#point longtail!!!!!
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sprout-battlecats · 3 months ago
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rookflower · 2 years ago
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misc warriors art i don't think i've posted here yet!
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peteytheparrot · 5 months ago
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I love the warrior cats graphic novel with all of my heart but this Crookedstar design is NOT it, where is his crooked jaw?? I didn’t even know this was him at first ☠️
could we actually make the clearly shown disabled cats look disabled please idk just a thought 👍
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taking-it-paperback · 1 month ago
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Firestar giving Fernpaw to Longtail not because of the guilt of Swiftpaw's death but because he knew how well Longtail did with him and knew Fernpaw would be taken care of.
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amber-tortoiseshell · 6 months ago
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thoughts on longtail? people always interpret him in so many different ways..brown tabby, silver tabby, people with less knowledge of cat genetics often draw him as this light cream color with black stripes which could be seen as golden maybe but isn't realistic generally lol. canonically he's described as "pale brown tabby with black stripes" but is portrayed in the manga as looking almost blue.
Even the books don't seem to be able to agree on him:
"Longtail is a lean, pale brown tabby tom with black stripes and green eyes. [...] Although called silver in Rising Storm, he is called brown less than fifty pages later. [...] In addition, Longtail is depicted as a brown tabby in A Thief in ThunderClan, on his profile on the Warrior Cats website, and on his mini, though he is depicted as a silver tabby on the family tree."
I've said once that i'm with the figurine in this question, and I still am: I headcanon him as black tabby point - kinda brown, kinda grey, definitely pale.
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He has illustrations like these:
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Seems pretty close.
(warrior cats genetics ask game)
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titanofthedepths · 3 months ago
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Everything about both Longtail and Swiftpaw, and Cinderpelt and Brightheart gets a LOT sadder when you realize that they’re family
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autisticstarscream · 5 months ago
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I always get so confused when I see art of Swiftpaw either just before or after his death and hes.... kitten sized. they draw him like the stereotypical apprentice size.
Like... Y'all do realize he's older than Cinderpelt and Brackenfur in the first series, right? He was well within his rights to be pissed at not being a warrior. Hell, CINDERPELT got her full name before him, and even that took longer than Brackenfur getting his name. This is especially ironic considering Cinderpelt and Brackenfur were apprenticed /before they even reached 6 moons/. So he was even older than them, at least by a moon or so.
Swiftpaw was a full ass adult but trapped in the apprentice den. Hell, Ashfur and Ferncloud, two cats also in the apprentice den with him when he died, were BORN in Into The Wild, while he was apprenticed in early Fire and Ice, which takes place literally right after Into the Wild.
Swiftpaw was approximately only four moons away from being /2 years old/. Most warriors these days are made such around 1 year old. Brightheart and Thornclaw also were practically adults when in the apprentice den. All three should've been made Warriors a whole lot sooner, and were right for being mad about it.
Hell, taking into account as well that it almost feels like Thornclaw and Brightheart were apprenticed LATE. We have to go by the assumption that Bluestar wouldn't immediately brand herself a hypocrit and apprentice kits at 3 moons, because SEVERAL moons pass in Fire and Ice, between the times of Cinder and Bracken being apprenticed and the end. Meanwhile, Thorn and Bright are apprenticed in the next book, during which Cinder has ALREADY had her leg injured, healed, and "decided" to be a medicine cat.
EDIT: not saying no one can draw swift small thats perfectly fine!!!! just saying it feels like we're infantalizing him a little bit...
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waffultaim · 2 months ago
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Well I'm not so dumbfounded on Longtail as a character tbh but I think him being the mentor of Bramblepaw instead of Fireheart could have been a good add to his character development.
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Imagine that when Bluestar is about to speak of who will be Bramblepaw mentor, a voice rises in the crowd interrupting the ceremony, surprised Fireheart looks at the origin of the voice just to find that is Longtail the cause of it and not so far away Goldenflower is also there as well, looking at both leader and deputy...
do you see my vision?
