistle's Magical Menagerie
7x15 - Repo Man
7x16 - Out With the Old
7x17 - The Born-Again Identity
7x18 - Party On, Garth
7x19 - Of Grave Importance
7x20 - The Girl With the Dungeons and Dragons Tattoo
7x21 - Reading Is Fundamental
7x22 - There Will Be Blood
7x23 - Survival of the Fittest
Season 8
8x1 - We Need to Talk About Kevin
8x2 - What's Up, Tiger Mommy?
8x3 - Heartache
8x4 - Bitten
8x5 - Blood Brother
8x6 - Southern Comfort
8x7 - A Little Slice of Kevin
8x8 - Hunteri Heroici
8x9 - Citizen Fang
8x10 - Torn and Frayed
8x11 - LARP and the Real Girl
8x12 - As Time Goes By
8x13 - Everybody Hates Hitler
8x14 - Trial and Error
8x15 - Man's Best Friend with Benefits
8x16 - Remember the Titans
8x17 - Goodbye Stranger
8x18 - Freaks and Geeks
8x19 - Taxi Driver
8x20 - Pac-Man Fever
8x21 - The Great Escapist
8x22 - Clip Show
8x23 - Sacrifice
Season 9
9x1 - I Think I'm Gonna Like It Here
9x2 - Devil May Care
9x3 - I'm No Angel
9x4 - Slumber Party
9x5 - Dog Dean Afternoon
9x6 - Heaven Can't Wait
9x7 - Bad Boys
9x8 - Rock and a Hard Place
9x9 - Holy Terror
9x10 - Road Trip
9x11 - First Born
9x12 - Sharp Teeth
9x13 - The Purge
9x14 - Captives
9x15 - #THINMAN
9x16 - Blade Runners
9x17 - Mother's Little Helper
9x18 - Meta Fiction
9x19 - Alex Annie Alexis Ann
9x20 - Bloodlines
9x21 - King of the Damned
9x22 - Stairway to Heaven
9x23 - Do You Believe in Miracles?
Season 10
10x1 - Black
10x2 - Reichenbach
10x3 - Soul Survivor
10x4 - Paper Moon
10x5 - Fan Fiction
10x6 - Ask Jeeves
10x7 - Girls, Girls, Girls
10x8 - Hibbing 911
10x9 - The Things We Left Behind
10x10 - The Hunter Games
10x11 - There's No Place Like Home
10x12 - About a Boy
10x13 - Halt & Catch Fire
10x14 - The Executioner's Song
10x15 - The Things They Carried
10x16 - Paint It Black
10x17 - Inside Man
10x18 - Book of the Damned
10x19 - The Werther Project
10x20 - Angel Heart
10x21 - Dark Dynasty
10x22 - The Prisoner
10x23 - Brother's Keeper
Season 11
11x1 - Out of the Darkness, Into the Fire
11x2 - Form and Void
11x3 - The Bad Seed
11x4 - Baby
11x5 - Thin Lizzie
11x6 - Our Little World
11x7 - Plush
11x8 - Just My Imagination
11x9 - O Brother Where Art Thou?
11x10 - The Devil in the Details
11x11 - Into the Mystic
11x12 - Don't You Forget About Me
11x13 - Love Hurts
11x14 - The Vessel
11x15 - Beyond the Mat
11x16 - Safe House
11x17 - Red Meat
11x18 - Hell's Angel
11x19 - The Chitters
11x20 - Don't Call Me Shurley
11x21 - "All in the Family
11x22 - We Happy Few
11x23 - Alpha and Omega
Season 12
12x1 - Keep Calm and Carry On
12x2 - Mamma Mia
12x3 - The Foundry
12x4 - American Nightmare
12x5 - The One You've Been Waiting For
12x6 - Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox
12x7 - Rock Never Dies
12x8 - LOTUS
12x9 - First Blood
12x10 - Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets
12x11 - Regarding Dean
12x12 - Stuck in the Middle (With You)
12x13 - Family Feud
12x14 - The Raid
12x15 - Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell
12x16 - Ladies Drink Free
12x17 - The British Invasion
12x18 - The Memory Remains
12x19 - The Future
12x20 - Twigs & Twine & Tasha Banes
12x21 - There's Something About Mary
12x22 - Who We Are
12x23 - All Along the Watchtower
Season 13
13x1 - Lost and Found
13x2 - The Rising Son
13x3 - Patience
13x4 - The Big Empty
13x5 - Advanced Thanatology
13x6 - Tombstone
13x7 - War of the Worlds
13x8 - The Scorpion and the Frog
13x9 - The Bad Place
13x10 - Wayward Sisters
13x11 - Breakdown
13x12 - Various & Sundry Villains
13x13 - Devil's Bargain
13x14 - Good Intentions
13x15 - A Most Holy Man
13x16 - Scoobynatural
13x17 - The Thing
13x18 - Bring 'em Back Alive
13x19 - Funeralia
13x20 - Unfinished Business
13x21 - Beat the Devil
13x22 - Exodus
13x23 - Let the Good Times Roll
Season 14
14x1 - Stranger in a Strange Land
14x2 - Gods and Monsters
14x3 - The Scar
14x4 - Mint Condition
14x5 - Nightmare Logic
14x6 - Optimism
14x7 - Unhuman Nature
14x8 - Byzantium
14x9 - The Spear
14x10 - Nihilism
14x11 - Damaged Goods
14x12 - Prophet and Loss
14x13 - Lebanon
14x14 - Ouroboros
14x15 - Peace of Mind
14x16 - Don't Go in the Woods
14x17 - Game Night
14x18 - Absence
14x19 - Jack in the Box
14x20 - Moriah
Season 15
15x1 - Back and to the Future
15x2 - Raising Hell
15x3 - The Rupture
15x4 - Atomic Monsters
15x5 - Proverbs 17:3
15x6 - Golden Time
15x7 - Last Call
15x8 - Our Father, Who Aren't in Heaven
15x9 - The Trap
15x10 - The Heroes' Journey
15x11 - The Gamblers
15x12 - Galaxy Brain
15x13 - Destiny's Child
15x14 - Last Holiday
15x15 - Gimme Shelter
15x16 - Drag Me Away (From You)
15x17 - Unity
15x18 - Despair
15x19 - Inherit the Earth
15x20 - Carry On
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1. Pilot : 1x1
2. Wendigo : 1x2
3. Dead in the Water : 1x3
4. Phantom Traveler : 1x4
5. Bloody Mary : 1x5
6. Skin : 1x6
7. Hook Man : 1x7
8. Bugs : 1x8
9. Home : 1x9
10. Asylum : 1x10
