#rickard stark imagine

[blakeswritingimagines]

Dating Yandere Rickard Stark Would Include:

He is a strict leader, but he does have a softer side to him. He's known mostly for being stoic and keeping his feelings at bay. But he does have a romantic side to him that he's not afraid to show to you. When he finds someone he truly loves, he's willing to do anything for you.

As a yandere, he can be very obsessive about his love interests. He will have a deep emotional attachment to you and will do anything for you. He can be very possessive and jealous of your time and attention. He can be prone to impulsive, obsessive thoughts, behaviors, and actions. He can become irrational and act out violently when faced with jealousy or rejection. He can also be very needy and emotionally dependent on you.

He would be very jealous, but at the same time, he would treat you kindly as long as you didn’t show attraction to others. He would try to manipulate you and make you be loyal and devoted to just him.

He would be very possessive over you and not trust you around other people when you weren’t with him. He would often ask you where you were going when you left and always try to keep you close to him. He would be jealous of anyone who even got close to you and he would never allow you to hang out with them. He would expect you to give him all your attention and if you didn’t, he would get very angry and lash out at you.

He would be very controlling towards you and try to dictate what you wear, who you spend time with, where you go, what you do, and how you act. He would be prone to violent outbursts when things don’t go the way he wants them to, and he would be extremely manipulative and possessive over you. He would always be suspicious of other people's intentions and not let you make many friends. He would treat you like property and feel entitled to you.

He would also be extremely clingy and needy. He would be constantly calling and texting you, and demanding your attention all the time. He would constantly beg for your love and attention and wouldn't let you leave him alone for even a second. He would also constantly be asking you to see him and spend time with him, to the point where it would begin to drive you crazy.

He would be very volatile. His moods would always be shifting, from loving to spiteful. He'd be quick to lash out and make threats if you did anything that didn't go his way. He'd be very unpredictable and you never know what kind of mood he'd be in. He'd be quick to insult you and make you feel worthless, but then make you feel special and loved just as quickly. He'd be manipulative and make you understand that he owns you, that there's no one else for you and you'd be lost without him.

As a yandere, he would be very protective of you. He would be extremely overprotective to the point where you would be unable to do anything without him. He would constantly worry about your safety and would go out of his way to make sure that nothing bad happened to you.

Well, if you ever cheated on him, he would make sure you'd regret it dearly. He'd start with insulting and cursing at you. He'd be extremely jealous and angry of whoever you cheated on him with and he would make sure that you knew how much he hated the other person. He would find some way to physically hurt the other person to teach them a lesson even in front of you, and he'd always hold it against you and make you pay dearly for it.

He would have no respect for your autonomy or boundaries. He would demand that you do whatever he says, whenever he says it. He'd forbid you from leaving him, and he'd make you feel like you're nothing without him. He'd be extremely manipulative and he'd do anything to keep you with him and make you his.

When you're around him, he would insist that you wear matching jewelry or accessories that signify your union, like friendship bracelets, promise rings, or even collars and leashes. He'd be extremely possessive and demand that you never take it off. If anyone ever dared to criticize him, he'd freak out and lash out at them, even if your reputation is at stake. He'll be there to defend your honor no matter the cost.

Well, if you did something that he liked or pleased him, he'd reward you with attention and affection. He'd give you compliments and praise you for doing the right thing, and make you feel loved and appreciated. He'd also give you gifts and surprises just because you deserve them.

If you do something that he doesn't like, he'll punish you by insulting or degrading you. He would ignore you for a period of time and make you feel neglected and forgotten. He'd make you feel worthless and insignificant, and he'd make you feel like you're nothing without him. He'd withhold love and affection and make you feel like you're alone. He'd make you feel guilty and ashamed for something he believed you did wrong. He'd punish you by denying you the things you want and making you feel hopeless about achieving your goals. His punishments also include anything from taking away privileges to spanking, to even slapping you if you really needed.

Well, if you got married, that would mean there are no more secrets between you, and are bonded forever. You would belong to him and he would belong to you. He would be the only person in your life. He would expect you to never even look at another as if they were attractive or interesting and he would demand complete obedience from you.

If you had children, you would be even more bound to him. He would use the children as a way of keeping you to him even more, and make you depend on him both financially and emotionally. He would use the children as a way of controlling you and making you feel as if your life revolved around him and the family.

If you couldn't have kids, he would have an even tighter hold on you and make you completely dependent on him. He would make you believe that you can't live without him and that no other person would ever want to be with you. He would make you believe that he is the only one who can make you happy and he would use that to his full advantage.

"You belong to me now, you are mine entirely and you can't live without me. No other man will ever care for you or take care of you the way I do. You shouldn't even think about leaving me because you will never find someone better than me and you'll be miserable without me. Be grateful that I love you and I am allowing you to be with me.

Creampies - He loves the idea of filling you up with his cum and then leaving you to deal with the messy aftermath of your encounter.

Power exchange - Being able to physically overpower his partner and use you however he pleases is just... exhilarating. And last but not least, there's an obsession with gagging and face-fucking.

Spanking – Especially when combined with other activities like fucking or sucking. The sound of his hand connecting with someone's ass cheek always sends shivers down his spine.

Edging - Taking you as close to the edge of orgasm as possible without actually letting you climax.

Size worship - He gets off on being worshiped for his large size and physical attributes. This includes being admired, touched, and even used as a sex toy by you.

[myimaginationplain]

au where Aerys & Rhaella secretly marry Lyarra & Rickard in a bid for each couple to escape their mutually unwanted arranged marriages

[fromtheseventhhell]

I’m sure you saw that poll about Dany from Arya’s POV and Arya from Dany’s POV. What do you think Dany and Arya will think of each other? Will they start off suspicious and cautious but slowly become friends? Or will they be fascinated by each other from the beginning? I know Dany dislikes Ned because she sees him as one of the Usurper’s dogs thanks to Viserys and Jorah. But I don’t think she’ll judge Arya for the actions of her father.

I can definitely see them having tension at first and I think that's pretty realistic. "They seemed almost old friends" happens on Arya's second time encountering the dragon skulls, which could foreshadow some initial tension. Also like you mentioned, Dany doesn't have a very good image of Ned and there's also the fact that he was integral to Robert's rebellion. I think Dany will have sympathy for her but that doesn't mean it's going to be completely ignored. I imagine that the closer Dany gets to Westeros, the stronger her emotions surrounding her family's usurpation and her life on the run will be. It can be a mix of both though. They have tension because of the history between their families but they also share many similarities. Either way, I think they're going to get along in the end and I'm really looking forward to seeing it.

[dalekofchaos]

Targaryen restoration au

Imagine if the following happened.

