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Jason Todd Meta Masterlist
With all the misconceptions and (frankly insulting and at times sexist) assumptions I've seen about Jason Todd fans, I've decided to make a post gathering the meta I could find that helps make sense of why he's my (and so many other people's) favourite character. (Spoiler: it's not because I'm shallow, it's not because he's hot, not because I love guns and the death penalty, and not because I think he's secretly a woman.) This list is incomplete for a bunch of reasons: I haven't read all the meta that exists, if there's a good meta with like one sentence I disagree with I usually don't include the meta, there's a lot of meta I disagree with, and if there's a very good meta analysing dynamics or characters based on a comic I really hate, I will simply not include it (for example i've seen good analysis of Nightwing Brothers in Blood, unfortunately it's one of the worst comics i've ever tried to force myself to read so I can't include any of it in Jason analysis without betraying a fundamental part of myself). This will include some serious analysis commentary, some lighter/trivia stuff, and there's also a part dedicated to some misconceptions I've seen running around and posts that address it. Some of this is jaybin analysis/appreciation, some of this is red hood analysis/appreciation, some of it fits for both, and there's nuance here due to the fact I'm very critical about many parts of red hood's writing, so some jaybin posts might be red hood critical, but they're still parts of the reasons why I like jason so I'm including them. If you have suggestions for more meta posts to add, feel free to share them, though be warned that I may not be able to edit and include them all due to reasons previously mentioned! (And do not be afraid to share your own meta we love self-promo in here).
With all that said:
if you're a Jason fan looking for more meta, a comic fan who doesn't understand the hype and is genuinely wondering what people see in him, a fic writer determined to do his character justice, or new to fandom and wondering if it's worth it getting into him, this post is for you! And of course if you don't like him I'm not arrogant enough to assume I can change your mind, you're perfectly allowed your taste, all that I ask in return is that you do not try to police mine.
Now let's get to it!
Mental illness
So, this meta is kinda organized by how important those points are to me, and it turns out I'm a complete freak about psychopatholgy (the study of mental disorders). Now, is Jason a good depiction of mental illness? Eeeeeh... Compared to my other favs with stories building up around trauma like Mia Dearden or Jill Carlyle, he has a lot more material to sink our teeth into due to sheer number of appearances, and there's loads of interesting stuff in that, but he also often falls victim to dc's classic love for demonising metal illness. So what makes Jason's mental illness compelling to me, someone who loathes the Joker's character so much? That's a complicated question I attempt to answer in here. Now this is an ongoing compilation of different psychological analysis meta (we're playing meta masterpost matryoshka!! Yay!) and doesn't have all the answers yet because I need time to write this shit but anyway, if anything, it's a good opportunity to learn about psychology through Jason, and I think how much I love sinking my teeth into those depictions already shines into it. So basically: The depiction of Jason's mental illness, despite often very flawed, is extremely compelling to me.
On victimhood
Now say it with me: you can like several things at once. Jason's character isn't the only one who is a victim, and he isn't the only one where victimhood features as an important theme, and none of that diminishes the fact that the way victimhood is portrayed and handled in Jason's story is compelling both for its meta commentary on the narrative and the catharsis it can bring. Here are some meta that analyse Jason's character in relation to victimhood:
-Jason and Joker's other victims
-How Jason's story resonates with victims of SA
-Jason and childhood sexual abuse
-How Jason is blamed for his death
-Jason's UTH monologue is sincere, and he has a right to his anger
-Jason's point isn't about the villains, it's about the victims
-Victimhood VS Survival
Philosophy
Now when it comes to this section, a lot of people associate ethics (for instance what Jason considers right and wrong) and politics (what solutions/actions he thinks should be taken as a result of those ethical beliefs). Of course that makes sense with the way those concepts intertwine, but they're not the same question (crucially, you can agree with his position on one without agreeing on the other) so I've tried to separate the posts into those two categories the best I can.
Ethics
I couldn't find a jaybin post that was only on ethics (though the political jaybin posts cover it a little) but some of my favourite stuff about Jason is the discussion of ethics. Honestly I consider it much more enjoyable than the political part of the discussion, it has my preference for sure.
On love and Red Hood
A reading of UTH as an invitation to incorporate emotions into our ethics
Pragmatics vs sanctity? Jason does value human life
Politics
I'm subdivising this one again because Jaybin and Red Hood wouldn't agree on everything here (I don't think the gap is irreconcilable, but it would require writers to put effort into bridging it which I never see dc do, at least not correctly.)
AS JAYBIN
Ethics, crime, grief and vigilantism
A philosophy of love and care
AS RED HOOD
Does Red Hood valorize organised crime?
Red Hood is a pimp (no, wait, listen)
On the death penalty
Jason's political thesis in UTH: you cannot rule through fear alone
Jason's point isn't about the villains, it's about the victims (yes, this one is here twice because it fits into both categories what do you want me to say)
Symbolism
You know I love me a character with some cool symbolism. I only got two posts on the matter so far but if anyone has articulate meta posts about Jason wrt Paradise Lost, Abraham and Isaac, Orpheus and Euridyce or literally anything else please share it I would love that so much I have so many thoughts about it but not all of them have a meta that develops them. Anyway here's another reason to like Jason Todd: he's got a lot of symbolism to sink your teeth into.
My thoughts on catholic Jason Todd
Jason Todd VS The Bible
Jason & Isaac
Abilities and skills
Now a lot of that was about what makes Jason interesting to me but one thing Jason is that he's also extremely fun. He's just all around an enjoyable character! To me his #1 best fun trait is how witty/funny he is, both as Jaybin and Winick's Red Hood, which is a shame because I don't have a post gathering panels of how funny he is (if anyone has one please feel free to share!). But his #2 best fun trait, to me, is that he's a hyper-competent jack-of-all-trades. And I don't mean a gary-stue! He's probably not one of the world's best at most of those things, but he's pretty good at a whole bunch of things and he's also very resourceful and underhanded, making for great battle scenes because it's always fun to watch pull tricks out of his sleeve! This is especially true for his villain era, because while hyper-competent heroes can become annoying, I find hyper-competent villains/antagonists super exciting. So here are just a tiny tidbit of metas I could find about some of his skills!
"The dumb Robin"
Jaybin is a skilled hacker!
Languages
Marksmanship (amongst other skills)
Jason and Bruce
Warning: if you're here it means you haven't blocked the anti batman tags but like, this isn't a super Batman-friendly blog. The meta in this part doesn't exactly hold Bruce in high regards so like, if you're a fan of him like, be aware of that.
With that being said, I find Jason's story, and the criticism of Bruce/Batman that ties into it, very interesting. I also am personally drawn towards stories around child abuse for cathartic reasons, and DC, albeit unintentionally, draws a very realistic depiction of abusive families within the batfam, which I also find really compelling. So here's a bunch of meta about Jason and Bruce and utter misery! Parenting tip: don't do that.
-Jaybin era Bruce was far from perfect
-Bruce projects on jaybin
-Parentification
-Analysis of Jason's grave
-Can you believe Bruce yellow-wallpapered Jason?
-Jason as a meta character
-Jason's isolation wrt his relationship with Bruce
Jason and Mia
-Green Arrow: Seeing Red makes a great point about victim-blaming
-On defense of jaymia : So, this one requires some explanation. It's kinda funny to include this in a meta masterpost/character manifesto since 1) the ship is not canon and 2) i do not ship nor particularly like the ship (no offence to those who do!). However, a lot is said about these two characters, and as a fan of both characters I have a lot of thoughts and feelings on the matter, and I believe this post is a good breakdown of some conceptions and views wrt these two characters, even outside of the shipping length. I have more analysis about Seeing Red in the works, but it's bound to take a long time to happen!
Some other misconceptions I found interesting to mention
-Jason isn't a loner
-A quick forray into pre-crisis: Jason and Dick's backstories were similar, but they had their fair share of differences! They're far from the same character.
Trivia
And finally, as a palate cleanser after all that stuff, some trivia for your writer's needs.
Jason's taste in food and drinks
Jason's music taste
Books Jason Todd has read
Anyway, shout-out to all these amazing people for all that meta, and please note that just because I included one of their post in my meta and character manifesto doesn't mean they have to agree with everything I said (should be evident but like, just in case. Leave those people alone if your issue is with me.)
I'm leaving you with these comic recs from laufire!
Hope you enjoy ✨✨
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i've been thinking about this for a while, and i wanted to write about it, soooo:
a quick little essay on the two mitsuba variations, 三葉 and ミツバ, and why they aren't as seperate as some may think!

let's gooooo!!! (・∀・)
i've noticed that in the fandom, some people tend to fall into two camps regarding the two different versions of mitsuba: either they don't recognize the differences at all and mix up the two's traits, or they go the extreme route of believing that the two mitsubas are completely different characters who can't be regarded as one character no matter what. personally, i think both of these are wrong, but in different ways, and i want to share my opinion!!
personally, i view sousuke mitsuba & no.3tsuba (the term i use for the supernatural version) as two different entities, but not two different characters, with both of them being two sides of the same character arc coin, if you will. they are fundamentally different in terms of physical circumstance, with sousuke living and dying as a human and no.3tsuba being entirely supernatural, but the core character motivations and personality within the two are the same. after all, no.3tsuba was made with sousuke's soul!!


the main motivation for mitsuba as a character is the fact that he's lonely and wants friends and a place to belong. this carries over between both incarnations of him, with sousuke being the set-up for no.3tsuba's arc and no.3tsuba being an extension of sousuke's arc. you can't have sousuke without no.3tsuba, and you can't have no.3tsuba without sousuke. fundamentally, they share the same struggles, motivations, and flaws, making them function as one character with one shared character arc who simply has two different incarnations/variations of himself!