11. Scarecrow : 1x11
12. Faith : 1x12
13. Route 666 : 1x13
14. Nightmare : 1x14
15. The Benders : 1x15
16. Shadow : 1x16
17. Hell House : 1x17
18. Something Wicked : 1x18
19. Provenance : 1x19
20. Dead Man's Blood : 1x20
21. Salvation : 1x21
22. Devil's Trap : 1x22
23. In My Time of Dying : 2x1
24. Everybody Loves a Clown : 2x2
25. Bloodlust : 2x3
26. Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things : 2x4
27. Simon Said : 2x5
28. No Exit : 2x6
29. The Usual Suspects : 2x7
30. Crossroad Blues : 2x8
31. Croatoan : 2x9
32. Hunted : 2x10
33. Playthings : 2x11
34. Nightshifter : 2x12
35. Houses of the Holy : 2x13
36. Born Under a Bad Sign : 2x14
37. Tall Tales : 2x15
38. Roadkill : 2x16
39. Heart : 2x17
40. Hollywood Babylon : 2x18
41. Folsom Prison Blues : 2x19
42. What Is and What Should Never Be : 2x20
43. All Hell Breaks Loose: Part 1 : 2x21
44. All Hell Breaks Loose: Part 2 : 2x22
45. The Magnificent Seven : 3x1
46. The Kids Are Alright : 3x2
47. Bad Day at Black Rock : 3x3
48. Sin City : 3x4
49. Bedtime Stories : 3x5
50. Red Sky at Morning : 3x6
51. Fresh Blood : 3x7
52. A Very Supernatural Christmas : 3x8
53. Malleus Maleficarum : 3x9
54. Dream a Little Dream of Me : 3x10
55. Mystery Spot : 3x11
56. Jus in Bello : 3x12
57. Ghostfacers! : 3x13
58. Long Distance Call : 3x14
59. Time Is on My Side : 3x15
60. No Rest for the Wicked : 3x16
61. Lazarus Rising : 4x1
62. Are You There, God? It's Me Dean Winchester : 4x2
63. In the Beginning : 4x3
64. Metamorphosis : 4x4
65. Monster Movie : 4x5
66. Yellow Fever : 4x6
67. It's the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester : 4x7
68. Whisful Thinking : 4x8
69. I Know What You Did Last Summer : 4x9
70. Heaven and Hell : 4x10
71. Family Remains : 4x11
72. Criss Angel Is a Douch Bag : 4x12
73. After School Special : 4x13
74. Sex and Violence : 4x14
75. Death Takes a Holiday : 4x15
76. On the Head of a Pin : 4x16
77. It's a Terrible Life : 4x17
78. The Monster at the End of This Book : 4x18
79. Jump the Shark : 4x19
80. The Rapture : 4x20
81. When the Levee Breaks : 4x21
82. Lucifer Rising : 4x22
83. Sympathy for the Devil : 5x1
84. Good God, Y'All : 5x2
85. Free to Be You and Me : 5x3
86. The End : 5x4
87. Fallen Idols : 5x5
88. I Believe the Children Are Our Future : 5x6
89. The Curious Case of Dean Winchester : 5x7
90. Changing Channels : 5x8
91. The Real Ghostbusters : 5x9
92. Abandon All Hope : 5x10
93. Sam, Interrupted : 5x11
94. Swap Meat : 5x12
95. The Song Remains the Same : 5x13
96. My Bloody Valentine : 5x14
97. Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid : 5x15
98. Dark Side of the Moon : 5x16
99. 99 Problems : 5x17
100. Point of No Return : 5x18
101. Hammer of the Gods : 5x19
102. The Devil You Know : 5x20
103. Two Minutes to Midnight : 5x21
104. Swan Song : 5x22
105. Exile on Main St. : 6x1
106. Two and a Half Man : 6x2
107. The Third Man : 6x3
108. Weekend at Bobby's : 6x4
109. Live Free or Twi-hard : 6x5
110. You Can't Handle the Truth : 6x6
111. Family Matters : 6x7
112. All Dogs Go to Heaven : 6x8
113. Clap Your Hands If You Believe : 6x9
114. Caged Heat : 6x10
115. Appointment in Samarra : 6x11
116. Like a Virgin : 6x12
117. Unforgiven : 6x13
118. Mannequin 3: The Reckoning : 6x14
119. The French Mistake : 6x15
120. ... And Then There Were None : 6x16
121. My Heart Will Go On : 6x17
122. Frontierland : 6x18
123. Mommy Dearest : 6x19
124. The Man Who Whould Be King : 6x20
125. Let It Bleed : 6x21
126. The Man Who Knew Too Much : 6x22
127. Meet the New Boss : 6x23
128. Hello, Cruel World : 7x1
129. The Girl Next Door : 7x2
130. Defending Your Life : 7x3
131. Shut Up, Dr. Phil : 7x4
132. Slash Fiction : 7x5
133. The Mentalists : 7x6
134. Season Seven, Time for a Wedding! : 7x7
135. Heaven Must Be Missing An Angel : 7x8
136. How to Win Friends and Influence Monsters : 7x9
137. Death's Door : 7x10
138. Adventures in Babysitting : 7x11
139. Time After Time : 7x12
140. The Slice Girls : 7x13
141. Plucky Pennywhistle's Magical Menagerie : 7x14
142. Repo Man : 7x15
143. Out with the Old : 7x16
144. The Born-Again Identity : 7x17
145. Party On, Garth : 7x18
146. Of Grave Importance : 7x19
147. The Girl with the Dungeons and Dragons Tattoo : 7x20
148. Reading Is Fundamental : 7x21
149. There Will Be Blood : 7x22
150. Survival of the Fittest : 7x23
151. We Need to Talk About Kevin : 8x1
152. What's Up, Tiger Mommy? : 8x2
153. Heartache : 8x3
154. Bitten : 8x4
155. Blood Brother : 8x5
156. Southern Comfort : 8x6
157. A Little Slice of Kevin : 8x7
158. Hunteri Heroici : 8x8
159. Citizen Fang : 8x9
160. Torn and Frayed : 8x10
161. LARP and the Real Girl : 8x11
162. As Time Goes By : 8x12
163. Everybody Hates Hitler : 8x13
164. Trial and Error : 8x14
165. Man's Best Friend with Benefits : 8x15
166. Remember the Titans : 8x16
167. Goodbye Stranger : 8x17
168. Freaks and Geeks : 8x18
169. Taxi Driver : 8x19
