#queerbating

[backofftubby]

So here are my two cents of this whole queerbating issue no one asked for. I don't think we have been queerbaited - at least not yet.

The situation with 911 is a bit different to many other series, as while it has had 8 seasons, only two of those have been on ABC, and things changed after the move.

In those two seasons (and the first one being a short season) they have made Buck bi and have introduced the possibility of Buddie to the GA with Buck's feelings towards Eddie being question not by one but two other characters. It's not just fandom talk anymore. And the Buddie has had a steady build up in season 8 up until Bobby's death, which kinda sidelined everything else. So signs are promising.

And the way Buddie was one off the main talking points at Disney Upfronts (which was promo for season 9 not for 818) is super promising and exciting, it also means that if Buddie isn't a big story in season 9, it's hard to see how it was not queerbating. So that's why it's important it is discussed about.

Buddie having a big story in season 9 can of course also be that it is shut down. Personally, I feel they have been warming GA for Buddie and if GA gets behind them, they will go canon. The GA audience is bigger and more important for the show than fandom is, a fact that is sometimes forgotten within the fandom. For GA there really have been any clear signs about Eddie being anything else than a straight man. But the build up is there.

I wouldn't wanna be in charge of the PR team, because it is a fine line they are walking. Because those two interviews Oliver and Ryan did were super good and they would be idiots to not use them for promo. I want them to do interviews together even if Buddie never goes to canon. I guess it's about the balance and amount of the interviews that is the key.

[nandorelentlessdelacruz]

Queer characters and queer show are different concepts. You can have queer characters for pink money, for example, or use their queerness only for the laughs, to make a character "eccentric" or even to make a point.

I grew up watching tv shows like Queer as Folk and The L Word and believe me when I say: WWDITS it's not a queer show, is not centered on the queer experience, don't care for queer policy, the most vaguely activist thing was a pride parade made for a straight character get more votes.

WWDITS is fun and I love it, but when I read this kind of argument against queerbating allegations I wonder why the bar is so low now?

[niktheniknik]

Damn, with all the shit of 8 season (which is the worst season by far) I'm so glad that my laptop is broken and i can't use it! I had time to detox and now I'm just looking in on the mayhem that is ryliver and buddie and queerbating lmao

That's so sad

[nylanotthere-2]

Me when I was watching that fucking Teen Wolf movie and Thiam was not canon:

[inact-ice]

I used to talk a lot of shit about the selfcest in the Loki tv show, but the truth is I wouldn’t have cared if all the alt universe Loki’s had had a big ol’ onscreen orgy. I was just embarrassed about getting queerbaited by the mcu.

[lifelover4life]

me, watching in horror, as another obviously queer character gets into a heterosexual relationship because the writers are scared of making them gay: No. No, no, don't kiss hi- awh. No! No. No!

[sun-ni-day]

"They're queerbating!" and it's just two same sex characters sharing a deep spiritual connection and emotional and physical intimacy, becoming an integral part of each other's life.

Girl, platonic love exists.

Stop devaluing it.

P.S. I'm not talking about shipping - your headcanons are yours, go off, no one is stopping you. Just don't accuse creators of doing something they didn't do.

[forkaround]

I just started My Journey to You because of a gifset of two women fighting very gay-ly. In the show there is banter between the Male Lead and his Bodyguard where ML says 'Are you going to be my bride?'. Now, they might not have intentionally queerbaited (if we can even call it that) but even if they had it would not be the same way that USdramas queerbait. In a Cdrama I know I'm not getting the gay no matter how many hints they leave. Same with Kdramas. So they can go as hard as they want but I know, going in, it's never going to be there. On the other hand USdramas are malicious with this. With USdramas I have hope. And every time they don't get together it feels like a slap in the face. Especially since the straight romance they write isn't good anyway. I started Till the End of the Moon for the same reason - A gifset of girls. But the straight romance both these girls get, the depth of character in both masculine and feminine traits that both these women get makes me satisfied with the show. On the other hand, Women are treated so horribly on USdramas - flattened and boring that the most important and interesting thing about them becomes their potential queerness. Same with Little Women. It's queercoded but I won't be disappointed if InJoo and Do-il got together because all the female characters are so well crafted and well explored that it feel like a feast.

I've admired USdramas for a long time. They were the better alternative to Indian Dramas. But they don't got shit on Cdramas and Kdramas. Now of course it doesn't apply to every show out there. But I'm picky no matter what country it is. And so far Cdramas and Kdramas have better writing overall.

[whomst-the-hell]

also just want to add: because queer-baiting is a marketing scheme used in media about fictional characters, real human people cannot queer-bait! not even famous ones!! this includes:

actors who play queer characters despite being cis/straight

celebrities who got really popular for displaying “””queer traits”””

artists that include queer themes in their work but do not officially come out

gnc celebrities

literally any real actual person who does not self-identify (or does not want to come out!!) as queer

i’d be really curious to know what percent of queerbaiting is 

a) an intentional marketing scheme to stir interest in the project and attract certain fanbases (lgbtq people and young women) vs. 

b) members of the creative team genuinely wanting to write queer characters but the corporate side of things force them to tone it down but they still leave little hints vs. 

c) they legitimately did not know how gay something would come across

[exquisite-peculiarity]

Apparently there's drama for the Swifties rn, but this applies accross the board- You realize a human person having friendships isn't queerbating you, and taking it personally when they don't have your sexuality is, in fact, a you problem?

[mysinkingsun]

He's soooo self-loathing

[bring-onthe-rain]

dude I just saw someone say that Stobotnik is queer baiting when Stone is literally like this for all three movies

[lukeqatwalker]

queerbaiting leads to yearning

yearning leads to fanfiction

fanfiction leads to ... suffering

queerbaiting is good because the yearning is always better than the having

[bottombaron]

oh ok so its the usual no-homo bullshit you always hear, good to know.

[buddieroommatesera]

Please reblog for a larger sample size.

I realized over the last few weeks that we may all have different ways of defining “8b Buddie Canon” and I want to see which option is the one we most agree on, or if there are some we haven’t all thought of.

Also, just because they may not “go canon” for some doesn’t mean that many others will disagree and will celebrate that it did.

Tagging a few friends to spread:

@thatsveryood @leothil @burnthatbridge @sibylsleaves @stagefoureddiediaz @thatbuddie @butchdiaz @buttercupbuck @eddiegettingshot @henswilsons @hattalove @hotshotsxyz @hunybody @clusterbuck @capseycartwright @catdadeddie