#pro Tony stark

[dolche-tejada]

So I wanted to point out the usual nonsenses coming from Tony Stark antis and luckily enough, one of them made a post quoting pretty much most of their popular "arguments" (if I can refer to them as such), so let's take a look at this user’s main points and see how solid they are.

"Let's talk about the horrible shit Tony has done in the MCU"

Please keep in mind the "horrible shit" term all along during your reading.

"MCU Tony has mortared a city full of civilians"

Okay so first point and it literally never happened. USA's government did that to Wanda and Pietro's town, not Tony so I hope it wasn't too painful to pull this nonsense out of your ass.

"Been a complete dick to all of his teammates"

Oh no... he was mean to Steve and his coworkers during their first movie ? What a complete tragedy, what a heartless monster. Please stop the violins, otherwise I might weep.

"Made multiple misogynistic comments about women mainly Natasha (looking at you prima nocta scene)"

Okay so you gave only one example to back this up and it's when he was obviously joking with his friends. Even if that joke may be in very bad taste, that doesn't make him a horrible person like you tried to demonstrate, you're just nitpicking.

"Manipulated a 16 year old into getting into a war with his former teammates"

A) "a war" please don't make me laugh. For most of the only fight Peter take part in, both sides were joking with the other while fighting and weren't even fighting seriously, they were just trying to incapacitate each other. Things only get messy after Tony ordered Peter to step back.

B) Tony didn't manipulate shit. He hid no vital informations to Peter and while bringing a 16 year old to an arrest was indeed a stupid decision, he knew Steve wouldn't harm him and that Peter was strong, competent and equipped enough to deal with him.

"Thought he was completely justified for trying to kill Bucky for something Bucky did unwillingly cuz he was fucking brainwashed"

Why the fuck are you lying ? At no point Tony justified himself for this. He tried during the whole Civil War plot to ease things with Steve and this even after his best friend got disabled for life because Steve escalated the situation at the airport, only to learn then that his friend lied to him all along about his parents' death.

At this point Tony just didn't care anymore and while he was obviously wrong for trying to kill Bucky, it's not like he had no understandable reasons to go after him. Brainwashed or not, most people would try to obliterate their parents' murderer if he stood right in front of them.

"Repeatedly mocked Bruce Banner who was filled with self loathing and even tried to kill himself because of how much he hated being The Hulk"

Firstly he joked with him, not about him. Secondly, Tony was the only one who respected Bruce from the start and never treated him like some ticking bomb ready to explode.

"Created most of the villains in the MCU (Mysterio and Co., Vulture, Aldrich Killian, The Maximoff Twins, Justin Hammer, The Flag-Smashers etc)"

Okay, where do I even begin on that.

Quentin Beck was a narcissistic asshole who got mad because his boss called his invention "B.A.R.F", that and Tony tossing it aside because this tech was way too expansive for its very limited applications. So not Tony's fault if Beck had an ego more fragile than a soap bubble.

Hammer tried to destroy Tony's image and Stark Industries first, so Tony defended himself by revealing he crippled a man by trying to replicate his tech. Hammer fucked around and found out, not Tony's fault if he's an hypocritical idiot.

Concerning the Flag Smashers, the reason they became terrorists wasn't caused by Tony bringing back half of the universe, it was due to the Global Repatriation Council's disastrous resources management.

About Toomes, Tony had no prior knowledge of the contract he signed with NY and even if he did, leaving dangerous alien tech in the hands of random people is quite a moronic idea, as evidenced by what they did with this tech for years. Not Tony's fault if Toomes is delusional and sucks at his job.

Aldrich Killian ? Be fucking real, he became a super-villain just because Tony ignored him, an archetypal greasy-haired nerd who literally drools as he talks, for a pretty chick on New Year's Eve.

Like obviously, when a serial killer stab someone to death, the most logical reaction is to blame those who assemble knives at the factory rather than the murderer himself, makes perfect sense to me.

The Maximoff Twins, my god this argument again... Yeah let's blame the guy who designed and sold weapons to his government rather than, oh I don't know, the fucking guys who used them against civilians ??

"Which also means he's also had some hand in the deaths caused by all these characters"

Literally none of the characters you quoted became super-villains because of him.

