#polymind things

[sqodle-stuff]

▎More flags!!

「 VARISHATTER 」 Describes a polymind who came to existence due to two or more reasons.

[ID A rectangular flag with 7 horizontal stripes: pale red, pale orange, pale yellow, white, pale cyan, pale blue, pale deep blue and a geeen star in the center END ID]

「 BLANKSHATTER 」 Describes a polymind who doesn’t know why they formed or doesn’t care about it.

[ID A rectangular flag with 5 horizontal stripes: pale green, green tinted grey, white, pale purple, dark purple and a white circle with a smaller black circle inside of it in the center END ID]

[starstruck-sillies]

SOOO turns out there's apparently a way less harmful alternative to endos: Polymind! They have their own terms and general language, AND they make sure to distance themselves from the system community and make it very clear that they aren't systems, but their own thing!! It's super super cool, 1000% we support this!!!

This is legit soso cool YIPPEEEE

NOTE: Polyminds are NOT endos, or systems at all, they're a separate thing. They may seem similar, and can have some similarities, but they are still very much different!!

-Milkyway

[spectral-pup]

I just wanted to say, that as a DID system it's really relieving to see the term Polymind existing. My personal problem with Endos is moreso the hostile community and the terminology they use rather than their experience with multiplicity or whatever. I don't see any of these problems in Polymind! Like y'all make it clear you aren't systems. I don't think folks understand why exactly most systems feel uncomfortable around Endos. Like Polymind is not invading DIDOSDD spaces and y'all are just kinda vibing over here. Then in contrast, if you look at the history and beginning of the non-disordered plural community, the whole point was to invade DID spaces, harass pwDID and demedicalize the whole disorder. Me and the other alters can't even count how many times we've had to endure harassment from Endos on sysblr even with DNI in the post and bio. Why would you purposefully go and harass some of the most traumatized ppl out there just bc they don't like you appropriating their disorder? I don't get it. And jumping onto the terms, I see people getting mad the terms in Polymind are sometimes synonymous or similar to system terms. This is gonna be hard to explain but like, I think you kinda miss the point when you get too caught up in them, after all healthy brains and unhealthy ones can still have overlapping and/or similar experiences (this doesn't mean you can just invade disorder spaces though) If you know anything about thoughtforms you know humans throughout history and in different cultures have had different words for them but it's all boiled down to essentially the same thing because, surprise, brains just are like this. Like idk, I think it's completely normal to talk to yourself and 'have 'imaginary friends' and inner worlds - that doesn't make you a system. Plus, subpersonalities are medically recognized too. And to end my rant, I'll just say, don't take all the hate too seriously. You're doing great.

Holy fucking shit, this actually made my day better

[the-sour-patch-crew]

Alright, hold up. Apparently, there was a term created this year that I hadn't seen.

Polymind?

So. Why?

What makes it different than median parts, fragments, daemons, and all that other jazz?

Is it just... a unique way to refer to these kind of parts that are not related to full separate headmates and alters?

Someone just didn't like the term plural and everything it encompasses?

Is it an IFS specific thing?

The wiki genuinely doesn't clear these questions up for us and there was a discord server, but it was anti endo which is WILD to me if this is something non CDD related.

Help please.

[sqodle-stuff]

▎Two silly flags I’ve made!!

「 DREAMSHATTER 」 Describes a polymind who came to existence due to maladaptive daydreaming.

[ID A rectangular flag with 5 wavy horizontal stripes: light pink, light magenta, white, light purple, light indigo and a white circle in the center END ID]

「 TRAUMASHATTER 」 Describes a polymind who came to existence due to long term trauma.

[ID A rectangular flag with 5 zigzag horizontal stripes: dark maroon, maroon, black, dark crimson, crimson and a black diamond shape in the center END ID]

[spectral-pup]

Hi, I literally cannot find a single thing on polyminds, I have a rough idea of the definition but I'm wondering if you know where to go for more insight?

Here!!

You can also read through the sources that the wiki has listed

[starstruck-sillies]

Ahhh I see, thanks for informing me!

I think it is fine for them to have their shared spaces, just that I and many other traumagens are wary about if they're as similar to us as they say, and oppose them comparing themselves to us is the main thing. There definitely have been plenty of pwCDDs who have benefitted from mixed-origin spaces, and their experiences aren't any less valid than those who have been hurt by them.

