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[leotanaka]

i love that rings of power had celebrimbor call sauron "shadow of morgoth", tell him that the one ring will be his destruction and that he will be a prisoner of the rings forever before giving him the title of "lord of the rings" and that every single one of those moments, despite what was occurring in those scenes, was presented as a victory for celebrimbor and a defeat for sauron.

[lesbiansforboromir]

So, apparently,

And I am already seeing takes like... THIS

And all I have to say is if there is one thing in the whole entire world of media we do not need, it is yet another of Peter Jackson's takes on middle earth. Did you all just forget The Hobbit. Do you want another 10 minute scene of dwarves running through the glen pursued by the slowest wargs known to man or elf. WHERE has all the energy gone for the hatred of 'the LotR cinematic universe', WHERE is that meme with 'tom bombadil 2: the revenge' or whatever. I am going insane.

[valar-did-me-wrong]

also see @theivorybilledwoodpecker post to understand what they are bickering about and experience the full spectrum of emotions I felt while making this ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Part: 86/?

[jadehaven]

just realized it’s tuesday, which means it’s actually

Textpost Tuesday™

so here’s another one :D

[mistandshcdow]

i’m so ready for season 2, currently doing a rewatch with my mom and i forgot how good it is!

[crownedwithstars]

Galadriel in the Rings of Power, Part 1: Warrior of the Plot Hole

Galadriel is perhaps one of the most difficult characters in the legendarium, and I mean difficult in a sense that there are variations as to how her story goes. Tolkien kept developing her tale until the end of his life and his last ideas about her very much contradict his initial thoughts. So what really is canon about Galadriel and what's not? Why do I think her portrayal in ROP is so bad? I would argue there are certain fixed points about her story that cannot really be altered, especially not in the way the show has done, because they actively contradict and/or create problems for how things go down in The Lord of the Rings. 

Ever since the first season aired, Galadriel being shown as a warrior has been a controversial topic. I personally think it is a very bad decision, may create plot holes for her later story, and turns her into a completely different character. IMHO it's also misogynistic, as I will argue in this post. However, I shall try to make my arguments deeper than the usual complaint about girlbossification.

I will post my arguments in a few different posts, because that should make the whole much more readable. I will use the tags #anti rop and #anti rings of power for the benefit of those who may want to filter my posts.

I try to confer my thoughts in the most objective and respectful manner possible, and ask the same of those who may wish to challenge my views. If you like Amazon Rings of Power, I have no issue with that; I only take issue with how a character I've loved for over a decade is portrayed in this show.

1. Galadriel as a warrior, as shown in ROP, has little or no basis in canon and it may even create plot holes for The Lord of the Rings.

Galadriel's early history is commonly taken as a defence of the show's portrayal. She is called Nerwen, Man-maiden, and she is tall, strong and athletic. Her intellect is also on par with the loremasters of her people (which interestingly is rarely if ever mentioned by the show or its fans). It is implied - and arguments made in defence of ROP's portrayal stress this too -- that Galadriel in her youth is not like the other women of Noldor and doesn't do feminine things, such as weaving (keep this in mind, it will be important later). The show and the fans stress the line about Galadriel wearing her hair as a crown when she partook in athletic pursuits to such a degree that it's a little bit odd - as if this proved something more than the fact that she is a sportswoman in her youth.

In other words, her being physically strong and athletic does not immediately equal martial inclination, especially when Galadriel's youth, and the time these mentions allude to, is specifically a period of peace in Valinor. So where does this idea come from? Is it because of societal norms that equal physical strength with masculinity, and (toxic) masculinity is connected with aggression and violence? This may be in our society, but why is that norm applicable to an immortal, ethereal race and their society that would have to be in many ways different? I also seem to recall that for the Elves, the difference in strength and physical ability is much lesser between the sexes than for mortals (but please correct me if I'm remembering wrong). Either way, it seems to me like the basis of Galadriel being a warrior hinges on the belief that physical activity and strength equal readiness to aggression and violence. And this is done in a show based on stories by a writer who often lets his male characters be tender with one another and showing their feelings openly: the exact opposite of toxic masculinity. 

There are other examples in the legendarium that being athletic doesn't equal martial skill/inclination. Take the character of Aredhel. She is a huntress in Valinor, which probably means that she has skill with bows and spears. Aredhel is an athlete and she is certainly brave, but she is not depicted as a warrior -- and if she were, you would think it would be alluded to during her wanderings in Beleriand. However, she takes guards with her and Maeglin presents himself as her protector when they make for Gondolin, which implies that Aredhel is not a fighter despite being an athlete in her youth. 