"Created Ultron"

He intended to create a security system against other alien invasions and it resulted in a genocidal robot, which only happened because Wanda mindraped him some hours before. Tony is responsible for Ultron's creation, Wanda for what he became.

And I don't want to see anybody whining in my mentions that he already planned to design Ultron prior to her mindraping him, not when she had this fucking grin after seeing Tony taking the Mind Stone with him.

Let alone when she threw this line, later in the movie : I saw Stark’s fear. I knew it would control him, make him self destruct.

She knew letting him take the Stone would cause something awful that might also kill him and she used her powers to make him even more paranoid. She's responsible for Ultron going from "A suit of armor around the world" to "Genocidal Murder Bot", not Tony.

"Thought it was a good idea to have a newly created AI be exposed to The Mind Stone which caused Ultron to kill JARVIS and go rogue

A) Which again wouldn't have happened if Wanda hadn't mindraped him the same day.

B) He didn't consciously exposed Ultron to it, the Mind Stone corrupted the AI on its own, something Tony and Bruce had no way to predict.

C) Still not his fault anyway. Ultron is sentient, he takes his own decisions. Tony being his "father" doesn't change anything to this state of fact.

"Profited off of war by making weapons of mass destruction and selling them"

Something he's spent over a decade to make amend for, notably by closing his weapons division and dedicating his life and resources to helping people and saving the world.

"Bought illegally obtained vibranium stolen directly from Wakanda by Klaue"

False too. All we know is that they met each other at the time Tony was still designing weapons ; and that Klaue told him he was looking for something new. At no point was it implied Tony illegally bought vibranium from him.

"Technically responsible for more vibranium being stolen from Wakanda by Klaue due to Ultron"

This vibranium was already stolen by Klaue when Ultron met him.

"Being responsible for everyone who died in Sokovia's death because he made Ultron"

So following your reasoning, I guess Jeffrey Dahmer's parents are responsible for every murder their son committed from his own free-will ? Did I get that right ?

"Being unwilling to help Steve and the others fix the Blip cuz muh daughter"

My god, how dare he... being against playing with time and rather trying to accept what happened while taking care of his family.

And this when we know screwing up with time can cause world-ending events.

Truly a proof of how horrible of a human being he is, indeed.

Btw I like how you ignored that Tony changed his mind and helped them afterwards.

"Supported The Sokovia Accords which need I remind you all Tony is technically responsible for The Accords being made because A. he's the one who killed Wanda's parents (blah blah blah, a lot of false attributions later...) causing her to kill Crossbones and a building full of people"

Still isn't him who dropped those mortar shells on her house. Just like it's not him who pushed Crossbones to go suicide-bombers, wrote the Sokovia Accords and incited 119 countries to sign them.

"and B. he is literally responsible for what happened to Sokovia BECAUSE HE MADE ULTRON"

Already answered to this shit, let's continue.

"Referring to Wanda as "a weapon of mass destruction" in Civil War"

Lmao because she isn't ? No one forced Wanda to join a terrorist organization, pal. Just like no one pushed her to act as a weapon of mass destruction, by using her powers to send Hulk on a rampage across Johannesburg or by enslaving Westview.

"meanwhile HE is the REASON SHE has her powers in the first place"

Sure, Tony whispered in her ear every night to go serve as a guinea pig for Nazis in order to get her revenge on him. I forgot this part of Wanda's backstory, silly me.

"Falsely imprisoning the heroes that didn't sign The Accords because he's a cunt"

Tony don't have any power or authority to imprison people, and the heroes he stopped got incarcerated because they indeed broke the law, you jackass.

"Being technically responsible for all the deaths caused by Wanda in Wandavision and DSATMOM because if he didn't kill her parents with his mortar..."

I don't think you know what "technically" means.

"then her and Pietro wouldn't have went to Hydra thus not getting their powers from The Mind Stone"

You know what would have actually prevented all the deaths Wanda caused ? Her not willingly joining Nazis to get her powers and going on a murder spree.

"And you are probably thinking "But he sacrificed himself at the end of Endgame !""

To save the whole universe indeed. That and quite a few other things, such as :

Outright refusing to help terrorists and getting tortured as a result.

Risking his life to save Yinsen.

Saving Afghans villagers from terrorists.

Saving Pepper and SHIELD's agents from Obadiah Stane.