170. Pac-Man Fever : 8x20
171. The Great Escapist : 8x21
172. Clip Show : 8x22
173. Sacrifice : 8x23
174. I Think I'm Gonna Like It Here : 9x1
175. Devil May Care : 9x2
176. I'm No Angel : 9x3
177. Slumber Party : 9x4
178. Dog Dean Afternoon : 9x5
179. Heaven Can't Wait : 9x6
180. Bad Boys : 9x7
181. Rock and a Hard Place : 9x8
182. Holy Terror : 9x9
183. Road Trip : 9x10
184. First Born : 9x11
185. Sharp Teeth : 9x12
186. The Purge : 9x13
187. Captives : 9x14
188. #thinman : 9x15
189. Blade Runners : 9x16
190. Mother's Little Helper : 9x17
191. Meta Fiction : 9x18
192. Alex Annie Alexis Ann : 9x19
193. Bloodlines : 9x20
194. King of the Damned : 9x21
195. Stairway to Heaven : 9x22
196. Do You Believe in Miracles : 9x23
197. Black : 10x1
198. Reichenbach : 10x2
199. Soul Survivor : 10x3
200. Fan Fiction : 10x4
201. Paper Moon : 10x5
202. Ask Jeeves : 10x6
203. Girls, Girls, Girls : 10x7
204. Hibbing 911 : 10x8
205. The Things We Left Behind : 10x9
206. The Hunter Games : 10x10
207. There's No Place Like Home : 10x11
208. About a Boy : 10x12
209. Halt & Catch Fire : 10x13
210. The Executioner's Song : 10x14
211. The Thing They Carried : 10x15
212. Paint It Black : 10x16
213. Inside Man : 10x17
214. Book of the Damned : 10x18
215. The Werther Project : 10x19
216. Angel Heart : 10x20
217. Dark Dynasty : 10x21
218. The Prisoner : 10x22
219. Brother's Keeper : 10x23
220. Out of the Darkness, Into the Fire : 11x1
221. Form and Void : 11x2
222. The Bad Seed : 11x3
223. Baby : 11x4
224. Thin Lizzie : 11x5
225. Our Little World : 11x6
226. Plush : 11x7
227. Just My Imagination : 11x8
228. O Brother, Where Art Thou? : 11x9
229. The Devil in the Details : 11x10
230. Into the Mystic : 11x11
231. Don't You Forget About Me : 11x12
232. Love Hurts : 11x13
233. The Vessel : 11x14
234. Beyond the Mat : 11x15
235. Safe House : 11x16
236. Red Meat : 11x17
237. Hell's Angel : 11x18
238. The Chitters : 11x19
239. Don't Call Me Shurley : 11x20
240. All in the Family : 11x21
241. We Happy Few : 11x22
242. Alpha and Omega : 11x23
243. Keep Calm and Carry On : 12x1
244. Mamma Mia : 12x2
245. The Foundry : 12x3
246. American Nightmare : 12x4
247. The One You've Been Waiting For : 12x5
248. Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox : 12x6
249. Rock Never Dies : 12x7
250. LOTUS : 12x8
251. First Blood : 12x9
252. Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets : 12x10
253. Regarding Dean : 12x11
254. Stuck in the Middle (With You) : 12x12
255. Family Feud : 12x13
256. The Raid : 12x14
257. Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell : 12x15
258. Ladies Drink Free : 12x16
259. The British Invasion : 12x17
260. The Memory Remains : 12x18
261. The Future : 12x19
262. Twigs & Twine & Tasha Banes : 12x20
263. There's Something About Mary : 12x21
264. Who We Are : 12x22
265. All Along the Watchtower : 12x23
266. Lost and Found : 13x1
267. The Rising Son : 13x2
268. Patience : 13x3
269. The Big Empty : 13x4
270. Advanced Thanatology : 13x5
271. Tombstone : 13x6
272. War of the Worlds : 13x7
273. The Scorpion and the Frog : 13x8
274. The Bad Place : 13x9
275. Wayward Sisters : 13x10
276. Breakdown : 13x11
277. Various & Sundry Villains : 13x12
278. Devil's Bargain : 13x13
279. Good Intentions : 13x14
280. A Most Holy Man : 13x15
281. ScoobyNatural : 13x16
282. The Thing : 13x17
283. Bring 'em Back Alive : 13x18
284. Funeralia : 13x19
285. Unfinished Business : 13x20
286. Beat the Devil : 13x21
287. Exodus : 13x22
288. Let the Good Times Roll : 13x23
289. Stranger in a Strange Land : 14x1
290. Gods and Monsters : 14x2
291. The Scar : 14x3
292. Nightmare Logic : 14x4
293. Optimism : 14x5
294. Unhuman Nature : 14x6
295. Byzantium : 14x7
296. The Spear : 14x8
297. Nihilism : 14x9
298. Damaged Goods : 14x10
299. Prophet and Loss : 14x11
300. Lebanon : 14x12
301. Mint Condition : 14x13
302. Ouroboros : 14x14
303. Peace of Mind : 14x15
304. Don't Go in the Woods : 14x16
305. Game Night : 14x17
306. Absence : 14x18
307. Jack in the Box : 14x19
308. Moriah : 14x20
309. Back and to the Future : 15x1
310. Raising Hell : 15x2
311. The Rupture : 15x3
312. Atomic Monsters : 15x4
313. Proverbs 17:3 : 15x5
314. Golden Time : 15x6
315. Last Call : 15x7
316. Our Father, Who Aren't in Heaven : 15x8
317. The Trap : 15x9
318. The Heroes' Journey : 15x10
319. The Gamblers : 15x11
320. Galaxy Brain : 15x12
321. Destiny's Child : 15x13
322. Last Holiday : 15x14
323. Gimme Shelter : 15x15
324. Drag Me Away (From You) : 15x16
325. Unity : 15x17
326. Despair : 15x18
327. Inherit the Earth : 15x19
328. Carry On : 15x20
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Grace and Darius in Salvation 2x13 <3 Kitchen scene
#salvation#salvation cbs#grace and darius#gracius#grace x darius#grace barrows#darius tanz#2x13#salvation 2x13#asteroid#cbs
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Salvation 2x13 Get Ready