Rhaella lived through childbirth and got to take care of Dany and Viserys

Elia, Aegon and Rhaenys were able to escape to Dorne before the sacking of King's Landing

Arthur Dayne took a pregnant Lyanna to Starfall to find proper care to deliver Jon. But let's say in this au Rhaegar told Arthur the Prince that was promised must be named Daeron III

Jon Connington is called and returns to serve his lord's children

At some point they all link up and begin to plot to restore House Targaryen and take what is rightfully theirs. With Fire & Blood

With Rhaella, Ser Willem, Elia and Arthur around. Viserys never descends into madness and becomes more well adjusted.

Lyanna survived childbirth. Lyanna could not return home. She's too ashamed after her actions led to the deaths of Rickard and Brandon and she knows if she returns with her son, Robert would kill them. Arthur and Lyanna raised Daeron together. One thing led to another and they fell in love.

With outside forces preventing the crown from finding them(Doran, Varys and Illyrio) the Targaryens are never found.

Dany has a happy childhood and while they move every often, she has happy memories with her mother, brother and cousins.

With Rhaella, Doran, Oberyn Arthur and Jon Connington around, Aegon, Rhaenys, Viserys and Daenerys all grow up well versed into politics. Arthur and Oberyn properly turns Aegon, Daeron, Rhaenys, Dany and Viserys into warriors.

Because of Arthur's presence, he would not allow or tolerate Jorah Mormont.

With the vast wealth of Illyrio and Varys influence, an army of sell swords are at their disposal. They have the Golden Company, Windblown, Second Sons, Unsullied, and Storm Crows

With an alliance with Dorne, Aegon is betrothed to Arianne, House Tyrell are known Targaryen loyalists. Daeron is betrothed to Margaery and Daenerys is betrothed to Willas, The Targaryens could reach out to the Greyjoys and promise revenge and plunder. Viserys is betrothed to Asha.

I don't know if the dragons would factor into this au. Maybe there is a ritual, magic via the red priests/priestesses or something they found that could hatch the dragon eggs. If so the dragons are given to Rhaegar's children because prophecy. Aegon's Dragon will be named Visenya(Drogon) Rhaenys' dragon will be named Meria(Rhaegal) and Daeron's will be named Ghost(Viserion)

The War of the Five Kings turns into the War of Kings & Dragons.

Renly runs back to Stannis after he finds out the Tyrell's true allegiances. The brothers put behind their grievances and stand together.

When Cat goes to treat with Renly, she is surprised that Stannis and Renly stand together. They offer Robb a choice, join us. The Lannisters must be dealt with and then deal with the invading Targaryens.

Battle of the Blackwater ends with the Stark-Baratheon alliance victorious. Robb rescues Sansa and Joffrey is executed. Cersei is executed and Tommen is fostered at Casterly Rock by Tyrion. Tywin falls in battle.

Littlefinger is executed and Varys escapes in time to meet with the Targaryens.

The Targaryens arrive. They are met with Dorne, the Ironborn and the Reach.

All out war.

The Targaryens obviously win. But they are smart. They give their enemies the chance to bend the knee.

Then the Targaryens, Starks, and Baratheons unite their forces and marches North. to face their true enemy.

Aegon VI's small council

Hand of the King:Jon Connington

Grand Maester:Marwyn

Master of Whispers:Varys

Master of Laws:Oberyn Martell

Master of Ships:Mace Tyrell

Lord Commander of the Kingsguard:Arthur Dayne

Meanwhile I can see Euron return and hire a Faceless man to kill Willas Tyrell. Euron tries weasels his way into Dany's good graces. There are two ways we can play this. Dany sicks the Kingsguard to kill him or he slowly begins to corrupt her. Blame Viserys and cause Targaryen infighting. And after Viserys is out of the picture. Euron helps Dany take the throne and cement the Targaryens and the Greyjoys alliance through marriage, let the Long Night kill her cousins and they can rule the Iron Throne together and he has the means to bind the dragons to her will.

In the scenario where Dany stays loyal to her family. Euron is captured and is awaiting his execution. With no dragons to burn him. Dany has him executed by Wildfire. "Dracarys"

Ending 1:Rhaegar's prophecy is true and his children save the realm from the Long Night

Ending 2:Aegon, Rhaenys and Daeron sacrifice themselves to end The Others, while Dany brings peace to the realm

Ending 3:The unholy union of Euron and Dany plunges the world into darkness.

[agentrouka-blog]

When one tries to rebut how Sansa wants Northern independence, would saying that she doesn’t say anything in the books about it or how Robb tried and died justify it?

Why on earth would she not want Northern independence? She is literally the captive of a tyrant king who killed her father and who regularly has her beaten for Robb's actions. If ever there was an appropriate moment for GRRM to slip in Sansa's political opposition to Northern independence it would be in ACOK?

Instead we get this:

Besides, the lords of the Trident were sworn to Riverrun and House Tully, and to the King in the North; they would never accept Littlefinger as their liege. Unless they are made to. Unless my brother and my uncle and my grandfather are all cast down and killed. The thought made Sansa anxious, but she told herself she was being silly. Robb has beaten them every time. He'll beat Lord Baelish too, if he must. (ACOK, Sansa VII)

Her thoughts are consistently supportive of Robb. His defeat is a betrayal to her.

She would have fled them both, perhaps, but there was nowhere for her to go. Winterfell was burned and desolate, Bran and Rickon dead and cold. Robb had been betrayed and murdered at the Twins, along with their lady mother. (AFFC, Sansa I)

As late as her TWOW sample chapter, she thinks this:

Robb would be his age, if he were still alive, she could not help but think, but Robb died a king, and this is just a boy.

Or do they think she only supports Northern independence if there's a Lannister on the throne and she would be fine returning to the fold once the next monarch is "nice"? Is that "nice" claimant then meant to be Dany, perhance?

In that case, I hope they don't imagine she'll forget the example of the last time Targaryens held the throne, and what even tyranny it meant for House Stark, specifically Rickard and Brandon, their companions, but also Lyanna. The Rebellion broke out because the guy on the throne demanded that Jon Arryn send him Eddard and Robert to kill.

Sansa is a history nerd. She knows this stuff.

The only reason the North as a whole deferred their independence movement was because Ned's bestie was on the throne. The abject enthusiasm with which the Northerners and the Riverlanders spontaneously proclaimed Robb's kingship is a testament to how widely held and popular that general sentiment always was in both regions.

Sansa herself has witnessed the decadence and ignorance that the royal leadership in KL is capable of, unchecked. She also witnessed how weak they are as soon as a region like the Reach witholds its support and resources. What benefit do people imagine she sees in remaining subservient to them?

The fact that Sansa has been brutally disabused of her idealised idea of courtly culture in the South removes any sentimental attachment she may have held for this political connection, so unless there was a really pressing political reason to consider it, she has every incentive to advocate for independence.

