#rwby hot takes

[uncaught-coolfish]

RWBY is at best a center-right series. There are women and gay people in it, but those women have as little agency as possible and the gay characters only represent corporate pre-approved queerness. The WF storyline sounds like it was written by Fox News and if there is a V10 we're gonna be told that we shouldn't be so mean to the pretty billionaires.

Hot take assessment:

[sonofabludger]

Thoughts on episode:

1. RAVEN KNOWS WHAT HAPPED OMG IS THAT WHY SHE WENT FULL BANDIT AND HATES OZ???? HOW MESSED UP WAS THIS MISSION???

2. Neo may be good guy now who wants friends? Ugh like I don’t want to feel bad for her about the Torchwick moment but can’t help myself.

3. Jaune’s voice change with his appearance had me ROLLING like he’s a prepubescent dude 😂

4. The 4 of them was what this God was striving for all along? Send me to go cry inconsolably.

5. Juniper and Somewhat going off to save the world is amazing and Jaune crying about it is perfect.

6. All the airships at Vacuo are alarming.

7. VACUO????

8. BLAKE AND YANG NOT BEING ABLE TO NOT HOLD HANDS AT LOOK AT EACH OTHER IS FANTASTIC THEY MAKE EVERY DECISION TOGETHER WITH CONSENT AND NOW I HAVE THEM LAYING TOGETHER EVEN IF JUST BC THRY WERE BLASTED INTO A CUDDLE JFKFKDJSJSBA

9. But… where is my extended version of Worthy?

10. Did… did we just… get a HAPPY ending of a season? HOW AND OMG I WAS ABSOLUTELY EXPECTING SOMETHING MESSED UP

[reashot]

Jaune Is A Bad Boyfriend Material... Wait, Hear Me Out.

1) He will treat you the way you want to be treated.

Despite knowing deep down that you probably don't deserve it. Making you feel awful sometimes.

2) He likes to cuddle and hug.

But you yearn for the cold embrace of death...

3) He will motivate you to be better.

Don't kid yourself. You will never amount to anything. And having a boyfriend like Jaune will ever change that.

4) He will learn to cook just so he can make your favorite dish.

And then you will get fat because of it. Not like you need him to do that. You're already fat right now, ain't ya fattie?

5) He will always ask for consent.

Which will get annoying real quick....

Ruby: Noooo!!!

What was that sound? Anyway moving on...

6) He will always be loyal to you.

Making you more likely to cheat on him.

7) He will support you no matter what.

Making you more likely to cheat in front of him.

So if anyone want to add something go right on ahead.

[lacependragon]

You know, the longer I think about it, the more I realize that it actually makes perfect sense that an online company so incredibly pro-military and pro-veteran (RoosterTeeth) would write the worst black-and-white, unbelievable, morally bland, and utterly boring and worldbuilding breaking anti-military story I've ever seen.

It's like they thought if they even slightly tried to make it realistic, even slightly tried to make it believable, we'd all realize how similar it was to the US military and go "you hate veterans!"

But instead we got a military that makes no sense. A story that relies on you not paying any attention to the worldbuilding. And a bunch of dead people who didn't mean anything because by the end they were just fucking caricatures. James is the evil general. Clover is the too-loyal right hand. Vine is the self-sacrificial meditative type. And they aren't anything else.

All of Atlas is flat and cardboard and cartoon-y and bad. And I genuinely think so much of it is the inability of these fuckers to stop sucking off the US military long enough to understand something called nuance. Because they fired so completely in the opposite direction to their on-camera shit (we love veterans! we love soldiers! fight the bad guys!) as opposed to RWBY (all military evil there is no nuance no middle ground nope just evil! James is as bad as SALEM!) that they lost every discussion and every interesting detail in the sprint between the two podiums.

This isn't the real world! We can have discussions about stuff we wouldn't approve of in real life but make interesting stories! We can have discussions about redemption and revenge and making choices!

But nah let's just have them all be evil evil people and then save Winter (maiden, sure), and Elm, Harriet, and Marrow (and I'm not going to lie here. I genuinely think the reason Harriet lives instead of Vine is because RT was TERRIFIED of another Sienna Khan backlash.)

Atlas was bad.

It was rushed. It was sloppy. It broke characters. It broke worldbuilding. It broke the internal logic of the universe.

And we still learned fucking nothing about its people, its culture, or its history. Just like in Mistral.

Setpieces. Empty destructible setpieces. Only this time there was nothing else to prop up the building facades.

Truly, the only good thing Atlas gave us was Penny.

And look how that turned out.

[diaryofamadsunwukongfan]

...he has a lot of layers for someone from a desert nation.

[greatwyrmgold]

People who paid attention to my blog in recent weeks probably know that July 10-17 was a busy time for people who ship Ruby Rose and Penny Polendina. There were a lot of fanfic of the two of them together, I read most of it (and plan to at least try the rest), and a lot of those fics were specifically set after Penny was turned into a real girl. And I can't understand why.