#salvation#salvation cbs#darius tanz#Santiago Cabrera#seizure#Aftermath of Torture#2x13#whump#whump gifs#mine#comfort#worry
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Oh damn, did you watch that Salvation finale? (spoilers ahead - kinda) We see aftermath of the sound torture Darius went through, there's stumbling, sweating, pain, pretty good acting on Santiago Cabrera's part too. Just go check it out ! ;)
ooo that sounds good! I’ll check it out! :)
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for @angelfishofthelord's #angelfish600 celebration
𝖉𝖆𝖞 𝖙𝖜𝖔: 𝖉𝖎𝖛𝖎𝖓𝖎𝖙𝖞 ‡ 𝖇𝖑𝖆𝖘𝖕𝖍𝖊𝖒𝖞
↳ 1x21 ‣ Salvation | 2x13 ‣ Houses of the Holy | 4x22 ‣ Lucifer Rising
#these are so messy idk i was fucking around and finding out#angelfish600#supernatural#supernaturaledit#spn#spnedit#cowboycoven#spncreatorsdaily#useroliii#userashleigh#userkingala#userleah#userstar#tw eyestrain#tw flashing gif#*spn#m: spn#*
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re: your tags on that one post abt plotholes in rnm: what are the plotholes that make you lose the most sleep?
(this is my main btw, my rnm blog is @curlyguerin )
Hi! Okay... strap in, because there are a lot of little and big things that wiggle into my thoughts and makes me wonder ...am I the only one who couldn't follow that plotline?
In my opinion RNM suffers more from abandoned narratives and continuity errors than plot holes I guess, since we only have 2 seasons, with at least 2 more to go I guess I can hope they come back to these issues... but: [Under the cut plus some spoilers for season 3]
Things I would like explained :
1. What did Jesse Manes fund with family money in 1x08 ? I'm guessing it was surveillance of the town and the search for more aliens that could have escaped the military in 1947-1948. The idea that Jesse funded Caulfield is just laughable to me, along with how he was able to get his Army-assigned son moved from Germany to New Mexico for 5 years and no one noticed?? Caulfield has to be separate from whatever Jesse was doing in Roswell. Clearly there is still an ACTIVE military project focused on aliens because Flint isn't AWOL, Flint also takes Noah's body to Area 51, so where was Jesse in violation of his orders (Alex's threat to Jesse in 1x08 and then shipping him to Niger)? Surveilling citizens and setting up cameras all over town?
2. Did they ever build an Air Force base on the Fosters Homestead Ranch? (1x01-1x02) ...then it's never mentioned again.
3. I am aware I am the only one who cares about this little bit, but the show seemed to set up a narrative in season 1 about the spotlight Roswell shined white victims of crimes - like Katie and Jasmine, that the town of Roswell holds quite a lot of racism regarding justice- vilifying Rosa for over 10 years, ignoring the deaths of people around Ranchero Night, and then Noah kills Wyatt Long's best friend Hank Gibbons in 1x13. I dunno, I was expecting more from Wyatt in season 2 about this than picking a fight with Michael over Mimi's missing persons sheet and showing up with a crossbow in 2x04. And like, there was a theme of people going missing in season 2!! Mimi, Jenna, the weird twins from 2x06, Charlie -- but yet, no closer scrutiny by Sheriff Valenti other than her focus on Max Evans and the story about Mexico- Like this felt not like a plot hole, but a dropped narrative -- to wrap up the fate of Racist Hank in a missing persons sheet in 2x01. To treat him weirdly like all of Noah's other victims (who were women and men of color and poor), but for a few factors like he was white, he had actual lines in the show over a couple of episodes, and he's one of the few townspeople we learn his first and last name still sticks out in my mind as strange. The Doylist explanation is the actor wasn't available for season 2, but the Watson-perspective of this is just someone the in-show universe doesn't care about ...? Okay. I will keep that in mind, and try to ignore the fact that the town of Roswell swings wildly back to caring about white victims again in 2x13 with Jesse Manes.
4. The Alighting from 1x13 - just how far away was it from happening? Noah was ready to stick a sheriff's deputy, the town event planner and Michael (who probably would be been the only one to go missing without much fanfare, except maybe by Alex) into a pod...for how long? Months? Years? What was his endgame? how did he expect to go unnoticed by the town while he waited for his alien salvation/alien UBER to arrive? Could he just mindwarp everyone into forgetting about the pod squad? Since we didn't see any alien ships show up in the six months from 1x13 to 2x13, and no further follow up by any of our heroes about what Noah was babbling about... I'm going to say this should come back into play for season 3, otherwise it's the most egregious plot hole from season 1.
