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I seriously just want to hug Amber Heard and have coffee with her or something. She needs love more than anybody right now.
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you people are actually sick in the head *edit: actually have worms for brains if you don’t see that this entire trial was a form of revenge and a pr move on depp’s part to globally humiliate his ex-wife with bogus allegations and by forcing her to testify in a televised trial (which depp requested) about her sexual assault.
the man has harassed this woman through the courts for 4 years, and caused her financial difficulties by causing her to spend up to 6 million in legal fees, as well as smearing her reputation so she can hardly ever work again.
that he is demanding money that he knows his ex-wife doesn’t have, is, in fact further financial abuse from a man who would get angry at her for working and who often made her swear to not take movies or meetings while they were together.
*edited b/c it was not my intention to make anyone uncomfortable with the phrasing or imply an actual mental disorder. apologies y’all 💖
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the fact that johnny depp took amber heard to court for defamation because she wrote a op-ed about her experiences with abuse (without even mentioning johnny by name) just screams guilty to me. this on top of all the evidence amber has against him. why do people support him?
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Amber Heard had more evidence supporting her claims than most abuse victims have and yet that jury decided she defamed that man. I'm truly angry and disgusted. This has been a major setback for women and abuse victims.
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PLL ORIGINAL SIN 1x9
& FINALE THOUGHTS
- I’m still confused as to which boy is which. All these boys look the same so the character needs to name them for me to be able to identify them. I think we need more diversity in season 2 with the boys. I can barely tell Henry and Chip apart at this point
- FARRAN YES. I’m loving how she’s embracing her natural hair I’ve been waiting for this moment.
- So Kelly is Kelly which is still surprising to me… I’m still hoping for a twin swap reveal tho, we didn’t get that in the original. But this storyline makes sense with how Tom said he’d rather Kelly died instead of Karen. No wonder she wants to become Karen now. She lived in her twins shadow, her twin seemed to have the better life
- Mouses mom was in a secret relationship with Angela? I didn’t call that but I saw someone on here call that so good spot! So sad that she would deny her relationship with Angela, she must’ve felt so betrayed
- I’m surprised Tom chose to help Imogen, especially considering he blamed the girls for what happened to Karen and wanted to punish them. I guess there’s a small little bit of humanity left in despite the fact that he 100% sucks and I think he assaulted Angela
- Noa <\3. “I don’t need two drug addicts in my life.” I feel for her. She’s had it hard having to cover for her mother and now her boyfriend is going down the same path? :(
- Omg. Omg, this show is doing everything the old one didn’t I mean Tabby’s mother calling out Wes. Wes I’d super creepy. This is exactly how it should’ve went down with Ezra. I hope it’s taken further. He very clearly wants an intimate relationship with Tabby and her mum is right to intervene
- Mouse why are we still hanging out with this guy?!!
- Ooh Tom is a mixture of Wilden and Ezra, I need to see SOMEONE in a Marlene show go down for pedophilia they keep getting away with it
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- I’m loving that we’re getting some Angels backstory. We can see that her mother didn’t want her to go to the party and didn’t approve of her friends. She said something about ‘what happened to you.�� Which leads me to believe the sexual assault happened earlier than we think
- it’s come out that Sherrif Beasley raped Angela, so there’s one thing I was right about and I think I’m right about Chip too.
- I’m loving that it’s evolved. The PLL girls would NEVER confide in their mothers, or go to them for information. These ones are smarter. That’s what we like to see smarter girls, smarter girls that actually want to go to the police (despite the justice system sucking hard).
- Omg. Imogen and Tabby slay confronting Chip. So brave. I couldn’t imagine confronting my assaulter and asking him why. These girls are so brave. Anyways I KNEW it was Chip. “You did hurt me and you hurt Tabby too,” “you were my best friend and you stole from me.” This entire scene is so powerful, I support these girls so much with whatever do with this.
- HOLY FUCK. They had a run in with A, and A didn’t go for them. He ran for Chip. Oh my god. I love this
-OMG. Major doll house vibes when A tries to get them to torment their bully. That was awesome
- Well I did not see the principal coming. A face only a mother could love?… hmm interesting. Perhaps we’ve not met Archie yet
- Disgusting that Tom is smiling about what Kelly knows. He is disgusting.