(example below)

i think it's now also worth going over mitsuba in the new timeline, and the dreams that he has of the old timeline. instead of just one version of mitsuba being present in his memories, both of them are, sousuke *and* no.3tsuba!! and he regards them both as himself, "the me who's dead" and "the me who became a supernatural." they're both treated as equally mitsuba, both just being different parts/versions of him. and if the mitsuba in this timeline is sousuke, and they're supposed to be two completely different people, then why would he have no.3tsuba's memories? to me, this is because they share the same soul, with no.3tsuba inherently being an extension of sousuke mitsuba and his mind. if aidairo regarded them as completely different like so many fans try to insist, i don't think they would have made such a strong connection between the two.


another thing i want to mention is the alternate universes!! within the alternate universes for jshk, mitsuba is always one character, not two, which becomes interesting when you consider that in the alternate universes, mei shijima & no. 4 are always portrayed as seperate people. so, if sousuke and no.3tsuba really were different people like so many fans insist, wouldn't aidairo do the same for mitsuba? so, considering this context, it seems aidairo themselves regard mitsuba & his different versions as one character, instead of two different people like they do for mei shijima & no. 4
(side note: this point was specifically brought to my attention by my beloved mutual @musicalmoritz!! thank you, roxy)
so, in conclusion: despite the different physical circumstances surrounding these two versions of mitsuba, they still share the same soul at their core and are simply two sides of the same coin, that coin being mitsuba as a whole. thank you for listening to my special interest fueled ramblings!!
#ocelotrambles#tbhk#mitsuba#jshk#mitsuba sousuke#sousuke mitsuba#tbhk analysis#jshk analysis#toilet bound hanako kun#jibaku shounen hanako kun
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Give Karlach Character Flaws
My problem with how most fics write Karlach, especially when she isn't a major player, is that it seems as if she's never allowed to be selfish. She's always there to be big Mama K, ready to support and tank damage for everyone else, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have any self-interest at all. While I enjoy reading about her forcing Tav to confront their feelings and whatnot, I also want her dragging Tav along to some romp to distract them from dealing with the more difficult emotions because honestly, that's what Karlach does herself.
The very fact that she refuses to go back to Avernus, even for a short while, shows she would rather not face her fears than prevent her friends' grief. In this instance, her terror at confronting her situation trumps the care and concern she has for her friends. You can argue that she has the same attitude when you ask her about the Soul Coins. "There's no saving them and planning long-term, so we might as well use them for instant gratification and a momentary boost." She would rather not think about things than fix them. She's the "this is fine" dog.
If we go back to her time as Gortash's bodyguard, we can see this as well. Gortash built his fortune and reputation through arms dealing (and slaving), so it's hard to believe Karlach thought she was protecting an innocent guy who would never hurt anyone. We know she's insightful and not at all dumb. She most likely knew his business was shady, but choose to keep taking his coin because she was young, orphaned, and needed the money. The players never think about her complicity in any of his crimes because that would mar our image of her as a self-sacrificing precious cinnamon roll. There had to have been smoke everywhere and she went "this is fine" until she got consumed by the flames and couldn't escape.
I still think Karlach is ultimately a good person. My point here is that for a barbarian who's supposed to charge headlong into their problems, she is extremely avoidant and that part of her personality seems to be largely glossed over. It's defeatist and cowardly to accept death when there are clearly ways she could keep living. I would have liked Karlach's story to have emphasized that, making it clearer to the player that sometimes we do have to make that choice to go back into the Hell that traumatized us if we want to fully live our lives, because avoiding it and letting yourself explode means the devil wins.
I don't blame her for not wanting to. It's a very scary thing to do, and my primary coping mechanisms are all avoidant as well. But I hate how characters have dialogue in-game about how Karlach's so brave to face her death when the real radical act of courage would have been fighting to live.
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A big part of the fandom doesn't deserve to have Percy as a protagonist because of how they treat him and mischaracterize them to make their own favorite characters "better", more sympathetic or more tragic. Can they stop blaming Percy for Bianca's death? No offense to her stans but what was Percy to do when SHE was the one who stole from a fucking junkyard where they were specifically warned not to touch/take anything? Plus isn't she the one who basically abandoned her brother and joined the Huntresses? Can they stop acting as if Percy is stupid when he is actually better at coming up with strategies where no one gets hurts or killed *cough*unlike a certain blonde*cough*? Can they stop excusing Annabeth for being such a shitty person to Percy and anyone interested in him romantically or platonically? Can they fucking understand that her "cute nickname" to her boyfriend "Seaweed brain" is actually an insult and not a cutesy little token of love? Can they understand that judo flipping him, punching/hitting/etc him and liking to make him anxious is what typical toxic and abusive partners do? I don't care that she was abused and neglected as a child, having been abused is an explanation never an excuse. Percy was also abused by his stepdad and yet he doesn't act like her. Also another thing (and this one might be heavily controversial but) Sally Jackson is a loving mom, she tried her best for her kid but she is not a good mom, she was selfish in her love and got herself and her kid stuck with an abusive bastard for years despite the fact that she had safer options. At this point I feel like we didn't even read the same books or that these people didn't even read the series they just watch youtube and tiktok videos that are mostly filled with misinformation and headcanons.
I know I am extremely late in my response but hopefully not 'late to your own funeral' level of late. It was partly due to health problems and back to back exams I had and partly due to my procrastination habits. Which is why now that I am considerably free, I am trying to answer all the asks in my inbox.
I absolutely agree with most of the things you have said. I myself am extremely tired of repeating the same things over and over again to the fandom but I am under no delusions that any posts debunking biased takes, character assassination headcanons and absolutely baseless assumptions will actually stop anything or even change anyone's opinions.
These posts are just for people with similar mindset to interact with something that finally meets with their pov and aren't led to feeling isolated in the fandom due to monopoly canon ships and other such topics have in fandom posts. Sort of to create a safe space cause I myself was spared of the worst of the fandom's wrath due to there already being an established anti percabeth community, small but reliable and supportive. I even had to the fortune of never receiving a single death threat, at least in this fandom, and I want to make sure that any new mutuals I have get the same experience.
For the whole Percy being blamed for no absolute reason and for completely made-up reasons for the Nico-Bianca situation, I have already made a post here.
Percy being more strategic than Annabeth was something I have stated in multiple posts but mostly here. And Rick himself did give us proof, too, both about Percy getting better grades than Annabeth and how Seaweed brain is, in fact, an insult.
I really believe that Percy and Annabeth's lack of nuanced emotional interactions, contrasting goals, and really conflicting fatal flaws all make up for a doomed relationship scenario. Percy finds himself unable to share about any of his trauma with Annabeth, and he also seems very insecure about their relationship and believes he can't live up to Annabeth's expectations or is being a bad boyfriend. Annabeth doesn't seem to be able to pick up on any of this, and without proper conversation, they are both chafing. Not to mention, Annabeth's toxic habits are not something Percy will ever address, and eventually, they will both just end up resenting each other. I had an idea about Percabeth break up and why and how it would occur, and I have posted about it here, and that's all I really want to say on that matter.
As for the Sally Jackson bit, I am actually planning on a Sally centric post. I have read so many takes on her and Percy's relationship and I am in the process of making it. Will definitely tag you in that.
Though what I will say is that, while Sally's love for Percy was very selfish, I think it was realistically rooted in her own trauma, the two way abandonment issues between both her and Percy and a mother's desperation.
Because for all the trauma Percy suffered under Gabe, you have to remember Sally suffered twice as much. She sent Percy off to boarding schools to spare him most of Gabe's influence while she suffered both physical and mental abuse throughout the six years she was with Gabe. The fact that Sally was willing put herself and Percy through the trauma of Gabe's abuse should highlight just how desperate she was to keep Percy with herself. And how despite all of Gabe's abuse he would face at home if he stayed, Percy resented Sally for sending him away to boarding school.
There's such an intricate codependency and deep-rooted trauma, maybe even generational trauma there. I really want to explore all of that cause I think Sally had very simple motivations and put herself and Percy through such complex methods to try and achieve those motivations permanently.
So yeah, there will be a post on that soon. I will tag you in that one, and there's another one I have to get to just before that. It's a Frank and Percy centric post, and I really loved that idea and I think I have most of my thoughts ready for both these posts. So expect them by the end of the week for sure.
#the cycle of abuse in the Jackson household is very unique#in the sense that it is almost a conscious choice made by the abused parties at certain points#to avoid certain other alternatives#percy jackson#sally jackson#percy jackson character analysis#percy and sally#percy jackson and the olympians#pjo#hoo#gabe ugliano#jackson family#nico di angelo#bianca di angelo#annabeth chase crit#anti percabeth#smart percy jackson#school smart percy jackson
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Creepypasta/MH - What Their Love Is Like
Characters: Jeff the Killer, Eyeless Jack, Brian/Hoody, Tim/Masky, Nina the Killer
Jeff the Killer
Obsession
He’s extremely obsessed with himself, especially his appearance, so I imagine his love would merely be an extension of that
In his eyes, his lover is perfect, from their appearance to every little thing they do
They can do no wrong, and he completely overlooks their flaws
If anything, he doesn’t even see them as flaws
Just more reasons that the person is perfect
That being said, his love is probably pretty suffocating
Physical and verbal affection are his go-to, as well as spoiling them with gifts
The former two he expresses in random mushy gushes
The latter will occur randomly, just whenever he spots something he think they’d like
He’s either fawning over them or raging at them in a characteristic outburst of blind anger
Either way, the emotions are intense
“Chill” moments are rare with him, and they consist of him being burnt out/too tired to feel anything
He probably doesn’t even acknowledge his lover when this happens
They might take advantage of this, using the opportunity to bask peacefully in his presence without having his full attention on them
In short, he’s an extreme ride-or-die lover who pours every ounce of energy and attention over his love
Eyeless Jack
A quiet, curious love
I imagine he’d meet his lover when they lock gazes randomly
They stare for a long time, silently becoming fascinated with the other
Not physically/romantically attracted or anything, just strangely drawn to each other
From there the relationship progresses by one of them (alternatively) making a subtle move as feelings of romance sprout bizarrely from concrete like a dandelion
Standing closer, exchanging names, brushing hands, a peck on the lips, all over a very long period of time
He doesn’t talk much, but somehow always finds himself around this person
This is partly because he’s wary around them; he doesn’t fully trust himself not to attack them
But there’s something magnetic about the relationship, and he can’t stop it (and though he won’t admit/realize it, he doesn’t want to)
The relationship never stops deepening: the love grows stronger every day, new boundaries are explored, relationship milestones like moving in together are reached
But there’s still that mysterious barrier that prevents them from talking too much
Are they afraid to expose themselves? Is the silence too comforting? Who can tell…
Whether they break the wall down or not, their strong and obscure attraction will hold them together for a long time
Brian/Hoody
Infatuation
He would’ve noticed them first
Interest piqued, he’d try to speak with them
He’d advance the relationship quickly, but not in the way you’d expect
Instead of asking to hang out often, he spends perhaps a little too much time investigating them
Talking to their friends, looking up their name online, scrolling through their social media…
He knows everything about them before they tell him themselves
Still, he likes to hear them talk about themselves; that just means he gets to cross-check his information
Of course, he’d never let on that he knows more than they believe
When the relationship really starts to get intimate, he’d ramp up the “investigating”
He’s a little obsessed with knowing everything about them
He does it because he can’t stand wondering about them
What are they up to? Well, go see for yourself.