[ladystoneboobs]

[Jaime, to Brynden Tully:]"I will permit you to take the black. Ned Stark's bastard is the Lord Commander on the Wall." The Blackfish narrowed his eyes. "Did your father arrange for that as well? Catelyn never trusted the boy, as I recall, no more than she ever trusted Theon Greyjoy. It would seem she was right about them both. No, ser, I think not. I'll die warm, if you please, with a sword in hand running red with lion blood." -Jaime VI, aFfC

there's always been some debate about how seriously to take the blackfish's words about jon here, and whether he's actually trying to keep the lannisters in the dark about jon being a possible new kitn according to robb's will. for me, after due consideration, what seals it (but seems to be overlooked whenever this subject comes up) is the reference to theon as equally mistrusted by catelyn. except she never did distrust theon in that way! cat may have found his constant smiling suspicious, but if anything, she trusted theon too much and took the loyalty and obedience of ned's hostage completely for granted.

[Catelyn, to Brienne:]"Bran and Rickon tried to escape, but were taken at a mill on the Acorn Water. Theon Greyjoy has mounted their heads on the walls of Winterfell. Theon Greyjoy, who ate at my table since he was a boy of ten." -Catelyn VII, aCoK

there's no sense of being proved right when she learned all that theon supposedly did at wf, only that he was a member of their household for 10 years, without any mention of his being a hostage from an enemy family as the only reason he lived with them.

and if that's not conclusive enough, let's look back to when cat reunited with robb after ned's arrest while theon was still a member of robb's entourage.

[Catelyn, to Robb, about his leading the northern army:]"No one?" she said. "Pray, who were those men I saw here a moment ago? Roose Bolton, Rickard Karstark, Galbart and Robett Glover, the Greatjon, Helman Tallhart … you might have given the command to any of them. Gods be good, you might even have sent Theon, though he would not be my choice." -Catelyn VIII, aGoT

yeah, she said he wouldn't be her first choice, but still the fact that she presented theon as a viable option at all, not her best suggestion as an advisor imo. can you even imagine foreign hostage theon leading an army of veteran northmen--a number of whom must have fought against balon's first rebellion alongside ned--to save ned? (not to mention that theon was 5yrs older than robb but in no way more experienced as a commander or warrior in any sense, and not any better trained as a leader in his perpetually subordinate captive squire position.) before that, she accepted theon's bs embellishments about ned being a second father to him and knowing his family owed hers a great debt without even a thought of doubt. and when she did argue with robb about sending theon back to the islands it was framed as distrust about balon only, not disputing robb's assertion that theon proved his loyalty by fighting in battle for them and saving bran's life in the wolfswood before that.

in conclusion, any idea that catelyn distrusted theon all along and was only proven right about him without any shock would have to a rewriting of history on her part, of which there's no evidence in her own pov in asos. it's possible she could have presented this false narrative to the blackfish sometime offpage in asos, just like it's possible she wrote letters to him in the vale airing her family's dirty laundry and complaining endlessly about jon's existence without ever mentioning that communication in her own pov, but the simpler and more likely explanation imo is that this discrepancy is bc the blackfish was lying to jaime. esp considering the blackfish was also in robb's inner circle and as both were non-povs all of their convos without catelyn would have to take place offpage moreso than brynden's with catelyn, and that edmure, another tully and the one in riverrun least close to robb, witnessed robb's will, and that sers desmond grell and robin ryger, two long-serving, high-ranking, and trusted riverrun retainers, did take up jaime's offer to go to the wall, which seems an odd choice if the blackfish was indeed wholly against that institution under jon snow's command and presumably would have tried to dissaude his men from joining. and i'd say there's no evidence catelyn ever suspected jon of willingness to work with ned's killers and robb's enemies or even hated him as much as the people who killed ned and twice tried to kill bran. which makes brynden's absolutely wild accusation of jon owing his rise to tywin lannister well beyond anything cat said or thought about jon in her own pov, which only further makes me thinks his words were insincere. (she may, at times, have wanted to believe jon untrustworthy to justify her own feelings about him, but such suspicion was not the source of those feelings. idt she actually needed to see him as a true enemy to dislike him when being ned's (alleged) bastard was enough without any sins of jon's own.)

[synchodai]

HotD Episode 7 Live Reaction

But if you close your eyes, does it always feel like nothing's changed at all. But at least there be dragons.

I stiil don't like that Seasmoke fell in Addam's lap. Addam should have been the one to actively claim Seasmoke. I just really don't like HBO's insistence on "power is better wielded by those who don't want it."

"I may appear lowborn but I know much and more of service." Those two statements shouldn't have a "but" between them.

Maester Orwyle continues to be the surprise MVP of the greens.

The Master of Laws Iron Rod getting dialogue? The rumor mill works fast in Westeros.

I like that the nobility are putting so much resistance to lowborn claiming dragons. If there's anything that threatens highborn, it's social mobility.

For "20 years the lords of this realm levied insults against my sons," Jace confirmed to be 20. So he's just one year younger than Aegon? Now that wouldn't make sense because Rhaenyra wasn't even married during Aegon's first nameday during that hunt episode. Good to know Jace has been aged up though. He, Aegon, and Cregan are probably all in the same ballpark age.

I love Addam's acting, he's almost as expressive as TGC. But why are the interaction scenes on this show so short? "The family doesn't know how to communicate their feelings" yeah, yeah, but at least write down for them to have SOMETHING to say. Corlys came to this room literally just to say 6 words.

They should have given Oscar Tully red hair to make him stand out from the Riverlords. The scales on his armor are cool, but there should be more to visually signal that this kid is basically a petty king.

The camera following it's actors from the back is kinda...not doing it for me. I don't wanna see their hunched backs, I want to look at the sets and their faces.

"We honor the old ways." Most of y'all don't, though? Only certain houses in the Riverlands worship the Old Gods, one of them being the Blackwoods who are being accused of going against the "old ways." What do the HBO writers think the "old ways" mean?

Out of all decapitations on this series, this one had the least punch. Music and sound design did all the heavy lifting.

STOP SHOWING THEIR BACKS I DON'T WANNA SEE THE ACTORS' BACKS ANYMORE

Also, I can't imagine how this war will end if the Blackwoods aren't black loyalists. With Daemon executing their House head, I don't see them being that enthusiastic about supporting Rhaenyra anymore. Are they just gonna replace Benjicot with Oscar? And Aly is just...gone now? Who's gonna stop Cregan Stark then?

Again, we're just letting whoever inside the king's room even when he says they can't come in? Guards really suck on this show.

Alyn's voice is like honey. I could listen to this man read audio books.

And they just let the Targaryen princess run off like that? The guards on this show really suuuuuuuuck.

Poor Rickard Thorne dragged into Alicent's impromptu camping trip.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEY JACE, LOVE CLASSIST JACE. LOVE AEGON'S DREAM CRITICAL JACE. EEEEEY JACE AWARE THAT WHEN RHAENYRA DIES PEOPLE WON'T ACCEPT HIM. LOVE LOVE LOVE IT. Finally some character drama and juicy interpersonal conflict that makes sense with characters clearly stating their stance through dialogue and we don't have to fill in the blanks as the audience. I was so starved. They actually made what was in the book better with this one.

