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I have absolutely no fucking clue what to say so I'm just gonna explain the idea here
This is some art I made of Sae's cognition of Akechi! I made him a card dealer since detectives give prosecutors evidence. The cardboard crown is supposed to represent Akechi's fame and reputation. How unstable and fragile it is and how fake his behavior feels a lot of the time he's on TV. With the little good job star one might get as a child for doing something simple stuck on, plus his little A logo on his briefcase for fun.
I had fun with this piece since there's no cannon cognition
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Ill-advised trust exercises
(psst! hey! my commissions are open!)
#persona 5#goro akechi#ren amamiya#shuake#akeshu#akira kurusu#y'know this could be like a palace situation or something#idk who'd be the shadow and who'd be the cognition but can you see the vision
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I’ve been doing some stream of consciousness thoughts re: Akechi and I think my final opinion on that whole situation is just… it sucks.
Like I’m not going to say “woe is he” or anything because boy, what are you doing. What the hell are you doing. You doomed yourself!!! Because of your own stupid pride!!! Akechi.
But I’m not going to say “cool motive still murder” either because. Can you imagine. Being that lonely and that hungry for anything resembling affection and pride in your person that you’d shatter yourself into pieces just to find a shard that they like best because you’ve grown up being told again and again that you are unwanted and unloveable as you are. Fundamentally. And all you have is this singular drive that makes you feel worse and worse about who you actually are inside so you double down on your fake image because at least fickle fame is better than nothing and it’s all you’re going to get at this point, but at the same time this drive is also the one thing you feel you’ve had any power to determine or enact, and you did it all yourself when the world expected nothing of value from you, so yeah, of course you’d pursue it harder to the point of violently self-destructing - only for that all to get wrenched away with “you never fooled me and I was just puppeteering you all along and I never needed you”, pulling the rug out from under your vengeful purpose, your autonomous image, and your starved core desire, all at once. And then your asshole dad’s twisted headspace image of you shoots you point blank.
He dooms himself because he thought he was already doomed. Caught up in a cycle of cruelty to both himself and others, that he saw no point in trying to escape from, and didn’t want to, because it would mean relinquishing the (it turns out) quite fragile image he’d painstakingly built up. He’s a product of his environment, which led to him making god-awful choices, which in turn trapped him in a worse environment. How many people have died here or become grievously injured as a result of it all.
What do I even do with this. It just all around sucks.
#storyrambles#yeah sorry I’m probably not going to shut up about akechi for awhile.#p5 writers really said here’s a scene in which so many things will happen all at once. anyways. moving on#and I’m still here like WAITWAITWAIT just hold on a minute!!!#tbh I think they shouldn’t have dropped it all at once… things were foreshadowed nicely but I just kind of wish everything to do with#akechi wasn’t just in like. two scenes. I think he should’ve been more of a presence in shido’s palace#would’ve made the ‘yeah I don’t actually need you’ so much worse#or maybe set things up with his cognitive self somehow? idk. just wish it wasn’t dumped on us all at once#though I guess it kind of made the audience feel like the thieves and joker would’ve.#confused on how to feel. upset and shocked. frustrated. etc.#story plays persona 5#p5r#goro akechi
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Coming soon to a Tumblr near you, a webcomic about a teenage ENFP navigating the day to day perils of highschool and life in general. While the world only sees the outside, this time, we get to see what's going on inside.
Introducing! The Mind Palace!
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A cognitive functions comic inspired by shows like Inside Out, Sanders Sides, and @cognitivedoodles comic!
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Persona 5 Singular Incorrect Quotes #16
(Akechi filling in for Joker as "Temporary Leader")
(Akechi to the rest of the Phantom Thieves)
Akechi: Alright, listen up you little shits.
Akechi: Not you Yoshizawa-san. You’re an angel and we’re thrilled you’re here.