- I LOVE KELLY
- Oh Imogen, I love that she believes in redemption and people changing, that’s a very refreshing take in a world of cancel culture. My heart just broke for her there and oh what a time for your water to break
- OH MY GOD THIS IS AMAZING. HOW IMOGEN WAS IN LABOUR AND SHE TORE THAT MAN TO SHREDS,
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MY OVERALL REVIEW OF PLL ORIGINAL SIN
I want to begin this post by celebrating the nostalgia of being on Tumblr back when the original show was airing, when I genuinely thought Aria was A and wanted her to be, when I hated Ezra and Ezria with a deep passion, when I was right about Cece Drake. It’s been incredible to come back on here and theorise once again because I forgot just how much I enjoy that. If you’ve been here since the beginning, Thank you.
When I first heard about PLL Original Sin my expectations were extremely low. How could I put myself through another Marlene King show? Even worse, how could I watch something else by the creator of Riverdale. Haven’t I learned?.. I decided to just watch it in satire, fully expecting to hate it as far as reboots usually go. However, those feelings were quickly derailed when introduced to these loveable - bad ass girls. I was instantly attached to Imogen above all. Something about Bailee’s acting just hit the nail on the head for me and there are SO many moments where I wanted to shout GIVE THIS GIRL AN EMMY OR SOMETHING, SOME KIND OF AWARD. She is such an underrated actress who I believe deserves so much MORE praise. She really blew me away this season. I loved her friendship with Tabby and I was silently rooting for them to become more than friends. Although, I’m not disappointed by the lack of sapphic reveal between them. They have such GOOD chemistry and a special bond that’s shared between best friends and that’s good enough for me. So many heartwarming moments between them such as when they share their trauma and figure out that maybe their sexual assaults are connected and then how they come together and confront Chip, that entire scene broke my heart. The way Imogen confesses to being hurt, the way Tabby tells him that she doesn’t feel safe in the world, that he stole from her. This scene was done so beautifully. Although, I was mad that Chip was let out on bail but then that quickly changed when Archie escaped the hospital to possibly murder him. On the topic of Archie, I don’t think we’ve met him yet. Unless, he is Wes. Wes is my only suspect for Archie. If not Wes, we haven’t met Archie yet which I kind of like that concept because it opens the door to Season 2 which HBO needs to green light NOW. My hopes for the potential next season is for us to be revealed Archie, to know more about who he is and why he has “a face only a mother could love.” I want to know what became of Rose Waters, I want to know how the whole Tom and Chip Thing plays out in the end. My head is empty for what mysteries could take place next because I’m still shaking from that incredible episode.
I’d say Marlene learned her lesson. This reveal made so much sense and it left no room for plot holes unlike Charlotte Drake and Alex. The original truly has so many plot holes and I was expecting such a lacklustre reveal for this one but it just MADE SENSE. I’m not questioning anything other than WHAT DOES ARCHIE LOOK LIKE. A revenge plot is very slasher movie style and I love how they weren’t afraid to go there with this show. The old show just wasn’t dark enough until we get to the dollhouse. Can we appreciate the game A set up for them to punish their bullies?! It was very dollhouse era and I was CHEERING.
Ugh, I could’ve done without the Ezra and Aria adopting Imogen’s baby situation. I don’t want to personally hear about them, I’m still mad they got the big wedding and Ezra suffered no consequences for stalking and grooming an underage girl. Tell me about Spencer and Toby or Hanna and Caleb instead. Still, Aria wanted a baby and she deserved to have one, even if it just had to be with Ezra. I got stuck here, that anger just bubbled back to the surface and the potential murder of Chip and Tom having to pay for his crimes really doesn’t make up for that. Another thing I could’ve done without was merging Riverdale and Pretty Little Liars into the same universe typically because Riverdale is a crack dream and I’m 99.9% sure the show runners and writers are on shrooms when they create episodes so let’s not forget this show exists in the same universe as parallel universes, ghosts and witchcraft. And somehow our world is also connected to this - a comment made about Cole Sprouse. Blissfully, I’m going to ignore this and treat it as a throw in for the Riverdale fans.
I saw a few people not liking the teen pregnancy storyline for Imogen and I typically don’t care for that trope as a whole because all my favourite shows seem to do it and it’s just not interesting to me personally. However, the way it was done just made sense. Imogen took risks and put herself under severe stress because she was raped and she’d also lost her mother in that small space of time. It wouldn’t be uncommon for her to not show that she cares about herself (that’s that on trauma). Did the pregnancy add anything to the over all show? Not really. But am I mad about the storyline and the way it was executed? Not at all. In fact, she was so BAD ASS in the fight to the death scene with Archie, the way he lifts her up and strangled her and she kicks him. She truly floored him while in labour with her baby. We need to just rave about that scene in general, it was very old horror movie. I love how they showed the accuracy of human survival in a very Laurie/Sidney way, the body can endure all of that and the person will get up again and again to fight for survival. I personally enjoy that in horror movies.
