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uberaalison · 5 years
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Working Professor theory
I’m just rambling off the top of my head here, but I may have started to figure out something about this mysterious list.
My thinking is that the list is used to identify people on campus who are capable of doing “bad things.” We know that when it was used as Mona’s admissions system, it was able to flag potential students based on certain personality traits, and I believe that this is the reason why the Professor hijacked it. He or she wanted to come up with a group of people who have the capability to become immoral and/or criminal.
Why Ray, Alison, and Caitlin were on the list from the beginning, I have no idea. But I do think I know why Ava, Mona, and Dylan, at least, were added when they were. We saw their names added to the list at the start of the gala, long before they covered for Taylor shooting Jeremy, so it obviously wasn’t that incident that got them pegged.
I think that the list was the reason for the strangely parallel stories of all three of them nearly being kicked out of BHU. Ava was using the money her father had embezzled from innocent people for her own benefit, instead of returning it, which is objectively wrong. Mona was knowingly sleeping with a student at the school, which, as long as it’s against the school’s policy, is objectively wrong (and morally ambiguous). Dylan was blatantly plagiarizing and attempting to skirt around the consequences, which is also clearly wrong. All three of these incidents were coming to a head at the time of the gala, and I think that’s why they were all added to the list at that time - it was determined that they were all capable of doing, once again, “bad things.”
It was all seven names being added to the list that gave the Professor the evidence he/she needed to end the surveillance stage. They’d all proven that they were capable, in some way, of doing something immoral or illegal. 
As for stage two, Marlene has said that the Professor is going to be much more interactive with the group. I’m still working out what I think the goal of this whole experiment is, but I do believe that it has something to do with either studying how far people can be pushed before they’re not willing to go any farther, or possibly grooming a group of people into committing some kind of atrocious act that the Professor has in mind.
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pepelovestippi · 6 years
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THE PERFECTIONIST CAITLIN THEORY *BOOK SPOILERS!!!!*
Now first of all, it’s a little coincidental that of all the ways Nolan could die that were discussed in the woods, it was Caitlin’s version that ended up being Nolan’s end. In the books, they all collectively came up with one scenario, which came true.
**MAJOR BOOK SPOILERS NOW**
So in the books, Caitlin’s surname is Martel-Lewis. This has been changed in the show, to Parker-Lewis, to honour one of the books two lost characters, Parker.
In the book two of the perfectionists are Parker and Julie, who have been removed from the show, and seemingly “replaced” by Mona and Alison (although not entirely, as Mona and Alison do not play the same role as Parker and Julie did in the books). Parker and Julie are best friends, and Parker was injured (I can’t remember exactly how it’s been a while since I read the books, it may have been a fire) and left disfigured.
It is revealed, that Julie suffers from multiple personality disorder, and Parker is her other personality, whom killed Nolan.
It’s very suspicious to me how Caitlin’s name was changed to Parker.
At first I thought, there would be no way it could be one of the perfectionists, but that’s exactly how the perfectionists books differed from the pretty little liars books. In PLL both the books, and show, the big bad would never have been a Liar. The big reveals, apart from mona, always turned out to be characters we’d none little to nothing about. Eg. Charlotte, we knew as CeCe, and Alex we never knew existed. It was never going to be one of the liars or another character we’d grown attached to. The perfectionists reads a lot more interesting, shocking and twisted, when it makes its main “villain” one of the perfectionists, someone who has been looking for the killer WITH them.
No matter what happened in PLL, it was pretty wholesome overall. We always knew there would be a happy ending. And it’s been said from day dot, that the perfectionists is a lot darker, and more twisted than PLL. Which IMO was apparent from episode 1.
So I would not be shocked, but would be extremely pleased if one of the perfectionists turned out to be our killer. And right now my moneys on Caitlin!!
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themarinaalexis · 4 years
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Despite what the show portrayed, was Alison REALLY the fifth Liar? This is a topic that I’ve discussed in bits and pieces here on Tumblr before, but I decided to combine all of my arguments into one massive video - check it out!
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(This was harder then I thought!!) (mainly cuz I only know my top 3! the rest, I picked at random!) tagging, @ishiptoomanypeopleontv​, @mashmaiden​, @ejzah​ @typingtess​, @ncis-ncislafan​, @romancemedia​, @dominicvail​, @teamgibbsncis​, and @kassiesfandomtrash​
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thebestplltheories · 6 years
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PLL: The Perfectionists - List of Questions
I’m bringing back one of my all-time favourite posts for The Perfectionists! I’ll be updating this weekly by adding new questions and filling in answers as we receive them. If you like this, please share. Since I will be updating this weekly, you may currently be reading an old reblog. Click here to refresh the latest version.
Who killed Nolan Hotchkiss? 
Why was Nolan killed?
Who is The Professor?
What is The Professor’s social experiment?
Who is BH4?
Who tried to kill Taylor and why?
Why was Nolan killed in the exact way that Caitlin imagined?
Before Nolan was killed, he said “time’s running out”. What was going to happen?
Nolan apologises to his killer for being an ass to them. Nolan then asks his killer for their help because they are trustworthy. Why was Nolan being an ass to someone he trusted and needed? Nolan is simply a smart-ass. His comments in class were attention seeking. He wanted Ali’s help because Mona’s personality matching program suggested that Ali is similar to Taylor. 
How was Nolan protecting Ava by cheating on her? Nolan wanted to push Ava away because his investigations into who hijacked Beacon Guard was getting dangerous. (109)
Who created Beacon Guard? Taylor, when she was 14. She did this after she witnessed her father get shot and she wanted everyone in Beacon Heights to be safer. She’s devastated that she failed by Nolan getting killed. (109).
Why did Taylor Hotchkiss fake her death? Taylor discovered that someone hijacked Beacon Guard to spy on a select group of students. She never figured out who did this, but she get too close that someone tried to kill her so she disappeared for her own safety. She thinks this same person killed Nolan. (109).
How did Taylor get away with faking her death? She’s been living in a RV in a forest near Beacon Heights. (105).