Over time he’d probably let up a little, especially if/when his lover starts to catch on
He’d get a little more comfortable with simply asking them the things he feels the need to know
It will get overwhelming, but it’s just part of the package with him
He probably won’t return the favor; if his lover asks him something in return, he’ll be extremely vague
In that respect the relationship would be a little one-sided; he knows everything, they know only a little
Tim/Masky
Bitter
He’s got problems. He knows that. They know that. They both just have to deal with it
Anyone who’s stubborn enough to stick by him simultaneously scares him and makes his heart flutter
He’s been hurt a lot in his life, he doesn’t want the same to happen to them
Plus he doesn’t have a lot of emotional energy/affection in him
So he keeps himself distant, often to a neglectful extent
The only thing that’d make them stay would be the sporadic shows of affection
They’re small, few, and very far between
A pat on the head, a mumbled compliment, locking pinkies for a moment, draping his arm across them in bed, tiny things like that
He’d get flustered easily by any show of affection towards himself
He’d feel overwhelmed by frequent displays, so his lover would have to be strategic in planning when to act
Honestly it’d be like they weren’t even dating
But then someone would see them share a lingering glance, or sit silently together in the rain, and they’d start to wonder
Speaking of, most of the pair’s time together would be like that; just sitting silently, not talking, not touching, not even acknowledging the other
Smoking on the balcony late at night or early in the morning, standing in the rain while they wait for a bus, eating sandwiches in a diner, solemn-faced and unspeaking all the while
The relationship would be held together by a very long and thin string, but it would be strong as steel so long as they both remained stubborn
Nina the Killer
Magical
She’s like an enchantress: absolutely captivating, but still with a dangerous air about her
She would show her love unapologetically to the one she deemed worthy of it
She’s a pretty affectionate person when it comes to her loved ones
Physical affection, verbal affection, hand-made gifts, helping them out, exciting and romantic dates, taking pictures together, the whole nine yards
This being said, her craziness does almost always shine through
There’s just something so subtly off about the things she���ll say, or the things she’ll do
A splotch of blood on a gift, a comment that might be a threat from anyone other than her, just little things that catch one’s attention every now and again
If you bring it up, she’ll share the truth openly
She’d have to have picked someone she trusts fully, so transparency is never a problem when they have concerns
Even if she’s sharing something disturbing or distressing, she’ll tell it in full
She’d expect her lover to do the same, and would help coach them if they didn’t
The relationship would not last if they resisted; she knows what she wants and what she deserves
Thanks for reading!! Take care sweeties <33
#creepypasta#creepypasta x reader#creepypasta headcanons#marble hornets#marble hornets x reader#jeff the killer#jeff the killer x reader#eyeless jack#eyeless jack x reader#brian thomas#brian thomas x reader#hoody#hoody x reader#tim wright#tim wright x reader#nina the killer#nina the killer x reader#masky x reader
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Hi! I just wanted to say your account is very refreshing because of the way you speak about Yui so realistically! Of course she's pretty and kind and gone through a lot, so it's normal to support her. But you also don't treat Yui like she's this fragile little lamb that never had an impure thought in her life.
I was a little gagged about her SA'ing ayato because I never knew about that, and idk if anybody else would ever have brought that up (since she's Yui she could never do any wrong!) Usually I just see people treat Yui like this untouchable character who you cannot dare critique ANYTHING about because the "boys are worse", so whatever questionable thing SHE does or says is not that bad.
I do like Yui and support her, and this is not to put her on the same level as the boys, but I just like how in your posts you portray her as a normal human girl who is flawed and can be good and bad, you know what I mean? Hopefully that made sense! 💕
// No worries, I got what you mean. I’m glad you think so! 😌🩷
I see Yui the same way I see any other DL character. She’s been shown capable of doing crazy things just like the Diaboys, so why would I treat her like some kind of saint? To me, everyone’s both good and bad after all. It’s normal not to agree with everything your favorite character does, and there’s nothing wrong with criticizing their behavior when something they do frustrates you.
I’m not a fan of the “ Otome heroines suck!” mindset, but I also don’t agree with the “Otome heroines are precious angels who can do no wrong” perspective either. In every game I’ve played, there’s never been a main cast character who hasn’t acted unreasonably/badly from time to time. And honestly, that kind of extreme idealization tends to attract even more hate towards heroines, especially when someone bashes the love interests while putting the heroine on a pedestal, even though their actions often aren’t that different. It just feels hypocritical.
It’s totally fine to love and point out the good sides of your favorite character, since that’s part of what makes being a fan fun! However, I think it’s also important to be fair about it. If your favorite has done some questionable stuff, it doesn’t really make sense to hate on other characters for doing that kind of things too. It gets one-sided when people ignore their favorite’s flaws but tear others apart for them. Every character has their ups and downs, but acknowledging that doesn’t mean you like your best boy/girl any less~!
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this took a millennia to make cause i kept getting distracted and gathering screenshots to back my points up was incredibly time consuming
but it has been done. anon from how many days ago i hope you are happy
A little of Pure Sydney's flaws
There will be two parts to this cause on god this is long. On this part I will be exploring flaws that tend to be a bit more visible with pure Sydney
This is in no way a complete analysis, I definitely have missed many more of Sydney's flaws, and because Tumblr is a bitch and a half, I regrettably cannot jam as many screenshots from the game/its codes as much as I would like. But I hope this post could act as a good point of reference regardless for any fans of Sydney, or people looking to explore more of their character out there!
Continuing under the cut.
So.
What’s the deal with Sydney? What’s wrong with them, what are their flaws and what make the relationship between them and the PC so toxic?
Well ain’t there just so much to unpack.
In short, Sydney at their core is a spineless, directionless, malleable individual that important influences in their life can easily shape, be it their family, the Temple, or the PC.
Sydney, as they are today, was raised with beliefs upheld by the temple. Something they are deeply religious, devoted and grateful for. However, as we all know, some of those values can be extremely morally questionable.
Speaking of deeply devoted let’s start with Pure Sydney, shall we?
Victim blaming tendencies
One of the ideals Sydney was raised with is their extremely victim-blaming mindset. Which I have shown here
2. Lust and internal conflict
Something else that fascinates me greatly is that regardless of their state, Sydney is always tempted by the PC. PC’s existence and presence alone are pushing Sydney towards the pit of sinful desires no matter if they are Pure or Corrupted.
The first thing that comes to mind is when accepting their confession results in a decrease of Sydney’s Purity stat:
The notion of accepting Sydney’s affections is seen as an encouragement for them to fall towards sin.
Being in a relationship with PC means they are constantly fighting their own urges and desires. Being taught their entire life that these feelings are wrong, Sydney suffers from tremendous guilt. Even when promised and permitted by the Temple, Sydney still finds physical intimacy with the PC sinful:
These just go to show how deeply buried Sydney is in the Temple’s teachings, unable to stray from it. Which is a perfect segue into their next flaw
3. Attachment to the Temple and blind faith.
Even from the latest confessional scene added, Sydney clearly cares about PC’s wellbeing and displays great concern for them, almost breaking out of the ideals they were raised with just to defend their beloved. But they are not quite there yet. They still seek out for the Temple when they are faced with these doubts. They think that they are doing something wrong for prioritizing the PC’s best interest over the Temple’s teachings.
Sydney is INCAPABLE of detaching themselves from the Temple. The Temple is just such a big part of Sydney’s character that no matter what, they will side with the Temple before they think about the PC when forced to make that choice.
And in a way, Sydney’s blind faith is encouraged by the Player for choosing to keep them Pure. The PC is essentially acting as another shelter, shielding, “protecting” them. The PC never expressed that they wanted a change of mindset from Sydney, so Sydney never had a change in mindset.
And if you played the new confessional event, you would know that you as the player never had the option to either. This might have been intentional. But I will expand on that later.
More showings of Sydney’s blind faith can be found in littler events while praying with Sydney in the Temple, where they would turn a blind eye to fellow followers being punished:
A bit more about their attachment to the Temple I have also mentioned here.
4. Superiority/Saviour complex
Another aspect of Sydney that people talk about, but I don’t think quite enough, is how aggressive they can get, specifically towards those they deem as sinners. This is a trait shared among both states of Sydney.
For example, the beach date:
And several more.
Though, pure Sydney might be a tad worse at this. As they seem to find themselves more righteous than sinners:
If they are the one taking confessions, pure Sydney is often more judgemental compared to the more empathetic corrupt Sydney:
When PC as a member of the Temple is caught masturbating by Sydney, they take matters into their own hands:
They also display a bit of a saviour complex from their opinions about the PC at low Purity:
5. Dumb teenager
Just a small thing, but I feel like most people just brush over the fact that pure Sydney practically proposes to PC at high enough lust.
I think I don’t need to stress just how insane it is to propose to someone you haven’t known for long. Just to what? Have sex? Loser behaviour.