Let’s cover my recent theories and what I was right about this time around. I speculated that Kelly and Karen did an early twin swap and that the born Karen was murdered and Kelly took her name back. The twin swap did not play out, Kelly is Kelly. In theory, this all made much more sense with a Cassie and Lexi sister shadow concept. We can see that Tom favoured Karen and even went as far to say that he would rather Karen was alive instead if it had to be one of them. Everyone seemed to favour Karen from the dance teacher, to her parents to the kids at school. It’s no wonder Kelly tried to fill her shoes when she died while being in pain that she lost her twin sister. I speculated that Chip was the one who raped both Tabby and Imogen. He was too nice in the beginning until his character started to become creepy and give off incel vibes. That’s when I was like, girls stop looking at the football team and look to the ‘nice guy.’ you trusted. This was such a powerful scene, the courage Tabby and Imogen had to confront him and ask him why he betrayed them like that. It was beautiful and we got to see A’s motives clearly when he spared them and ran after Chip. So let’s talk about A and his motives and Angela Waters.
I speculated that Wes was Angela’s brother who was doing all the heavy work to get revenge for his sisters suicide. I thought that his intentions were purely to avenge Angela and hurt all the people who hurt her. I couldn’t think of anything that the mums could’ve done past generally being awful friends to Angela that we can see in their treatment of her (I.e the Halloween thing, the drugs thing). And I thought she was raped by Tom and then gave birth to his baby before the Y2K party and that baby was Chip who did the A work, the brains of the operation. We now know that Tom did in fact rape Angela but she wasn’t pregnant with his baby. Her high emotions at the Y2K party were a byproduct of the bullying from the moms of which was the result of Angela’s rape confession. It broke my heart the way these girls got an entire school to ghost another student, one who is supposed to be their friend, to make her feel invisible. That would drive anyone crazy. My heart broke for Angela that night. We also found out that Principal Clayton is the brains behind A and Angela’s father and that she has a secret brother called Archie who we don’t get to see (‘a face only a mother could love.’). They were both avenging the daughter/sister they lost and taking it upon themselves to punish bullies (which the moms were). This entire reveals leaves no room for plot holes, it just makes sense. I didn’t see the Angela and Mouse’s mom relationship coming, but I suppose it makes sense why she goes to the group for missing kids. She’s projecting her guilt into a bigger cause. I love that Imogen could acknowledge the mother who bullied and drove Angela to suicide and her own image of who her mother became. In this cancel culture society (of which I don’t take part in) it’s refreshing to see a young person being able to see the duality of a human being, being able to know that her mother was an awful teenager but she was also a loving mother and still choosing to love her and miss her.
Now let’s talk about the parallels. First of all, Archie is a very Mona type A. His motive aligns with the Mona terminology. Mona walked so Archie could run with a knife. Of course the brilliantly done party scenes where someone dies (I.e Angela’s suicide and Karen’s’ murder). Angela going down for Noa’s moms drugs and Noa going down for her mothers drugs. Tom raping Angela and Chip raping Tabby and Imogen. Twin jealousy (Spencer and Alex, Karen and Kelly). Secret sibling who torments the girls (Charlotte and Archie).
Now let’s talk about the casting and diversity. The casting is absolutely perfect because out of our main girls only one of them is white. PLL was a very white centric show and most of the POC characters were killed off. Whereas in this one, we haven’t yet had a POC death and we have multiple characters. I will say, there wasn’t enough LGBTQ+ like sure we have Mouse’s mothers and we later find out that Angela also lands on that spectrum but that’s not obvious, it wasn’t obvious to me that she was in a secret relationship. In the original we had Emily and Alison, Maya and Emily.. Emily and more girls. Why couldn’t one of the main girls be bi or lesbian? My money was on Tabby and I hope they explore that in season 2.
Karen was such a lacklustre mean girl. She wouldn’t survive in a room with Alison and Mona. Even the mums were more convincing mean girls than Karen. Twins are hard to do well, and I don’t think the actress was the best at it in comparison to Lindsey Lohan in the parent trap (But tbh Troian was worse at it). That was until her scenes in the final episodes. I loved Kelly in the end.Maia (Noa) gave me such Hailey Kiyiko acting vibes which I loved. I wasn’t fully convinced by Mouses’s actress in the beginning. And of course our queen, the standing ovation goes to Miss Bailee Madison. She was truly the stand out for me and reminds me of a young Drew Barrymore. I need more things with Bailee in. Everything she’s done, she’s done it well, even as a child.