Who knew about Taylor faking her death? Nolan knew, Alison recently learnt, and Claire had a hunch.
Why was Alison denied access when searching on Taylor’s suicide in 101?
Who followed Nolan to Taylor’s cabin in 101? Ava (103).
Taylor says in 101 that “they are using Beacon Guard to spy on a select group of students”. Who is “they”? Alison DiLaurentis, Mona Vanderwaal, Dylan Walker, Ava Jalali, Caitlin Park-Lewis, Taylor Hotchkiss and Ray Hogardon. (110)
Why are “they” spying on students?
Nolan said to Ali in 101 that “my mother’s gonna say to you that you’re here because you remind me of my sister. It’s more than that”. What is “more than that”? Claire used Mona’s program to find someone similar to Taylor; Alison. Claire brought Alison to Beacon Heights because she believed that Ali could find Taylor. And Ali did. (105)
Who sent Alison that text in 102 reading “meet me on the roof of Thorne Hall. I need your help”? And why was this sent? Nolan did send this to Alison, but due to the Beacon Guard blackout that night, Alison didn’t receive the text until the next day. Alison was the person that Nolan wanted to bring into his plan with Taylor, regarding finding out who is abusing Beacon Guard to spy on people. (105)
Who wrote “they’re watching you” on the walls in Alison’s apartment? Ray Hogadorn. He was warning Taylor that someone wanted to hurt her. (105)
Was it a true error or was it meaningful that Claire said “before Taylor went missing” in 102, and when Taylor “left” in 104? Claire never truly believed that Taylor was gone, says Taylor (105).
Who whispered “it’s just like you imagined it” in 102?
Who put the rat and note in Ava’s car in 103?
Who is Mona’s chess buddy? Mason (107).
What does the rat symbolise? That Caitlin ‘rat’ out Ava by spreading the story of Ava’s father’s treason (104).
Who is Ray Hogadorn? Why does Ray have newspapers with Hotchkiss headlines in his room in 104? An ex-BHU student who now works on campus for maintenance. He knew Taylor and had to ‘clean up’ after Nolan’s death. He’s just curious what happened. (105)
Who inserted the photo of Dylan and Nolan into Ava’s slideshow in 105?
Who run over Caitlin with the car in 105 and why? 
What is on Jeremy’s computer and why is he so determined to hide it? He was following Nolan that night and he timed the Beacon Guard blackout that night, so that he could get up on the roof and back down in the camera’s sight without being questioned. (109)
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bitchimcoco · 6 years
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THIS THEORY IS SO AMAZING GUYYYYS
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Does anyone else think that Zach may be part of the experiment and that’s why he and Ava were paired by their art professor? Didn’t he say they were ‘forced’ together?
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heyheycaitalin · 5 years
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Why do I feel like Professor Granger (the professor Alison is the TA for) is orchestrating this whole thing? Like what if he/she paid Nolan to fake his death? Nolan gets an easy A for that class, gets out of all his other classes and off the crew team, gets away from his mother, just gets away from the Hotchkiss name and all its pressure entirely? Jeremy could be in on it too. Why? Idk, but when has reason really mattered in this PLL universe?
So far we haven't seen Professor Granger at all. I don't even know if they're a man or woman. Whoever they are, we don't know anything about them so theories are wide open. I think they wanted an experiment to see how a real life murder mystery would pan out. I think they also want to bring light to the ridiculous amount of pressure these kids are put under.
I started this theory a couple nights before Enter the Professor came on Hulu. I put it in my drafts when it felt like I was reaching. But come on, a villain named The Professor?
We don't know what Professor Granger looks like, sounds like, we don't know anything about him/her. But Alison was assigned to TA their class. Nolan, Ava, Caitlin, and Dylan were all in the class. Their summer assignment just so happened to be a murder mystery by Alison's favorite author. Coincidence? Nothing is coincidence here.
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Pretty Little Liars: The Perfectionists theory.
Toby and Mona are working together again and Spencer, Toby, and Alex will all arrive in Beacon Heights sometime in the future.
When Freeform aired the Pilot episode they had Keegan Allen hosting the premiere party. In a promo for the premiere party Keegan is sporting the iconic black hoodie and says “Hey there....or should I say “A” there”
During the premiere party towards the end of the pilot Keegan said “This is PLL so someone isn’t gonna make it out alive”
In episode 2 of “The Perfectionists” Mona is working on her algorithm and humming a very familiar song. The Teddy Bear Picnic song from 3x13 after singing the song in 3x13 Mona turns to “A” to hand them pills and bullets and says of the Halloween train “someone won’t make it to the end of the line”
Two of the most consistent things about PLL is that the cops aren’t to be trusted and the liars never trusted Mona. So when “A”lex was finally caught do we really believe that the liars trusted the lame rosewood cops to keep Alex and Mary locked up?
Maybe the liars trusted Mona to keep Alex and Mary in her French doll house. Maybe it was only a couple of liars, maybe Ali was one and that’s why Emily is having trust issues with Ali, because she found out Ali agreed to Mona holding Alex and Mary captive.
In season 6 Toby expressed that he didn’t trust Ali even after everything that had happened.
Like Mona said “when someone shows me who they are I believe them”
In the pilot of “The Perfectionists” Mona talks to the mirror in Alison’s new house saying with a hint of sarcasm “Alison is as determined as ever”. It seems whomever Mona was talking to knows Alison as well as Mona does.
At the end of episode 2 Mona reveals through a phone call to Hanna that Spencer and Toby eloped. The word eloped implies that Spencer and Toby ran away to get married (perhaps because Mona told them Alex and Mary had escaped and could show up at anytime.) Mona’s response to hearing that Spencer and Toby eloped was “They didn’t even tell you?” There’s a smugness to the comment that makes me think Mona did know, was told about the impending marriage.
I think Mona, Toby and maybe even Spencer have orchestrated a new game to lure Alex out of hiding. Like with the first series it’s As world and the new liars are just living in it.
When Nolan said “they did bad things, they had bad things done to them” I immediately even before the show aired thought he was talking about the OG liars.