5. Why did Flint want to work with Helena? Jesse had this master plan that Helena knew all about apparently but she never shares the plan with Flint? Jesse never shares this plan with Flint either? Why? As far as I can tell from the plot of season 2, Jesse takes the console piece from Alex, he was going to kill Alex to keep him out of the way, use the console to blow up civilians, he created a paper trail that pointed the finger at Max, and then when everyone knew the truth about aliens, he was going to use HIS atomizer bomb to release the toxin that Charlie had already developed for Project Shepherd to kill all the aliens.... WHY would Flint want to stop that, especially since they fight in 2x11 over how slow Jesse was moving in his plans? Other than objecting to killing Alex, why would Flint turn Alex over to Helena to blackmail Michael into building a second atomizer bomb? He should have just kept Alex out of the way until it was all over and let Jesse proceed with his plans. Flint's desire to work with Helena Ortecho remains a plot hole to me, that is explained in the most flimsy way of he thinks his dad isn't serious about killing all the aliens even though he has the means? And if he takes Alex from Jesse's control so easily, why not steal the bomb Jesse had too?
6. These are more gripes about continuity, not really plot holes, but the fact we have this loose timeline of events but it doesn't match the weather of filming.... Like Heather Hemmens looked so gorgeous in that little silk outfit in 2x01, but she's wandering outside in Dec in Roswell New Mexico looking like that. I get that it was filmed in August/Sept of 2019 but come on... so my main frustration is I have no idea what season and month is supposed to be on screen. Universe timeline says Winter but filming schedule meant it was early fall with still having the heat of summer there...then the show ends in May/June in the universe, but we all know RNM wrapped in Dec 2019/Jan 2020 so they are all bundled up in winter again.
7. Also on continuity, small things like Rosa's birthday being wrong, the fact her astrological sign isn't Pieces for either date, openly letting Greg Manes see Rosa, not seeming to care that Liz's ex-fiance hears that Rosa is alive - like i'm sure her "dead" sister came up in conversation between Liz/Diego
- the show gives us this beautiful conversation with Michael sharing his background with Alex in 1x10, but then Alex completely forgets it in 2x04 by dropping some line like "this is what you do with family" when Michael expresses confusion about a height chart. Also, on the same note- the jabs about the Library being a dive bar, also felt like a drop in continuity because Alex knows that Michael just lost his mom (1x12) , the government IS studying aliens, and his brother is in a pod, so like, he has some very valid reasons to drink if that's what he wanted to do with in his life in early season 2!! but, also he knows Michael is a genius??
- Why Alex never mentions Rosa, Isobel's blackouts/why Michael gave up UNM, or even hint about what happened with his dad in the shed during his conversation with Maria in 2x05 is also beyond bizarre to me. It was an "information" dump conversation that Alex still doesn't share all the information he has about a situation and just ends up looking kind of judgmental in my opinion.
- the truck conversation in 2x06 between Maria and Alex, why Maria prompts a girl's name when Alex says he's never been in a real relationship INSTEAD of addressing the very real elephant in the room, Michael Guerin, that they had a conversation about in 2x05- also feels like a gap in continuity.
8. Science wise- the pathogen that Charlie developed? It was supposed to be so specific that it could kill a leader of Al Quada and all of their direct descendants but leave the rest of the population unharmed. [Which um, that's a war crime, but whatever!] How was Maria affected? the DNA they had at Caulfield to develop it - like, Maria was descended from Louise and Louise lived free. The only person that pathogen SHOULD have affected was Michael (if they used Nora to base it on) Unless you're telling me that there's some protein in "alien dna" that is so specific to aliens, that no other human shares it, but also so completely undetectable that Kyle couldn't find it in Maria's blood... ? I suppose it's possible. I hope we get more explanation about that in season 3. It makes me wonder why Caulfield/Project Shepherd ever let Patty Harris go after she volunteered for some study then, and remained content to just pay her medical bills through a fake insurance company? [But also didn't flag Mimi and all the doctors that Maria took her to???]
9. Michael's hand. I'm going to reserve judgment about this, because some of my salt on this is based on season 3 promo pictures, but I really thought that moment in 2x13 when he takes off his hat, while Alex is singing, you see him without the wrapping on his hand, that maybe he found some peace with Jesse dead and demolishing the shed with Alex. But then it looks like the hand-danna is all over season 3, right up until the finale of season 3, so... was that a mistake in wardrobe AND not a beautiful moment of character growth??? I wish I could extend some grace to RNM about that, but alas... see above for why I have trust issues.
10. Perhaps I wasn't watching season 1 closely, but I thought Noah's madness was brought on by the fact he was stuck in his pod? That it was "lower class travel accommodations" and Isobel's scream at 13 got his attention? I assumed that he stayed in the pod, possessing Isobel on and off, right up until he used her body to kill Rosa in 2008, absorbing enough power to break out. So how did Noah find Jim Valenti so quickly? If it was through Isobel's memories, then why did Jim not immediately have Noah, some random alien approaching him about his recently dead daughter, hauled off to Caulfield? Jim pays $1,000 for Rosa's body, putting her in a pod [Noah's broken pod??] and stores her, waiting for...something? An alien to come along to bring her back. So did Jim know about The Savior? Why would Jim work with Noah and vice versa? Again, I'm hoping we get more about this in season 3.
11. Was there a point of keeping Alex in the Air Force? He arranges a place for them to work on bringing Max back, but I feel like anyone could have done that? Like Isobel had money, she could have rented a storage facility. All of the equipment was borrowed from the hospital, not the military. The information about 1947-1948 was from the drives decoded from Caulfield or the AAR report left by Flint in the Project Shepherd bunker (which again was decommissioned, not an active military installation). I could support the decision if it had provided some richness to the plot or some conflict within the character, neither of which really happened. Alex hacking the government and going undercover in the Air Force to protect Michael is basically fanon. I love that fanon, but alas...
12. Finally, the time jump. What year are we jumping into? 2020? 2021? Why does it make me think none of those questions above will be answered.
