#real vampires

[blackrosesociety-vampyres]

Vampire Community Research: Social History and Narrative Identity Themes Within Self-Identified Vampires

This article has originally been published on Black Rose Society's website: https://blackrosesociety.sauromatos.com/vampire-community-research-social-functioning-and-narrative-identity-themes-within-self-identified-vampires/

We interviewed our very own Luna Luv about her ongoing research project on the narrative themes in identity development and social history of people within the Vampire Community. In providing you with a closer look into some of the goals, challenges and other details pertaining to this research effort, it is our hope you will be motivated to be part of the survey and tell your friends.

Black Rose Society is assisting Vampire Community Researcher Luna Luv with hosting a survey that hopes to identify trends in the social history and identity formation of self-identified vampires. The results of this independent study will be drafted up into an article/paper titled “Social Functioning and Narrative Identity Themes Within Self-Identified Vampires,” which will be published and distributed exclusively within the vampire community, including the Black Rose Society’s website.

You are invited to share the link to this survey between your friends within the community. We are looking for responses from all corners of the Online Vampire Community

Our purpose: Self-identified vampires, that is, people who choose to identify themselves as a vampire or as possessing vampiric traits, often come from vastly different philosophical and ideological backgrounds. This survey asks for historical accounts from individuals who identify as vampires (or vampire-adjacent, i.e. medsangs, vampirekin, etc.) which pertain to both their identity and social development. Responses, while anonymous, will assist us in finding trends in social history and identity narrative development that may exist between identity types, or further serve to individuate them.

This survey will take approximately 10-20 minutes to complete. Responses cannot be saved to come back to later, so please set aside appropriate time for yourself to complete the survey. Please provide as much or as little information as you are comfortable.

NOTE: SIGNING INTO A GOOGLE ACCOUNT IS REQUIRED TO PREVENT APPLICANTS FROM FILLING OUT THE SURVEY MULTIPLE TIMES. NO ACCOUNT DATA IS STORED OR RECORDED BY THE RESEARCHERS INVOLVED.

TAKE THE SURVEY

Interview with Researcher Luna Luv

BRS: What motivated you to conduct a survey?

Luna Luv: I’ve always had a lot of interest in why people do what they do, vamps included. I don’t think there’s ever going to be a concise answer to that question, but I do think that there are ways of getting a little bit closer to that understanding in some cases. Extending from that, I thought that this research area might be very valuable, especially since psychological perspectives have generally been considered distasteful within the community — and definitely not for no reason. Most articles in psych journals mentioning “real vampires” are often sensationalist or align us all with sexual deviancy and/or pica, which in my opinion displays a fundamental misunderstanding or perhaps disinterest in our psychology. I thought a survey like this would be a way of showing the community that a psychological approach isn’t intrinsically invalidating, and can actually serve to provide us with meaningful insight into what makes us align with the archetype “vampire.” I figured a survey would be a good way of obtaining some qualitative and quasi-quantitative data on the topic.

BRS: How have the responses been so far?

Luna Luv: I’ve really been surprised by how much interest this has gotten. The survey has only been out for around 3 months and we already have close to 60 responses. I definitely see us being able to hit our goal of 100 by the 1-year mark, and hopefully if this keeps up we’ll be able to greatly surpass it. I’m really humbled by how many people have reached out to me and expressed the potential value they see in the study, and I’m so excited to share what we find with the community.

BRS: Can you tell us about your background?

Luna Luv: I’ve got a Master’s degree in mental health counseling and am currently working out of the US, with hopes to pursue a doctoral degree in psychology in the future. Consider this survey practicing for my thesis, haha. As for my relationship to the vampire community, I’m a lifelong medsang who only discovered the word roughly 5 years ago. I’ve dabbled a bit in the offline scene but I’ve made my home in the online spaces, primarily Black Rose Society.

BRS: What are your goals for this survey?

Luna Luv: My primary goal is to identify if the existing relationships we’ve seen between one’s social development (how they learn where they belong) and identity development (how they learn who they are) can extend to the development of one’s vampiric identity, and if so, what the primary influential factors are. What lessons have we learned to tell ourselves, and when did we learn them? Or what other struggles may run parallel — perhaps our vampiric self-discovery coincided with other unique discoveries about ourselves, such as our gender identity or sexuality. I believe it would be worthwhile to see if we can find any significant correlations in these areas.

BRS: What is the timeline for obtaining the results?

Luna Luv: Initially, I wanted to run data collection from March 2024 to March 2025 and have the paper out by the end of the year. However, considering how much traction this survey has gotten thus far, and how we’ve only recently begun expanding to other social media sites, that deadline is likely to be pushed. I wish I could give a definitive answer — all I can say is that I’m going to try for December 2025, but this may not end up being feasible. 2026 at the latest! Haha

BRS: What challenges did you encounter while organizing this survey in the OVC?