For every bear that ever there was
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Today is the day the teddy bears have their picnic
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kkthanks · 5 years
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EXCERPTS FROM OLD POSTS where I had some decent ideas about PLL the Perfectionists (so you don’t need to read all the long posts)
Now it’s all been an experiment & being described as psychological warfare and it makes me feel like a FREAK once again for saying things like this so long ago:
Mona speaks into the mirror what the hell just happened was this our fault? (In reference to Nolan’s death) Answer me damn it. Then someone replies to Mona “Mona, go to your safe place!” This is supposed to make it appear that Mona is not talking to herself and doesn’t have some sort of multiple personality issue, but we have just watched an episode of a show creepily focused on surveillance, so I wouldn’t doubt that the person was telling Mona to go the “safe place” in her mind. Maybe Mona’s behavior we have seen talking to herself in front of the mirror is a symptom that triggered whoever that woman was to react by telling Mona to go to her safe place.
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As I mentioned before, I think Mona May have met Taylor at a mental hospital type place and helped her fake her death the same way she helped Charlotte “stay gone.” It could be some sort of high tech therapy they do.
I am seriously so weird! Some of my guesses are similar to what might be happening.
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ghostie-hoe · 6 years
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PLL THE PERFECTIONISTS 1x01 RECAP & THEORIES
So the episode opens with Sofia Carson’s monologue introducing the theme of the show - perfectionism and how the desperation for perfection has lead someone to snap under pressure and kill.
The monologue is talking about prestigious students at the University, so we can be lead to believe that the person who killed Nolan is amongst them - a student. I’d say, let’s keep an open mind and not rule out Dylan, Caitlin and Ava just yet.
In the next scene, Alison is in a Uber on her way to Beacon Heights, claiming that she doesn’t know anyone in town. We then see Alison entering her new home - there’s a sound and suddenly she’s a character in a horror film calling out “Hello?” And of course she checks the basement. It’s easy to fall back into old fears after two years of a safe, AD-free life. Mona then appears out of nowhere holding a knife and box of pie. Classic Mona. Creepy. Alison doesn’t seem to surprised to see Mona, they make small talk. Alison asks Mona “What are you doing here?” and She explains lightly that Mary and Alex escaped her dungeon (without confirming those words) and then moves onto say that she does GAME DESIGN for Hotchkiss. GAME DESIGN.
Let’s just throw back to the original show where Mona was addicted to the game - she became a master at the game and even admired Alex’s board game. In other words she was unhealthily fascinated by it. Why is nobody bringing up Mona doing Game design when we know now that she may have been communicating with someone through mirrors and is in the house where this state of the art security system is located? Link? Coincidence? There are no coincidences in Rosewood therefore no coincidences in Oregon. Mona talking to Alison about fresh starts and trust and Alison expresses wanting to leave the old mean girl behind her and help the kids and Mona replies “You will. I know it.” Mona already knows something. She brought Alison here for a reason knowing that she’d be able to help. “Allison’s determined as she ever was, don’t you think?” I’m not gonna be surprised if Mona is talking to her other personality (more on that later).
Alison and Mona walking to campus together and Alison brings up Taylor Hotchkiss to which Mona says “lovely girl” and Alison gets a little suspicious about the timeline of Mona being in Beacon Heights after Taylor committed suicide and not during. Mona always has an answer for everything “I read up on her” she claimed. From this, I believe that Mona knows Taylor is alive. Mona just knows everything.
Alison begins her first day at Beacon Heights by signing her name on a digital board and this full scene has How to get away with murder vibes. We first meet the mains in this scene. Alison launches into conversation about one of her favourite books by Agatha Christie ‘And then there were none’
Ten strangers, apparently with little in common, are lured to an island mansion off the coast of Devon by the mysterious U.N.Owen. Over dinner, a record begins to play, and the voice of an unseen host accuses each person of hiding a guilty secret. That evening, former reckless driver Tony Marston is found murdered by a deadly dose of cyanide.
The tension escalates as the survivors realise the killer is not only among them but is preparing to strike again… and again...
Marlene always chooses literature that has significance to the story - to her characters. So, let’s say our island mansion is Beacon Heights, who has been lured to Beacon Heights? Alison. As far we can tell as we’re only one episode into the story, nobody has been accused of having guilty secrets - however, Nolan was blackmailing Caitlin. Our Tony Marston is Nolan Hotchkiss, the first and one of many people to be murdered and the killer is amongst them, meaning the killer must be one of the main characters we were introduced to, Dylan, Caitlin , Ava, Dylan’s boyfriend, Caitlin’s secret boyfriend or someone we haven’t yet been introduced to in Alison’s class. At this point, Taylor could’ve murdered her own brother.
Dylan is called on to talk about a theme in the book and he chooses isolation. “The author deliberately picks this remote location so the characters can escape themselves. It’s part of their punishment.” Let’s take note of the significance of the mains answers. Dylan talking about isolation may have significance to his role in the story or his own secrets. Is Dylan out? Does he feel isolated?
We then have Ava who claims that Dylan is always right to avoid answering the answer because she didn’t have an answer. She then goes onto say “Well it’s about dichotomy of something and nothing.” A reflection of how Ava feels about herself knowing that she’s a real person but nothing connotes her self esteem? Or even the whole Nolan - Ava - Caitlin - situation. She then admits that she didn’t read the book because she was too busy focusing on growing her YouTube channel, her outlet for paying her tuition.
And then we have Caitlin. “The author wasn’t subtle. She named a character justice. It comes down to, well, is it okay to murder a murderer?” Caitlin isn’t a subtle person as we can see from the later scenes where she speaks of being inspired by her fantasy to get rid of someone to Alison and then describing how the core 3 could murder Nolan, and it happened in the exact way she said. Caitlin goes on to to say that she would hurt someone that hurt someone she loves. Nolan then says “Don’t worry babe, nobody would mess with me.” Now, Caitlin turns to look at Nolan before he reassures her that nobody would hurt him. We find out later in the episode that Nolan is blackmailing Caitlin with information about an affair between one of her mothers and another person. Little hint that Caitlin wouldn’t hesitate to hurt Nolan for destroying her family - and their perfectionism dynamics?