And ofc!! We love having conversations about this, we find it much more helpful to actually talk to the other side of things and hear them out than just shutting them down, it's helped us learn things!

-Milkyway and Xero

Some of our (apparently) Hot Takes

Modern "Tulpamancy" is a bastardization of an ancient closed practice, and claiming to be a "Tulplagenic System" is both shitty to actual systems AND cultural appropriation Anecdotal evidence is NOT the same as scientific evidence and a few scientists using anecdotes to say "Yea endos are probably real" is not only not enough evidence to prove they are real, but is also extremely unscientific, stop treating it like it's infallible evidence

Fictives are NOT their sources, and as such no fictive needs to apologize for anything their source did, regardless of if they're source connected or identify with their source

Source dating is extremely fucking weird stop doing that

Feeding into and reinforcing delusions is awful, extremely anti-recovery, and outright dangerous. Stop defending IRLs/DAs and insisting it's fine

Regular trauma survivors who don't have CDDs don't belong in CDD spaces (genuinely can't believe we have to say this, this goes for endos too yall don't belong either)

"Doubles" are fucking stupid, and fictives are not doubles

Just because you experience something vaguely similar to a symptom of a disorder, that doesn't automatically mean you have the disorder, or that your experience is exactly the same as someone who has the disorder

Feel free to add on to this, or fight me idc

-Milkyway and Xero

[starstruck-sillies]

Okay, in light of some things I've seen endos say about polyminds, I found something very interesting about the arguments they use against polyminds (Also I'd like to note; polymind terms are similar to system terms because their experiences can be pretty similar to ours, but they are NOT the same as ours. That's why they use different terms. They aren't systems and don't want to use terms that describe similar things to their but that are still fundamentally different. Please grow braincells I beg of you) I noticed a lot of people saying that polyminds are "Watering down system experiences" or "Just endos in denial" Things anti-endos say a lot about endos

Things endos compare a lot to things transmeds say Things they get mad at us for saying about them because they're similar to things that transmeds say

Things they are now saying about polyminds. Isn't. That. Interesting.

That says some very specific things about a lot of pro-endos -Xero

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[sqodle-stuff]

▎Welcome!!

「 BLOG 」

This is my little silly blog to simply post things I’ve made, and perhaps fulfill any requests I may get! The blog is primarily aimed and for polyminds since I’ve noticed there’s not a lot of blogs for them, but I don’t mind making things for other communities as well. If you are planning on using any of my creations or requesting any, then I kindly ask you to read throughout this post. Thank you!

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[imjustaf444keriguess]

"otherwise you need to recreate the whole damn lexicon." is also what i think of when i see the polymind dictionary carrd. half of them are literally just synonyms to plural experiences.

Active When a specific mind or minds are present.

this is fronting

Co-Active When two or more minds are active together.

co-fronting or co-conscious

Hazy A state where a polymind is unsure which mind or minds are active.

"blurry" or "blendy" or just dissociated

Merge When two or more minds become one.

fusion or merging

Tear When a mind becomes two or more other minds.

splitting or forming

Swap When a mind switches in or out of being active.

switch

Swappy A state where minds are swapping frequently.

switchy / rapid switching

Media The certain thing that a fictling is based off.

source, or media (some of these are directly used by plurals and systems lol)

Mind A specific individual in a polymind. Synonym of “part” and “state”

part is also used by systems. "self state", alter, headmate, system member, fragment...

Splinter A mind who is not fully developed yet.

oh, this is also fragment!

Fictling A mind who is based off a fictional character.

fictive / fictional introject (or even fictionkin identity)

not going through the other -ling identities, they're just -tive or -troject identity synonyms. yall should add factling though, you're missing the factual introject synonym lol

Anchor The “main” mind who is the most active.

host or primary fronter

Blanket The mind who integrates all minds into a whole self.

a "shell" alter/headmate

Job A certain “task” that a mind is meant to do

role or job

Keeper A mind who “keeps” certain things, such as intense emotions or trauma.

blank holder

there's more but some are just directly the same, or too general to be "copying" (like "caretaker" is a generic job irl and in systems. literally "to take care of something or someone" lmao)

Polymind is a bit fascinating because it ends up unintentionally showing why system terminology ends up not being exclusive to any one specific group.

Like when you try to describe plural experiences in a way that tries not to use an existing plural definitions, it shows a lot more blatantly that at its core we do all have the same experience of being more than one. Any term you make has a high chance of applying to the other group.