Luna Luv: Honestly, and I should’ve expected this — mistrust. Which is entirely fair; the Vampire Community holds anonymity as something sacred, and in designing this survey it was my intention to preserve our respondents’ anonymity as much as possible. The purpose of utilizing Google Forms to host the survey, in addition to not having access to a more secure survey-hosting site at the time of development, is to prevent (or at least minimize) the submission of multiple responses. However, this requires a respondent to log into a Gmail account, which a few people were not thrilled by. This is why I make a point to emphasize that no account data is stored or recorded by any of the researchers involved in the study, and the email address utilized to access the study is not collected.

BRS: Are there any potential biases, either from your role as the survey organizer or among the participants?

Luna Luv: Oh, absolutely. The primary one being that the survey is being shared almost exclusively through social media, and as such the majority of the responses involve people who primarily participate in the online community. Unfortunately, I personally do not have much access to offline community spaces which may be able to blast this study to community members who may otherwise not see it. Regarding my own biases, I definitely have my own perspective on vampirism based in my personal experiences and knowledge-base. I do not intend on hiding this fact — rather, I simply wish to add my own perspective to the pool of discussions surrounding the nature of whatever it is we’re all going through. Perhaps we will find a more substantial relationship between the specific flavor of one’s vampiric identity and other common factors in their social development history, or even demographic information.

BRS: Lastly, is there anything you would like to say to our readership?

Luna Luv: I appreciate each and every one of you for taking the time to even look at my little project. I’m not trying to pretend that this is some extremely thorough and well-put-together study that’s going to have groundbreaking ramifications on the community… This is just something that I’m really interested in and passionate about, and I’m so humbled by how many people have expressed interest in what I’m doing. I can’t even begin to express how grateful I am for the support I’ve gotten. Thank you all so much for reading, and participating if you have!

BLACK ROSE SOCIETY 2024

[wanderlust-psifang]

High Metabolism Vampirism?

We all know vampires feed, but do we snack?

I imagine that would be hard for a sang. Maybe a 'hybrid' snacks on energy while they wait for blood?

Is ambient feeding a snack for the psi while they wait for a donor to deep feed?

Source: Pinterest. Cassidy from Preacher Season 1 with his favorite snack, a bottle of whiskey!

In popular media vampires that refuse to drink human blood often go for animal blood. A rare steak versus human blood sounds like a decent snack.

Maybe mirror feeding (feeding through a scrying mirror), or dream feeding, are other ways to snack.

In my head I ponder that vampires that don't have a donor have to rely on snacking over a proper meal. Compare a bowl of rice and a few eggs to a bowl of rice, mongolian beef, and garlic string beans. They will both get you full but the later will keep you satisfied longer.

Just random thoughts, plus, I haven't posted in a while.

For the Sangs: Nodeppo eating face.

For the psi vampires: Happy Noodle Boy eating air.

[nokoda]

Hey guys so I'm debating on making a discord server for real werewolves/vampires (if you think real werewolves transform or vampires have super powers like flight or super speed then this server isn't for you). But I can't decide if i should make two separate servers, one for werewolves and one for vampires, or if I should just make one server for both combined.

So I need opinions!

I also need people to show enough interest in this before I make it...so please reblog/like/comment/even message me if you are interested or have ideas!

The server will be a safe space to talk about supernatural stuff and of course I will be taking suggestions.

Thanks

[vampfairywitch]

There is an uptick once again about real vampires. Multiple videos about the New Orleans vampire community have drawn interest to vampire groups in the United States.

As a gentle reminder, The Coven of Ash and Rose is a vampire coven, based in the Greater Houston Metoplex area, that welcomes members around the world to join with us to celebrate the darker, sensual side of spirituality.

We welcome witches, therians, and otherkin here, and many living vampires are also witches, therians, or otherkin.

The Coven is founded by Michael Vachmiel and Sonia Spaw While we retian ownership and management of the group, we are not a structured court. Meaning there are no ranks and no one has authority over another.

On occasion people were refer to me as Vampire King of Houston. I was elected to that title years ago by the existing elders of the city at that time.

Since the last two gentlement who held that title were removed from the Vampire community some of the old guard have defaulted back to that honorific.

I do not expect anyone to call me a honorific.

www.linktree.com/darqkrafts

A man demanding to be called a king is not.

So with all that said.

Hi, welcome to Houston Metroplex's Vampire Community, The Coven of Ash and Rose.

[theredcellar]

A Sanguinarian Treatise: An Argument For Partition From The Vampire Community

By CJ! As the long-awaited (by all nine of you) sequel to “A Sanguinarian Treatise” is now in review stage, I felt it was appropriate to repost and reintroduce the original for those to reconsider after a few years of life experience as well for those who have yet to read it. “A Sanguinarian Treatise” was written in late 2009 and made public in 2011. I hope to see respectful debate and lively…

[vampyre-kin]

Hello! I’m new to discovering otherkin and adjacent communities so if your up to it could you expand upon what you mean by “vampires and finding my place among them” (like in what sense? Also how literal are we being?) and maybe help me define vampire vs vampyre?