Actively saving people on a daily basis, and this for a decade.

Developing a shit ton of armors to protect people more efficiently.

Saving New York and the world overall from Chitauris.

Stopping Killian from taking over the USA.

Curing Pepper from the Extremis treatment.

Designing Veronica with Bruce.

Fighting Hulk to protect Johannesburg.

Saving the world once again, alongside the Avengers.

Awarding promising students with the funds to develop their own projects and inventions.

Granting his tech to Peter and designing for him two suits that allowed him to save many lives.

Saving Stephen's life from Ebony Maw.

Helping the Avengers to travel in other timelines.

"Let me ask you this : If Strange had hold Tony that the only way to defeat Thanos is if Tony sacrificed himself would Tony do it"

It's literally what happened during Endgame, you fucking bozo. What do you think was the meaning of this scene ?

And it's not like it was something new, he was always ready to die for others' sake, right from the start, did you even watched the first Avengers movie ?

No wait, even better : Have you at least watched the beginning of his first solo movie ?

I wasn't expecting anything from Tony antis but sucking that hard at watching a movie is quite impressive ngl.

"Bottom line is MCU Wanda sucks and Tony Stark sucks"

Yeah no shit, that's pretty easy to say when you're making up lies to support your hate boner.

So in conclusion, this dude has no idea of what he's talking about and neither does Tony antis in general for using these bs as arguments.

[r3d-panda]

!!TW ANGST!!

Okay, but imagine Tony stargazing with his family in the 5 years after the blip.

He tries so hard to enjoy the scenery, but he can't stop thinking about how he almost died TWICE between those beautiful stars.

[hesallin]

tony: look. i know from the outside it seems like i have everything together-

steve: it does not

steve, worried: do you actually think that

[bthehufflepuff208]

Rumors are circulating that RDJ’s Doctor Doom is going to be a version of Tony Stark that turns into Doom. And I’m just like….

WE GET IT; THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS SEEN TONY STARK AS THE VILLAIN. ENOUGH WITH CONTINUING TO PUSH THIS NARRATIVE.

The only version of this rumor I would accept is if it starts off generally the same as the original MCU timeline, but the Avengers push him out and turn on him, especially after Ultron. That no matter how much Tony tries to help, the Avengers (and basically the world) persecute him and shun him. EVEN when Thanos comes and proves Tony right, they still blame him. So then Tony’s like “fine, you want me to be the villain, I’ll be the villain”

Which…….in all honesty, isn’t too far off from what the original MCU is.

But, knowing the Russo brothers and knowing how Tony’s character has always been seen by the vast majority of MCU fans, I’m sure if this rumor is true, they’re going the route of “Tony was always the villain, just like the majority of our fans have always said!”

C’mon writers/directors; how about you be a little more fucking creative than continue to push the “Tony Stark was always and always will be evil” even after he sacrificed himself to save the galaxy.

Or maybe……JUST FOLLOW THE COMICS! It’s okay to have Doom be, ya know, DOOM. You don’t need to always tell everyone about how much you hate Tony Stark……after he died.

[halfblood-princes-crown]

Random post but I just wanted to put it out there that I love Tony Stark

They’ll never make me hate you, pookie 🤧

[taylorkellyreporting]

rhodey: how many kids do you have?

tony: biologically, emotionally, or legally?

[darkcrowprincess]

This a Tony Stark defense squad blog. Don't like it block me.

(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you!)

[mostlystuckony]

@ the people still commenting rude anti Tony shit on my fanfiction in the year 2024 PLEASE consider that he is a fictional character and the whole thing is fictional and you don't need to be fucking mean about it like holy shit. I like what I like, you like what you like, take a deep breath it is okay, you're making it a little extreme.

[daminwayne]

It’s 2023 and I’m still upset about all the Tony Stark hate post CACW

[illicthearts]

I watched Infinity War today, sometimes I question why I liked it so much because half the things they do pisses me off. Especially Quill he pisses me off so much.

And STEVE, don’t even get me started on him. “We don’t trade lives,” JUST A MOVIE A GO YOU WERE PREACHING THAT WE NEED ACCEPT THAT IN YOUR LINE OF WORK YOU CAN’T SAVE EVERYONE. And than he goes ahead sacrifices a bunch of people (POCs) to save a ROBOT! Who mind you could be made again.

