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[exvangelical-christian-nerd]

Some thoughts on "Hell is Forever"

TW religion, conservative Christianity

Hell is Forever is a bop. Musically I enjoy it a lot. And It's definitley one I'll go listen to separatelyfrom the others on occasion.

But

It is also probably the song that bothers me the most. And it does not bother me in a way I like. I've talked about before, how I like things that poke at my beliefs and make me ask questions. This one doesn't do that. This song is like a buzzing fly to my inner-theologian, and I think I figured out why (Ironically it might also be one of the reasons I enjoy it)

So I've been working on some of my series type content lately, including my devos. I'm trying to make a series based on the Hazbin songs (if that is something you're interested in let me know in the comments and I will try to tag you when I start posting them). Naturally this includes Hell is Forever.

The thing about Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss is that by their very nature they include some theology, but a good portion of it is hellaverse-ified. Some of it is theology and some Christian lore. It's part of the draw. Here's the diffrence between Hell is Forever, and most of the rest of it: Hell is Forever addresses real Theology, more or less directly. I'd say more than, possibly, any other part of either show so far.

Now before I go any farther let's make sure we all have the same definitions so my meaning doesn't get mixed up.

Real Theology= Theology actually believed by a fair portion of people.

Good Theology= Theology that is grounded and has biblical backing.

Bad Theology= Opposite of Good Theology

So yes, Hell is Forever has Real Theology. Here's the thing that gets me though: I wouldn't consider most of it Good Theology. In fact I would consider most of it Bad Theology.

Now the thing with Theology is that our interpretation of it is flawed. We don't know a lot and we don't agree on a lot. That's why there are tens of thousands of denominations. But the particular brand we get in this song is what I'm going to call "Bible Thumper Theology." Not all Bible Thumper Theology is necessarily Bad Theology, but plenty of it is. But honestly I have three major issues with Bible Thumper Theology. First is that it's weaponized. Whether your Theology is good or bad, using it as a weapon is risky business. Second, it's often pretty weak. Even if the theological concept is solid, their understanding of it is usually surface level at best. And third, so much of it is just cherry picking.

So here are the main theological points I identified in Hell is Forever. I'm not going to go deep into them now, because that would make this already long post way to long, and because I'm already planning on making posts specifically on them.

Hell is forever (Obviously)

Eye for an eye Theology (I don't know what else to call it)

Justification by the law (or works)

Justified k1ll1ng (which is obviously super yikes)

Now there are few others in there too, but I'd say these are the main ones. As I said I'm plannin to address these more later, though the first one, I'm still waffling on whether I want to tackle that or not. The primary reason being that I do believe eternal damnation is eternal (as much as I wish I didn't), however I am not going to join the fire and brimstone brigade. There are too many of them all ready. If I do tackle it, it will probably be about why I take issue with the fire and brimstone brigade.

But yes all that to say, Hell is Forever bothers me because it's essentially just Bible Thumper Theology, and Bible Thumper Theology annoys me because it's what makes the church as a whole look bad, and usually it is pretty Bad Theology.

Honestly most of the time someone starts spewing this kind of stuff at me, I can't help but think "Have you read your Bible, or do you just believe what your pastor tells you?" Is my theology flawless? Not a chance (If anyone ever says their's is, approach with extreme caution, or better yet don't approach at all). I am seeking and trying to sort out what I believe. And I'm growing.

Ironically, I think part of the thing I like about Hell is Forever is that the people spewing the bullshit are the villains. I have too often seen them up on a pedestal.

[alienbycomics]

Gender Nonconforming Jesus: A look at art history. CW: religion, transphobia, artistic nudity, depictions of open wounds (Long post)

Here’s a link to the original comic: Trans Jesus

[lightoml]

[thepeacefulgarden]

[potato-lord-but-not]

things you make after thinking about your girlfriend for too long while down with a cold

[all1inchrist]

"The rainbow is God's symbol."

Damn right it is. Damn right it's God's symbol of mercy, love, acceptance, and all the things you seem to lack. I'm glad you can't look at a rainbow without thinking of all God's children whom you despise. I'm glad we've forced you to confront the truth of exactly who God is and exactly who is under the banner of His love. The rainbow is God's symbol and you have no right to stop me from clothing myself in it.