#rnm thoughts#season 3 thoughts#very long post#season 2 had tons of important conversations happen off screen#and tons of ooc conversations happen on screen#hopefully that changes in season 3
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Darius is clearly not well. Grace is clearly worried and taking care of him 🥹
#darius tanz#santiago cabrera#tanz tuesday#grace barrows#jennifer finnigan#gracius#grace x darius#salvation#salvation cbs#cbs salvation#salvation season 2#salvation 2x13#whumped darius#whump#aftermath of coma#aftermath of torture
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writing credits, seasons 1-6 only because this post is long enough:
kripke: 1x01 pilot, 1x02 wendigo, 1x09 home, 1x16 shadow, 1x22 devil's trap, 2x01 in my time of dying, 2x22 all hell breaks loose part two, 3x01 the magnificent seven, 3x16 no rest for the wicked, 4x01 lazarus rising, 4x10 heaven and hell (story), 4x22 lucifer rising, 5x01 sympathy for the devil, 5x09 the real ghostbusters, 5x22 swan song, 6x22 the man who knew too much; show creator; seasons 1-5 showrunner
kripke & siege: 4x07 it's the great pumpkin, sam winchester
siege: 4x12 criss angel is a douchebag, 4x18 the monster at the end of this book, 5x05 fallen idols, 5x12 swap meat, 5x17 99 problems
tucker: 2x04 children shouldn't play with dead things, 2x10 hunted, 2x16 roadkill, 2x20 what is and what should never be
gamble & tucker: 1x03 dead in the water, 1x12 faith, 1x14 nightmare, 1x21 salvation
gamble: 2x03 bloodlust, 2x08 crossroad blues, 2x13 houses of the holy, 2x17 heart, 2x21 all hell breaks loose part one, 3x02 the kids are alright, 3x07 fresh blood, 3x12 jus in bello, 3x15 time is on my side, 4x02 are you there god? it's me, dean winchester, 4x09 i know what you did last summer, 4x17 it's a terrible life, 4x21 when the levee breaks, 5x02 good god, y'all, 5x07 the curious case of dean winchester, 5x13 the song remains the same, 5x21 two minutes to midnight, 6x01 exile on main st, 6x11 appointment in samarra, 6x21 let it bleed; 4 episodes in season 7; seasons 6-7 showrunner
gamble & humphris: 3x10 dream a little dream of me
humphris: 2x07 the usual suspects, 2x14 born under a bad sign, 3x05 bedtime stories, 4x04 metamorphosis, 4x14 sex and violence
humphris & shiban: 1x20 dead man's blood
shiban: 1x06 skin, 1x07 hook man, 1x11 scarecrow, 1x15 the benders, 2x02 everybody loves a clown, 2x09 croatoan, 2x15 tall tales, 2x19 folsom prison blues
edlund: 2x05 simon said, 2x12 nightshifter, 2x18 hollywood babylon, 3x03 bad day at black rock, 3x09 malleus maleficarum, 3x13 ghostfacers, 4x05 monster movie, 4x08 wishful thinking, 4x16 on the head of a pin, 5x04 the end, 5x10 abandon all hope, 5x14 my bloody valentine, 5x20 the devil you know, 6x03 the third man, 6x09 clap your hands if you believe, 6x15 the french mistake, 6x20 the man who would be king; 7 episodes in seasons 7-8
carver: 3x04 sin city, 3x08 a very supernatural christmas, 3x11 mystery spot, 3x14 long-distance call, 4x03 in the beginning, 4x11 family remains, 4x15 death takes a holiday, 4x20 the rapture, 5x03 free to be you and me, 5x08 changing channels, 5x15 dead men don't wear plaid, 5x18 point of no return; 7 episodes in seasons 8-11; seasons 8-11 showrunner
dabb & loflin: 4x06 yellow fever, 4x13 after school special, 4x19 jump the shark, 5x06 i believe the children are our future, 5x11 sam interrupted, 5x16 dark side of the moon, 5x19 hammer of the gods, 6x04 weekend at bobby's, 6x07 family matters, 6x13 unforgiven, 6x18 frontierland; 5 episodes in seasons 7-8; 2 solo episodes in season 8 (loflin); 29 solo episodes in seasons 8-15 (dabb); seasons 12-15 showrunner (dabb)
glass: 6x02 two and a half men, 6x08 all dogs go to heaven, 6x12 like a virgin, 6x19 mommy dearest; 11 episodes in seasons 7-10
charmelo & snyder: 6x06 you can't handle the truth, 6x14 mannequin 3: the reckoning, 6x17 my heart will go on; 6 episodes in seasons 9-11
matthews: 6x05 live free or twi-hard, 6x10 caged heat, 6x16 and then there were none
#supernatural#eric kripke#julie siege#raelle tucker#sera gamble#cathryn humphris#john shiban#ben edlund#jeremy carver#andrew dabb#daniel loflin#adam glass#eric charmelo#nicole snyder#brett matthews
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2x13: Houses of the Holy
Providence, Rhode Island
A woman sits in the dark, smoking cigarettes, and watching TV.
The lights start to flicker and the television flickers back to an evangelical preaching. Her house starts shaking and her angel statues start falling. There’s suddenly a bright light and the woman watches it in awe.
Sam Winchester, decked out in white scrubs, greets his patient, Gloria. Sam wants to talk to her about what she saw that night. Gloria tells him that she stabbed a man in the heart “because it was God’s will.” Sam wants to know if God talked to her (too busy fucking with your life, Sam) but she says no and that an angel came to her. The angel told her that the man she stabbed was guilty. She needed no other proof to do it.
Sam later finds Dean enjoying some music and magic fingers.
Dean’s on lockdown because he robbed a bank in Milwaukee. They discuss the case. It really seems that Gloria is just a religious nutjob. And Sam would agree if she wasn’t the second person in town to have murdered someone because an angel told them to. “Supernatural maybe. But angels? I don't think so,” Dean insists. BLESS.
They then have a very fun conversation about how unicorns don’t exist (And Truly, BLESS Andrew Dabb. This dude took this one off joke and made it reality.) In any event, Dean firmly doesn’t believe in angels. (In a far off voice I hear: This is your problem, Dean. You have no faith.)
Once they stop arguing about angels, they decide to check out the victim, Carl’s place. They head to the basement to see what secrets he had hidden.
Sam finds scratch marks on the wall. On a closer inspection, he also finds a fingernail. They start digging up the dirt floor and find a skeleton.