Overall, I loved the show and found it very bingeable. I look forward to a possible second season. Although, I don’t know what other direction this could go other than Archie’s face reveal.
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I will die if this is linked to Bethany Young. I’m over it lmao
Crazy PLL Original Sin Theory #2
So, one of my biggest questions going into this show was how they were going to explain this villain going be "A". Like, it's not as if Millwood is on the complete other side of the country. It's literally 30 minutes down the road from Rosewood. Yes, I understand it's probably supposed to stand for Angela. But, you expect me to believe that not a single person will think it's strange that when this all comes out into the open that this Masked Man who has been terrorizing this young group of girls is using the same exact moniker as hooded/coated/uber variety from down the road, that no one is going to find that strange?
So. I wanted there to be some type of explanation, though I didn't want to get my hopes up.
Angela Water's mom, Rose was in Radley Sanitorium from very early 2000 to when it closed down (around 2012) before being released. Girl was there for the entire saga: Cece/Charles, Bethany Young, Marion Cavenaugh's death, the 10,000 breakouts, Jessica DiLaurentis's visits, Mona's stay after the first "A" reveal, Spencer's psychotic break after Toby's supposed death, Aria's stint as a candy striper, Mona going back after confessing to shooting Wilden.
Goodness.
If she's still alive and well, she literally got an entire play by play on masterpiecing gaslighting, gatekeeping and girlbossing from the queen of the alphabet herself, Mona Vanderwaal. I wouldn't be displeased if this was how they chose to explain this part of the story.
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'Minnie Mouse is the Mastermind Theory '
This crazy theory has been stirring around in my mind .. so we know so far this show loves referencing movies and playing homage to a lot of them so what if they decided to do an orphan twist and by that I'm talking about the Movie Orphan ,now if any one has seen that movie you know in that movie the girl being the orphan is actually a grown woman who looks like a kid.. So my theory is what if Mouse is actually much older than she really is but looks like a teenager .. who actually was the girlfriend of Angela Waters and is now going back to Millwood to get revenge on the mothers /daughters but the one doing the killing is her true love Angela Waters .. this dynamic duo could be revealed as the A team ... now to make this theory work , the moms probably knew Angela liked girls but never met the girl Angela was dating .. I mean it would be an awesome twist !!!! what do you guys think ???
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I am going to ignore pll original sin being in the same universe as riverdale just like I ignored ravenswood
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idk what was worse: ezra's books jumpscare or riverdale jumpscare
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the new pretty little liars reboot just canonized riverdale into the show's universe and it is so absolutely batshit and hilarious. In the same episode they compared a character to Cole Sprouse which means in the universe of the original PLL both Jughead and Cole Sprouse exists. Also, Aria and Katy Keene both exist despite both characters being played by Lucy Hale. Ravenswood already made ghosts canon in PLL but now theres also canonical witchcraft, multiple dimensions, heaven and hell both exist, two different versions of the devil, and archangels. Never in a million years could Sara Sheppard have anticipated this when she was writing her books.
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My Maybe Final Theory
My theory includes two masked killers and one mastermind (youngest)
In 1999 before the Y2K party, Angela gives birth to her baby boy, Chip. In distress she dumps her baby and runs off to the party begging for help. Nobody will listen to her and so she climbs up to get everyone’s attention. She is then murdered by Crazy Joe who was desperately in love (obsessed) with her. The baby’s father is Sherriff Beasley. Sherif Beasley has three children, the twins (Karen and Kelly) and a son he doesn’t yet know about, Chip. I also believe that he is related to the Dilaurentis family hence Alison’s horror story in the first secret. It’s a story that was modified by her mother with a twist.