And finally, Nolan. “Paybacks a bitch. Characters got what they deserved. They did terrible things, they got terrible things done to them. Thought you’d appreciate that world view, Miss Dilaurentis.”
So first of all, Nolan obviously has information on Alison’s history because ‘missing dead girl turns up alive’ would make serious headlines but it seems a little deeper than that. I’d say his insider is Mona. It’s possible that this has significance to the other girls for partaking in bullying ‘Loser Mona’ the Jenna Thing etc. Possibly hinting at Alison coming back and being tormented by Alex and “Elliot”, the insemination. And we all know that seeing a dead body in PLL doesn’t always mean that character is always dead, this could be Nolan’s plan. Fake his death, Make it look extremely convincing ie. a body. One of my followers suggested that Nolan could’ve had a Nolan mask made (not shocking in the PLL universe) and this statement is him talking about his plan to kill people who deserve it in his mind because “people did terrible things and had terrible things done to them.” After saying that the camera pans to Alison, Dylan and Ava. Interesting. His victims maybe?
After the class ends, Alison pulls Nolan to the side and asks Why he thinks she knows about payback and he answers with “My mother is gonna tell you that you’re here because you remind her of my sister. It’s more than that.” Weird answer to bring the Taylor and Alison comparison into it. Rather, Nolan knows that Taylor is alive, faked her death. An early hint that Taylor isn’t dead. You can’t recruit someone because they’re blonde and remind you of your blonde daughter, there’s more to Taylor in Claire’s eyes that reminds her of Taylor. Was Taylor a mean girl?
The group are walking out of the main building whilst Nolan is trying to confirm Caitlin’s attendance at Claire’s dinner party and Caitlin claims that she has plans to which Nolan replies with “Can’t imagine what would be more important than you showing up for me” Showing up for me? That’s not something you normally say to your girlfriend (But Caitlin isn’t Nolan’s girlfriend, she’s being blackmailed into it so that he can date Ava without his mother knowing) Then Nolan talks about the papers that Dylan has to write for Nolan and Ava because he’s the smartest. Nolan has something on him for him to say “I’ll do yours but I can’t do Ava’s” then talks about another academic interest of his. So, Ava is our Hanna equivalent, possibly secretly very smart, interested in her social media presence and was doing fashion design during the monologue. Dylan is our Spencer, academically focussed. Ava and Nolan leave and Caitlin expresses to Dylan how she thought things would be different this year and Dylan asks “Because of Taylor? He didn’t even cry at her funeral” Nolan didn’t cry because he knew that his sister wasn’t dead. She’s alive. That’s why he didn’t cry. Also, it’s socially acceptable not to be crying at a funeral because everyone grieves differently. Caitlin then goes on to ask if she can help him with anything that Nolan has on him and Dylan claims that they’re all his fake friends and they hang out with him to make it look like he has “the perfect posse” Caitlin seems to want to make a real friendship out of the fake friendship, with Dylan anyways. We then get the scene of Dylan walking away, a pan to the camera ontop of the building and a birds eye view shot of Caitlin on her own and people walking in different directions around her. I LOVE THE WAY THIS IS FILMED. Camera cuts to Mona walking through campus and Alison sneaking up on her and startling her.
Alison mentions Nolan’s name and then about how her and Alison were talking all “Summer camp” about fresh starts and Mona doesn’t look surprised but asks “What did Nolan say” instead of giving her a straight forward answer. Mona claims that she didn’t tell anyone information about Alison and that Nolan doesn’t belong because he’s extremely smart. Nolan is now the Mona equivalent. She then says that by her calculations, Nolan could be dangerous.
Alison grading plagiarised papers against the plagiarism policy, at this point we need Spencer Hastings. The song in the background playing about wanting to be out of the familiar, can you help me please? I want to know. Significant? Why is the word ‘meticulous’ being highlighted for us to see. We could see Alison grading papers against that polity and talking to her students about it and we’d understand what’s happened but instead we are shown the scene of highlighting the word ‘meticulous’.. the shot of Alison’s glasses on the page gave me the PLL The Great Gatsby poster vibes (The one with the glasses and the eyes, saying ‘someone’s watching you’ )
Nolan has something on Dylan, his boyfriend questions him on writing papers for Ava and Nolan and he changes the subject to ‘I promised myself I wouldn’t get serious about anyone when I came to college, but the day I met you that changed.”
So then we have Caitlin, naked, laying on her bed doing her homework and her boyfriend comes over to her and they start making out. He strangely looks like Toby from his side profile and he has a British accent. Again, the partners asking why they associate with Nolan and we are given an answer. Nolan appears and starts talking about how even though Caitlin is seeing someone, to the outside world she and Nolan are still a happy couple. He then proceeds to blackmail her with a photo of one of her mothers having an affair with a man and Nolan says that he doesn’t want to have to ruin her political career. “Guess two moms don’t always make a right.” Wow. Emison? I love Emison. Caitlin feels comfortable enough to confide in her boyfriend about Nolan’s blackmailing and suggests that he talk to Nolan and find away to keep Caitlin’s family out of it and not ruin her political career. If this guy loves Caitlin, could he be the one for this very reason to murder Nolan?
Ava working hard on her YouTube channel. Nolan suggests that she takes the easy route and hire someone else to do the hard work. When you come from privilege, this is a common thing to say. He seems to downplay Ava’s ability, getting Dylan to write her paper and now saying that she should get someone else to do the hard work. Ava is a strong character, she stands up for herself and claims that she wants to take care of her own branding. She wants to reclaim her surname Jalali, and have people think of her not her father. Nolan constantly talks about his perfect family image, or at least how it looks to outsiders and claims that Ava will be somebody just by being herself.
We finally met Claire Hotchkiss, as Thebestplltheories pointed out the way she’s filmed to be looking down at Nolan, promoting her power. Claire opens with how she saw Ava and that she doesn’t want him involved with the Jalali family. He’s on the right track with Caitlin. Claire wanted Nolan to lead an extra practice and Nolan objects claiming that he wants time to himself. A healthy thing but his mother says that he can handle it because he always does.