In a lonely apartment, a man lays on his bed, drinking himself to oblivion. His lights start flickering and the room starts shaking. Suddenly there’s a bright light.
Cut to the man, Zach, walking to another house and stabbing a dude right in the gut.
Dean’s listening to the police scanner when Sam walks back to the motel room with food. He also has news that three people disappeared from the library where Carl worked. Dean has other news --the not-angel struck again.
They head out to the victim’s house and sneak inside. Sam hacks into the dude’s computer and Dean browses his catalog collection. Sam finds locked emails that turn out to be to an underage girl.
Dean is baffled by this spirit or demon they’re dealing with. Sam points out it’s like an avenging angel. Oh, Sam, if you only knew angels are dicks. Dean connects the two victims --they both go to the same church.
They meet with the priest posing as new parishioners. They discuss this whole angel crap but the priest is a believer (obv.) and talks openly with Sam about what angels are thought to be like. They look at a painting of Michael, the archangel, while the priest describes his belief that they’re “more loving, than wrathful.”
As they’re leaving, Dean notices a memorial on the steps of the church. It’s for Father Gregory, who was shot there two months prior in a carjacking. Dean thinks they’re dealing with a vengeful spirit, but Sam still humors the angel aspect of it all. Dean knows that Sam prays everyday (and I sit weeping in the corner, thinking of Purgatory.)
An angel statue begins to quake. Sam looks at it with curiosity, only to be overtaken by awe as bright light suffuses the room. He passes out.
“I saw an angel,” Sam gasps to his brother later. He reports that the angel spoke to him and told him to kill a man. The kicker is, the doomed guy on Sam’s hit list hasn’t actually committed any crime...yet. Dean’s unimpressed by Sam “Minority Report” Winchester’s insistence that he’s been chosen by the angels and God for this mission. I give Dean a high five, then methodically throw rocks through every single one of my windows as I think about the next thirteen seasons.
Their mom used to tell them every night that angels were watching over them. “She was wrong,” Dean says bitterly, “There’s no higher power. There’s no God. There’s just chaos. Violence. Random unpredictable evil that comes outta nowhere. Rips you to shreds. You want me to believe in this stuff? I’m gonna need to see some hard proof.” (I gallantly resist making a dirty joke about Castiel’s “hard proof.”)
Ahem. Anyway, Dean’s solid on the ghost theory. At the priest’s crypt they find wormwood growing - it’s a sign of a restless spirit. LOLLLL early seasons. Sam agrees to hold a seance.
They head out of a corner grocery a little while later, stocked with SpongeBob mats and candles for the seance, when Sam sees THE SIGN. Light glows around his mark - the guy he’s supposed to kill. While Ace of Base plays in my head, Sam makes a move to kill - er, stop - the ghost-tagged perp. Looking to forestall Sam’s murder-to-be, Dean tells Sam to run the seance and tails Sam’s suspect on his own. Dean watches the guy pick up a date, and then they’re off again.
Meanwhile, Sam’s obediently running the seance.
The priest appears in the crypt, horrified to see what looks like THE VERY DEVIL WORSHIP taking place. “I can explain,” Sam says before utterly failing to explain anything. And then light fills the room. The priest wonders if it’s an angel, but Sam sorrowfully notes that it’s only Father Gregory’s ghost.
The glowing angelic vision suddenly distills into a normal human figure. Father Gregory wonders why Sam isn’t killing his marked man. After all, he’s an angel and he commanded it! Sam glumly explains that NO, Father Gregory is just a normal ectoplasm-slinging ghost.
Dean loses the trail of the marked man, while Father Gregory explains that his kill orders are redemption for the killers and every one of his marks is guilty. “This is vengeance. This is wrong,” the older priest declares and I look VERY HARD at the rest of the show.
Meanwhile, the guy Dean was tailing parks his car in an abandoned alley and attempts to attack his date. JAB HIM IN THE EYEBALLS, LADY! Dean bashes his head in just in time and saves the date. The guy drives off and Dean follows quickly on his tail.
The old priest offers last rites to Father Gregory, who begins to flicker.
Sam watches in full puppy eyed mode as Father Gregory disappears, presumably to high five ghosts in Heaven.
Dean chases the Bad Guy through the streets until a truck pulls out in front of Bad Guy’s car. A metal pole bounces off the truck, pierces the windshield, and impales the guy right in the chest.
Later, Sam morosely packs his bag back at the motel.
For What the Fuck is this Motel Room Design Science:
Sam’s sad that there wasn’t an angel watching out for people on Earth. Dean pulls out his flask, takes a big swig, and promises to watch out for Sam. “You’re just one person,” Sam tells him. He’d hoped there was a higher power guiding their lives. One who’d grant Sam salvation.
“Knocking on Heaven’s Door” starts to play, while Dean confesses his current emotional state. He proposes that the insane way the Bad Guy died MIGHT have been God’s will. I kick Chuck right in the nuts.
Quakin’ Quotes:
Aw, dammit! That was my last quarter. Hey! You got any quarters?
There's a ton of lore on unicorns too. In fact, I hear that they ride on silver moonbeams and they shoot rainbows out of their ass
You’ve got faith. I’m sure it makes things easier
One of the perks of the job. We don’t need to operate on faith
Men cannot be angels
There’s so much evil in the world, Dean. I feel like I could drown in it.
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Hi :) i love reading your meta! You know how in 2x13 sam tells dean that he prays every day? I was wondering if you have any headcanons on what his prayers are about ^^
Oh wow, I'm so sorry for the late reply, anon--this got buried in my inbox! Dunno if you're still around, but it's a good question so I'll give it a shot.
First of all, given the context of that scene--season 2, when Sam is worried about going "dark side"--I definitely think he prays for himself, asking to be good or for the strength to stay good. It's hard for me to imagine him framing it in his prayers as asking for salvation, though--I think Sam would put responsibility on himself for his own salvation. He wouldn't expect to be saved in a passive way; he'd frame it in a way that gives himself more agency ('give me the strength to' rather than 'God save me').