What about mentions of Galadriel fighting, then? Again, I acknowledge there are different versions of her story. I myself only remember a mention of her fighting at Alqualonde (please let me know if there are other mentions). Some take this as a proof that Galadriel is a warrior, but I would argue that it is not, when you look at the context. At Alqualonde, Fëanor and his supporters attack the Teleri - Galadriel's kin by her mother Eärwen. What does a brave and physically strong person do in a situation where their family and relatives are being attacked? She probably takes up arms to defend them, whether she is martially active or not. Saving a family member's life does not hinge on being a professional fighter. Tolkien also says elsewhere that Elven women did not usually take part in fighting, but they could at need wield arms. Galadriel's kin being slaughtered would be such a need. In other words, this one mention of Galadriel fighting is not evidence of her being an active warrior. Moreover, the show's portrayal seems to hinge - to my knowledge - on these few lines, when the textual evidence of Galadriel being a courtier, politician and a leader is overwhelming. The evidence of her being martially occupied except at utmost need is extremely thin, and so making her a warrior is poor writing and makes you wonder why this change was deemed so necessary by the show's creators.  

How does the show portray Galadriel's background before the show? Firstly she is apparently a lonely child who doesn't get along with other children, but gets bullied (for whatever reason) and she lashes out at them violently. The show doesn't establish any particular hobbies or interests, except for a vague pastime of playing with small toy boats (which implies some kind of creativity, but the object itself is nothing that a human child could not make) and fighting with her peers. Apparently, she also adores her brother, who is soon after revealed to die at the hands of Sauron. 

Now we come to the First Age. ROP's take on Galadriel appears to be that she is a warrior in the trenches of Beleriand, and her motive is some kind of vengeance against Morgoth for the darkening of Valinor - a generic aim that other Noldor shared, but whether Galadriel has some personal stake is not clear. She doesn't stand out with dreams or hopes or ambitions specific to her. War is apparently the only thing that ever mattered to Galadriel and she is not shown as having any other preoccupations or interests than fighting and hunting for Sauron. Whatever motives she had in canon about ruling a kingdom of her own are absent. And by the show's logic, she would have to be a warrior through this age, because in the start of the first season of ROP she is the commander of the northern armies, and I cannot imagine that role being given to her if she wasn't an experienced fighter by the end of the First Age. And if her initial motive was to fight against Morgoth, then one would expect that she was a member of one of her brothers' companies. Namely Finrod, because he (and avenging him) is her obsession in the show. However, ROP's take on Finrod's role has to be quite different from canon, because Nargothrond was not in the frontlines of Beleriand during his lifetime. If Galadriel in the First Age is specifically concerned with fighting Morgoth, then surely she would not have spent it in a hidden kingdom?

Galadriel is not mentioned as a commander of war like her brothers in the Silmarillion, and neither is she anywhere else to my knowledge. She is not mentioned as taking part in any of the numerous battles of the First Age, in fact she leaves Beleriand before the final showdown. Rather, she is in Doriath with Melian, and at some point betrothed to Celeborn. I would argue that this period is crucial for Galadriel as a character and for who she later becomes.

Doriath ruled by Melian is the blueprint for Lothlórien under Galadriel's leadership. Doriath is the hidden kingdom, the fairest dwelling of the Elves east of the sea, fencing out outsiders and standing up against the Dark Lord. It is ruled by a powerful sorceress whose influence reaches far. The queen of that realm, along with her maidens, is a skilled weaver who fills the halls of Menegroth with wondrous cloths. She is also the giver of lembas to weary travellers, and has the gift of foresight. It is notable that according to The Nature of Middle-earth, Galadriel is one of the key persons in bringing the art of making lembas and the corn required to make back to Middle-earth, and it seems likely that her long stay in the safety of Doriath allowed the new corn and the art of making it into waybread to take root. This would take time and effort that Galadriel the warrior would not have.

In other words, Doriath is where Galadriel learns and combines the skills that she later uses to help the Fellowship, and I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that if Frodo and Sam did not have Galadriel's cloaks and lembas, they would not have endured all the way to Orodruin. 

If Galadriel spent the First Age fighting Morgoth's hordes, or even as a march warden of Doriath (unlikely, if she was fuelled by vengeance), she did not have time to learn the skills she needs in The Lord of the Rings to help with the quest to destroy the Ring, nor could she have had a role in establishing lembas in Middle-earth. In Doriath she would have learned the Sindarin and Silvan technologies of stealth and survival on a dangerous continent and absorbed enough influence that she too would one day rule a very similar realm. Her model of rulership is so like Melian's that it's hard to believe she would or could have exercised it without spending a long time in Doriath. She also could not have established the new corn or the making of it into lembas if she was constantly away on the battlefield.