I can't wait to explore their flaws when corrupted :3
When kept pure, Sydney has so many interesting flaws that make them incredibly humane and a little irritating, but that's the charm of their character! They are deeply troubled and blinded by their own devotion that they are ignorant, a bit arrogant and even self destructive. It's what makes Sydney... Sydney and I wouldn't have them any other way.
#dol#dol sydney#sydney the faithful#sera rambles#technically#sera answers#cause this was asked by an anon and i just sort of didnt answer#woops#sorry anon i saw sydney suffering and forgot everything you said prior#i hope youre seeing this#when is the sequel coming? idfk when i finish drawing the little doodle for it but no promises#degrees of lewdity#tumblr should let me post more than 10 images...#i deserve yapping rights
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I've been wanting to find a way to articulate more of my thoughts about what Veilguard ultimately did with Solas and why it feels like they did and did not take him out of character to me, because said thoughts are a mess.
And fair warning that this is going to be critical of Veilguard (and Inquisition a little bit) because essentially I feel like what they did is soft-retconned key parts of the narrative to make Solas both more sympathetic and less sympathetic in ways that are (imo) a disservice to the character.
Let me explain,
Part 0: This is the page I am on
First off let me open by saying that I always thought of Solas as someone who, in regards to his main plans, knew exactly what he was doing. I think it makes the most sense that someone who has been waging a war against vastly more powerful opponents for literal millennia be intelligent, decisive, manipulative, and unwilling to leave things to chance. I think it makes the most sense for such a person to rarely be wrong in evaluating and executing his intended plans, because against someone with literal godlike power being wrong would presumably mean being dead.
I also think it makes the most sense that such a person, who was continually given extremely difficult choices during his years of leadership, to have gained a level of ruthlessness that few other characters in the setting can claim. I think it makes sense that such a character could become horrendously bigoted, as well as jaded, by their own (again, millennia of) negative life experience. I think it makes sense for such a character to become proud to a fault, convinced that they are correct in what they do, even at times when they don't want to be.
At the same time, Solas is also portrayed as being highly principled. At least, I think that was Weekes' intention with the character. You can see at multiple points in Inquisition, through banter and approval, what things he feels the most strongly about and how he does not like to compromise on them. Protecting and nurturing free will, doing your duty to your people, and never doing harm (without a good cause rlly important clause there lmao) are common points suggested with him. Slavery in all its forms is a particularly sore point with him.
I've always thought that Solas' biggest flaws interacted with his guiding principles in interesting ways. That both combined to make him into an extremely dangerous, but understandable (if not sympathetic) antagonist.
I don't vibe with takes that all of Solas' principles are a smokescreen and he's just selfish or just nursing a bruised ego. Don't get me wrong, he says some thoughtlessly cruel things in Inquisition that I can see why the most critical fans feel the ways they do about him. But imo there's a lot of stuff he says and does that is narratively meaningless if caring about people (his people first and foremost, but other people as well) is not a core part of his character. For all his flaws, I personally never got the impression that this was the intention.
Though I also don't vibe with takes that Solas, in his goals and plans to achieve them, is objectively correct either. I think a lot of it comes down to what Solas' actual plan for the veil is and why he's tearing it down in the first place.
Part 1: Solas' Plan (and Lack Thereof)
Veilguard portrays (or at least casts judgement on) a version of Solas who is going at the Veil without much of an actual plan. He is demonstrated as having made a prison to keep the Evanuris from escaping when it comes down, yes, but that's clearly a side concern. He claims he will try to minimize the damage to Thedas, and this is explained to mean that he planned to have spirits intervene to protect people from demons, which is an extremely uncertain method of limiting casualties.
The game refuses to even address what he thinks is going to happen to the elves when the Veil comes down. To go by Epler's AMA response, he seems to just be blindly assuming that all elves will become immortal again when exposed to that much magic, and the game does not suggest one way or the other if that is actually true--the motive to give elves back their immortality is only even suggested in one missable sidequest cutscene.
It's very strange to me that now, with the story finished and the franchise never planning to come back to it, we still don't get an elaboration on what Solas planned. What he was expecting to happen. Unless I missed it, the only explanations we get of what will happen when the Veil comes down, and thus the only thing we can accept as being true, is that the world will be "flooded with demons" and the result of this will be that "thousands of people" will die, and ostensibly the elves will regain their immortality (and command of magic, but iirc even that isn't stated and is just an assumption.)
I absolutely did not think that was the entirety of Solas' plan to bring back the old world. You know why I didn't think that?
Because we heard Solas' original plans in Inquisition.
Low approval dialogue, if you argue with Solas that he should be helping the elves, has this gem of a line:
PC: The man who has lived half his life in the Fade has no ideas? Solas: Not unless we collapse the Veil and bring the Fade here so I can casually reshape reality, no.
At the time, this line is treated as sarcasm or an intentionally absurd suggestion he made because he's irritated with you. But in Trespasser, once you learn the truth about who he is, there is another line of dialogue that suggests that this was actually what Solas intended initially.
PC: What would have happened if Corypheus had died and you’d recovered the orb? Solas: I would have entered the Fade, using the mark you now bear. Then I would have torn down the Veil. As this world burned in the raw chaos, I would have restored the world of my time… the world of the elves.
Isn't this wild?
His plan was actually even worse than Veilguard suggested it to be. It's not that he's okay with some collateral damage to (somehow) restore the elves. He was okay with the entirety of Thedas as being collateral damage. To me it doesn't even sound like the demons themselves would have been the problem, moreso the primordial energy that would spill back in.
And we'll get into what else Trespasser suggested about his plan in Part 2 but the point is that the Veil coming down is portrayed as only being step 1, and step 2 is something that Solas has to guide himself. Even the ending of Veilguard suggests this a little bit? I don't know if intentionally, though. Solas, in the ending where you attack him, has a throwaway line about the "enchantments" needing a "delicate touch" as he goes to finish his ritual, which strikes me as an odd thing to say when the Veil was already falling down and that was the only part of his plan that the game dwelled on. It only makes sense in light of the Trespasser conversation, but I feel like the rest of the game ignores parts of the Trespasser conversation, so I don't know what to think.
Veilguard just isn't interested in exploring what this guidance on Solas' part looks like or what it would actually do to the world. It's content to be vague about it. I am not. I did not want it to stay vague at this last stage of the story.
What enchantments? What are the limits to this reality reshaping he mentioned in Inquisition? How did he intend to restore the Old World? How, specifically, did he think this would be helping the elves? Is there a way that the Veil can come down and not kill everyone in Thedas?
The intelligence of Solas' plan, and therefore his character, depends on the answers to these questions and I never got them! The game won't reward me for making assumptions on them either because the overriding narrative here is "the Veil can't come down, no matter what" so there's no reason to examine what he wants to do with it.
I also think it's weird that they changed it to a comparatively flimsier "thousands of people will die" anyway. I've seen multiple players point out that likely way more people died in the Double Blight that came from disrupting Solas' ritual than the amount of people the characters say would have died if we hadn't. Players who suggest that the resultant disruption to Thedas was so great and the Veil coming down so undersold as a threat that they actually blame Rook not helping Solas with his ritual in the beginning. Which is obviously not the narrative the devs wanted here. If they'd made it clear that Solas planned to destroy all/most of modern Thedas (even if reluctantly) then we wouldn't have this dissonance with players so much, I think.
But in regards to "getting him his goals", I think the intelligence of the plan also relies on figuring out what those goals even are. Veilguard was not terribly interested in those either.
Part 2: Solas' Motivations (and Lack Thereof)
Much like Veilguard evades telling the player what specifically Solas was planning to do with the Veil coming down, it also doesn't really touch on his motivations?
Harding suggests at the opening that he wants to bring back the old world because it is "beautiful". Solas himself claims he has to take down the Veil purely because it is "unnatural", a neutral fact that doesn't address anything, and because it is a "wound" on the world, a negative phrase which is nonetheless not defined. What does it mean that it's a wound? What is happening to Thedas because the Veil is in place? What are the ramifications of leaving it up? I saw little explanation of that in this game, despite previous entries leaving a lot of interesting details to draw on.
We know from the introduction that Solas bringing the Veil up made the elves mortal and destroyed their world, and one of the mural cutscenes suggests that taking it down might give elves their immortality back. So that's another one.
But his main motivation in Veilguard is presented to be simply the fact that Solas regrets having put it up in the first place. In the ending of the game, when he is trying to explain his reasons to (potentially) the literal love of his life who is begging him to stop what he's doing, the reason Solas gives is that if he doesn't take down the Veil then Mythal will have died for nothing. It's the Sunken Cost Fallacy. Yes, he also says that he will "destroy the world [Mythal] loved" but he doesn't elaborate on what this means, just like the "wound" comment, even when it would have been extremely relevant and helpful to his cause to lay his cards on the table here and be honest about what he wants if there is more to it.
So players who have never played prior games are forced to conclude that Solas has no good reason to take down the Veil.
Which might work well enough for Veilguard's narrative of Solas, but it certainly makes his "don't you think if I had another way I would have done it?" to Varric and his "I would treasure the chance to be proven wrong" to a friendly Inquisitor meaningless phrases in retrospect. I personally don't find it more compelling when a heretofore intelligent and principled character breaks their principles for no good reason. I prefer a principled antagonist who breaks their principles for an understandable reason, a reason that the protagonists will have to put in real work to challenge if their goal is to redeem said antagonist.
And I think prior to Veilguard, Solas' motivations were ones that were worth challenging.
Part 2A: Solas' People (and Lack Thereof)
For example, he wants to bring down the Veil to help spirits. There is dialogue between him and the Inquisitor early on that in the days of Elvhenan, spirits were everywhere in the waking world because the waking world was filled with magic. Cole in Trespasser can suggest this too, as a spirit Cole is ecstatic to realize that he "belongs" in the mortal world as much as he does the Fade once they learn that the two were once the same thing. There is an implication that spirits who wish to visit the mortal world become demons because they can't do so without possessing something (unless they are extremely powerful.) Similarly, in Inquisition many spirits were forcibly pulled into the mortal world and twisted into demons in places where the Veil was torn, because they couldn't handle the existential crisis that is a world without magic. The most spirits who show up in Thedas in this setting, do so in places where the Veil is thin, and the Veil is only ever thin in places of great suffering, meaning those spirits reflect that suffering themselves.