I like Hugh the Hammer's new storyline, sue me. It's a cliche call-to-adventure fantasy peg, but I like it.

"I need more dragons to end bloodshed." Rhaenyra, what do you think dragons do? Rhaenyraaaaaaa

Beautiful Vermithor shot. And of course they leave all these innocent poor people to the mercy of a merciless behemoth. Ugh, beautiful, blood sacrifice, cruelty, impressive sfx, yessss.

CLAIM THAT DRAGON. CLAIM THAT DRAGON. DO IT NAMED CHARACTER, you have a name and backstory so you can do it!

"Come on!!!" Vermithor: Well...when you put it like that, I suppose.

Nana Silverwing! She looks gorgeous.

WAIT, WHY DID THEY TAKE HER TO KING'S LANDING??? WHY IS KL AND DRAGONSTONE LITERALLY 5 MINUTES AWAY

[catofadifferentcolor]

Terrible Fic Idea #72: Game of Thrones, but make it Ptolemaic

There's something fascinating about the way the Ptolemys took over Egypt following the death of Alexander the Great - sure, anyone can conquer, but it takes an interesting mind to look around for ways to legitimate their rule and fall on sibling marriage as the solution. Yes, it was common among certain royal dynasties, but the Macedonian Greeks, from whom the Ptolemys descended, despised it. I would love a snapshot into how that first sibling marriage came to be.

It was this in mind I stumbled upon the idea for my next terrible fic idea: What if Jon and Robb were not of age with each other?

Aka: The Weirwood Queen Fic

Just imagine it:

Everything follows canon, with two exceptions: 1) Lyanna dies giving birth to a daughter at the Tower of Joy. Ned names the girl after their favorite Great-Aunt, Jocelyn; and 2) Catelyn loses the child she conceives on her wedding night.

(Robb is still born, but his birth date and the birth dates of all the other Stark children are pushed back two years.)

Now, it is one thing to return from war with a bastard when your wife has just given birth to a legitimate heir; it is quite another thing to return from war with a bastard after she miscarried. For this reason Ned choses to pass Jocelyn off as his brother Brandon's bastard daughter with Ashara Dayne.

Jocelyn's childhood is similar in many ways to canon, but not. Without her "twin" or any trueborn siblings to draw attention away, most of the castle dotes on young Jocelyn. Even once her cousins are born, Jocelyn remains the oldest of the lot, filled with the confidence that a child only has when they know they are loved. She loves her cousins in turn, but with the age gap they're never quite as close as canon, and she's more nursemaid for the younger ones than a playmate.

Catleyn, of course, loathes her, and begs for her to be sent away - which she eventually is. But instead of sending Jocelyn to the Silent Sisters, or across the sea, or marrying her off to a loyal man-at-arms stationed on the edge of Stark lands... Ned accepts widowed Rickard Karstark's offer for Jocelyn's hand. He's a loyal bannerman whose family has often wed Stark bastards and was notorious for his care and devotion to his first wife. It is the best Ned can do for her.

And so Jocelyn becomes the second Lady Karstark, which is awkward, as her stepsons are quite a bit older than her and her stepdaughter Alys is only six months younger, but Jocelyn thrives as a lady of a Northern House. Her husband is kind enough and largely allows her to run the house as she will, which is as best as she could have hoped for in a marriage.

By the time King Robert rides north two years later than canon, Jocelyn has given birth to a son, Brandon, and is pregnant with a daughter, Lyanna.

Canon continues apace, if somewhat delayed. Ned becomes hand of the king and loses his head. The North rises up, names Robb King in the North... and Rickard's sons Torrhen and Edward are killed by Jaime Lannister, for which Rickard kills two hostages. Robb still choses to execute Rickard Karstark.

Meanwhile, Jocelyn has been rallying forces to take Winterfell back from the Greyjoy's in the North. She succeeds, only to learn within the week that her cousin has made her a widow.

Jocelyn quietly rages. She'd never loved her husband, but she'd been fond of him. It's the hypocrisy that gets her most - because the Starks have always put family first, but she's known from the beginning that some family counts more than others, otherwise Ned would have never killed her uncle Arthur, or led her mother Ashara to throw herself off a tower, or allowed his son to think it fitting to kill her husband while they knew Jocelyn was preparing to take back his home for him.

And so what you have is Jocelyn continuing to rule Winterfell in her cousin's name but largely acting on her own, never outright ignoring Robb's commands while he's still alive but following the letter rather than the spirit of the order.

This continues for some time, with Jocelyn Queen of the North in all but name after the Red Wedding - holding off the Boltons and the Greyjoys - and gaining the respect of the North.

Into this enter Bran (as played by the Three-Eyed Raven) and baby Rickon.

After four or five years of playing Regent for Sansa, still held hostage in King's Landing, the last thing Jocelyn wants to do is give up power to her thirteen year of cousin who 1) spent the last five years beyond the Wall, letting her do all the hard work of ruling and 2) has no idea what the political situation is in the North. Most of the Northern lords feel similarly and insist Bran and Jocelyn wed, if only so Jocelyn can continue what she's been doing while Bran learns the ropes.

Jocelyn is even less happy about this, but goes along with it in name only, sleeping in a separate part of the castle.

This goes on for about two years, Bran making all sorts of subtle attempts to undermine Jocelyn's rule that - if they'd succeeded - would only have destabilized the North. Jocelyn is gearing up to have him declared addled by his trip beyond the Wall when she catches Bran - or, rather, the Three-Eyed Raven - trying to jump ship into Jocelyn's son seven-year-old son, Brandon Karstark, who with his Targaryen and Stark blood would make a better host.

Explaining to her bannermen just why she murdered her second husband is a challenge, but the evidence - that he was trying to kill her son - is rather irrefutable. Unfortunately, it leaves her in the same position as before, this time having to marry her her ten-year-old cousin Rickon to continue ruling the North.

Through all of this, it should be clear Jocelyn is doing this less out of desire for personal power - though there is a glimmer of that, especially when certain lords demand she give up her regency to man - then desire to stabilize the North. Ned and Robb had gone south, and it had nearly cost the North everything. All Jocelyn wants to do is keep the madness consuming the south from infecting the North too.

Meanwhile, Daenerys and Young Griff have joined forces in Essos, married, and begun their reconquest of Westeros. Amid the chaos, they succeed brilliantly.

They leave the North for last, attempt to replay the submission of Torrhen, but in a much weaker position than The Conqueror was - they have dragons, but winter is setting in and their martial might is largely exhausted by a decade of warfare. Regardless, Jocelyn tells Rickon to bend the knee, realizing the North can't survive on its own for long. For this they get many concessions - a break in taxes, the title of Prince of the North, and the betrothal of the Dany and Young Griff's son and daughter to Jocelyn's children Lyanna and Brandon Karstark respectively.