Claire takes a phone call. “I want active surveillance of BH5.” “That’s your son.” BH5? Is Nolan under some kind of brand name or is BH5 the name for the group Ava, Caitlin, Dylan, Nolan And...? Why would Claire want to watch her son? That’s a little strange. I have a feeling that it has nothing to do with Ava.
We then have Alison telling Ava that this “extremely thoughtful and layered “ essay wasn’t written about Ava, and asks if Nolan or Dylan wrote it. The conversation then turns to Ava’s absent father and mother. Ava tells Alison that “My dad had to run, my mum chose to bail.” Which we are then taken to a flashback of an FBI agent interrogating Ava about her parents leaving and Ava claiming that they left her with everything - They did leave money though. Ava then tells Alison that if she wants to help, she should leave her and her friends alone and let it go. And again, Mona is watching. Mona is always watching. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mona has some device that allowed her to hear that conversation.
The party scene. Alison is standing by the window looking down at the party below - Caitlin and Nolan look heated with Caitlin attempting to storm off and Nolan grabbing her arm to pull her back. The camera then pans to Claire joining Alison by the window, “it’s quite the view isn’t it. When my daughter was little she loved to sit up here and watch our parties.” Then Claire starts talking about why she was impressed by Alison and wanted to recruit her. Her academic record? - Wait, girl goes missing and misses most of high school, to my knowledge doesn’t go to college.. pretty impressive academic record. Her essay, and her mean girl to mentor journey. So, Claire sees a comparison between Taylor and Alison and mentions, mean girl to mentor journey. This says to me that Taylor was probably a mean girl. Alison undermining her teen years as nothing to the pressure that the BHU students are under? Umm Alison you literally bullied many students; one of which had a personal vendetta against you and drove you to fake your death for years whilst she proceeded to torture the other girls and then when they thought that was over, your sister took over and built a real life dollhouse where she tortured your friends whilst you were behind bars. Not to mention that this again persisted with your ex husband who was under a fake identity and inseminated you with your fiancé?? Wife??? eggs. Yes, these people so have it harder than you and the other girls. So, then Claire proceeds to talk about just how similar Taylor is to Alison and how the death of her daughter motivated her to keep her students safe. I.e the security system, but suicide usually indicates a mental health problem and I’ve not yet seen any posters up about mental health or even talk of mental so far.. Mona and Claire really keep reassuring that Alison is safe at BHU.
The whole Dylan - Nolan situation. Dylan sees Andrew and Nolan socialising and asks Nolan why he’s talking to Andrew to which Nolan says that he hasn’t told him anything and that Dylan is hot when he’s angry. Dylan then says that he doesn’t want to see him angry. Question raised that I answered one of my followers last night, Am I under the impression that Nolan is biesexual? Honestly, I believe that Nolan is a manipulator, a toxic one who stops at nothing to get what he wants. He could very well be a closet bisexual (I’m a bisexual myself) but I think that he’s using Dylan’s sexuality against him if anything. Claire wanting Caitlin and Nolan to be next to each other in the perfectionism photo. Ava then subtly reaches for Nolan’s hand which he pulls away as his mother makes eye contact with Ava. She knows.
Alison joins Caitlin on the (bridge?) and compliments her on her provocative insight paper and says that it encouraged to take a look into her file. Alison brings up her opposition to capital punishment and that Caitlin almost made her believe that murder could be justified. Then shady Caitlin jokes that her paper was a little too inspired by her fantasy to get rid of someone - Nolan. Who ends up murdered at the end of the episode. We know by now that Alison DiLaurentis doesn’t take lies and bullshit. She saw right through Caitlin and Nolan’s happy couple image and offers her help. Caitlin then tells her that her asking questions will complicate things. Alison tells her that she knows about manipulation and compares her past self to Nolan. Caitlin tells Alison that Nolan will do whatever it takes to ensure that his mother knows she has the perfect son.
Mona leaves a couple that she’s touring to watch Nolan trek into the woods whilst she sips her wine. We see Nolan check for a BHU connection? There isn’t one and he proceeds to take a phone call. This means that there’s a system on the smartphones, possibly just Nolan’s that notifies someone - Miss Hotchkiss? Whoever Mona is working for? about what he’s doing on his phone - recording calls and messages. There’s no connection in the woods. He’s talking to Taylor, and we can’t hear her side of the conversation but this is how imagine it
Nolan: I need to see you
Taylor: Nolan, we’ve talked about this. It’s too dangerous. Mum’s close to knowing
Nolan: Yesh I was afraid of that. She’s ordered surveillance on me and she’ll be watching Ava too
Taylor: Break up with your girlfriend I’m bored.. (Kidding)
Taylor: She never gives it a break, this is exactly I did what I did.. You need to leave Ava. You need to protect her from our mother
Nolan: We need to meet
After this, Alison is talking to Dylan about his talent with words and Dylan says that that’s what it takes to be here. Alison then proceeds to bring up Nolan, how she knows about him and Ava. Asking why he’s manipulating Dylan into doing their papers. We get a flashback of Dylan and Nolan talking about how Nolan took a subject he wasn’t interested in to make conversation with his mother at family dinners. He constantly strives to impress her. Dylan gets envious and brings up how his family are far away therefore he doesn’t share that luxury and Nolan brings up Andrew. And then Nolan manipulates Dylan into cheating on Andrew. Alison knows that game “I know this is important to you, so you can tell me that you wrote those papers or goodbye to music hunny.” Wasnt quite like that but they share a moment when Dylan explains that he came from a small town and he wasn’t accepted for being “different” AKA gay and that music was his escape. It gives him a purpose.
Ava deserves so much better. We know that scene was staged but, I still feel for her because he died with her not knowing that he was protecting her.
Alison researching the Hotchkiss family. That clever and beautifully shot scene where we see her reflection in the laptop screen next to Taylor. This is like all the mirror scenes on PLL such as when the girls search Mona’s room for clues and we see half of Spencer’s face through the crack of the mirror - representing Alex. I genuinely hope there’s no more secret siblings.