Not only does Veilguard never examine this concept as one of Solas' motivations, but they seem to have tried very hard to erase the validity of it from previous games. You would not know, playing Veilguard, that most spirits cannot enter the mortal world without a physical vessel, or that the Veil has been detrimental for spirits. Spirits are all over the Crossroads, and the implication is that they could always go there. You encounter plenty of them in Rivain, Nevarra, and Tevinter, and they are happy, healthy, free, uncontained to a vessel, and even largely capable of retaining their selves under pressure. This is entirely at odds with previous depictions of Thedas and its relationship with spirits. Yes, Nevarra and Rivain have more welcoming cultures and so it makes a little more sense (though not terribly so imo) for you to see more of them around and treated better, but it's not like anyone acknowledges this as outside the norm for the rest of Thedas. Inquisition in particular made a point about how much people hate and distrust them because they're such an unknown to mortals. In Tevinter, they are technically as much victims of magister slavery as elves, at least so Dorian and Solas' banter suggests.
Solas wanting to make the world better for spirits is a particularly important goal for him in retrospect because he was once a spirit, so it's a low blow to his character that it's never acknowledged in this game about stopping him.
But anyway, now we have the whole deal with the elves. This is where I see a lot of the discussion divide. I've seen people argue that Solas should have been allowed to enact his plan because it would end the very real oppression and cultural genocide that elves are facing, and I've seen people say that his plan would not have actually helped the elves at all and so it was a bad plan. I'm not sure how I feel about these takes.
Mostly because I personally did not think that Solas' plan, at least initially, was to end the oppression of elves. I think that if he'd been allowed to carry his plan out, the oppression of elves would end, but only because the entirety of Thedas' oppressive power structures would cease to exist along with its society. I did not think his true goal was to give modern elves their immortality back either, though I guess I can say I judged him wrong on that front in Veilguard. I thought, at best, that helping modern elves became a secondary goal for him later down the line, once he realized modern Thedosians are people--and for a low approval Solas may he rest in retconned peace it was a benefit to help him recruit. In The Dread Wolf Take You, for example, he does have a comment to Charter that the "elves that remain" like her might think his world is a better place when he's done. This could have been a lie to let her think better of his goal, or it could have been the truth and his intention was to somehow spare at least some of the elves what is coming.
The reason I believe that it is only secondary, however, is because Solas for most of Inquisition does not consider modern elves to be his people. He makes it clear he does not identify with the Dalish early on, but even when it comes to non-Dalish elves, which he ostensibly is, he has this line towards the Inquisitor after the Wicked Hearts quest:
PC: I hope Briala uses her position to help your people. Solas: How would helping Briala help… Oh, you mean elves! Solas: I’m sorry, I was confused. I do not consider myself to have much in common with the elves.
PC: Nor should you. You’re not defined by the shape of your ears. They’re not your people. Solas: No, they are not.
This whole exchange can be kind of dfgkdfkgksd ehhh but I think the salient point is that Solas does not identify with modern elves and slipped up when he made this clear.
And yet, he does have people, he isn't just a solitary misanthrope like he tries to shake that off with. He clearly does have people and moreover it is for them that he is doing what he's doing.
Trespasser has this line, for example:
PC: You’d murder countless people? Solas: Wouldn’t you, to save your own?
Consider also that there is an aspect to his motivations that he deliberately refused to tell the Inquisitor at the end of Trespasser.
PC: Why does this world have to die for the elves to return? Solas: A good question, but not one I will answer. Solas (high approval): You have always shown a thoughtfulness I respected. It would be too easy to tell you too much. Solas (low approval): You will survive this day, Inquisitor, and though I owed you an explanation, I will not give you tools to use against me.
I find this exchange so very interesting. There is a reason why the restoration of his world has to result in the end of ours, but he won't tell us because he believes it would give us the tools to stop him. Even on low approval he is comfortable with us knowing that he intends to destroy the world, but not the reason why he has to.
As far as I can tell Veilguard didn't do anything interesting with this. But originally I thought it had to do specifically with his people, the ancient immortal elves, and what he would do to get them back. To bring it back to a previous point, I did not think that it was just in giving the modern day elves their immortality back because I can't see how telling the Inquisitor this would give them the tools to use against him, especially if you yourself are an elf.
I know I saw some people speculate that Solas was trying to bring them back with time travel, as a reference to the Hushed Whispers quest, but even though I could see the Dragon Age devs doing that because the time travel stuff was silly in the first place and yet they decided it was a good plot point anyway I didn't think that was it either? It didn't feel thematically punchy enough.
And as a warning the next section will be getting into more speculative territory, but
Part 2B: The Ancient Elvhen (and Lack Thereof)
So, I don't think it's a huge secret that Inquisition presented the idea that the immortal elves of Arlathan never entirely went away.
We see this in the fact that there are immortal elves, obviously. Solas, Felassan, Abelas, and the rest of the sentinels at the Temple of Mythal are all elves who lived in the days of Arlathan, and yet are still alive thousands of years later, walking about in modern day Thedas. Furthermore, Solas in particular hints to Abelas that there are even more immortal elves than him. Consider the fact that if you're a Lavellan in the temple, Abelas distinctly denies that you number among his people, and in fact if I'm remembering rightly, calls you a shemlen regardless of your race.
And yet when speaking with Solas, he has this to say:
Solas: There are other places, friend. Other duties. Your people yet linger. Abelas: Elvhen such as you? Solas: Yes. Such as I.
Solas who is, of course, an immortal elf. It's even possible that he is one Abelas knows personally, given the importance Solas once had to Mythal. My Lavellan listening to that like wtf :(
Consider also the banter that Solas can have with Cole, if you romanced him and got to the breakup scene after this quest:
Cole: He hurts, an old pain from before, when everything sang the same. Cole: You're real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything, but it can't. Cole: They sleep, masked in a mirror, hiding, hurting, and to wake them... (Gasps.) Where did it go? Solas: I apologize, Cole. That is not a pain you can heal.
This banter is never examined in Veilguard! Who is hiding? Who is hurting? The fact that "waking" them is on the table suggests to me that it is sleeping elves, perhaps like the sentinels who only woke to defend Mythal's temple and slept the rest of the time. In the context of Cole trying to explain to Lavellan why Solas broke up with her (and more important, Solas wanting to make sure she does not know this information,) I thought this line referred specifically to Solas' true people, the reason he was doing all of this.
The idea that there are other ancient elves out there, sleeping somewhere, suffering for some reason, as they wait for the Dread Wolf to bring the Veil down and wake them. The "masked in a mirror" part felt especially interesting to me because there's a part in the Masked Empire novel where Briala and Felassan (among other people) come across a couple elves that were allegedly sleeping in Uthenara, in a location they were only able to get to by traveling the Crossroads, which are located through eluvians. In that scene, Felassan gets very upset to see that these particular elves have apparently been killed in their sleep.
It makes me wonder if this is why Solas had to hide this possibility from the Inquisitor at all costs, especially from a low-approval Inquisitor. His motivations for doing all of this are the countless elves, his version of elves, who are scattered all over and currently helpless as they sleep. I can't help but imagine that a particularly desperate modern Thedosian might consider if removing the Dread Wolf's reason to bring down the Veil might not be the only way of stopping him from doing it.
Veilguard doesn't follow up on any of these plot threads. In fact, someone who has never read the novel might even come away from the game with the impression that Solas and the Evanuris are the only immortal elves that survived to Modern Thedas, as even Felassan's role in The Masked Empire is obscured from the player.
It's a shame because if they'd kept this plot point relevant it would have been a major challenge to overcome in persuading Solas not to bring down the Veil. Presuming he is talking about the ancient elves, Cole's dialogue suggests to me that it is the process of waking them, or some element of it, which necessitates that Solas destroy the rest of Thedas.
This brings up an important question, potentially even a difficult choice. Which society do you think is worth saving? Would you be willing to let an entire people sleep and suffer for eternity just to preserve your way of life? Could you convince Solas to allow that? Solas, who sees Thedas as so corrupt and terrible to elves and spirits, who fought so hard to give his fellow elves a more ideal world which never came to fruition?
Also yes the sleeping and suffering to preserve your way of life thing IS ironic because that is exactly what he did to the titans but the game was so uninterested in exploring that too.
And like, to be clear, I never thought that Dragon Age would actually have the player make that kind of terrible choice. Even in Origins you were sometimes given the chance to take a third option that benefited everyone if you did a bit of digging. And both Inquisition and the opening of this game teased the idea of you convincing Solas there was another way. I guess what that third option actually looked like would have depended on more specifics. Mainly, why waking them requires that modern Thedas be destroyed.
Ehh I wonder if any of this was even on the table when Trespasser was written. Maybe I read it all wrong.
Edit: crying and screaming because I apparently DID NOT read it wrong and Veilguard did intentionally retcon that plot point.
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All in all, I personally did not really have a problem with what Solas was willing to do in this game. But when it came to the "why", I found myself really struggling with it after thinking about it for a while.
At the very least, I feel as though what I speculated above would have made Solas' motivations more understandable, even if, again, it did not ultimately make them sympathetic. Going just by what is shown in the game, Solas' actual motivations in Veilguard are not nearly as understandable to me, especially because not even a single elf or spirit is shown as wanting him to do it dfkgksdfk.
And clearly that is what they wanted for this narrative, but I can't believe it makes him more compelling as an antagonist in the franchise as a whole. I like him as a classic trolley problem dude.
Also he literally ignored Mythal when she told him not to do it in the regret mural and yet it's Mythal telling him he doesn't have to do it later that finally makes him stop? I guess Flemythal didn't realize the code word was "I release you from my service" or smth
Also,
Idk man. Thinking about it and I'm still so sad the ancient elves were a dropped plot point. I guess it's possible, with all the racism already shoved offscreen in this game, that onscreen racial tension between even these two different factions of elves was too tall an order.