But I guess that only applies to faceless people. Not to the people you know personally and especially not if Wanda loves that person. I hate his hypocritical ass so much.

[r3d-panda]

Tony Stark antis: Tony bringing Peter to the airport in civil war was absolutely terrible! child abuser and irresponsible!!

Meanwhile, them not giving a shit about Wanda letting her two TEN YEARS OLD deal with the fucking military in Wandavision: she is so badass!

The double standard is incredible. I've never seen anyone talk about that, they all like to shit on Tony but when it comes to Wanda she is only a "girl boss mommy", like stfu please

Yes I'm talking about the last Episode. "You guys were born for this" THEY ARE 10 YEARS OLD AND HAD POWERS FOR LIKE 2 DAYS, And of course the writers made those kids powerful enough to win, just to not make her and Vision be bad parents. What a fucking joke I hated this.

I'm usually not a hater, but I get pissed off when people still bring up Tony taking Peter into civil war (a super-powered teenager who stopped a car with bare hands, who also have been told by Stark to stay away from people and just use webs) but not Wanda making her kids fight with armed men, and if it wasn't for Monica, they would have been shot.

My fucking God.

[hersheysmcboom]

Friendly reminder that nether Tony stark or Steve rogers are homophobic, STOP MAKING UP LIES THAT THEY ARE!!

[bthehufflepuff208]

Last night I realized another awful scenario if the rumors of RDJ’s Doctor Doom is a variant of Tony Stark becoming Doom…….

We all know Wanda is coming back to life; she is the darling of MCU female characters, the ultimate “girl boss” to the majority of fans.

What if the plan is when Wanda comes back, she comes back to destroy Doctor Tony Stark-Doom?

It won’t even be about defeating the villain of Doctor Doom; it’ll truly be about Wanda finally being able to prove Tony Stark was always the evil villain she said he was and finally being able to get her revenge for her family.

And only then, after he’s killed, the real Doctor Doom of the MCU will come in.

Like, the sole purpose of bringing RDJ back was just to not only push the narrative of “Tony Stark was always the villain of every universe”, but also “Wanda, no matter how much murder and mind control/manipulation she’s done, was always the true hero of the MCU and always knew the true evil of Tony Stark.”

……….

WHY can’t you just bring in the real Victor Von Doom immediately (whether it be a Romani actor or Cillian Murphy)

WHY must we continue to push the “evil villain Tony Stark” and “girl boss, most powerful/wonderful hero Wanda Maximoff”? Most fans believe that narrative anyway!

I would LOVE to see RDJ back in the MCU…….but how about not with the overused plot of “any Tony Stark is a villain and causes all the problems of the MCU”

You know what would be a good idea? Maybe bring RDJ back as Tony Stark/Iron Man from a world where every one trusted him from the beginning of becoming Iron Man.

A world where maybe, just maybe, Thanos failed the first time around because the Avengers didn’t immediately dismiss Tony when he warned them of what was coming!!!!

But noooooo, fans don’t want to see that! They want to see more of the same narrative they’ve been pushing since the beginning even though there are so many moments that prove that narrative to be false that writers/directors/fans choose to ignore!

[4rcreactor]

attention all tony stans:

I need a friend who I can babble and rant about my love for tony stark with. I have severe tony stan deficiency.

like and I'll msg you djshdb

[xx-stark-xx]

The sheer hubristic urge to make the most self indulgent rewrite of the entire Iron Man trilogy.

[moonlightdancer26]

I actually wanna hear you rant about Tony. Got any takes???????

*wiggles eyebrows*

I’m gonna sleep in like 2 minutes and the thought of an unempty inbox is haunting me so all I can say is

He is pookie bear

I support his rights and his wrongs

People don’t understand his character growth at ALL, it’s like they watched the first 15 minutes of Iron Man and decided “yep I figured this character out.”

He deserves so much more credit for how much he’s sacrificed, by both the other characters and the fandom.

His haters rarely have valid reasons to hate on him, they either have no taste or lack critical thinking. A lot of the times both.

Most importantly, he is pookie bear. I think that’s all there is to say tbh.

ok goodbye love u and sorry for not posting for 3 days <3333333