Karen and Kelly always had a strong bond, but at times it got quite sinister. See, In Alison’s story these two twins were arguing over their dolls, a regular occurrence until one of them kills the other. Alison has been told this version events, but the real events?… Kelly and Karen are playing with their dolls until they get into a heated fight. Kelly injured herself on purpose and blames Karen claiming that her twin had tried to murder her. As a result of this, Karen is sent to Radley. Only, this little stunt backfires on Kelly and she is sent to Radley but under Karen’s identity. Whilst in Radley, Kelly (but known as Karen) befriends a young boy called Chip. They each share their family trauma stories and create a bond, only this is a bond that isn’t shown to everyone else, outside of Radley, they don’t seem to interact. Inside Radley, they spend years hatching a plan of revenge. Chip wants to avenge his mother and Kelly wants to take back her place. A few years later, Chip meets his uncle Wes, Angela’s brother and he convinces him to be part of the plan. Chip is the brains of the operation and Wes does all the heavy work.
A few months before Spirit week, Imogen and Tabby are raped by Chip at a party. Imogen much like Chip’s mother is now carrying her rapists baby but the two girls are unaware of his identity as their rapists. Months later, the plan is set in motion and Kelly is ready to take back her identity, Chip and Wes are ready to get their revenge for the loss of Angela. Kelly sets it all up so that her sister has the job of pouring pigs blood on Imogen where her own relation that is unknown to her, Wes is waiting masked ready to kill her. This plan then benefits the full party, Chip and Wes are able to terrify the girls, whilst Kelly is now rid of her twin and able to take back her real identity.
(side note: Each of the girls paid a visit to Mrs Waters at Radley, each them using ‘A Waters. The secret person using that identity is her son Wes)
Now, i believe that Sherrif Beasley will be killed by his son, Chip in the final episode where he will reveal himself and in that same episode, Kelly will reveal herself as the real Kelly. I also believe that Henry has his own suspicions about Kelly and he was the one who chased her and she was screaming that she is Kelly, because she is in fact Kelly, just not the Kelly he thought he knew.
I saw someone say that Imogen will give her baby to Aria and Ezra and there’s an interview where Lucy Hale says she may have a cameo. So, Imogen survives, has her baby and gives it to Aria.
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I didn’t mean to say Tyler. My money is on chip and I also believe that A and mask are different people now
PLL ORIGINAL SIN THEORY
(EP 7 & PILOT)
I believe I’m onto something, after watching episode 7 and hearing from Eddie that Angela was raped before she ‘committed suicide’ I went back and watched the opening scene. We can see that Angela is in clear distress asking, no begging people to see her, to help her. What if the rape had happened 9 months before and she had just given birth to her baby? In this theory I believe that the person who raped her, and the father of the baby is Karen and Kelly’s father. So, A is Angela and ?? (whatever his name is) son. Her son is trying to avenge his mother, the mother he never got to meet. And what if the son Chip or Tyler?
Now this then makes sense why he would kill”Karen.” and turn on Kelly.
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PLL ORIGINAL SIN THEORY
(EP 7 & PILOT)
I believe I’m onto something, after watching episode 7 and hearing from Eddie that Angela was raped before she ‘committed suicide’ I went back and watched the opening scene. We can see that Angela is in clear distress asking, no begging people to see her, to help her. What if the rape had happened 9 months before and she had just given birth to her baby? In this theory I believe that the person who raped her, and the father of the baby is Karen and Kelly’s father. So, A is Angela and ?? (whatever his name is) son. Her son is trying to avenge his mother, the mother he never got to meet. And what if the son Chip or Tyler?
Now this then makes sense why he would kill”Karen.” and turn on Kelly.
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the guy who likes Tabby is so nice it’s SUS my eyes are on you mister
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PLL ORIGINAL SIN THEORY (I’m on ep4)
- Karen isn’t dead, Kelly is and Karen is pretending to be Kelly that much is extremely obvious but what if like in the PLL books, the switch happened long before?
If you’ve seen the original PLL, Alison tells a horror story in the first secret about two twins who get into a fight over dolls and one of the twins kills the other. We later see that dead twin in Ashley’s house many seasons later and she recalls calling her mother who is crying. She tells Ashley about how she and her twin would fight over dolls and that she was afraid her sister had lied to her mother of which would make her mad.
Let’s say that’s the version of events Alison told was a reimagining and Kelly and Karen are the twins. One day they’re playing with their dolls and get into an altercation and Kelly gets Karen in trouble and sent to Radley, but it backfires, Kelly is sent (as Karen) instead. She knows the killer, she plots the murder so she can be Kelly agian. We are actually seeing the real Kelly now alive, only on the show it looks like Karen is pretending to be Kelly.
Alternative theory: I think this one’s less likely, but let’s say the same principle only with amnesia and Kelly gets her memory back and plots this revenge against her sister. Again, she reclaims her identity
As for the identity of our killer; it’s got to be someone related to Angela
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