Jocelyn continues to rule the North, largely without the input of her third husband, who after his majority largely spends his time in Dany and Young Griff's ongoing military campaigns - putting down rebellions throughout their empire, pirates in the Stepstones, and the like - until he is killed crossing a river in Essos. The title of Prince of the North falls to Jocelyn's son, Brandon Karstark, who drops the Kar from his name and rules well - with the help of his mother.

Bonuses include: 1) Jocelyn never expressing anything other than familial fondness for any of her husbands, never sleeping with the second two, and largely being presented as an aromantic asexual who because of societal expectations forces herself to try to have romantic/sexual feelings for her first husband, fails, and then keeps her second two firmly in the baby cousins category; 2) An exploration of family dynamics in Westeros - specifically, what it means to be on the outside looking in as a bastard and knowing that your uncle and cousin don't seem to count the death of your mother, mother's brother, or husband as kinslaying, and being a woman allowed to hold the reins of power while the men are away and being expected to turn everything over to the first male claimant who shows up after you've done all the hard work; 3) The Three-Eyed Raven putting on a masterclass of how to be subtly creepy enough to cause everyone around him to think they're imagining things, when in reality it's worse than they imagined, and having been working even beyond the Wall to help bring about the Targaryen Restoration; 4) No one ever suspecting Jocelyn as being Rhaegar's daughter, and historians using the Valeryian looks her children have with their Targaryen spouses as proof Young Griff was really Prince Aegon; and 5) An exploration of the North, its traditions, and its religion, with Jocelyn somewhat inadvertently bringing about a revival of the last two through her desire to Damnatio Memoriae her late and unlamented Aunt Catelyn.

And that's all I have. I suppose its not as ptolemaic as it could be, but I was thinking of Cleopatra VII and her marriages to her two younger brothers as I wrote it, so. As always, feel free to adopt this plot bunny, just link back if you ever do anything with it.

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[ladycatofwinterfell]

I am wondering if you have any thoughts/head-canon/ideas about Minisa Tully and Lyarra Stark. I always get a little sad thinking about them and how GRRM won't give the fandom any info on either of them.

It’s criminal that grrm says so little about them. Like we know a lot of things about Hoster and Rickard but absolutely nothing about their wives. So here are my visions of who they were

Okay so Lyarra was half Flint of the mountains and Old Nan tells Bran that’s where he got the climbing from. Which makes me think that perhaps Lyarra, like Lyanna and Arya, was not as traditional of a lady as is expected. The way I see her she got the wolf’s blood from her Stark father, but maybe wasn’t quite as strong willed as her daughter. In my head she has the Stark look, but with more typically handsome features. Brandon got his looks from her, not Rickard. I think she was a firm, but kind mother that cared for her children’s success and that she agreed with Rickard on fostering both Ned and Brandon. She wanted all four of her children to be prepared for the world so that they would be, you know, strong enough to survive the winter.

I imagine her marriage to Rickard wasn’t a love match and that they never really fell in love, but that they cared for one another in a friendly way and respected each other as life partners. She was his lady wife and his advisor, but not his love. That respect means she can disagree with him without it being too big of a deal and that he valued her advise even as he sometimes thought her to be a little too hotheaded.

Lyarra was well liked among the northern people and quite social and outgoing. Quick to make jokes and smile while also not being a people pleaser. Could perhaps be seen as a little mean sometimes.

We have no pointer as to when or how she died (according to the wiki it might have been as late as 299AC lol), but I headcanon she died of sickness shortly before or after Ned was sent to be fostered in the Eyrie because that means a very big shift in the family. It could also be why Ned chooses not to think of it too much because it was overall quite a painful time of his life as he was separated from his family in the middle of losing his mother. The little Starks that remained in Winterfell and Rickard all mourned her deeply and tried to find support in each other. Her death was swift and unexpected as she was a strong and lively person. One day she was fine, the next she had perished.

Minisa, on the other hand, I think was a softer person in general. Not too soft though because she was a Whent and I just know something is up there. Like she grew up in Harrenhal, there were ghosts in her childhood home. The way I picture her she has a sort of haunted look over her because of being quite pale and thin with big and sort of sad eyes. This made even worse later in life when she had lost so many babies. Still considered a beautiful woman by most, though.

The marriage to Hoster is a strategic move from her family, it’s not a love match. I think they did come to love one another over time though, but that Hoster’s obsession with a male heir made him subconsciously value that over Minisa. Minisa, being all about her duty and really wanting to give her husband a healthy son, never protested against his continued attempts at having a son even as each of her pregnancies were very hard on her and that she grew weaker with every birth. I see it as sort of a Viserys/Aemma situation. It’s canon that eventually it was childbirth that killed her, even as she had already given birth to Edmure.

She was a softer parent than Hoster and was very protective of the children she had that actually survived. I think (might be misremembering) that Catelyn remembers her as being warm and gentle. Before Edmure was born I think Catelyn became very much Hoster’s kid due to being his presumed heir for the time and so Minisa doted a lot on Lysa because Lysa was more hers. Can see her turning into a little bit of a boy mom, much to little Lysa’s dismay, after Edmure was born due to the relief of actually having given birth to a male heir. Still she was keen on her two younger children not growing up too quickly the way Catelyn was doing.

Most everyone liked her. She made an effort to always be kind and gentle and stuck to the social rules. Maybe she became more drawn back later in her life due to becoming weaker and more sickly after her numerous difficult pregnancies. When she wasn’t too weary she enjoyed tending to the flower in the gardens surrounding the sept. Only after her death did they become known as Minisa’s gardens.

After her death Riverrun became a colder place as she brought a warmth to the castle that Hoster couldn’t quite do himself. Hoster, even as he was the reason for her death, mourned her deeply and ended up leaning on Catelyn due to her being the oldest one. Of his three children she looks the most like his late wife.

[atopvisenyashill]

Who has it worst? Genderflip!Robert or Stannis as Rhaegar's Baratheon bride? Like I doubt either would be very happy in their marriage but how does the rebellion play out?

I think girl Stannis honestly.