#veilguard critical#inquisition critical#solas critical#(I mean I don't see it as solas critical but it is kind of)#this was supposed to be an Essay but it is a Rant#long post
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Why A Better World is my favourite "Evil Superman" Story
So in the last two decades or so, there's been a notable amount of dark and edgy stories around superheroes turning evil and whatnot and most of them really love to do their own expies of Superman. I've never been the biggest fans of these kinds of stories.
And then there's the actual stories of Superman and other heroes being outright villains or at least just massive assholes. In recent years, this has been largely thanks to the influence of media like the Injustice Games or the Synderverse DC movies. It's... honestly become a trope I am tired of.
Because you know the damnest thing? There is a story that does all these ideas really damn well and arguably better. It is the two-parter from the Justice League cartoon "A Better World".
Now, I am aware how most people favouring the DCAU has become a bit of toxic nostalgia at times and it's something I myself am trying to work through a bit. But in this case, I do think it's the best idea of doing an evil DC story, much better and more interesting than the Crime Syndicate, who if you ask me are not very interesting, though I do remember liking the Crisis On Two Earths movie a lot, which funny enough, was originally going to be this two parter before various things led to it being canned and then later repurposed as a direct to DVD movie.
Anyway, my main crux of why I love this story is simple... The entire Justice League turns evil... and the reasons are very much in-character for all of them. You look at the scene with Justice Lord Batman for example.
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As fucking evil as the Justice Lords are... Batman can't quite fully hate his alternate self for his reason for taking part in all this being basically one-step further than his own mission, that no child should ever go through what he did. Hell, I recall reading that the reason the writers had Batman drop his batarang at the end of this scene... was because he genuinely wouldn't be able to come up with an argument to that.
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Superman likewise kills Lex Luthor because yeah, Luthor literally exploited the flaws in Democracy and became president of the US, threatening to kinda basically start world war 3. It's obviously horrible... but Superman is a character whose main motivation is making the world a better place. And if people who abuse the systems of power of the world are hurting people, why shouldn't Superman put a stop to that?
And yeah, Superman should obviously never kill, he's the most paragon of paragons of the DC universe, a man committed to always being better than the villains he fights... but this is him pushed to his most logical extreme. Hell, the main Superman knows this and its why Lex used his knowledge of this alternate universe as part of his plan in the season after this, to goad our Superman into crossing the line because yeah, there's a part of him that could go this far.
But right as Superman is about to apparently finish him, the big guy says this.
"I'm not the man who killed President Luthor. I wish to heaven that I were but I'm not."
Because Superman like everyone else, obviously would have those same thoughts and same urges. He's human.
I've kinda gone off Injustice a bit because to be honest... the injustice games were kinda just this but a bit too edgelordy. Hell, in A Better World, Lois Lane still lives and the whole genesis of it doesn't revolve around her getting fridged.
So yeah, A Better World is probably one of my favourite mirror universe stories because of the fact that well... it really is like looking in a mirror and seeing just how easy the greatest heroes can become evil and how they wouldn't be massively out of character doing so. But also it reminds us that as much as this darkness can tempt some of our finest, the ones who don't go down this dark path are stronger in heart than anyone else. Because when the world becomes a dark and horrible place, it becomes very easy to be just as dark. But even though it can be hard to still try and be a good person even in dark times, it's ultimately worth it. Because good always triumphs over evil.
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I feel like maybe I'm out of the loop on this, and you are one of the most well-versed people I've ever seen when it comes to ttrpgs, so I'm hoping you might be able to enlighten me on this. I've played a good few games in my time, but I've been running into people who seem to have an almost feral hate for any "Powered By the Apocalypse" game. Now I can't say for certain all of them I've played (at least 3), but is there something about the system that just enrages people?
I know that some people dislike PbtA games for reasons that boil down to matters of taste. One of my good friends, the lead writer of @anim-ttrpgs does dislike PbtA games, and in his case it boils down to a number of reasons: he feels the structure of these games is often a bit too restrictive and ends up with characters who are defined largely by their narrative tropes; and another reason he tends to dislike them is that the popularity of the framework has led to a lot of lazy PbtA games that don't really do anything interesting with the framework and are kind of just lazy and bad. That's a surface level read of his points and he's actually written a long post about it, but especially on that latter point I do agree with him: it's nowhere near as bad as the proliferation of lazy D&D 5e hacks, but on the indie RPG side there are a lot of cases where someone feels that a PbtA hack would be perfect for their first TTRPG. The thing is, it's very easy to make a PbtA game, but it's extremely hard to make a good PbtA game. Some of the best games I've seen using the framework are actually quite involved and have lots of interlocking parts, but a lot of the ones I've seen are simply kind of. Meh.
But there's another strain of PbtA haters out there that I know of and this group of people is best characterized as "people with a grudge against certain types of games doing the worst faith reading of those games to find 'flaws' in them." I think the most visceral hatred of PbtA games I've seen was on The Gaming Den, where a bunch of dudes convinced themselves that PbtA games are bad because on a roll of 6- a GM could just make bears happen out of nowhere. So, you know, it was a bunch of guys who did a surface level read of Apocalypse World but never read the MC principles, because if they had they would have realized that "Make a move that follows" is one of the MC principles.
All of which is to say, it's more or less the same that's going on with pretty much any RPG: some people will read a game and give it a shot and decide it's not for them, and often come away with a way to articulate why they disliked it. Other people will go in wanting to find a reason to dislike a thing and do the worst faith reading possible. And a lot of people will simply never read a game and simply accept that the previous group's reading of it is true.
So none of this is to say that none of the people who you've encountered have actually read a PbtA game and played it and actually formulated their opinions through experience. But knowing what nerds can be like it's probably at least some of them.
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Frankly put I think some of this fandom doesn't understand what "anger issues" actually mean because let me tell you, it's not being rightfully upset about Felipe and Gloria or even Two Face after he finds out about Willis. like... just because he's portrayed alongside "emotional shutdown except when he's EXTREMELY NOT" Batman doesn't mean Jason's reactions are like... particularly volatile or extreme.
Like esp when put alongside a room full of adults who are just calmly going "damn him," Jason's a teenager and he's going to be more emotionally responsive. And, yknow, the writer(s) just like to portray adults as more cool and in control.
But even among teenagers you can recognize these kinds of patterns of anger and... mostly he doesn't have it. You can't point to incidents of reacting to particularly egregious bad things and the responses to them and call it "anger issues" because like... That's just normal responsiveness.
I think that just inherently part of the conceit of Robin is that the whole POINT is to have a more emotionally responsive partner for Batman to bounce off of. Like from the very first issue, Batman's new partner (Dick) was described as "daring and impulsive" and the dynamic is established as this contrast. It allows the writers to have someone respond more within the story and Batman to be cooler by rising above emotional responses and get the job done.
But back then it wasn't a mark against Robin, it was EXPLICTLY marketed as a positive and interesting trait. So when we roll around to post-crisis and these traits that have been quite literally the defining mark of the Robin mantle are negative, some of us have issues witht he implications in HOW it's portrayed as negative.
Like yes, it's interesting for a heroes greatest strength to also be their greatest flaw, but when you make the flaw more predominant than it as a virtue ESPECIALLY when you've now changed the character to be a poor, formerly homeless kid? It has bad fucking vibes.
And, again, an extreme emotional response to an extreme circumstance (all but catching a perp in the act, not being able to do anything about him, seeing him use his "one phonecall" to drive the victim to suicide RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU????) is perfectly fucking rational, and not part of a broader scope of "anger issues."
#ax rants#“anger issues” require a more frequent basis of high emotional responsivity to categorize than we have enough of a basis for#in the older comics - especially compared to his age range and the extreme circumstances he's exposed to?#Bruce is an unreliable narrator because its not terribly uncommon for what he says and what we see on-panel to not truly match up#like you can inform us that Jason has anger issues all day but when we don't SEE it outside of extreme circumstances#that pretty much anyone would be angry about in...#mashing meta bones with axel#this got longer than I meant ti to lmao
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My Hero Headcanon: Rei

When I think of Rei’s childhood, I think of Yuki from Wolf Children.
Just not at all being the lady her parents probably wanted her to be and living her best life collecting bugs, feathers, and small animal bones.
And just like Toga, those interests were suppressed because they ‘weren’t appropriate for little girls,’ and she was made to conform.

I mean, look at her expression and tell me she wasn’t told to sit still and be quiet too many times when she was a child.
I think she was a weird kid.
And that's why I play with the snowboarding theme when I do fanworks involving Rei, as well as the idea that Touya’s inability to sit still when he's agitated/excited comes from Rei. It's also why I have the headcanon there was never a point where Rei and Endeavor loved each other. They already have two extremely different personalities in canon, and the high-energy headcanon just highlights a further personality difference.
I’ve already gone into it in more detail with an Endeavor analysis that I made, but here’s an excerpt that illustrates my point:

...what I think shows here is they weren’t really talking all that much. Specifically, he is not ‘talking down to her.’ He is not treating her with any particular disrespect or putting her down as inferior. He doesn’t have the arrogance he later exhibits. This also isn’t him being aloof and ignoring her either. Look at his face, specifically his eyes. That is the same blank, deer in the headlights, “I have one brain cell dinging around in my head that is struggling to find a way to interact with people,” stare he shares with Shouto.
He has no idea what to say to her.
So finally, Rei turns off to the side to admire the garden, and he asks, “Do you like the flowers?” It’s a small thing, but it does show that in some capacity, he did show some interest in Rei and making her happy. He’s just stupidly awkward about it at this point. (Even if his ultimate goal was…well, we’ll get into that.)