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cicadagaze · 2 years ago
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hmm... what if i made a bunch of polls for Eye Color Discourse. could be fun. but dovewing is like. the only one i can think of for eye color DISCOURSE. i'd personally add ravenpaw as well, but like... who else...
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yuridovewing · 1 year ago
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Adderswift lineage is like "Okay so not only are Spottedleaf and Redtail Tigerstar's aunt and uncle, but Tigerstar is also first cousins with Darkstripe and Graystripe, this is indisputable canon btw you can't argue against this it's totally set in stone and what we intended the entireeeeee time. Oh also Patchpelt fathered a bajillion babies and Longtail and Swiftpaw are siblings for some reason because obviously Swiftpaw has to be Longtail's baby brother for him to give a fuck about his death. You can't feel sad someone died unless you wanna fuck them or they're family. This 100% makes sense btw and you cant contest this"
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rainheartrivercat · 2 years ago
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I redrew my gorl Tangledpath from my glory days (aka when I was ten and first read Ravenpaw’s manga lol)
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werewolfcave · 1 year ago
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tags by @bumblebeerror
"Cinderpelt should've been a warrior, cats can function perfectly fine with 3 legs" "Jayfeather could've been a warrior, blind cats navigate well with their other senses" "Briarlight could've gone on patrols, have you seen how well cats with paralyzed legs get around?" OK but that's not the point at all. Let's stop talking about that. It doesn't matter if it's technically true. The books present us with these situations where we, as readers, are meant to understand that these characters are unable to fulfill the same duties that their able bodied Clanmates can, regardless of the accuracy to real cat biology. The lens we need to use to examine disability in Warriors isn't "can they function like abled cats?" It's "If they can't function like abled cats, what are their choices and what does their quality of life look like? How are they treated?" Because that's where the real issues are.
#this is genuinely a very good point#like yes Jayfeather could have been a warrior he could have learned but because of his dream sight they weren't willing to accommodate#for him in that way. Additionally Brightheart only GOT that accommodation because Cloudtail put in the time and effort to accommodate for#her in a way the rest of the clan was not nearly as willing to do. This comes back to the very real question that disabled people face and#that is the question of how are we accommodated for? It's not like WC has the fucking ADA or anything there is no law telling them to#accommodate for their clanmates so instead it is up to the cats who genuinely care to help because it is the right thing to do it's how we#continue to survive is we help eachother and we do see snippets of this with the care elders are shown but often disabled characters are#not given that same kindness OR are shoved in the elders den. Longtail is an interesting example because he both chose to retire and#is accommodated for by Mousefur who guides him along and helps him get a better picture of what's going on#And I remember seeing this post that Longtail retiring is not really a show of the continuous ableism in the series but rather that Longtai#no longer felt fit to be a warrior while he is adjusting to his blindness. And that post resonated with me as someone who suddenly#became somewhat significantly disabled out of the blue after getting COVID and how it was a struggle for me to do my regular activities#anymore. I even had to stop sitting at my desk and started laying on my bed due to the levels of exhaustion.#this then wraps back around to OP's point of what are the choices they have what is the quality of life they will now face and when we look#at how being accommodated is not entirely the norm we understand that question more and more. I find that reading the disabilities#in this book series under this lens very much lends more to my experiences as a disabled person because I find that there ARE things#I either can't do or genuinely struggle to accomplish and would not want to be continuously doing as my day job or something not if I had#literally any other option.#wc
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mud-castle · 26 days ago
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I love the short Firestar headcanons, but I raise you this:
The clans thinking he was short for like a year because he was actually a kit when he joined. He's average height.
Like no one asked his age at any point, he could've easily been like four or five moons old. I'm guessing they assumed he was six moons because he was on his own.
By the time they mention that part of the Warrior Code he's just hit six moons so he keeps it to himself.
That would explain how he's able to beat cats like Tigerstar multiple times. Poor guy was fighting for his life everyday as an apprentice.