Girl Robert would be, at least I imagine she’d be, like kind of an Alyssa Targaryen esque lady who tries to wear armor and loves to fuck and drink. I think Rhaegar would see her as a very strong Valyrian woman who would give him the kids he needs for his prophecy. While Robert would find the prophecy stuff weird as SHIT I think they’d probably be like, mostly okay, especially if Robert has three kids. And Lyanna would be a different problem - by that I mean she’s engaged to someone else, it MIGHT be stannis but it might not bc stannis & ned are NOT gonna be besties in the vale the way nedbert were. Would Rhaegar still try something stupid? I mean yeah, but we’re looking at a wildly different type of rebellion here that MIGHT not even be HIS fault. I think a girl Robert could wind up being crafty enough - kinda like a Sabitha Frey or Johanna Lannister - to get herself out of that sort of situation alive, if the issue is Aerys’ madness and not Rhaegar’s. If we assume Robert only has two kids, and Rhaegar still makes off with Lyanna, the rebellion is in the hands of Stannis and Ned, and if they roll up to the capital and Tywin has killed Stannis’ older sister…I mean that feels like Tywin has a suicide wish ya kno lol, like I think he’d handle that way different. Altho even then, I mean, Robert is the face of the rebellion because if the Lyanna connection. If Stannis isn’t engaged, is he even a big part of the rebellion? I think he’d join the rebellion bc of the murders of Brandon, Rickard, et al, but I think this becomes The Stark Rebellion.

But girl Stannis…..I mean listen we don’t know why Stannis doesn’t like sex. Maybe hes gay. Maybe he’s asexual. Maybe he just has a low sex drive but wouldn’t identify with either of those labels. Maybe he’s mostly shooting blanks and Shireen was dumb luck. Point is I don’t think it’s likely a girl Stannis is going to like sex any more, and I think she’s going to resent Rhaegar a lot. Even if she has three kids, and the rebellion is all Aerys’ fault, she’s having a rough time. But if she only has two kids, things could go roughly the same as in canon…and having Robert’s sister in hand is going to make Aerys CRAZY when the rebellion kicks off. Not only that, but Rhaegar making a pass at his wife’s soon to be sister in law? Oh my god. Just tacky ass behavior. Girl Stannis is fucjing miserable and in a lot more danger from her father in law bc it’s her brother who is waging war against the crown. Messy messy.

[melrosing]

I’ve seen your Joanna headcannons. What about lyarra stark? Part of me thinks she could be really wild but the other part thinks she could be a patriarchy enforcer like Rickard was. Then again my mom was a ceiling glass breaker but started to deter my sisters and I from that sort of behaviour as we became teens which oh course didn’t work we were tough nuts and party girls.

She's another tricky one... I'd love to know more about Lyarra but for whatever reason we know less about her than almost any other notable dead lady. Which is pretty fucking odd, given this is House Stark we're talking about - we know about ten times as much about Joanna and Rhaella (and they're a pretty low bar) - Lannister and Targaryen are the other two of the big three houses in the story, so you'd think we'd know about as much about the Stark matriarch as we do Joanna and Rhaella. but no lol. There are at least some sketchy details to work with with the UPOD (and she doesn't even have a name!!), and we even have more for Cassana Baratheon née Estermont and Minisa Tully née Whent - granted, no more than the fact that Cassana died in a shipwreck, and Minisa is vaguely remembered in Cat's chapters, but at least they're in the books. Lyarra is never even mentioned on the page - her name comes from an appendix, there's nothing else to go on. And this is really annoying to me lol

So I guess anything I imagine about Lyarra has no real basis besides my own tastes, but I do picture her as another parent who had favourites, and that hers were Brandon and Lyanna. I imagine her as having a bit of the wolf's blood in her as well, and she was proud to have children who shared it. We don't know how she died so I just hc her passing away of an illness (surprisingly few dead people in ASOIAF have just 'sickness' as cause of death lol it's like GRRM you don't have to say 'in childbirth' every damn time) in Ned's early-to-mid teenage years.

But yeah I don't imagine her as a perfect benevolent matriarch... this is definitely headcanon territory, but I picture Ned as having been a little bit of an odd one out in his family, where he ends up kind of pushed to the back behind all the big personalities, and with Brandon soaking up all the limelight and their parents' attentions. It's interesting to me that Rickard (and Lyarra?) worked hard on good matches for Brandon and Lyanna but seemingly never made one for Ned, so he was very much a second son.

And yeah the feeling I get about Lyanna is that she was a version of Arya who grew up with more validation and less judgement for the ways she didn't conform (hence why Ned is largely accepting of Arya's non-conformity as well) - so Lyarra was maybe an outdoorsy type as well who wanted to share her hobbies with her daughter.

Ultimately I don't imagine the prev gen Starks chafing much amongst themselves, and that Lyarra, whilst having favourites, wasn't ever unpleasant to Ned - but her preferences were obvious enough that it led to some private hurt on his part, and resentment towards Brandon, that then turns to guilt after Brandon's death (more thoughts on the Ned/Brandon r/ship here). However, I also hc Ned and Lyanna as very close in their youth, so being Lyarra's least favourite son is a little made up for in being Lyanna's fave brother uwu

[writingsofwesteros]

Such a scenario came to my mind. I wanted to share with you. Dark Rickard Stark (Lyanna's father) and Targaryen reader. Targaryen reader is the sister of Aerys 2 or Steffon Baratheon. She has completely inherited the Targaryen appearance. She is called the beauty of the land. Rickard has heard a lot about the sweet dragon. He sees the Targaryen reader by chance at a tournament and falls in love. (Obsessedly.) Fortune is on Rickard's side. Rickard and Targaryen reader get married. Their first son, Brandon, has violet eyes, pale skin, and Stark hair. Ned inherits all Stark genes, except for his pale skin. Jocelyn inherits pale skin, grey eyes and silver hair. Lyanna inherits pale skin, Stark hair, and violet eyes. Benjen inherits pale skin, Stark hair, and violet eyes. He says a Lord Jocelyn might be a bastard. Because he is the only one among the Stark children with silver hair. After what Rickard did to the Lord, no one says anything bad about the Targaryen reader and his children. Moreover, Jocelyn is a dreamer, just like her mother. Her older brothers are protective of her sister and brother Jocelyn. Rickard never says it out loud, but of all his children, Jocelyn is the most doting. Sweet girl looks a lot like her mother. The Targaryen reader and her daughter Jocelyn wander through the snow wrapped in furs. Other men are afraid to approach these two ladies. Because there is a big and strong wolf behind the two of them. Rickard's majesty and gaze are truly threatening.

!!!! YES PLEASE!!!

Imagine him either wanting to take control of the dynasty as well or he has the North become independent.

[dalekofchaos]

Robert and Lyanna au

Contrary to the fandom's opinion, I believe Robert and Lyanna could've worked out. Robert was well, a hedonistic slut and Lyanna feared he would be unfaithful and unhappy with him. But I think with proper communication and learning to understand one another. I think Robert and Lyanna could've worked and been happy together.

Note. If you don't like the pairing, you literally don't have to read. Just ignore. Good god.

So imagine if after actually listening to Lyanna's worries and fears about her relationship with Robert and taking it to heart. Ned, Brandon and Benjen got together and knocked some sense into the oaf and basically told him "treat our sister with the respect and grace she deserves or we make it look like an accident :)"

Robert takes their advice and threats to heart and decides to change for Lyanna.