Now, I don't think Penny being a robot is the only interesting thing about Nuts & Dolts. There's more to the ship than "Girl who likes weapons dates girl who was built as a weapon". But at the same time, turning Penny human both removes some of the things that make N&D interesting and makes the overall story worse.

Cards on the table, I cannot think of a single Pinocchio-type story which I think was improved by having the non-human turn into a human. They're stories about people who were born different from other people, they feel like they need to become normal, and the narrative agrees. "Yes, them being weird was bad; this problem will be resolved in the most obvious, boring way possible."

And this isn't just a canon plot point I think is dumb. This is a dumb canon plot point that directly hits one of the things that I like about Nuts & Dolts. Penny feels isolated from humanity for being a robot, but Ruby doesn't care. She's surprised, but Penny can't even get any decent angst in before Ruby insists that she's still real, even if she has "got nuts and bolts instead of squishy guts".

That sense of being isolated from the world, just because of what you are, but having one person who doesn't care at all? Someone who accepts you for who you are? That's what I see as the core of Nuts & Dolts, more than any jokes about how much Ruby loves weapons.

And having Penny become a "real girl" like Pinocchio before her just guts that.

Anyways. Not all the Nuts and Dolts Week fics with a human Penny were bad; I liked the one where she discovers heatstroke. But broadly speaking, I just...do not get the appeal of writing a story when Penny's human. If you're gonna skip her second death, why not skip the part where she gets squishy guts, too?

(If any Nuts & Dolts authors have an explanation, I'd genuinely like to hear it. I like hearing people with different opinions!)

[iamafanofcartoons]

to this day I think a lot of black sun shipping was because they thought adam was based on the ox demon king and since he was sun wukong most famous enemy that the ship between sun and blake came from just that they think that would make a good paring since clearly blake would be a prize for the winner

That's the thing though.

My problem with MxF shipping.

Shippers who see women as a prize for a man?

Aka Couer al alaran, Blacksun shippers, Jaune x anyone in team rwby, qrowxsummer?

That's misogynistic to the core.

And a ship that is based on or encourages misogyny or the patriarchy?

Is not something I am going to support...ever.

Many of the Blake haters, such as couer al alaran, claimed that Blake was "supposed to fix adam" or "blake owed adam".

They have said similar things about blacksun, sadly.

Not all blacksun shippers are like this. But there's so gosh darn many who hold these beliefs that its safe to generalize such a community.

And the fact that , even with Bumbleby finally becoming canon, people still claim Blacksun can still happen?

That's just disturbing.

[foulfirerebel]

RWBY Hot Take?

I'm going to say this, and hope nobody blows up at me for it.

I liked V4 and onward on RWBY as a whole moreso than the first three volumes. One of the reasons is everyone's storylines being separated at first, but coming together in V5.

So, yes. I liked Yang's storyline as it started in V4 and has only been expanded on later on, with Tai having to help her back on her feet. I liked Blake having to face the fact that it wasn't her fault Adam attacked Beacon and doing SOMETHING is better than trying to run. I liked Weiss' gaining freedom from her father.

I like how Renora didn't become a couple right away. I actually liked that team RNJR got to rest in V5. I loved Ilia letting go of her extremism. I loved just...everything about V6, 7, 8, and 9.

I think RWBY has gotten better and better as it goes along. The first three volumes are great set up, have good humor, and start things along but if things went too far with it...well. I love My Hero Academia, Little Witch Academia, and other stuff involving schools of heroes and magic but that woulda been boring.

And just to say this: I have my own problems with RWBY. But they're minor at best. Most of them dissolved after V3, and each successive volume seems to make things better. I may not get deep in the meta, but I have thoughts.

[the-elegant-necromancer]

So gonna have a really hot take here

I dont really post about the fandoms Im in or enjoy. But this is something thats kinda Irked me for a while.

This is a RWBY and yes I know how the fans are viewed so thats usually why I dont share much.

But

For the fans that want the Whiterose (Ruby x Weiss ) ship to sail all I have to say is; you then have to have Knightfall (Jaune x Cinder) become cannon. The way the interactions are going and the amount of explicit attention they are giving on screen for them. Its the same pattern they did with Blake and Yang just faster.

Weiss initiates physical contact with Jaune and is the first to comfort him in each of the moments he needs it. Not even counting the comedic 'thirst' scene Weiss has shown a lot of specific affection to him, and much more than her team.

I know Whiterose shippers are going to come for my throat but as I said, if you want that ship to actually happen then you will have to also accept a Cinder redemption arc ending with Jaune.

Thats my hot take on this discouse nonsense. You can have your Whiterose as long as we can have our Knightfall!

[starry-average]

Same character, different font.