[max-thinks-dogs]

My favourite art I drew in 2024 by using my mystical and magical powers 🐅 The two middle ones are illustrations based on my (ongoing) webcomic which you can find here:

[frontmansdefender]

# do you think the Pope is catholic enough if he’s not homophobic

#or maybe you’re not catholic. just hateful and homophobic

[bizarreaizen]

religious conservatives: no sex before marriage !!

asexuals: okay

religious conservatives: wait no, not like that Σ(゜゜) /hj

[ant-niyah]

More are for Existential Crisis Mode Chat 😈😈

As always please go show @luciaintheskyainthi some love for her work 🙏🙏🙏

Live laugh love SpideyHood chat

(Omg speaking of ship names, once while reading a SpideyHood fic, in a comment someone called them something that wasn’t “SpideyHood”!! It was so amazing (mainly bc im a nerd) and I spent like 30-50 minutes trying to find it after like 4-6 chapters and couldn’t.😞 So like if anyone knows what it coulda been PLEASE tell me!!!🙏🙏😞😞 It had blood in the name I think!!!)

Omg also when i hear these, i think of them !

I literally can’t explain why 😔😔

“The Blonde” but instead of it saying girl it says boy and it’s that one meme where when it says “And who’s gonna kiss the brown-haired girls?” and someone says “I VOLUNTEER! I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE!!” Because what is Jason if not a lovesick boy :(

Fable just lowkey hurts my feelings and it’s Pete!!

(Also ik Pete was raised in a very loving home and stuff… but imagine Petey with their fake backstory but it’s real!!! Ik you wrote that but imagine it with them being homophobic and teaching him it’s wrong and a sin :( (yes i love giving Peter a hard HARD time))

(im actually gonna throw this into your asks)

[alienbycomics]

A comic I made last year about how my past selves would react to seeing me now 🏳️‍⚧️

[lightoml]

reminder to all my other queer Christian siblings out there

you are not alone 🩵 God loves you. you are fearfully and wonderfully made. God made you with a lot of care and consideration. you are a work of art, and He is the artist. He loves you so much!!!! you are not alone!!!!

[odinsblog]

This is an illegitimate and deeply corrupt Supreme Court

Today is a sad day in American constitutional law and in the lives of LGBT people. The Supreme Court of the United States declares that a particular kind of business, though open to the public, has a constitutional right to refuse to serve members of a protected class. The Court does so for the first time in its history. By issuing this new license to discriminate in a case brought by a company that seeks to deny same-sex couples the full and equal enjoyment of its services, the immediate, symbolic effect of the decision is to mark gays and lesbians for second-class status. In this way, the decision itself inflicts a kind of stigmatic harm, on top of any harm caused by denials of service. The opinion of the Court is, quite literally, a notice that reads: "Some services may be denied to same-sex couples."

Today, the Court, for the first time in its history, grants a business open to the public a constitutional right to refuse to serve members of a protected class. Specifically, the Court holds that the First Amendment exempts a website-design company from a state law that prohibits the company from denying wedding websites to same-sex couples if the company chooses to sell those websites to the public.

The Court also holds that the company has a right to post a notice that says, "No [wedding websites] will be sold if they will be used for gay marriages."

Our Constitution contains no right to refuse service to a disfavored group.

—Justice Sonia Sotomayor; excerpts from the dissenting opinion

[what-shitfuckery-is-this-ew]

everyday i cry cause God made me genderfluid but not a shapeshifter

[originalzin]

So I got a new therapist.

[basket-of-loquats]

The Death of Saint Sebastian

[image description: a digital painting of a young fit man with olive skin and dark curly hair. He has his arms raised and his face is partially hidden by his upper right arm as he looks out over it. Three arrows stick out from his body, one in his chest, one in his ribs, and one in his back. Blood leaks from the wounds and splatters onto his face. A single tear slips from his eye as he glares out at the viewer with an expression of anger and grief. A halo is behind his head. A desaturated golden border surrounds the piece with icons of arrows along the sides. Seven sprigs of lavender sprout up in front of the man. End ID.