At first Robert seeks Lyanna out and tells her what Ned told her and begs her a chance to prove his love for her is real and to truly know the iron underneath her beauty. Lyanna is taken a back and touched by Robert's gesture and accepts Robert's proposal.

Robert would be shown Lyanna’s fighting spirit, her love for riding horses and love for her family. This would make Robert love her more and he’d love the she-wolf and the iron underneath.

Lyanna would be touched to know that Robert wants to know her as a person before they are married and to know that her fears are proven wrong.

Robert and Lyanna spend a lot of time together. Whether he courts her to Storm's End her meets her at Winterfell. Over the course of months, Lyanna begins to like Robert as a person, a friend and her future lord husband.

One day they ride horses together, but one day Lyanna reveals that she always wanted to fight but father would never let her hold a sword. This all changes when Robert offers to teach her to fight like the She-Wolf she was always destined to be.

One day they fight one on one. At first Robert is afraid he will hurt her and then Lyanna knocks him off his ass. Robert laughs his ass off and loves her even more. "Seven hells we could conquer the Others together"

Robert has a sword, armor and shield specially made for Lyanna and calls it the She-Wolf, an armor made in style of Stark & Baratheon and a shield of the wolf and stag and also gifts her a crown of winter roses and as Lord of Storm's End, in private he Knights Lyanna. And Lyanna is finally in love with Robert.

The Tourney at Harrenhal happens. Lyanna becomes the Knight Of The Laughing Tree, to fight for Howland. But something else. Lets say Robert becoming a better men caused insults from Aerys and this angers Lyanna to the point where she decides to win the whole thing.

It ends with Lyanna knocking Rhaegar off his ass and that alone causes Robert to laugh his ass off.

Lyanna would win the tourney, reveal herself and crown Robert as the king of love and beauty.

But I still think Rickard and Brandon would've died. Because of the Southron ambitions theory.

Aerys is still the mad king and via Varys he hears that Lord Rickard, Jon Arryn and Hosster Tully are marrying off their children to form alliances and sees their combined ambition as a threat to his rule, plus Aerys did not take kindly to being insulted at the tourney.

So, Aerys orders the arrest of Lord Rickard. Brandon like the emotional fool that he is demands the head of Aerys and Rhaegar. Brandon and Rickard die the same horrible fate.

Lyanna is enraged by this and calls the banners. Robert's Rebellion becomes Lyanna's Rebellion.

Imagine Robert and Lyanna as the ultimate battle couple. Kicking ass and taking names. Robert was feared in the Rebellion. But Lyanna? "The She-Wolf. The little Direwolf" "Lyanna Dragonbane"

Together Robert and Lyanna would kill Rhaegar.

Maybe with Rhaegar falling on the trident earlier, maybe Ned would’ve made it to King’s Landing before Tywin and the sack does not happen. With no brutal death for Elia and her children, I don’t think there would be resentment between Ned and Robert. Yes the death of Elia and her children was not Robert’s fault, but he did not condemn Tywin and just wanted the rest of the Targaryens to die.

With Elia and her children saved, Dorne backed Robert’s claim, both Princes Doran and Oberyn personally thanked Robert, Ned and Lyanna for saving Elia from being Aerys’ prisoner. Lyanna and Elia would start a friendship. With no battle of the tower of joy. Arthur Dayne would live and I think Arthur would be allowed to leave his post and marry Elia and raise Rhaegar’s children together.

If they reached King’s Landing sooner, let’s say they all reached the Red Keep before Jaime kills Aerys. Ned asks that he not stain your honor and to allow Ned to do the deed. Ned kills the Mad King, which prompts Jaime to tell Ned of Aerys plan to burn KL with Wildfire. Jaime would remain on the Kingsguard with no ill will between Ned or Jaime. And both Ned and Jaime are seen as heroes for failing Aerys’ plans to burn the city.

With the Keep being captured sooner, I feel like Stannis would’ve captured Rhaella, Viserys and the soon to be born Daenerys. Rhaella would survive childbirth, Rhaella and Viserys would be sent to live with Stannis. Viserys would grow disillusioned with Aerys under being raised by Stannis and he would’ve had a close relationship to Shireen. Dany & Rhaella would be sent to live with the Tyrells. Now I know what you’re thinking. The Tyrells are Targaryen loyalists. The Tyrells are smart and went to heel when Robert is crowned. And Dany just wanted a home and to be safe. Dany would have a close relationship with Margaery, Willas, Garlan and Loras. Dany and Viserys would have the occasional visits but now that they are both in a better place, they’re relationships would be closer.

Varys was put to death. With Robert in a better sense, he would know the man to be too dangerous to be left alive, as well as Grand Maester Pyecelle. Ned would kill Littlefinger for one day remarking that Cat gave him a child. A lie of course, but I hate him so Littlefinger dies in my scenario.

Robert and Lyanna would be king and queen. Robert was drinking and eating himself into an early grave because Lyanna was gone. But I think together they could’ve been a great king and queen. They would have three children. Jon Baratheon, Gendry Baratheon, Mya Baratheon, Lyonel Baratheon and Edric Baratheon.

The Greyjoy Rebellion still happens because Balon is an idiot. It happens as in canon. But I think both Theon and Asha would’ve been taken as wards. Theon with Ned and Asha with Lyanna.

There would be another incident after The Greyjoy Rebellion. The Boltons reputation for torture and rape would be too wide to ignore. So the Starks finally put their former bannermen down.

The Freys were gone too. Though that was Stannis and Lyanna’s doing. Neither trusted a man so cowardly and his late arrival to the Trident did not help his case. The Freys would finally be put down after so many years of cowardliness and deceit.

The way I see Robert’s small council the same but Lyanna would take apart of it as Robert valued her council in the war and obviously remove Varys and Littlefinger. Perhaps Doran would be invited as Master of Whispers but sends Elia in his place, and Tywin would be master of coin. Tywin would have to buy his way back into the good graces of the crown. If he could not be hand of the king, he would be master of coin. Still holding power over the crown with his wealth. While he could not have Jaime be Lord of Casterly Rock, he relented and made Cersei the heir of Casterly Rock.

so in total

Hand of the King:Jon Arryn

Master of Whispers:Elia Martell

Grand Maester:Cressen

Lord Commander of the Kingsguard:Barristan Selmy

Master Of Coin:Tywin Lannister

Master of Laws:Renly Baratheon

Master of ships:Stannis Baratheon

Jon would be betrothed to Margaery Tyrell, Robb to Rhaenys Targaryen, Viserys to Arianne Martell, Daenerys to Theon, Asha to Lyonel, Aegon to Arya, and Sansa to Willas Tyrell. That’s what I can see for betrothals so far.

The wolf and stag are together. Robert and Lyanna are happy and in love. Lyanna loves her children. Their children and Ned’s children gets along. Jon loves his aunt Cat and Cat loves Jon. The Lannisters never take power. Littlefinger never obtains power and plunges the realm into war. There is peace in the realm under the rule of Robert Baratheon and Lyanna Stark.