Then when you get into the terminology needed to actually describe those experiences, you find you kind of need most of the shared terminology otherwise you need to recreate the whole damn lexicon.

Like the reason terms get shared is more like "We have DID need a fast and easy way to describe fictional alters. Oh, soulbonders have a lot of terminology for this already that fits what we need, we'll start using fictive and source."

Or "We're a non-disordered system and need a way to describe one headmate taking over. Oh, medically there's switching and front, that's a fast and simple way to describe it."

And like a lot of subcultures online are like that and when you try to fight it you end up with complicated and not very practical terms. Especially when there's terms that have been used for over 30 goddamn years that are simpler and easier to use.

Hell even trying not to use any existing plural terminology, Polymind ended taking a lot of them unintentionally (i.e. part, ageling, little, protector).

It also highlights an issue where unless you do deeper introspection, which is not always practical for... obvious reasons, you probably won't know exactly what you fall under. Expecting people to look in depth trauma history to figure out what terminology they're allowed to use is despicable.

Also that the problem is at its core that people don't think we should exist at all and that the terminology stink ends up being more of a way to make harassment and fakeclaiming seem "justified" and also a method of erasing history and separating systems from resources/making them harder to find but eh

[imjustaf444keriguess]

responding to the last bit first because… sometimes carrds ARE the most trustworthy sources, assuming the information is about a term that the carrd-owner made (that is to say, assuming the carrds tat are linked are created by you or people who identify with the term and who can try their best to correctly explain what it feels like and what the term means).

"active" still implies some sort of "i am in the front seat and the 'others' are in the backseat". i think using the term "mindset" instead of just "mind" might make this better, as in "my active mindset is the mindset of a 'daughter', i am in a 'daughter' mindset right now".

i don't think mindsets or "minds" can get "stuck" in the same way alters and headmates can do, unless they are at least somewhat sentient or have some form of self-autonomy, so having "active-stuck" is a bit silly. perhaps just "stuck", as in "stuck in a mind(set)" might work better for a singlet-experience, but i am part of a system, not a singlet.

i don't think personality modes / "mindsets" can tear/merge/splinter off, although they can develop and change and adapt. like how getting a new job might get you a "work mindset" or gaining a child through adoption or birth might give you a "parent mindset". it's not really merging or tearing, it's developing and growing. you don't lose parts of yourself, you can only gain them (unless you have a condition that causes you amnesia or identity issues, which might influence any identities like polymindedness or plurality/systemhood/multiplicity)

having "minds" that are based off of something else can get very messy, especially with fictive/fictional introject identities and fictionkin identities. is it like a "kinnie" thing? where you just have a strong connection to a character? what would you describe the experience of "fictling" to be like? (or, if you don't experience it, what have you heard from your fellow polyminds to be the experience? do they connect it to any fictionkin kintype or "kinnie" related identity?

i didn't mention "blanket" but i think a term like that would be good, although i'd describe it more like "the collective identity / "self" which all minds are connected by" or something of the sort. i don't quite get the difference between blanket and central, though?

i think the most strange comparison between plural identities and polymindedness is the "shattermethods". that implies there was an event or series of events of some kind that "shattered" you into subpersonalities, which is how many DID systems describe their experience of being a system.

the term traumashatter and surviveshatter even use the words "long term trauma" in the carrd, which is the same language that a lot of traumagenic systems often use to explain their experiences of becoming a system (long term trauma as a child). if a polymind is truly just subpersonalities, we wouldn't be seeing a "breaking apart" or "shattering" of the self, because you are still one whole person, you are not a system, you just percieve your subpersonalities as separate.

i think describing it similar to "the event that caused the polyminded person to view their minds as more separated than the average" while still making it clear you are one "whole" self and not separate "selves" might help make it sound less like a synonym to -genic labels.

this is all going off the idea that you or someone you're closely connected to wrote and edited the carrd, and i do think that this kind of closer to median-singlet experience is important to have words for that aren't inherently "we're distinct 'selves' treat us that way" kind of thing, but it really depends on what the actual experience you are trying to describe is.

sorry if any of this is written weird, tumblr was lagging on my computer and i had to type this in a notepad so things might be less organized or whatever. i need to sleep though. syscourse boygirl out-

Polymind is a bit fascinating because it ends up unintentionally showing why system terminology ends up not being exclusive to any one specific group.