One could also argue that the time Galadriel spent in Doriath and her link to Melian make her a viable option as a ruler for the Elves of Lothlórien. She is not just a Noldo who was born and bred in Valinor, she is also blood-related to Kinslayers. Despite this, she is still accepted as a leader by the Silvan elves and what survivors of Doriath lived in the wood. This could only be if she had taken time to learn the ways and culture of the Elves of Middle-earth in Doriath, and did not spend the whole First Age engaged in specifically Noldorin wars. 

Obviously, ROP can't use The Silmarillion, but there are still many ways that the script could work around this if the show's creators had bothered to try. Turning Galadriel into a warrior and making it clear she spent the First Age in the trenches actively denies the chance and time she needs to learn the skills that she will eventually use to help the Fellowship and to establish herself as an individual that the Elves of Middle-earth would respect and take as their ruler. You can't have it both ways. Could she have learned these things elsewhere? Perhaps the craft, but not the art and the magic, which Elven artifacts very much are about. Again we come to the fact that Doriath is the blueprint for Lothlórien and her connection to Doriath is what makes her a viable ruler; its exclusion from Galadriel's story creates too big of a problem. Also, what this change of her story actually does is downplay the importance of feminine skills and the time it takes to learn and perfect them. This is one of the many ways the show, and Galadriel's story in it, is misogynistic.

ROP!Galadriel is also portrayed as too consumed by her quest of vengeance, making it unbelievable that she would actually be interested in learning skills that don't have to do with finding Sauron. Moreover, the mentions of Galadriel being athletic and showing masculine traits are also taken from texts that Amazon does not have rights for, so it is contradictory that this bit is used to legitimise her being a warrior, and other parts where her femininity is shown, are refused because they don't fall in the sphere of what Amazon is allowed to use. Again, you can't have it both ways. 

Lastly, the change of Galadriel's backstory during the First Age raises questions about Celeborn. If she was busy being a warrior and did not spend any meaningful periods in Doriath, then when and where did she meet her husband? How did she have time to get to know him, and grow to care about him enough to want to marry him? How long were they married before he went missing? If Galadriel is this angry outcast who has a hard time getting along with others, what endeared her to Celeborn and vice versa? Here the show has the problem that will become familiar later on: compressing too many events in too little time. Between the arrival of Noldor in Middle-earth and the end of the First Age, there are less than 600 years. Moreover, according to Elven custom they did not usually marry or have children in times of war and in canon this is the reason Galadriel and Celeborn don't marry during the First Age, even though they live in Doriath away from the frontlines; so how ROP!Galadriel, preoccupied as a warrior and apparently far away from the relative peace of Doriath, could possibly get married at this time? Seemingly, Celeborn is already out of the picture at the start of the Second Age, leaving little to no time for the couple to meet one another, fall in love, get married, live any amount of time in the married state, and Celeborn to go missing.

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That's it for this time. In the next post, I will share my thoughts about ROP!Galadriel's so called war trauma, whether it works in the frame that Tolkien's legendarium provides, and what are its implications considering the timeline and her position as a military officer.

[i-dont-know-anything-anymore]

[tsuki-no-kaeshi]

You'd think being a fan of a series whose author died before you were born and whose most well-regarded films came out well over 20 years ago would allow you to avoid The Discourse but it seems that is not the case

[mirkwood]

Reminder for my mutuals I track userhara tag me in ur tolkien stuff

[nemiriel]

9 and 13 for the rings of power ask game? 👀💍

I am so sorry for not answering this sooner! 😳🙈  I usually use Tumblr on my phone, and for some reason, messages don't always show up in my inbox when I'm on my phone... I'm on my laptop tonight, and just saw this ask! Thank you so much, I love these! 💖

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From the Rings of Power ask game.

9. What is your favorite scene?

Ooh, this is a tough one! It's hard to choose just one, there are so many good ones. Finrod with little Galadriel in Valinor is definitely up there, I loved the caring, kind and protective older brother-younger sister dynamic. I could go on and on about a lot of scenes, lol. But since I can only pick one, I'm going with Sauron's reveal. I love everything about it. The scenery, Halbrand starting off cheerful and enthusiastic about the working on the rings, the sudden tension, Halbrand's little smirk, Galadriel's realization and attack, Sauron's display of strength, his offer for Galadriel to join him... All of it. ^_^ Definitely one of the top scenes of Season 1.

13. What is your favorite location from the show?

There are so many gorgerous locations, though from a Lord of the Rings production I would expect nothing less. ;) My favorite, I think, is Númenor. It is a really beautiful place, with the enormous carvings and impressive architecture. I love how it looks a bit Mediterranean but with a Tolkien twist, as well as looking reminiscent of Gondor but as an island. The surrounding sea is lovely, and I like the Númenorean ships & strong naval presence. I would definitely spend a lot of time in their Hall of Lore.