1. Blonde hair, red eyes (when Yang is angry, at least)

2. Both are in their respective positions for the main goal of killing up monsters/beating villains. Saving people is just a nice bonus of the job.

3. Explosive hits, explosions to manuever, gauntlets as a weapon.

4. Short temper & mommy issues

5. Both are villainized for their behavior (Yang v Mercury, Bakugou at the Sports Festival)

But Starry, you say, Yang is so nice!

Well, says I, Yang doesn’t have a ranking system that determines how much money she makes and if people like her or not. And I don’t believe she was told she was perfect or the greatest or the best (I’m finshing up S3 now, so I may be wrong) but. Bakugou and Yang, I feel, are extremely similar to each other but they grew up under very different circumstances, especially on the parent front.

I could talk about them more, but I want to get more caught up on RWBY first.

[uncaught-coolfish]

Fuck it I guess I'll go first.

Why oh fucking WHY was the Ever After not the fucking AFTERLIFE!!!! Seriously, this would have been so perfect as a fucking arc not only for Ruby and her team encountering the people who had died along the way while helping them grow. Since you know when good ol' MKEK, aka. "We can't write for shit." did say Volume nine was about growth until they double baked for one of the most poorly written depictions of mental health ever. This was so bad that it made Thirteen Reasons Why look good! Yeah I went there!!!

The amount of missed opportunities that was there we could have seen Penny explaining to Ruby why she had to die in order for Winter to get the Maiden Powers proclaiming that it was more suited for her rather than herself.

Weiss reuniting with her grandfather and even standing up to her father again along with her antecedents and descendants that she is her own person now and reinforces it by showing Jacques why he was never worthy of holding up the Schnee title.

A final showdown between Blake and Adam with the inclusion of Spirit Sun (since in Before the Dawn, he said he saw visions of a tree. Pertaining to Yggdrasil which I am calling it that since in Volume nine it was only called the Tree and that was it.) with blake promising that she will try to make humans and faunus try to understand and come together in her own way if she must. While Sienna Khan and the other faunus murdered by humans or anti-faunus rights activists all place the future of the Faunus on both hers and Suns shoulders.

Yang learning from people from Taiyangs bloodline how to control her anger so much so that she even admits that she isnt perfect to Blake and tells her to find someone that will love her more than she. Alluding to Sun as he was there more for her than Yang was, which the two agree in a platonic manner.

Oh and the fact we could get to see a mix of Ancient Remnant peeps, Afterans and even mythological creatures (respectfully since they NEARLY shat the bucket there) Oh and the BIGGEST ONE OF THEM ALL .

RUBY MEETING SUMMER ROSE

Sweet Jesus even up the stakes a little by having their souls fall apart as they travel across the Ever-After in a Race Against Time Arc but at the same time we see their semblances Evolve and Grow against the main villain the Red Queen (Not the Red Prince since I like to think he is cared for by the Curious Cat) and the Curious Cat not being some stupid twist villain again but this time someone who was created by the God of Darkness as one of the only "good" creations he had seen. and at the end the Tree of Yggdrasil gives Ruby and Co.... the biggest question to be answered right in front of them.

A WAY TO BEAT SALEM

Like holy SWEET MOSES it is so easy to do a Journey through the Afterlife Arc while giving the characters more time to flesh out and help them grow.

Hot Take Assessment:

This is a really cool idea actually. Tbh I think what I would’ve done for the Ever After is keep the gang separated for longer than like. Half of the first episode.

Keep yang alone since she was the first to go down. Maybe have that connect to her backstory of being abandoned by Raven. Maybe have Blake & Ruby sticking with each other. Develop more of the bond that the two started to have in V8 bc that was really cute and I’m bummed it kind of went nowhere.

Keep Weiss alone and actually FOCUS ON HER AND DONT MAKE HER INTO COMIC RELIEF and how she deals with the fact that her entire home is just. gone. Also the fact that she was the last one standing after her friends presumably died around her.

The one thing I’d change from V8 here is that none of ORNJ falls. Not in a “Jaune gets too much screen time” way, but in a… it makes the cast less messy for this season, way.

And have Neo in the shadows chasing them around. Maybe even throw in some familiar faces, deceased or otherwise. Some purgatory like thing idk.

I might just make that a fic😧

TL;DR Ever After should’ve been a lot less Alice in Wonderland (because they somehow made wonderland boring :() and a lot more Avatar’s Swamp episode.

[sedlex]

"Do you see this shit, rest of Team RWBY?"

[rubyneo]

we're the same guy

[nightmare-foundation-2]

If I see another person call ozpin manipulative I might actually go feral and attack someone

[epic-arc]

Question: What is the worst opinion or hot take you see someone say

Experience all toxic whiterose fans all of the time they gave me the worst take I ever saw

I must say that every time they talk bad about Jaune because of how he is in volumes 1 to 2, and people who defend a ship in a toxic way

[sapphicgoblinblog]