Like when you try to describe plural experiences in a way that tries not to use an existing plural definitions, it shows a lot more blatantly that at its core we do all have the same experience of being more than one. Any term you make has a high chance of applying to the other group.

Then when you get into the terminology needed to actually describe those experiences, you find you kind of need most of the shared terminology otherwise you need to recreate the whole damn lexicon.

Like the reason terms get shared is more like "We have DID need a fast and easy way to describe fictional alters. Oh, soulbonders have a lot of terminology for this already that fits what we need, we'll start using fictive and source."

Or "We're a non-disordered system and need a way to describe one headmate taking over. Oh, medically there's switching and front, that's a fast and simple way to describe it."

And like a lot of subcultures online are like that and when you try to fight it you end up with complicated and not very practical terms. Especially when there's terms that have been used for over 30 goddamn years that are simpler and easier to use.

Hell even trying not to use any existing plural terminology, Polymind ended taking a lot of them unintentionally (i.e. part, ageling, little, protector).

It also highlights an issue where unless you do deeper introspection, which is not always practical for... obvious reasons, you probably won't know exactly what you fall under. Expecting people to look in depth trauma history to figure out what terminology they're allowed to use is despicable.

Also that the problem is at its core that people don't think we should exist at all and that the terminology stink ends up being more of a way to make harassment and fakeclaiming seem "justified" and also a method of erasing history and separating systems from resources/making them harder to find but eh

[imjustaf444keriguess]

i really, really need to sleep but i cant relax so im responding to this again. excuse any typos i was too lazy to fix

i was mentioning that bc im assuming the carrd is intended to be reliably representing your idea of these "polyminds". idk why u brought it up in the first place but i was assuming you were saying i was silly for trusting a carrd on a concept that you (a random tumblr user) amde up. it would be the same as reading a coining post on your tumblr or something. the 'reliability' comes from if you wrote it or if someone else wrote it

"please do not use the “kinnie” term; let alone to describe someone who has a strong connection to a character." i was using it in the exact same way "kinnies" use it (as in "a strong identity connection to a fictional character", in the "very relatable and a mood" sense and not a "this is in some part "literally me", either spiritually or psychologically. if it was closer to real fictionkin or fictionhearted people, then you'd use the terms hearttype and kintype, not "mind" or "fictling", as it'd be... you know, a kintype or hearttype and not a "mind", or that "mind" would hold a kintype? or something?)

the answer also confuses me, as it assumes the "fictling" taking up the personality itself, as an involuntary thing. is this all involuntary or are you choosing to have these subpersonalities as separate "identities"? like is it a choice thing or is it just something that happens or are there separate "ways" to become "polyminded", either by choice or involuntarily?

and what about system members? can an alter be polyminded? does it have to be a singlet exclusive experience, or could a sentient 'self' in someones brain theoretically have a "polymind" of their own even if they are still "one" alter or headmate or whatever? (this moer needs t oget into if alters cna have subpersonalities of their own but its late and im not googing that)

Polymind is a bit fascinating because it ends up unintentionally showing why system terminology ends up not being exclusive to any one specific group.

Like when you try to describe plural experiences in a way that tries not to use an existing plural definitions, it shows a lot more blatantly that at its core we do all have the same experience of being more than one. Any term you make has a high chance of applying to the other group.

Then when you get into the terminology needed to actually describe those experiences, you find you kind of need most of the shared terminology otherwise you need to recreate the whole damn lexicon.

Like the reason terms get shared is more like "We have DID need a fast and easy way to describe fictional alters. Oh, soulbonders have a lot of terminology for this already that fits what we need, we'll start using fictive and source."

Or "We're a non-disordered system and need a way to describe one headmate taking over. Oh, medically there's switching and front, that's a fast and simple way to describe it."

And like a lot of subcultures online are like that and when you try to fight it you end up with complicated and not very practical terms. Especially when there's terms that have been used for over 30 goddamn years that are simpler and easier to use.

Hell even trying not to use any existing plural terminology, Polymind ended taking a lot of them unintentionally (i.e. part, ageling, little, protector).

It also highlights an issue where unless you do deeper introspection, which is not always practical for... obvious reasons, you probably won't know exactly what you fall under. Expecting people to look in depth trauma history to figure out what terminology they're allowed to use is despicable.

Also that the problem is at its core that people don't think we should exist at all and that the terminology stink ends up being more of a way to make harassment and fakeclaiming seem "justified" and also a method of erasing history and separating systems from resources/making them harder to find but eh