I'm going to be super honest with you bud, I am fairly new to this myself so I'm not the best person to be educating.

Frankly, I thought vampyre was just the old English spelling of vampire which isn't inherently wrong but I think technically it would be the difference between our modern idea of the vampire versus the old folkloric vampyre. I use it because I think etymology is neat.

Now, as for my personal experiences and what I meant in saying that, I have always felt different and I've always felt very drawn to the idea of vampires. I would say I was being semi-literal, in that I have found comfort, friends and solidarity in both the otherkin community and the real living vampire community and consider both to be a safe haven of sorts. I'm not currently active in any local vampiric communities and I have an awful lot to learn but I hope to be more involved someday.

I'm sorry if this doesn't really clear things up.

[field-cryptobotanist]

Truly devastating

"You got vampire lore wrong in your story because real vampires do this and that" Buddy I have terrible news about all of vampires. Heartbreaking news. Worst news you're gonna hear all day.

[cruelnemothesis]

[camaelczarka]

Louis dressing Lestat:

Armand dressing Lestat:

Lestat dressing himself:

[shhhhimwatchingthis]

My favourite underrated thing about Louis de Point du Lac is that he truly is the least curious vampire to ever be made and he does not give fuck about vampires despite being one.

Its Claudia who goes to libraries, reads the folklore, tries to learn as much as she can and pushes Lestat for answers about who made him and where the others are. Claudia says Vampire Pride and Louis says hmmm Vampire Tolerance.

And Louis...truly does not care about vampire history,law, culture. He's never even thought to ask. There are vampire laws?...ok...Lestat never cared about them and he's not going to either, lol. He's broken a few and he will continue to do so. Oh you have a coven? he's not gonna join it, he's gonna do his own thing. but good for you good for you.

the 500+ year old Coven Leader, he's gonna call Louis, Maitre, actually.

He has fire powers? thats kinda cool. he'll learn that but only cause it lets him vent his feelings about Lestat.

Lestat and Armand say the name of the vampire queen in front of him and Lestat straight up says, "Louis has no idea who that is" and do you think Louis cares, outside of the fact that for some reason it means he can't kill Lestat? No! Do you think in the 77 years he's been with Armand he ever took 5 minutes to ask a follow up question? No!

Do you think he will care about Akasha in season 3? Doubt it! Outside of her obsession with Lestat, who is the only person left on the planet he seems to be able to filter Caring About This Shit through

He blatantly breaks the 3rd law and publishes a book about being a vampire and when the other vampires get pissed not only does he not apologise he literally sends them his location and says 'you wanna fight? lmao don't miss'

I love him. Daniel Molloy is gonna need to bring his A game because Louis will not be solving a single mystery next season, nor would it even occur to him to try.

[agothgirlsdiary]

She's just like me fr

(this actually describes me to a T except for the meat eating part bc I have a red meat intolerance -_-)

You have Vampiric Blood running through your veins. However, that blood comes from quite a few generations back, so all it really means is that you like eating meat, can’t swim, get mildly annoyed by religious architecture, and get sunburned really easily.

[mag86zvezd]

[and-fishing-equipment]

imagine being real rashid and you work for these weird gay vampires and one day they come to you like hey rashid we're gonna give you a little holiday! armand will take over your duties for the time being, for a cool disguise during my interview, not a kink thing :) and you're like okay these are my weird gay vampire bosses so it probably is a kink thing but who am i to judge. and then you find out they are roleplaying this weird exhibitionist slash master/servant scene with your own real actual government name. fuck interview with the vampire, interview with rashid WHEN??

[brian-kinney-apologist]

how I slept last night knowing that s3 of iwtv is secured, rockstar lestat is happening, akasha is on her way, loustat are endgame, ghost!claudia is a possibility, sam reid is not allowed to cut his hair short for a couple more years, daniel is now a vampire and the devil's minion is real:

[vampyre-kin]

Any resources that I can use to do research on being a vampire? There's not much besides mythology/folklore, along with the occasional experience being talked about by a vampire. How do you find out you are a vamp?

I mean I think I've always sort of known, I was always very adamant that I was a vampire even as a child, so much so that in elementary school before people "knew better" I had thoroughly convinced most people who interacted with me.

As far as information seeking there are books, YouTube videos and even documentaries about real living vampires talking about their experiences and how they came to be. I would start on YouTube and go into it with an open mind and tolerance in your heart because I've noticed many interviewers come from a place of disbelief or even judgement but you have to remember that you're not there for them you're there to hear the vampires speak.

Just look into "real life/living vampires" and that's where you'll start finding more of the information you're looking for.

[prisonhannibal]