Who followed Nolan to Taylor’s hideout? As Nolan enters the gateway, a white car parks up in the drive. Who is in that car?
Taylor is alive. That much was obvious. Nolan and Taylor are talking about how Nolan broke up with her to protect her. Taylor has a system where she monitors the BHU security system and Taylor claims that it can be proved that they’re using Beacon Guard to spy on a select few students. Nolan claims to know someone that they can trust - Alison ? Mona? .
Ava calls a meeting between herself, Dylan and Caitlin about putting a stop to Nolan’s manipulation. Going to Alison’s faculty - with Alison to take him down. Then comes the conversion of Killing Nolan
Caitlin: “I have fantasised about him drying in lots of different ways.”
Dylan: “Agatha Christie wasn’t wrong you guys. Murder can be justified.”
Ava: “Yeah But that’s just fantasy.”
Dylan: Drowning in that pool of his
Ava: “Heart arrack whilst he’s hooking up with some dumb ass bitch.”
Caitlin: “That’s inspired.”
Ava: Yuh, by recent events.”
Caitlin: “We push him off the roof. And it gives him a second or two to think about dying before he’s empaled on the spikes at the bottom.” Then there’s a rustle. Someone heard that conversation.
Mona in her car saying to the mirror. Who is she talking to by the way? “I think I’m doing a really good job, don’t you?” And then Alison fully parallels Hanna by smacking her car bonnet. “WHY AM I REALLY HERE?” Damn Ali D chill out. And then Alison is in Mona’s car talking about how it’s not just Nolan and his mother and Taylor could be her doppelgänger? You aren’t Elena sweetie. The physical similarities? Selected before Mona knew what she looked like. That’s not true though is it Mona? Alison saying what we’re all thinking and a little hint from Marlene here “Did you learn nothing from Rosewood, there are no coincidences.” Mona launches into this story of how Taylor cracked under the pressure and that’s why Alison is here, to help people like her and that’s all we get from that conversation
Another birds eye view. Somebody Is watching the three amigos walk together. “Maybe if there wasn’t a Nolan we’d be friends.” Taking a moment to refer back to the Agatha Christie novel “One amongst them is the killer.” All three want to him to disappear. The song as they all leave and turn back “Always said I was a good kid.” “Always said I had a way with words.” Significantly the camera focuses on Dylan at this point. He is the smartest one. Nolan is on the roof, watching them walk away. Nolan on the roof, “Sorry I’ve been an asshole to you.” Okay personally, I can’t rule out Caitlin yet. Whose to say that the scene where she walks away happens around like 5 minutes before or 10? Giving her time to get up to the roof. We have no timeline here. It could’ even be Mona. It’s unclear. He confirms that it’s not only about him, Taylor’s alive and they need help. Who would they need help from? It’s someone who’s Nolan has been horrible to but he needs their help. Alison lives in Taylor’s house so it’s plausible that Taylor wrote that “They’re watching you” message and covered it in wallpaper or Claire covered it. So we don’t actually see Nolan fall. We don’t see the timeline. Whose to know that someone didn’t just stumble across this and didn’t see it physically happen in front of them. Ava has the most emotional reaction, Mona is extremely casual and Caitlin appears and looks at Jeremy. Jeremy. Hmm. Okay, so Ava and Dylan are gonna suspect Caitlin. The death happened in the exact way, Caitlin imagined after all. There’s a few ways this can go. A few different theories.
1. I saw a post on here yesterday where someone was comparing the bell tower deaths to Nolan falling off the roof. Marion also was pushed off the roof by Bethany. It’s an occurring theme to be pushed off a roof in this show. Marion, Ian off the bell tower and Charlotte. Mona was involved in two of these. This can be enough to suspect Mona. It’s in her character after all. Plus, Mona could’ve done it on orders of whoever she’s communicating with through mirrors
2. The conversation on the roof didn’t actually happen. Nolan lured someone up to the roof, somehow got them to agree to wear a Nolan mask and shoved them off the roof. He was the one that overheard Caitlin’s fantasy and recreated it to make the other two suspect her. He will now spend his days in hiding with his sister, cracking the mystery of the security system and such
3. The timeline isn’t clear. Caitlin had many shady moments in the first episode. She was loud about her fantasy to make Nolan disappear and expressed it on multiple occasions i.e “if someone hurt someone I love then yeah, I’d hurt them back.” telling Alison was a little too inspired by her fantasy to get rid of someone, Nolan and saying that she imagines Nolan dying in many ways, and the way that she described actually happened. Now, just because it seems a little obvious doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen. Nolan watches them all depart whilst he’s standing on the roof. Caitlin could’ve met him on the roof around 10 minutes later where she then pushed him because she believes that murder CAN be justified. She was one of the last people to turn up outside the university to see Nolan’s body after all.
The Mona theory may not add up, if she is communicating with someone through the mirrors as she’s asking “What the hell just happened. Was this our fault?” A person in a big room full of security things answers her telling her to go to her safe place. See, this can be interpreted in various ways - Mona has a personality disorder - This has never been said OUT LOUD. But she could really be talking to her other personality asking if this is our fault then being told to go to her a safe place, something therapists promote. But if she is communicating then, it can’t really make sense for that to Mona killing Nolan.
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uberaalison · 6 years
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I wanted to make this into its own separate post, because even though it relates to the one I just posted, in a way it’s kind of a separate issue.
“Go to your safe place.”
I thought that phrase sounded familiar, and now I remember where I remember it from.
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Now back to The Perfectionists, take a close look at the girl who Mona kicks out of the bathroom right before freaking out at the mirror.
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The glasses, the clothes...that doesn’t seem like it can be a coincidence. And then, right after Mona rushes in, in a state that’s agitated and just short of hysterical, we get this line from the woman behind the monitors:
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I’m not sure one way or the other how I feel about this scene yet, but could this be a possible indication that that room with the screens and people with clipboards really is just a figment of her imagination? Or, if it’s real, a sign that she’s close to a breakdown, just like near the end of PLL?