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The long and short of it is if you remove the violence/temper aspect of Endeavor's character, you basically have Shouto: An awkward dork who doesn’t entirely know how to interact with people and he probably doesn’t understand sarcasm or euphemisms either. The main reason we can’t see that side of Endeavor’s character very well is because he’s weaponized intimidation/violence to cover it up. (Dammit, dude, this it not how you patch a character flaw.) So I don’t think Shouto’s isolation and childhood training caused his social ineptitude so much as exacerbated a character trait that was already there. He got it from Dad.
So referring to the earlier pre-kids part of Rei and Endeavor's relationship before the violence actually started, imagine the awkward personality-type paired with a partner who is, by all accounts, weird and has too much energy to be contained. Arranged marriage aside, I like the idea that Rei reverted back to her odd personality after she left her parents’ house. I like to think she danced in the kitchen when there was no one home, hoarded feathers and skulls and other odd keepsakes, and looked for places where she could snowboard. She was a housewife by herself for long periods of time, so who was going to stop her?
There is a short story I absolutely love called Ink, Water, Milk by Catherynne M. Valente. The plot's not relevant to this post, but there is a scene where a bored housewife buys a bunch of those cube-shaped watermelons and just stacks them in her fridge to admire them.
And for some reason, I can picture Rei doing this.
Like Endeavor just comes home to find her sitting cross-legged in front of the open fridge and smiling happily at the nine cubed watermelons stacked neatly inside. (Keep in mind, these things average $100-$200 a piece and are inedible/decorative.) No explanation for why she's done this, she just has a big, ecstatic smile on her face and pointing into the fridge. You know, Touya energy when he's a kid and excited about something. And Endeavor, in true Shouto fashion, is baffled by what she’s done, has no idea why she’s done it, and wondering if there’s a joke he’s not understanding.
I like to mirror this behavior in Touya and Shouto when I can in writing for Ambush Simulation. Underneath the trauma, they are at their core the brother with their mother’s high energy and the brother who is socially awkward and doesn’t quite know how to deal with the unhinged behavior but doing his best.
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Edit because I just found this gif.
Young Rei:
#my hero academia#rei todoroki#dabi#touya todoroki#shouto todoroki#endeavor#enji todoroki#boku no hero academia#bnha#mha#headcanon#watermelon#rei himura#rei young#tw flashing
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talent and expectations | arturo giles rant
I was really hesitant to post this here, but it has been a while since I've posted an analysis and I feel like Arturo isn't talked enough, so why not. This was written on a twt thread that was meant for me and one friend so it's a bit messy. Also take into account that we're lacking a lot of info on him so none of this is my definitive opinion and I'm sure my thoughts will change and develop when more DRDT releases. And like in all my rants, this is just my opinion and interpretation, and I 100% respect other different perspectives!
VERY messy, very incoherent thoughts and opinions.
Much like David, Teruko, Arei and Ace, among other DRDT characters, Arturo is another example of a person who closed themselves off emotionally to the point of losing empathy because they dont want to face their issues. I feel like the fandom fails to see this because he's the icky one, the one that makes people uncomfortable. There's nothing wrong with being uncomfortable with Arturo's actions, he IS a weirdo, but I think it's a shame that he isn't as understood and talked about as the other characters who fall into this. I would even say that this is a huge part of DRDT's message. You have to open yourself up to others and trust, you have to face your reality, and so on.
Arturo outright denies what happened with his sister because he can't handle the guilt that would come to admit that he had some sort of responsibility over his sister's suicide. If we take his word for it, his sister commited suicide because of him leaving to make his own life (although I don't doubt there's more to it), which he absolutely rejects and denies to the point of threatening Eden. This comes from the extreme distress the situation gives him. He often shows being emotionally closed off, being extremely evasive of his issues, and a lack of empathy constant through the game that is in no small part because of this. Because if you hate and reject others and don't even stop to consider the effect your words has on them, then your mind is at peace and you don't have to face these flaws. It's like they don't even exist- just like Arturo himself says, they're all below human to him. In return, he seems deeply affected by J's rejection and attitude, so it's easy to assume that he is generally affected by other people's actions, just shuts that down more often than not. Arturo is a mess, he's full of contradictions, but this is not all that surprising considering his life until now.
We know that all DRDT characters are over 18, but Arturo is specifically 18. As far as I know, Min has mentioned being 18 on her bonus episode, so considering a few years should have passed, she is probably above 18, or exactly 18. Either way, this makes Arturo one of the youngest, if not the youngest in the cast. And yet, I feel like the fandom fails to see this sometimes and always expect better from him— which is another focal point of his character, in my opinion, and the next point i want to go into. Just like the meme says, I feel like a lot of people have fallen for the character's facade that's meant to be dismantled by the viewer, much like David's lies (I will keep bringing him up bc he's the easiest to compare, but this applies to many other characters, which makes me believe even more that it's the case for Arturo too).
I believe the point of Arturo's characterization is that your talent doesnt translate to actual ability when faced with certain situations, and also, that intelligence doesnt translate to maturity. This is more easily seen in David and his complex relationship with his speech persona and the world as a whole, but that's a different topic that many people have already delved into and not the point of this rant. (I will sidetrack for a second to say that one of my favorite things about DRDT is how you can make some sort of connection between almost any duo of characters, it's really interesting to me how they're all just constantly projecting their issues onto each other despite how much they have in common). But we can still see it on Arturo, especially with his attitude during the trial when he doesn't see himself as able to save Levi, of course he doesn't, he's young and doesn't have the type of experience the others assume he has. Adding to this that Arturo started studying ONLY plastic surgery since he was 12, it's easy to assume that he hasn't grown up normally, even more if he did actually leave his house to pursue his studies. I believe that Arturo's immaturity (despite his intelligence) comes from here.
Part of me hopes that Arturo doesn't get a redemption arc like Arei, I hope he doesnt get redeemed at all, because a lot of people can only sympathise when a character shows the specific emotions they can sympathise with (fear, sadness and regret, mostly) but as soon as they break that mold, there's a lack of willingness to sympathise and understand them (I have a separate rant on my twt priv about how characters who display anger instead of sadness are way more disliked and misunderstood, if anyone wants me to post it I'll think about it, although it's even more personal than this one). I think it'd be more interesting if he takes a different direction, although I'm definitely very curious to see how will Ace's words affect him in the future, and whether Levi lives or dies.
Lastly, although obviously DRDT is a fangan and not an official game, I think it's important to remember one of the core aspects of Danganronpa when discussing DRDT, which is how talents affect people's lives and personalities. This is easily seen in many DRDT characters so I won't go too into it aside from Arturo. We have characters whose whole personalities were shaped around their talent (Junko being the biggest example, but many others come to mind), and I believe Arturo is another example of this that goes unnoticed. Veronika herself has theorized that Arturo's initial slight aversion towards ugliness, before it was an actual issue, was worsened by his talent. Obviously Veronika isn't Arturo, but judging by his reaction and her talent to pinpoint people's deepest issues, we can assume this is true to an extent. This also connects to Arturo's quote about Mai: ''A girl who sees the beauty in everyone''. So there's definitely more to his personality than meets the eye, and as ''weird'' (i hate the use of that word esp in fandom spaces) as he is, I don't think he's all that worse or hard to comprehend than the rest.
My original rant stopped here so I don't really know how to end it. But I hope it was interesting!
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head canons that make you insane about the bad or star sans?
okok this can be taken two ways
Insane as in AHHH I LOVE THIS
or insane as I'M GONNA HURT YOU
So I'll do both, starting with the first one.
Stars:
I find it amazing when Dream is given less innocence, but also isn't an asshole. I know this isn't really a 'headcanon', but the amount of times Dream is either some innocent toddler or an asshole is ridiculous. Like give him morals and stuff that he might lash out at but come on.
Dream having possession of something that reminds him of Passive Nightmare, a journal or some pictures. Maybe something like Basil's photo album from Omori.
When they aren't all assholes... AHHH I LOVE IT. I know this is the bare minimum but the stars have been butchered by the fandom so badly ☹️
Ink knowing about some AU details, but not all. It's more interesting, he may forget some of it anyway, as he's very forgetful.
Swap not being yandere.
Them being friends, I don't like them having drama, or at least if they do they can ignore it to protect the multiverse.
Most of my headcanons focus on the bad sanses since that's how I maintained my interest in the fandom. I've always preferred villains in stories. There's probably more I'm just not remembering. I know theres more it's just not coming to mind
Bad Sanses:
Dadmare is a headcanon I have always LOVED. it's not my main au, so depending on how I want a story to go, I may adjust characters, but Dadmare is a guilty pleasure.
Headcanons that delve deep into the mental of them. How Horror is mentally, Dust is, Killer is, Cross, error etc.
Speaking of that, Cross being a part of the bad sanses is a must, or he must be at least aligned with them (I'll discuss what this means in another post) and Error must occasionally work alongside them, and would have a room at the castle.
BRO I could yap for ages oml.
A general idea that Horror, Killer and Dust cancel out each other flaws. Horror is amazing physically, Dust is amazing magically, Killer is a mix. They all balance out another. Like I'm not saying Horror is gonna wipe the floor with with Murder, but he would certainly stand a chance, and given a chance, would easily win. Killers a Jack of all trades, hes fantastic magically and physically, but doesn't specialise. However since he has both he can use his skills to confuse apponents.
Silly Killer is funny.
okay this is actually kind of hard to write about. I can do bad headcanons easier. So in no particular order:
Making Fell abusive towards Lust
Making the Fallen Starts exist... I've seen them properly executed less than 5 times.
Making Horror act EXTREMELY feral (I do like it, but there's a line... and people treat it like a fucking jump rope.)
Making Nightmare extremely horrible. I don't mean he has to be a dad, but I personally have a limit, I like the angst, it's just not what I'd personally have in my AU.
The Bad Sanses becoming 'good', maybe they're not as bad as people thought, but making them good I don't like.
I think my least favourite headcanon of all time would probably be like Classic being on the star sanses.
I LOVE MY BOY CLASSIC OKAY. AND I WANT HIM NEUTRAL. And when he joins the stars for some reason he veomes super emo and depressed and shit and suddenly has an alter ego like this is some Jeckyl and Hyde. I don't like him being on the star sanses AT ALL.