Eregion is a close second, though. The area in Ost-in-Edhil where Sauron is revealed to Galadriel is particularly lovely. And I have to give an honorable mention to Khazad-dûm; it looks nothing like what you would expect to find in a cave, while simultaneously looking like what you wish you could find inside a cave whilst exploring. If that makes sense. ;)

[leotanaka]

re: sauron crying after he killed celebrimbor.

charlie revealed in an interview with nerdist that sauron crying in that moment wasn't actually scripted. it was something that just happened while they were filming and they decided to leave it in.

[lesbiansforboromir]

Literally all I've ever wanted out of tolkien adaptations is a moment where characters discuss their metaphysical existence within the given paradigms that the world itself offers and RoP made an orc and an elf argue about it onscreen and the elf came out looking like a bloodthirsty slaughterer, happy to ignore all evidence to the contrary in order to hold onto the idea that she is inherently pure of heart and soul and orcs are all better off dead because the alternative is to realise the only cosmic difference between an orc and an elf is one was tricked by evil and the other was not... And now Galadriel cannot even claim that. !!! !!! I'm supposed to not be insane about that?? I'll be dead in my grave before that happens.

[beyonddarkness]

In the Darkness, Bind Them

Has anyone else wondered why Power was the proper exchange for Light? This line always stood out to me as something extremely peculiar, unexpected, menacing, ominous—you name it. It seemed like there was a lot more to it than what we perceive on the surface.

"You bind me to the light, and I bind you to power" (Sauron, 1x08).

The most obvious purpose behind Sauron using Power as incentive for Galadriel was, that the idea of having a realm to rule was very appealing to her. That's the whole reason she left Valinor in the first place.

"[...] but Galadriel, the only woman of the Noldor to stand that day tall and valiant among the contending princes, was eager to be gone. No oaths she swore, but the words of Fëanor concerning Middle-earth had kindled in her heart, for she yearned to see the wide unguarded lands and to rule there a realm at her own will" (The Silmarillion: Of the Flight of the Noldor).

Sauron would have fulfilled his promise, but OH BOY did he have something up his sleeve!!!

Those of you who have visited the Blog might have already seen this picture on the homepage:

I realized (at Peak Inspiration Hour, aka 2 A.M.) that the image draws an alarming parallel between Galadriel and Lúthien. Chapter 6 is all about parallels, but I assure you that when I made the image, this particular parallel was Unthought Of.

Once upon a time, Sauron heard Lúthien singing songs of power to Beren, in the hour of Finrod's death...

"Sauron stood in the high tower, wrapped in his black thought; but he smiled hearing her voice...

...for he knew that it was the daughter of Melian. The fame of the beauty of Lúthien and the wonder of her song had long gone forth from Doriath; and he thought to make her captive and hand her over to the power of Morgoth, for his reward would be great" (The Silmarillion: Of Beren and Lúthien).

Every. Single. Clause. has a connection to that scene in the prison (1x03), down to the name Halbrand literally translating to "High Tower" in Sindarin; BUT for this post, I would like to focus on the last line: "he thought to make her captive and hand her over to the power of Morgoth, for his reward would be great."

In prison, Sauron's true intentions were concealed, but on the raft, they were finally out in the open.

He knows that Galadriel left Valinor because she wanted her own realm to rule, so he tells her, I would make you a Queen. I'll give you power. But what he fails to mention is that the "power" he speaks of, means binding her to something far more sinister.

His language is expertly disguised, to make it appear as though he would give her what she wants. In reality, his plan for her was the same for Lúthien: to make her captive, and "hand her over to the power of Morgoth." THAT is the Power he planned on binding Galadriel to—the Darkness ("...and in the Darkness, bind them").

"Light" and "Power" are perfect opposites, in that context. He speaks fondly of the Light of the One, and tells her that he wants to be bound to it. In exchange, he'd bind her to the balance (or opposite) of that Light, handing her over to the Power of Morgoth...

"...for his reward would be great."

He's not going to give her what she actually wants, no more than when he gave Gorlim what he wanted (which was to be restored to his wife; but this desire Sauron granted, by cruelly putting him to death).

He wears puppy-eyes and sincerity in Galadriel's warped mind because that is what she can see. On the outside of her mind, Sauron has no need to hide (even though she's looking right at him) because she cannot perceive his expression, being stuck in the vision. But we can see it.

Behold his true intent:

"You bind me to the light the One, and I bind you to power Morgoth."

[jadehaven]

whoops nearly forgot about

Textpost Tuesday™

here ya go lol

[thefandomexpert]

the urge to reblog every piece of phobs fanart is rising strongly within me

[lucythornwalter]

I am that very witch person whose primary criteria for if an adaptation is good are “does it accurately follow the themes and plot of the source material” and “does it engage with the flaws of the source material in a way that indicates the people doing the adaptation care about fixing them and addressing them”

and let me tell you it’s a lonely devil’s sacrament