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pepelovestippi · 6 years
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a while ago we saw a photo of sasha in a dark wig, and there was a red coat in the new promo, is vivian darkbloom returning? 🤷🏼‍♀️
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themarinaalexis · 4 years
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Is the reboot responsible for The Perfectionists’ cancellation?
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(Disclaimer: This is just a theory that I’ve been turning over in my head and is in NO WAY confirmed or even likely.)
Remember that insanely long amount of time that it took Freeform to announce The cancellation of The Perfectionists? And how pretty much all of us were kind of thinking that something was strange? 
I mean, they greenlit a spinoff to their network’s most successful show ever, which starred two of the same characters and brought in other big names like Sofia Carson and Kelly Rutherford. They did tons of early promotion, photoshoots, events...they really hyped this thing up and the production value was obviously high. And then, when its ratings weren’t sky-high but were instead pretty on-par with the rest of the network - and even on the low side, at that - they dropped all promotion, stopped advertising it almost immediately, and went radio silent on the possibility of a season two.
I remember distinctly how strange it was to wait for months on end, past the Freeform Upfronts and the renewal announcements for just about every other show, with no mention of a decision. I remember Marlene and the other writers explaining that they were going in to deliver the season two pitch to the network, and that they had a lot of hope for a renewal. And then...boom. Cancelled. The world of PLL, which had basically made Freeform what it is today, was over with no fanfare at all.
It was weird, and it was almost hard for me to be angry or upset because I was just so confused by it all. It seemed like Freeform had actively sabotaged their own show, and I remember theories swirling even back then that some of the reason for the cancellation may have been due to the upcoming HBO MAX streaming service and disputes between networks (PLL and the spinoff were both owned by Warner Bros, but the Disney/Freeform had the right to air it). 
Maybe there was more truth to that than we thought? The timeline of “Original Sin” seems incredibly fast, with Roberto’s announcement of his intention to create it coming just a few weeks ago. It’s likely that this show has been in the works for quite a while...and was possibly even being considered last year. It’s entirely possible that Warner Bros knew they would be creating a “reboot” of sorts with the PLL name for their new streaming service, and couldn’t/didn’t want both to be airing at once.
This also provides some justification for the reaction by Marlene and many members of the cast. Marlene has been salty on social media since the original announcement, and it’s alleged that she and many cast members (Shay and Ashley being a few) have unfollowed the official “Pretty Little Liars” instagram account since they formally announced the new show yesterday. While I get their aversion to a new PLL being made just three years after their show ended, their anger over it seems unprofessional and unjust, especially considering the released synopsis makes it clear that this is not, in fact, a reboot at all, and just a totally different show set in the same universe.
But if it’s true that the creation of “Original Sin” is what led to the early and sudden cancellation of “The Perfectionists,” it makes a lot more sense why there would be resentment and bitterness on their side. I do not work in the entertainment industry so I have no idea how much validity this theory might hold, but I’ve wondered what the real deal was behind the spinoff’s cancellation for over a year now, and I can’t help but wonder if there could be some truth to this.
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The ratings forum that I frequent every day had a Best shows of 2019 poll where everyone voted for the shows they considered the best of this year. These are mine.
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PLL The Perfectionists - 1x01 Pilot LIVE REACTION
WE ARE BACK!!!!
Ok I’m gonna do what I was doing for PLL where I react as I watch. But before I copy and paste the live reaction, I want to give my quick overview. That was by far a 10/10. That achieved everything a pilot should achieve. It introduced us to the characters, each of their stories, and the relationships each character has with one another. It set the overall tone, that this is a murder mystery with twists and turns to come. It established what the show is about. And it had occasional small shocks (I say small because there’s only so much that can be shocking in a pilot when everything is brand new). This was exponentially darker than the PLL pilot and for that I’m so grateful. We are cutting the high school airy-fairy (is that word used outside of Australia?) drama and going straight to scandals and a murder. I’m scared to see the ratings tomorrow because I want it to do well but hey it was trending worldwide on Twitter so that’s a good sign!? The show looks SO promising. I think I’m already in love with the cast. I just want to know more about everything and everyone and omg we are back!
LIVE THOUGHTS:
Love this intro! It sets the scene very well about the whole theme of perfectionism.
WAIT IS DYLAN PLAYING POKERFACE BY LADY GAGA HAHAHAHAHA
Okay sorry but that song ain’t it (“two can keep a secret if one of them is dead”). Why does it sound like an auto tuned choir? I’m happy for change. I actually don’t want the exact same version as the original series. But this one ain’t it. Is it too late to change it???
Wait, why is Alison walking around her new apartment like she’s walking around Jenna’s school for the blind in 710? If she lived 2 years of happiness and freedom of A, there’s no need to be so sceptical of danger every time you walk into a room. Anyway, doesn’t really matter.
Just the backing music throughout the scene is very PLL-esque! Yes, there is such thing as PLL backing music. And this is it.
Mona making a grand entrance!
I feel like Ali’s reaction to seeing Mona was a bit... underwhelming? If they haven’t seen each other in 2 years I expected a bit more of an “OMG”, and a “how did you get in my apartment”, etc. But they go straight to the point and cut the fluff so I don’t mind overall.
Mona recruited Ali. I knew it. And she works at BHU, we already knew that.
Emison is having trust issues. But she wants to do this for the kids. Ok I expected more detail there to satisfy the Emison shippers but whatever, I won’t cry at night.
Ok so Mary and Alex escaped Mona’s “dungeon”. That’s fine by me. Maybe that’ll be the storyline for a PLL movie later, who knows. It’s quite a vague answer but what did we expect... Mona to ADMIT to Ali that she captured her aunt? No. Mona could never explicitly say to Ali what she did. Hence the subtle pause before “... escaped me”. Only us the audience know the true meaning of that and I love how subtle yet meaningful it is.
Why do I feel like this security system is gonna play a massive toll throughout the entire series?
Loved the little Easter egg of seeing Mona, and Mona in the mirror (2 Mona’s). A subtle symbol/reference to her split personality in PLL.
I LOVED the scene of Ali teaching in the classroom! I got How To Get Away With Murder vibes...