I suspect that that's probably been a theme in Sam's prayers for as long as he's been praying, and I can see him starting at a young age. I think pre-Stanford and Stanford era Sam would also be praying for the strength to carry out his plan to get out. When he was alone at Stanford--especially before Jess but even after meeting her--I think prayer might have been a way of seeking comfort and strength, so far from his family.
Speaking of his family, that's the other thing I think Sam prays about. In fact, I could easily see Sam's prayers starting at a young age specifically for John and Dean. Young Sam, alone in a motel while his dad and brother are on a hunt, praying for their safe return. I think that would be a continuing theme while he was at Stanford--praying for his family to stay safe while he couldn't be there for them. This is different from his prayers for himself; he'd have no hesitation calling on a higher power to directly protect his family, because I think this is an area where Sam has always felt frustratingly powerless himself. He knows he can't keep his dad and especially his brother safe, so he prays all the more fiercely for it. In the pre-Stanford and Stanford era I could easily imagine Sam praying for Dean to get out of the life, too--something he doesn't think possible, but a prayer wouldn't hurt.
When he's back on the road with Dean, by the time we get that line in Houses of the Holy, I think Sam would still keep his brother in his prayers, even though he is there to watch his back himself. I could also imagine him praying for John after he dies, especially once they learn he's in Hell. I think there's a lot Sam doesn't feel he has control over when it comes to those he loves, so he prays for them. There are also parts of himself, especially at this point in canon, that he doesn't feel he has control over, either--his psychic visions and his supposedly evil potential--and those are the parts of himself he prays for. Sam fears his own perceived weaknesses and powerlessness, and his prayers reflect that and perhaps help him overcome that fear.
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Supernatural 04x15
Death Takes a Holiday
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The dynamic of the brothers in this episode is a clear inverse of 2x13 Houses of the Holy. We’ve seen Sam before believing that there could be miracles and angels, with Dean as the skeptic and we now have the complete opposite:
SAM Locals are saying it's a miracle….It's got to be something nasty, right? I mean, people making deals or something.
DEAN You think?
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DEAN Eh, maybe it is what the people say it is.
SAM Miracles? Dean, our experience, when do miracles just happen?.
They’ve completely swapped positions on the likelihood of miracles. For Dean, he didn’t believe in miracles before because he had never experienced one, but now that he has literally been dragged out of Hell by an angel he is less likely to question them. For him it’s still based on personal experience and hard proof. Sam had faith in God before because he wanted to believe he could be saved, he wanted to believe that there was a higher power who could care about him. But … I don’t think he’s hoping for salvation anymore. This episode shows that he’s given up hope for a normal life, and I think he’s given up hope for a lot of things he used to believe he could have.
This episode marks an important part of Sam’s character arc. His whole life he has wanted to be normal, but in this episode, he seems kind of exasperated and even angry at Dean for pretending that they are, or ever could be, normal.
SAM Look, I don't want them to die, either, Dean, but there's a natural order.
DEAN You're kidding, right? … You don't see the irony in that? I mean, you and me, we're like the poster boys of the unnatural order. All we do is ditch death.
SAM Yeah, but the normal rules don't really apply to us, do they?
DEAN We're no different than anybody else.
SAM I'm infected with demon blood. You've been to hell. Look, I know you want to think of yourself as Joe the Plumber, Dean, but you're not. Neither am I. The sooner you accept that, the better off you're gonna be.
It’s not just Sam’s faith in God that’s faltering this season, it’s his faith in … everything? He has lost faith in Dean, he’s lost faith in his dream of a normal life, he’s lost faith … in himself? In 4x12 he decided to lay aside what he wanted “for the greater good” and I think since then he’s given up hope and faith in all the things that used to bring him happiness.
On the other hand, we have Dean, who is trying so hard to have faith, which comes very unnaturally to him, but he still feels like he should.
DEAN Don't get me wrong. I mean, most the [angels] I've met are dicks with wings. But still... You know, I've done things. Horrible things. And someone upstairs still decided to give me a second chance. It just makes me feel...I don't know.
But then Tessa hits him with this ominous line
TESSA Stop lying to yourself, Dean. … “The angels have something good in store for you. A second chance.” Really? 'Cause I'm pretty sure, deep down, you know something nasty's coming down the road. Trust your instincts, Dean. There's no such thing as miracles.
Dean is really pretty vulnerable in this episode in a way that I don’t think we usually see him, he tells Cole that they’re all scared, admitting his own fear in that moment, which we know is a hard thing for him to do. And when he talks to Tessa about his life since he met her … he admits that he wished he had just died at the beginning of season 2. He says things are different now, referencing his new found purpose in life, but that is a shaky foundation. This episode rocks that foundation both because of Tessa’s warning, and because of the obvious apathy of heaven to general human suffering.
With Sam’s loss of faith comes an increased willingness to do things he might have otherwise have considered immoral. It’s an interesting situation we see him in, going to talk to the scared victim, saying that he’ll say “whatever [he] has to.”
This is his normal role within the episodes, honestly. And we know that he has a flexible relationship with the truth, however, we have never seen him straight up lie to someone in such a vulnerable position before.
SAM Hey. What if I told you that if you helped me, you wouldn't have to leave here? Ever?
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COLE You can do that?
SAM Yeah, you bet I can do that.
COLE You swear?
SAM hesitates.
SAM I swear.
The thing is, it’s not like he and Dean haven’t lied to people before. It’s not like they’ve never appealed to emotion to get people to do what they needed. But this time feels different. It’s such a bald face lie told to such a scared little kid that it feels so utterly wrong. And more than that, so utterly un-Sam-like. This is definitely going against that gentle nature of his.
Then Sam is able to fend off the demon attacking Pamela (Rip Pamela she deserved better. Honestly, I don’t understand why they introduced her just to blind her and kill her off within one season.) Anyway, this shows that he has been drinking demon blood again and Pamela, with her extra special senses, knows what’s up, and warns him:
PAMELA I can feel what's inside of you. If you think you have good intentions, think again.
#Supernatural Rewatch#04x15#4x15#Sam Winchester#Dean Winchester#Faith#Parallels#I'm just trying to track their character arcs#also Cas was in this episode and I love him that's all
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