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[bertosenn]

What Why on earth is Terapagos?

I have noticed some similarities between Terapagos and other crystal pokémon that have connections to space. In this post I'll elaborate these connections and explain why it may be extraterrestrial and a possible reason that it came to earth.

Similarities

Terapagos has an "inactive form", where it is nothing more than a crystal. If it has energy and the crystal is not stuck somewhere, then it is able to make its body take form, to restore its physical body. A crystal core from where the body comes from is a thing in common for three other pokémon that have connection to space:

"As long as its red core remains, it can regenerate its body instantly, even if it's torn apart." (Staryu's Black 2 & White 2 Pokédex entry)

"Its unusual body shape, reminiscent of abstract art, led local people to spread rumors that this Pokémon may be an invader from outer space.", (Starmie's Moon Pokédex entry) "Its sparkling core is called “the gem of the sea.” This core can be made into high-priced accessories that are traded in secret." (Starmie's Ultra Sun Pokédex entry) "Its core shines in many colors and sends radio signals into space to communicate with something." (Starmie's Black 2 & White 2 Pokédex entry)

"The DNA of a space virus underwent a sudden mutation upon exposure to a laser beam and resulted in Deoxys. The crystalline organ on this Pokémon's chest appears to be its brain." (Deoxy's Ruby Pokédex entry). In the seventh movie, Deoxys as shown to need energy and break free from the meteorite in order to take form

If the biological similarities are not enough, Starmie, Deoxys and Terapagos all can learn Meteor Beam. According to Bulbapedia, "Meteor Beam is learned by most extraterrestrial Pokémon"

Speculation part:

I believe that the crater where Terapagos is found may have been made by the collision of a meteor. Coincidence?

Let's take a look at the ability "Teraform Zero", that clears all weather and terrain effects. I believe Terapagos might have been sent to Earth to "teraform" it. Not "terraform", as in to make a planet be enough like Earth (Terra) so we could inhabit it, but the act of transforming a planet into Tera crystals. To make our world a crystal world ideal for the extraterrestrial crystal pokémon — and maybe other crystal beings?

The reason why Lucius hasn't returned is because he turned into crystal.

[mintaikk]

I don't think you understand how DESPERATE I am for a good pokemon series! Like the plot is interesting, I love the characters, and it's nice being able to see the world away from the gym challenge!

At the time of typing this, I haven't finished the episode, BUT OMG, I LOVE IT SO FAR.

Amethio is definitely my favorite character, and by episode 3, I was already theorizing about him and what the Explorers were. Apparently, he's still a teenager, and I find this part super interesting. Ik 10 year Olds travel the world in pokemon, but we're seeing Amethio working for a large and probably secret organization with a creepy ass boss dude (who's giving Belos vibes), and needing to steal a mysterious pendant. There is DEFINITELY room for theorizing there!

One thing I find interesting is how calm and collected he is, but then we just see hints of his true emotions. In episode 3, he was getting really annoyed when Friede wasn't taking hum seriously, and in episode 5 he was getting annoyed when Friede wasn't paying attention to him. And in episode 6, he punched a wall when he got replaced on his mission. Probably some trainer professionalism in there, but I still think it's interesting. (Also, Gibbeon says that it's not like Amethio to fail missions. Maybe he was just frustrated that this was taking so long?)

What I like about his teammates is the fact that they stuck by him even after he was told to leave the mission, so it's nice seeing that they have some sort of relationship away from their job.

I wanna talk about more, but I'm too excited and can't think straight rn. But I have MAJOR questions on Spinel! Who is he? Does he have any history with Amethio? Why is he apart of the searchers? He looks super cool, and I can't wait until we can officially meet him!

(Also the anime showing Sprigatito and Fuecoco's abilities, which I love, and why it's there)

[love-is-a-pearl]

DEAR FUCKING GOD.

was... was ash-greninja supposed to be a game mechanic????

[zecroswe]

Theory on Terapagos and the true natrue of Tera crystals

So I played the Teal mask a while ago and I really enjoyed It. There is a lot to talk about regarding the characters and the story. I cannot wait until the Indigo Disc comes out! Now, the theory. So after playing the DLC and thinking about the lore within It, I had a realization and a lot of pieces would fit together if It is true. I am gonna put this post into sections to detail the evidence before I write down the conclusion. Spolier warning for Scarlet and Violet, the Teal mask DLC and The Pokemon Horizons anime. None of the game play images are my own.

Section 1: The Crystal Pool.

The crystal pool is such a tease for things to come and I would be surprised If It didn't have any importance in the Indigo Disc. The intresting points about the Crystal pool is that the crystals grew in the pool after being "brought" there. It sounds to me that someone (likely Ogerpons old trainer/gaurdian) brought the crystals and some of It got into the pool and grew from there. The crystal seems almost alive in a sense, like It's just a extension of Terapagos. But the real intresting thing is what the sign next to the pool says and by extension, Carmine in the story. (Couldn't find any footage of It specifically)

When you interact with the sign, It says that there is a rumor that one can see the spirits of the departed within the pool. That is interesting and I doubt It's just flavor text, considering Carmine mentions It too.