Remember when we all thought Taylor’s death would be the main death of the show because of that memorial with her name on it... lol. Okay I’m calling it now... come back to this in the apparently mind blowing season 1 finale... Taylor isn’t really dead WE HAVENT TECHNICALLY SEEN A BODY
Love the complicated friendships going on between Dylan, Nolan, Ava, Caitlin! There’s a lot going on about faking being friends and faking tasks to uphold the image of being perfect. I love this theme and I feel like it’s super relevant to today’s world. Like especially social media. Everyone’s instagrams are always filled of their highs. And they’re mostly edited. No one ever posts/shares their low moments.
So no one knows of Ali’s past. Hmmm. We’ve had this discussion before, I don’t think it’s realistic that no one knows the name Alison DiLaurentis - surely that was on national news when “dead girl isn’t dead anymore” made headlines. But anyway. If they wanna pretend no one watches the news, it wouldn’t be the most unrealistic thing PLL has done.
Is Dylan the gay male character Marlene said she was going to introduce in PLL season 5B? Lmao about time.
WOW that flashback of Caitlin and Nolan just gave me PLL season 1 Alison flashback vibes! Nolan plays the bad manipulative guy so well just like Ali played the bully so well in flashbacks!
Two moms don’t make a right hahahaha who wrote that
Sofia looks FLAWLESS in the pool scene OH MY GODDD. AND her voice is so soothing what the hell
Love how the first scene of Nolan’s mother shows her standing on top of the staircase and the camera panning up. Great directing there. Showing she’ll be like a supreme leader. And then the camera being over her shoulders looking down on Nolan. Again great camera work which conveys the message that she is the boss of this town. I think she’ll be our new Jessica DiLaurentis lol
“I’d like some time for myself” ... “to do what?” OUCH why is that so iconic
Eli is... doing great. He comes across very confident. A star in the making?
Love the cinematography period. And Portland is beautiful!! Better than the Warner Bros lot.
Omg Nolan’s mother gathering “attractive” people for her photo op. Lol, they really are big on presenting a perfect image.
“You saw somebody else” NO CAITLIN, ALISON SAW YOU wow these kids will adamantly lie to uphold perfectionism. I keep saying that but I just love this theme!!!
“I know a little bit about manipulation” hahahahaha Ali
Omg Ali is so good at learning their lies. Of course she is, she’s had years of practice
The woods, Nolan? Nothing good ever happens in the woods.
Lol when Nolan tells Dylan to “kiss me” and Dylan actually contemplates it (and does it). That’s the type of power Nolan has over people.
I love how Ali is trying to help them! I can see a bond eventually forming here.
This scene where Nolan cheats on Ava isn’t shocking since they unfortunately shared it in the promos but hey a douche is a douche.
WHAT THE FUCKITY FUCKING FUCK IT’S TAYLOR WHAT DID I JUST SAY ABOVE
OK I KNOW I GUESSED ALEX DRAKE BUT THIS IS A NEW RECORD FOR FASTEST THEORY TO COME TRUE
Well it wasn’t really a theory I was just joking that she’s not really dead because we didn’t see a body but still do I get a point? Lmao
Nonetheless that shocked me! I love that they’re trying to take down their own family, that’s so dark and it’s only episode 1!
Yes Alison is already getting suspicious. Solve this one please Ali
Sorry I put my phone down during that scene in the woods. I just knew it would be juicy and I wanted to immerse in it properly. I frickin adore this scene. It’s creepy in tone, set in the woods like classic PLL, they’re referring to Ali like a friend and my PLL heart is content, and this is the first time they’re all bonding over one thing: wanting Nolan dead. This is probably my favourite scene in the whole episode.
So I’m guessing the vibes are that they were being recorded in the woods about how they want Nolan to be killed? But didn’t Nolan turn off the security?
Mona gets in her car and chucks a big bag in the back seat. Where was she and what was in the baggggg
Ok that was a bit dramatic Ali (“why am I really here”)
Lol I had to rewatch that for a sec. I thought Ali said “and his dead sister who I just saw pick him up” and I was like wait what Ali knows Taylor’s alive??? No, “dead sister who I just saw a picture of”.
OH MY GOD WHAT A MISSED OPPORTUNITY!!!! THAT SCENE WHERE THE 3 OF THEM ARE WALKING AWAY FROM EACH OTHER... NOLAN’S BODY SHOULD’VE FALLEN TO THE GROUND IN THE MIDDLE OF THEM RIGHT THERE! That would’ve been iconic. Like “oh well we were just kidding about all that, good night xx” then nope bam dead body. But I guess he had to die with poles through his chest as Caitlin said.
Oh Marlene. That’s a LOT of dialogue for a death scene. I hope you can back up and explain what Nolan is talking about before he died. Don’t you dare tell me that was an interpretative dream. Again that’s a lot of dialogue for a death scene. You better know who that killer is Marlene! Don’t make it up the day you write the finale!
I don’t like how we didn’t see Nolan ACTUALLY be killed. They play it safe because they don’t want to show us the killer in action. they basically copied the format of Mona’s “death”. Just change the scene to a flashing ambulance with a lame transition lol.
Another missed opportunity. Mona should’ve said to Ali “they found a body”! That would’ve been iconic in every way possible. First it was Ali’s body now Ali is finding a body and hearing the news and ugh oh well
My god that’s a violent death. And pretty early in the series for a Noel-Khan-level death. Too bad the photos leaked online and we knew that Nolan would not only die, but die like THAT. Those extras/fillers on set really should get charged for having their phones on them and leaking shit. Isn’t there copyright laws or something???? idk
Ummmmmm what? What kind of sci-fi, dollhouse level bullshit is that? That’s kinda over the top. Ehhhh. We’ll see where that goes.
My brain right now instantly got to thinking if Nolan’s murderer will be the “A” of the series or if the killer will just be the main mystery for season 1? Is “who killed Nolan” going to be the overarching story of the entire show or will they answer that sooner rather than later and then start a new mystery? I wonder what the format of this show will be. That’s where my mind is right now as the credits play.
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