Okay I'm writing these so Im forgetting them... I'll update if I remember anymore.
but my fav one I love to see.
is where classic IS one of the MTT. Classic is Dust or Killer mainly.
CAUSE OMG
the stories you can make. the animations you can make. THE ART. oh my lord. guys
😼 Heh. if you're struggling for ideas on what to draw yknow 😉😼 there's an idea 😊😊
#gayhorrorsans ask#gayhorrorsans#dust sans#horror sans#sans#sans au#killer sans#nightmare sans#error sans#headcanon
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Arcane does a fun thing with its narrative Darkest Hour.
Or: yet another post about how insanely smart this show is and how absolutely genius its writers are (and how jealous of them I am).
For the uninitiated, the Darkest Hour is the moment just before the climax in which the heroes are at their lowest point. When the Avengers are scattered and Loki opens the portal in NYC, when the Falcon has escaped the Death Star but lost Obi-Wan, when the Fire Nation is set to annihilate the Earth Kingdom, when Frodo fails to destroy the Ring at the Crack of Doom. The heroes must confront their flaws and change for the better for a happy ending.
Arcane’s darkest hour is, of course, in Act 3. One might place it at the very end of episode 9, and that’s certainly where the story is at its most hopeless. But I’d contend it starts as early as the end of episode 8 and carries on through the entirety of episode 9.
After all, that’s when Caitlyn and Vi have separated, lost all hope, and Cait is kidnapped by Jinx. Jinx’s mind is fully gone and throughout the episode everything falls apart around her. Silco is losing control of his chembarons and may well have lost his daughter, the thing most precious to him, and is only barely keeping his powerful façade in line. Zaun has realized how ridiculously outmatched they are in a war with Piltover and the revolutionary cause has become almost impossible. Viktor has manslaughtered his assistant and may never be cured. Jayce has manslaughtered a child and finally realizes how quickly he’s losing his morals. Mel and her mother are fully separating and she is struggling with her warlike destiny. Sevika gets the absolute snot beat out of her and limps to an empty office without a boss.
So yeah. Lot of personal Darkest Hours going on.
“But what’s the interesting thing?” I hear you ask in my ear. I don’t know why I hear you. Shut up. I’m writing. Are you even real?
Excuse me.
Arcane’s interesting twist on the Darkest Hour lies in part of the trope that I didn’t mention. That’s in the villain.
Most stories with a clear-cut villain have a plot structure something like this:

Whether things are going well for one side is inversely proportional to the other. During the Darkest Hour, when the hero is at their weakest, the villain is at their most dominant.
Wait… isn’t Silco the villain of Arcane? Not to be too blunt, but he’s having a shit time. Things are falling apart for him just as badly as for everyone else.
That's the trick. Caitlyn and Vi are suffering. Jinx is suffering. Silco is suffering. Jayce is suffering. Viktor is suffering. Zaun as a whole is suffering. There is only one party in the whole story that isn't suffering, that actually is benefitting from this horrid state of affairs...
EKKO AND HEIMERDINGER
Kidding. They're not really a part of this dance. A big part of Arcane's theming is that acting to help people without an agenda is simply more virtuous than fighting for any invariably-flawed nation that innately perpetuates the cycle of violence.
No, the side that is doing fine is the other that is conspicuously absent from my two prior lists. While the characters that make up its leadership are experiencing personal Darkest Hours, the organization itself is essentially on top of the world, having just scored a huge victory and getting set to bring the war to an end before it even begins. I mentioned how poor the situation for the Undercity looks, but not its counterpart.
Piltover.
Wasn't it so that Piltover started this whole mess? Didn't their oppression cause the revolt that orphaned Vi and Powder's parents? Isn't it their actions that drive Silco to ever greater extremes? Isn't it their normalized political backstabbing that causes Jayce to sacrifice his principles because that's the only way to get ahead? Isn't it their corrupt police force that lets Silco operate his drug empire with impunity?
Silco might look the part. He might be the most personally evil character, might be the one who causes the most misery for our main protagonists Vi and Powder.
But structurally, the shining city of Piltover, its political machine, and its Enforcers are the actual villains of Arcane.
#arcane#darkest hour#writing#silco#piltover#zaun#piltover and zaun#heroes and villains#good writing#just realized this#still noticing new things#even two full years later#i love this show#has someone said this before?#long post
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Hi welcome to miwiheroes <3
MY BYLER SLIDES

*australian accent* 'Ello this is Eli, president of miwiheroes club and I realised I never made an intro post, also this is a little masterpost where you can find all the analysis/ byler rambling posts without having to scrolls through my account :D
I'm 19 years old
At university for psychology
he/him
I may look like an aggressively straight man but no one knows i'm actually hyperfixated on shipping two queer guys from a sci-fi netflix show
I'm a capricorn, infp, bisexual and trans ftm
my hyperfixations right now include byler, the elder scrolls (oblivion), link click, aot, the magnus archives and dan & phil <3
i'm from england
my spotify is 'figflower' and: Here are my byler playlists!!
i never used to write analysis on film but thx byler tumblr because i've been missing out
if you were wondering, my favourite characters from stranger things are (in this order): will, mike, hopper and el <3 okay see ya
MY ANALYSES:
(i will update these as i make them. my more massive analyses are highlighted in blue)
ANALYSES I'M MOST PROUD OF:
A little ST5 theory
This theoretical model of relationships + ST couples
Mike and Will and El cannot be replaced by a different gender - they are tied to a queer narrative
All my Airport Scene Analyses
Blue and Yellow theory is completely canon
Will is not getting a new love interest in S5
Season 3 ending scene full analysis
Mike and the theme of promises
OTHER:
We have been heterobaited far more than queerbaited
Insane Loverslakegate proof
Mike's treatment of El's powers vs. Will's powers
The difference between Byler's interruption trope and Mileven's
Common Romantic Tropes used with Byler
The D&D Substitute scene is Mike questioning his sexuality
Byler + Reciprocal Looks of Love
The existence of a Love Triangle proves Byler endgame
The Painting Lie is Chekhov's Gun
'The Will Voice' isn't a thing Bylers made up
The original S3 ending script reveals inner thoughts
Mike's lack of attraction to women other than El
Purposeful blocking analysis
Purposeful music choices and music titles
Will's understanding of Mike makes the audience root for Byler
Mike has to be wrong about needing to love El
Elmike breakup vs Byler fight contrast
Phonegate canon or not canon? analysis
Mike's bedroom detailed analysis
How Mike treats El's letters vs. Will's art
Mike's conversation with El in the grocery store is queer coded
Byler parallels with other canon ships
Answering a mileven ask part 2: electric boogaloo
Answering a mileven ask part 1
Mike's self-sabotaging avoidance to incriminate himself
Silly queer coding jokes
The M&M Scene
Will's 'I'm not gonna fall in love' is a bigger proof than you think
Confirmation that Mike jumping into the quarry was about Will
Milkvan's conflict, Byler, and the concept of understanding
Byler and the insane amount of Closet Imagery
Season 1 Mike is extremely queer-coded
What if Mike's gay from the beginning of S5 like Will in S4?
You're not delusional: What I noticed when I wasn't a byler
Thinking about the monologue…
Mike is clearly thinking about Will in the Snow Ball scene
Light is symbolic for truth = byler endgame
MY FICS:
My AO3 Account: miwiheroes
vibrant days (caution to the breeze) - 15,204 words
Mike and Will's relationship has been secret for 2 months. Neither of them want to bring it up, but things build and build until it becomes more of a burden than just a little mutual understanding. Will's growing up (and getting drunk) and it's impossible for Mike to stay in the same place forever, with words always on the tip of his tongue.
aka mike and will are hiding their relationship and avoid talking about hard subjects
is my timing that flawed? - 14,621 words
In the aftermath of a harrowing escape from the Upside Down, Mike and Will grapple with physical and emotional wounds. Faced with Will's new plan and doubt of what's real and what's not, Mike must confront reality and something that he had never been able to truly control.
aka wound cleaning fic + a devastating cliffhanger + Will not knowing what's real and what's not
it's rotten work (not to me. not if it's you) - 15,919 words
Ten years after everything, and Will hasn't been able to shake a debilitating fear of anything medical-related. So when the only option and smart thing to do is get a blood test from the hospital, Mike is sure to take the time to be there for him.
aka will needs a blood test but has a phobia of needles and mike takes time off work to support him
what you really want - 46,456 words
aka a s5 speculatory mike wheeler-centric fic about his internalised homophobia and a lot of moments where he's not so clever about his feelings with will
our hearts were singing - 13,724 words (dnf)
aka karen invites mike and will over for christmas, but mike still hasn't told his whole family about his relationship, even after a year of them definitely not-so-platonically living together. maybe it's time.
you can't help but become the sun - 16,267 words
aka mike offers to be will's reference, they talk about mike's self-esteem issues, and more shenanigans with paint ensue
stay with me a while - 9,515 words
aka mike confessed to will to save the world, but will wasn't conscious enough to say it back. when he wakes the next morning, they have a lot to talk about.
life used to be so hard - 5,697 words (incomplete)
A collection of drabbles and short one-shots that tell a non-chronological story about Mike and Will's life after the UD. Stay tuned to put the pieces together and figure out a full story <3 Further explanation is in the notes of the first instalment.
the boy with the thorn in his side - 53,566 words
aka mike figures out his sexuality in the worst way possible, but as always, will is there to help. in more ways than one.
how could i be blind to it? - 16,082 words
aka holly's missing, and her friends are determined to find her and bring her home. one person in her friend group in particular is more passionate than the others about finding her, and soon mike finds out why that is. and why he felt so different about will to his other friends when he was a kid.
MY BYLER EDIT COMP ON YOUTUBE
Have fun! And if you don't ship byler ur allowed to interact but if you want to hate on it, please don't interact! I'll just delete any hate because I personally think there is no space for homophobia or negativity on my page.
You'll also find 0 byler doubt here. I don't want to worry people. So ily <3
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