But what significance does this have? Well within the games It's unclear, but I think the Horizons anime might be hinting at something important to do with this.

Section 2: Pokemon Horizons, Terapagos.

Terapagos plays an important role in the Horizions anime series. Now I haven't seen the series myself, so I might get facts wrong.

From what I understand is that there is a story arc about these Ancient poke balls.

Now the only way to open them as I understand is by using terapagos powers, but that's not what interested me. No what got me curious is this.

So in episode 23, the main group find a Galarian Molters within one of the ancient pokeballs. After they battle It, Terapagos shows the group a vision of what seems to be Moltres old trainer. Now I admit, I don't have a full context on how It works and what connection terapagos actually have to this trainer. But I find Terapagos ability to show visions from people who seems to have passed away interesting. Either terapagos met this person in the past or It made the vision in some other way.

So here is my theory:

Terapagos has power over memory and so do the tera crystals!

Think about It, If terapagos had power over memory and create visions based on peoples memories, then a lot of things would make sense.

AI Sada and Turo explain that they have the original professors memories, and that no person could make a advanced AI without the tera crystals. A important question is this, How? How do you transfer/convert your own memories into code? Well, if the tera crystals can store memories within them, then It would be possible. The risk could be the fact that the persons memories gets blurry, fragmented, warped or at worst erased.

This could possibly explain why Sada and Turos mental state became one of obsession. It could be that being around high concentrations of tera energy for a long time causes parts of the mind to deteriorate: so instead of terapagos manipulating Sada or Turo, It's just a unfortunate side effect of the Tera energy It creates.

Terapagos having memory powers could also explain the Crystal Pool. The crystals are reacting to the people around It and is showing them visions based on their own memories: the result being what seems to be ghosts of the departed.

Now with that in mind: What does this mean for the Lousy three? What about Ogerpon

Section 3: The Loyal/Lousy three and Ogerpon

Now the Loyal three is a bit of a curve ball in this, considering the fact that they just got brought back to life; Full on necromancy. Or is It?

Now Kieran punched the monument while holding the teal mask and shortly after, the loyal three were resurrected. Now this could be because of a pokemon we haven't seen yet, seeing as It's very much hinted at that the loyal three have a boss. So this boss and their power could be behind this. But I believe the Teal mask is a important piece in this.

The Teal mask was made with Tera crystals and Ogerpon had that mask on her when she killed the loyal three. So If my idea of the Tera crystals storing memories is correct, then the crystals within the mask might have reacted to the monument and manifested the memories of the loyal three. In that case, they weren't traditionally brought back to life, but instead got recreated based on the what was stored in the crystal. In other words: The loyal 3 were recreated based on Ogerpons memory of them! (Or at least the information stored in the crystal).

The reason the crystal reacted in this case could be because the mask was were the loyal 3's graves were, so the crystals reacted to the location and activated (with the help of Kierans punch and/or the loyal 3s boss).

Another point considering Ogerpons mask is her Boss fight.

Ogerpon in the fight switches mask with each phase of the fight and the text for each highlights that she is getting strength from her memories.

It makes me think that It what Tera energy really is, It's memories from either the past, present of maybe even future (If terapagos exists outside of regular time normally) in crystal form.

Crystals that can then either manifest those memories into strength or into full fledged beings. This theory could work both with the Time Travel and the Dream theory

The true time travel idea would be that the paradox pokemon did exist in the past and future, and that Sada and Turos time machine just made the crystals recreate the pokemon based on the stored information.

If the dream theory is true, then the pokemon could be created from memories, just incorrect ones. The human mind isn't infallible and If Heath saw paradox pokemon, It could either be that the crystals activated for unkown reasons; or that the crystals created paradox pokemon based on what Heath and his team thought they saw. Example: The two paradox Dophans within the book could have been a different looking Donphan or machinery and they thought they saw what we understand as a Great Tusk or Iron Threads.

So Sada and Turos paradox pokemon would be based on their memories of the scarlet and violet book. Creating the paradox of these Pokemon existing.

I am so excited for part 2 of the DLC and I really wanna see how the story will continue!

TL:DR: Terapagos might be a timeless being that has the power to make memories physical. Memories can be stored in Tera crystals and then show visions of those memories. Tera crystals might activate under certain conditions to give Pokemon strength or recreate beings based on the information stored inside them. Long periods time around high concentrations for Tera crystals might cause damage to the mind.