[rise-my-angel]

Broke: Jon has a secret Targ name

Woke: Jon has a secret Stark name

I mean, there have been Starks named Jon and other derivations of it in the past, the guy who built Wolf's Den was called Jon, but I think it would be so funny if he has the name of some important Stark figure, when everyone expects him to have a Valyrian name. Like, just as a 'fuck you' to Rhaegar, Lyanna gave him a classical Stark name, like Torrhen, or maybe named him after Rickard or Brandon. I don't think that's actually what happened, because I doubt Ned would overwrite the name Lyanna picked, but it's funny to imagine that while all the Targ fans are daydreaming about him having a Valyrian name and becoming a full-fledged Targaryen, he was actually called Torrhen or something.

People who think Lyanna STARK, laying dying alone in a bed of her own blood, would name her son after in the honour of the family of the man who ********* [censored for targ stans who get mad at me when I say that].

Lyanna if she named him, would've given him the name of some Stark, or a northern figure in history she admired. Wanting her son to be strong the way she won't be there to teach him to be.

Like, her giving him a Valyrian name makes no sense. People like Alicent Hightower or Elia Martell gave their children Valyrian names because they were married into the royal family and were producing direct heirs to the throne who likely had the expectation they were to be given Valyrian names. I'm willing to bed that if you really looked behind the curtains, they probably had no real choice in their childrens names at all.

Starks and Northerners have a tendency to name their children after each other or Northern figures of history because they are a proud, loyal people. If she gave him a name, it would've been a name connected to her home. To the North, and Winterfell.

You know, the place she told Ned she wanted to return to even as she was dying because she was dying kidnapped on the other side of the country to the place that made her happy.

I like the reason behind Ned naming him Jon, but if Lyanna did give him a name, it would've been a Northern name if not directly named after a Stark. Like naming him Rickard or Brandon after her father and brother who were murdered trying to rescue her. Not after the family who MURDERED half of hers in one year after kidnapping and ********* [imagine a television stock bleep sound effect it makes the censoring funny].

[butterflyintochains]

The Targaryen Baker's Dozen

Just a little AU stem of if Jaehaerys I and Alysanne's children had different fates. Don't know if I'll do anything with this, but here it is.

Prince Aegon Targaryen - still dies in infancy. Born and died in 52 AC.

Princess Daenerys Targaryen - Born in 53 AC. Survives her shivering sickness. Eventual rider of Dreamfyre. Marries the eldest son of Alaric Stark - Eddard Stark, and has four children with him:

Lord Torrhen Stark - Born in 70 AC at Winterfell. Lady Alysanne Stark - Born in 73 AC at Winterfell. Lord Rickard Stark - Born in 75 AC at Winterfell. Lady Lyanna Stark - Born in 79 AC at Winterfell.

Prince Aemon Targaryen - Born in 55 AC. Becomes King, succeeding his father. Rider of Caraxes, owner of Blackfyre. Heir to the throne. Marries Jocelyn Baratheon, and has one daughter:

Princess Rhaenys Targaryen - Born in 74 AC at Dragonstone.

Prince Baelon Targaryen - Born in 57 AC. Rider of Vhagar. Second son and Aemon's best friend. Marries his sister, Alyssa. They have three sons, and Baelon comes into possession of Dark Sister.

Princess Alyssa Targaryen - Born in 60 AC. Rider of Meleys. Second daughter and Daenerys' shadow. Marries her brother, Baelon, and has three sons with him. Alyssa does not die in childbirth:

Prince Viserys Targaryen - Born in 77 AC in King's Landing. Prince Daemon Targaryen - Born in 81 AC in King's Landing. Prince Jaehaerys Targaryen - Born in 84 AC in King's Landing.

Princess Maegelle Targaryen - Born in 62 AC. Becomes a septa and trains as a healer. Dies of greyscale in 96 AC.

Prince Vaegon Targaryen - Born in 63 AC. Becomes a Maester still, specializing in Valyrian history.

Princess Daella Targaryen - Born in 64 AC. Still marries into House Arryn, but to Rodrik's son - Jonnel Arryn, and gives him one daughter, it's a struggle, but she does, however, survive Aemma's birth.:

Lady Aemma Arryn - Born in 82 AC in The Eyrie.

Princess Saera Targaryen - Born in 67 AC. The dramatic sister(tm), never does things by halves, elopes with Ser William Blackwood and weds him. Giving him three children:

Lady Jocelyn Blackwood - Born in 86 AC at Raventree Hall. Lady Bethany Blackwood - Born in 90 AC at Raventree Hall. Lord Brandon Blackwood - Born in 90 AC at Raventree Hall.

Princess Viserra Targaryen - Born in 71 AC. The beauty queen of the family, with her finger on the pulse of courtly gossip. But, marries Lord Lyonel Dayne, and has five children with him:

Lord Arthur Dayne - Born in 87 AC at Starfall. Lady Baelon Dayne - Born in 89 AC at Starfall. Lord Clarissa Dayne - Born in 92 AC at Starfall. Lady Dyanna Dayne - Born in 95 AC at Starfall. Lady Elaena Dayne - Born in 99 AC in King's Landing.

Prince Gaemon Targaryen - still dies in infancy. Born in 73 AC, dies in 74 AC.

Prince Aenys Targaryen - Born in 77 AC. The wild child of the family, but eventually becomes a knight and joins the Kingsguard.

Princess Gael Targaryen - Born in 80 AC dies in 99 AC. Her mother's favourite, born with a learning disability, is a lovely girl who loves animals. However, dies birthing a son from a brief affair with a court bard.

Prince Aegon Targaryen, born in 99 AC. raised by Aemon and Jocelyn.

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Elaena and Aegon are the last grandchildren born before Alysanne passes away in 100 AC. Rhaena dies the year Daenerys gets married here, in 70 AC, a slight bit earlier, I imagine all the trauma of her life catching up to her.

I've changed Valerion's name to Aenys, I just felt as if Jaehaerys and Alysanne could honour their mother, they should also honour their father. And, Valerion sounds like the Targaryen equivalent of, like, Paris Hilton. Naming a child after a physical place.

Overall, I'm kinda pleased with this one. I imagine Aemon and Baelon would rule as almost co-Kings in a way, and Jocelyn and Alyssa would be co-Queens in effect if not in law.

Queen Alyssa still marries Rogar Baratheon, and has Boremund and Jocelyn, and, due to her advanced age at the time, I couldn't save her. But, more of her grandchildren do go on to have better lives and fates of their own.

[wardensantoineandevka]

I imagine, given that Calorum is food people Westeros, some feel that Fontina's execution is very death of Viserys because of the manner (and it is a fair feeling!), but given its place in political history and general context, I feel that it has more of a vibe like the deaths of Rickard and Brandon Stark.