The queens would probably recognize that he looks too young, but due to stereotypes they'd just assume that's how kittypets are. Of course he looks small and soft, he's a kittypet, they're just like that. They'd probably warm up to him quicker though.
Lol, Longtail getting beaten up by a baby. Better yet, Longtail finding out he tried to beat up a baby.
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airoarts · 6 months ago
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Some cute cats
[ID: a drawing of several disabled Warrior Cats characters. Leafstar is a brown and cream tabby with cataracts, sitting down. Crookedstar is a big brown mackerel tabby with his jaw twisted to one side, with some teeth and his tongue sticking out. His nose is also twisted upwards and his eye is squinted. Cinderpelt is a gray cat with a few white spots, with a twisted hind leg she is keeping off the ground. Brightheart is an orange-and-white cat with significant scarring on one side of her face, without an eye, ear, or lip on that side, and scarring over the rest of her body, in a sitting position. Deadfoot is a black cat with a twisted front foot, which he keeps off the ground as he runs. Briarlight is a dark brown colorpoint cat with paralyzed back legs. Her front legs are fairly buff and she appears to be talking to Jayfeather, who is a silver cat with markings like a blue jay on his face and blue eyes, blind from birth. He is sitting and his large ear is pointed towards Briarlight. Longtail is also a silver tabby with scratched blind eyes, which are slightly open with the third eyelid showing. He is relaxed and smiling. end ID]
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beakers-and-telescopes · 1 year ago
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Seeing UV colors is common for butterflies, but in some species, it is a female-only power
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So, you may or may not know that many butterflies can actually see in UV light. It is very cool and I'm definitely not jealous that they get extra colors. It's helpful to them because many flowers have UV patterns on them (invisible to us) that let the butterflies know that they're a good source of food. The plants get pollinated and the butterflies get to eat. Everybody wins. This is a simulated version of what butterflies might see when they look at a flower.
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Some butterflies, such as the zebra longwing pictured above, only display this trait in females. Because of this, male and female butterflies will tend to visit different types of flowers. But scientists have just recently figured out how this difference came to be, evolutionarily speaking.
Obviously many species have sexually dimorphic traits, some more prominently than others. There are also cases in which one sex develops a trait that is just... less useful than the other, like this case with the UV vision. Almost all butterflies can see in the UV spectrum, so it follows that at some point in the evolutionary line the male zebra longwing butterflies lost that particular ability. There are multiple ways that this sort of thing can happen, and the article covers them briefly, but after sequencing the genome for these butterflies they found that none of those previously seen explanations were the case.
Basically, we already know the gene that causes UV vision in butterflies. It is called the opsin gene. In zebra longtail butterflies, this gene occurs on the chromosome W, which is the female sex chromosome. That means that sometime in history, this gene just jumped from a normal chromosome onto the female-only chromosome, and has locked the male butterflies out of this ability ever since. This is the first time we have seen a gene do a jump like that, and it is pretty cool.
But anyway, appreciate the girlpower of zebra longwing butterflies getting all the UV vision, and take a look at the study! It's free to read, which is really nice to see.
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amber-tortoiseshell · 1 year ago
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what's your color headcanons for cinderpelt and longtail?
Cinderpelt
Blue tortie! She has three red siblings, and most importantly a red sister, so I had to choose between tortie Cinderpelt or tortie Brightheart. I chose Cinderpelt, because I like the paralell of the smoldering ashes imagery of her name vs the grey-orange tortie coloration.
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In my head she has little cream on her, maybe even less then the cat above.
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This makes Frostfur genetically tortoiseshell too, and since she isn't full white for me (she doesn't have white parents nor kits, it's easier this way), I chose a very light color: blue tortie tabby point with white.
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Longtail
I have to admit Longtail isn't included in my family tree (yet); he just doesn't have any canon family up to point I've read the books. However I like the tabby point mini that came out recently, so I'll probably keep that. (And the wiki says he's also Robinwing's child, like Frostfur, which means I already put the allele into the family.)
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