[the-idiot-17]

Me for the last month:

Dinosaurs Dinosaurs Dinosaurs Dinosaurs Dinosaurs Dinosaurs Dinosaurs Dinosaurs

Me now:

Pokemon Pokemon Pokemon Pokemon

I mean this aggressively as possible

[jadeazora]

If you showed me a pic of Lucius, and asked me who I expected to be his English VA, I probably wouldn't wouldn't have answered or expected the answer to be "Steve Blum" 😂

[ecargmura]

Fan Theory Debunking

The woman shown in a preview of the next arc is NOT Liko from the future.

Here are three reasons why the theory cannot be true:

1. The Crystal Pool only shows people who have passed away, meaning people of the past. Liko is still alive.

2. Liko has a hair tuft that would make her silhouette be noticeable. The woman in the fog does not have a hair tuft.

If you say that it gets smaller as she gets older, well, you're wrong.

The females in Liko's family all have large hair tufts and Liko has the biggest so far.

Diana also retains the same size hair tuft from when she was a girl.

3. The anime follows the Scarlet timeline, so there is no need to look into the future. Laqua is a place of the past. The RVTs need to search for pieces of the past to locate Laqua.

My guess is that the woman in the fog is Lucius's wife or one of his female companions.

What are your theories?

[dawgri]

So I been thinking, maybe the reason Penny is with The Elite four in Anipoke isn't only because "she works for them" but because she's PART of the league.

Let me explain real quick, at the end of scarlet and violet/operation starfall, instead of Team star disbanding, Clavell offer them to work with the league instead, right? To train students in their bases acting as training centers, this again is under the LEAGUE now.

Penny being the leader and not having a base of her own could very much put her in a position of "ok you completed and defeated all team star bosses so now you have the right to challenge the final boss"

To sorta "complete" that training.

It's a whole new challenge for students to take part of for those who attend the academy, mirroring the gym challenge, both, of course, optional.

But this would make Penny hold a position as a league member that's similar to a elite 4 member and I think that's pretty cool.

[star-arcana]

Pokemon Horizons Theory: Kieran's current team (Spoilers for Horizons and the DLC's to Scarlet and Violet!)

Hello everyone, here is Star-Arcana and I am here with a bit of a small theory and some quasi predictions on Kieran's team!

Since Horizons is going to show us his sister Carmine, who is probably going to get her ass handed by the RVT!

With Kieran I had a lot of thoughts and a lot of speculation before it, my most notable one is that he is going to be a dark-counterpart to her in the far future, since we know how his final team looks like in the Indigo Disk. Here is a small team that he owns in my own theory/headcanon for Horizons:

As I mentioned above, I think the writers will set him up as the Anti-Liko due to their similarities as characters: Shy, introverted, have a fierce battle side, are highly sensitive and compassionate, as well as having been rather lonely for much of their lives . So to make someone a dark shadow of what they could have become,had they allowed their darkness to corrupt them, Kieran would be perfect for Liko as her most dangerous rival ever. In the future I will expand on this idea, but as of now, I am sick, so I keep it brief, witty and simple!

The idea of them being counterparts is also based on the fact that they share something in common with 3 of their Pokémon:

Incineroar is of the Litten evolutionary line, which is a Fire/Dark Type Starter Cat, kinda like with the Sprigatito line being Grass Types, with the final evolution Meowscarada being Grass/Dark Type. And since currently Floragato (Grass Type middle evolution of Sprigatito) is Liko's ace, we make here his Torracat as his ace, and that Pokémon is good. To diffrenciate it from Roy's Crocalor, it's ability is Intiminate. These cat Pokémon are a popular pairing and the Incineroar line being Kieran's ace makes sense with his heel-turn and then again his big heel turn once a certian experience with a legendary Pokémon shapes him into becoming good again! So a turn-heel warrior that changes from good, to bad and then true good again, is perfect for him and contrasts with the witchy vibes of Floragato and Meowscarada to his brawler vibes with, in this case, Torracat and Morgrem.

Speaking of whiches, Liko has currently a Hattrem (Psychic Type), which could evolve into Hatterene (Psychic/Fairy Type) in the future . This Pokémon is a female counterpart to the demonic Grimmsnarl(Dark/Fairy Type) line, with Morgrem(Dark/Fiary Type) being the middle evolution of said demonic Pokémon. They are both native to the Galar Region, their dex entries are next to each other and both have as secondary type, fairy, since they are based on fairy tale figures such as forest witches and ogres respectively. They also respond to emotions, but whereas the Hattrem line is irritated by emotions, even happy ones, the Morgrem lines feeds on negative ones as without it, it will bore itself. Because of this, the Hattrem line is for those who are empathic and have a calm personality like Liko, while the Morgrem line is for those who are thinking about gloomy things and have a lot of negative emotions, like Kieran. So a theme of light and darkness is seen with the two, Liko represents light, while Kieran respresents darkness.

Finally there is one Pokémon that is important to the two of them, and has shaped both lives tremendously:

Terapagos!!!

Liko and Kieran had this Pokémon in both of their lives involved heavily, as with Liko it saved it from a missfired Psycho Cut and is rather comportable with her partner, not just because she resembles his friend Lucius from ages past in terms of looks (strongly implied to him being Liko's ancestor), but is also because Liko is really kind-hearted and empathic. Kieran had by the time it forcibly made Terapagos his Pokémon due to his urge to become the hero of his own story and wanting to defeat the main character, who not only bested him many times, but caught the Pokémon he always wanted: Ogerpon!

In Liko's case, it started her adventure with the Rising Volt Tacklers, who are rivals and enemies to the explorers , an evil organisation that sought to hunt Liko down for the pendant containing Terapagos! Kieran sought Terapagos, Area Zero's Hidden Treasure, for himself. Liko due to this event made many irreplacable friends and became a happier person as a result, while Kieran became more lonely with him pushing away everyone after he was left out of something he cared about and wanted to get revenge on the player for taking away "his treasure" away. However Kieran lost Terapagos, as he terastalized it and made it agrressive, but that isn't the end of him. A fight with the Stellarform Terapagos ensues and when everything was nearly hopeless, Kieran got the encouragement needed to fight and help the player to pacify this Pokémon. Afterwards he became nicer and the only one able to help us against Pechurant after it turned his entire village into zombies...again.

In conclusion, they share 2 counterparts to the other's Pokémon evolutionary line, and had the same species of Pokémon.

What do you think? Could this team hint to a bigger connection between Horizons Kieran and Liko? tell me below by sharing and commenting, bye!

[kooldewd123]

alright, finally caught up on horizons! terastal debut was really good, but i hope they step away from the game stuff for a bit. a lot of the fun of the first two arcs imo was how much it felt like horizons was doing its own thing and not being beholden to game canon. and granted, they did still did new things with the paldea characters even if it was effectively still a condensed gym quest, but i kinda hope we don't spend too much time in kitakami and get to jump around to some non-game places again before the inevitable trip back to paldea for an area zero adventure. at least we're back with the whole rising volt tackler crew now! i didn't realize how much the show was missing without them until i saw them show up in the preview.

[bengal-tigers-on-petunias]

I'm pretty sure that mostly all of us have seen the comparison between amethio and hunter; or posts regarding it at least and I theorize that since dot and amethio have never interacted ( or at least I don't think so ) I'm pretty sure that dot will help when amethio has a mental breakdown and offer him a spot on the RVTs or smth kinda like how gus helped hunter but thats just me

[k4axoo]

So if we look at this mysterious character (otherwise known as gibeon) we can see that he has VERY similar hair to amethio almost the same

This made me think that maybe Gibeon is Amethio's father or has family ties with him?

[azuremoonns]

so after a discussion on twitter I decided to make this thread

[broke-bitch-12]

a little theory

I just saw this and it is a little theory

So liko has Terapagos and her jacket is like a similar color to its shell or stone whatever that is

And like roy and dot have red and purple respectively

So what if they get koraidon and miraidon respectively

[minty-the-marill]

I have a theory about Roy’s parents. I feel like their trip wasn’t meant to last 5+ years.

1. They got kidnapped by the Explorers

2. They somehow found Laqua

[drgnnova]

Could Amethio be related to someone Lucius knew in the past?

The main reason I think this is because of Terapagos's weird reaction toward Amethio at the end of Epsiode 24.

Before you bring up "it's because Amethio tried to steal the pendant", I would like to kindly disagree with this.

The reason I don't think this is the case is because Zir and Conia were also there, and they have also tried to steal Terapagos (when it was a pendant). But Terapagos seem to only react to Amethio.

Also even though Spinel also tried to steal the pendant (Terapagos), Terapagos never summoned the shield even though Spinel went further than Amethio.

Terapagos has only summoned shields against amethio (as far as I remember).

Also, Rayquaza got way more angry at Amethio than the other characters. Landau says "it does not seem to wish to fight". But once it sees Amethio, it gets really angry and tries to attack Amethio. You could say this is because Amethio is trying to fight it, but Rayquaza gets really aggressive over it but when Roy wants to battle/capture it like Amethio, Rayquaza completely ignores Roy.

Also both times when Rayquaza and Terapagos react to Amethio, it's focuses on Amethio's face/eyes as if they (Terapagos and Rayquaza) recongize him from somewhere.

So maybe it is possible that Amethio is related to someone Lucius knew in the past and that's why Terapagos and Rayquaza react the way they did with Amethio.

Also Amethio is the only human other than Lucius that Terapagos has tried to reach out to. So far Terapagos has only tried to reach out to Amethio, Lucius and the six heroes (THIS PART MIGHT BE WRONG SO PLEASE CORRECT ME IF IT IS).