#persona 5 royal#persona 5#incorrect quotes#goro akechi#phantom thieves#sumire yoshizawa#kasumi yoshizawa#persona 5 crow#shinanigans#humor#i'm surrounded by idiots#tired dad#pray for Goro's sanity#how did these idiots survive five cognitive palaces#and a cognitive subway#how are they still alive#Goro feels like he's in charge of eight toddlers#and not in an endearing way#persona fandom#playing favorites
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cognitive maruki from francisque's palace 👍👍👍
#cognitive maruki my beloved#i got so attached to him man i should post him more#im gonna use francisque's tag for him also since he's part of his palace#francisque beauchêne#lord maruki#<- that's what we call him. that's his name#persona 5#takuto maruki#persona 5 oc#<- maybe???? i guess????#persona 5 royal spoilers#persona 5 spoilers
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cognitive nyarlathotep starts shapeshifting into the thieves' parents to psych them out and akechi's preparing himself to keep his cool when nyarly shifts to shido's face but then nyarly turns into his mom instead
#keetext#p5 suou au#cognitive nyarlys base form in the palace is false kashihara bc juns cognition whatever#also idk if he'd turn into yusukes mom or madarame to psych yusuke out
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Drinks!
#eggs can art#persona 5 spoilers#persona 5 royal spoilers#persona#persona 5#persona 5 royal#p5#p5r#royal trio#kasumi yoshizawa#sumire yoshizawa#joker persona 5#ren amamiya#akira kurusu#goro akechi#damn akechi how come atlus only lets you have ONE name#uh I think it would be kinda funny if Maruki’s palace had a lotta snacks in it just littered everywhere#like in the stealable shit#like ik the apple imagery is obvious but the “I have snacks!’’ thing being something he thought would work so bad it makes a lasting#impression on his cognition is funny to me#also I just love drawing characters having snacks together#shout out to royal trio I did all of 3rd sem with exclusively them#(Adam Kadmon forced me to have a fourth so shhh you don’t see the cat)
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No one NO ONE is out here cockblocking themself like XW. You thought his greatest skill was political scheming? No, sorry, you were wrong. His biggest skill is sabotaging his own romance. He starts by convincing his lady love that she's an irritating political ally AT BEST and at worst, is a threat he'd kill as easily as swatting a mosquito. Every time he's kind to her or helps her, has MUST end the interaction with a nasty comment and a death threat. Then he moves on to alienating her father, even though they are political allies, so that her family will definitely be against any kind match. He's doing all this on purpose, while also trying to romance Ning-er.
#story of kunning palace#brother the cognitive dissonance has me reeling#the miracle is i still ship it#because normally this kind of behavior would have me sick of the character (not to mention the romance)#i think it helps that my favorite thing about ning-er is that she's a stone cold bitch a lot of the time#so they match
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preliminary akechi palace au thoughts!
goro akechi. tokyo. reality television show.
upon entering his palace, you find yourself on the set of a fusion reality/game show, and are greeted by one of akechi's shadows, the hero prince. he is bright and always smiling, fluctuating in age but generally either around nine or fifteen. sometimes, he will briefly excuse himself so a member of the television crew can give him a new face with which to replace the current one, obscuring the nothingness underneath. emotional distress, especially anger and embarrassment, will cause his face to crack like a porcelain doll.
the hero prince is the star of the show. he is good at everything, and everyone loves him. he's the audience favorite! he wins every challenge on the show, and will swear it isn't scripted - he's just that good! really!
it's impossible to make much progress, let alone find the treasure, during this first visit. you're stuck on the set, and you can play televised games against akechi and the other contestants, but akechi will always win and his demeanor will never shift. he is popular, he is perfect, he is loved. everything is about him. there are cameras everywhere, eyes everywhere.
to proceed, you have to let his real self know that you know he isn't perfect, that everything is an act. and the next time you enter, the facade will have cracked. the hero prince will follow you instead of guiding you this time, and he's obviously being controlled by puppet strings. his face will crack much more often, and he'll ask for attention and validation a lot.
you like me, right? hey, look at this! one time, we played a game, and the way i won was so smart, listen to me! you like me, right? do you love me? do you enjoy my company? am i bothering you?
if you give him enough validation, the palace will begin to repair itself and lock you out of further progress again. if you ignore him, he will become increasingly desperate, and the palace will become more hostile, with more high-level shadows appearing. if you tell him you don't like him, he will attack you then and there, but retreat if it seems like he's losing, and will not interact with you again. if you participate in challenges this time, a cognition of joker will be playing as well, and he will have essentially taken akechi's place. he'll always win, everyone loves him, he's wonderful and perfect to an almost cartoonish degree. but he'll be extremely nice to akechi no matter what, even as the other competitors begin to laugh and make fun of him if you play multiple games. pictures, statues, posters, and the like of akechi will have been replaced by joker as well.
eventually, you might be able to find your way backstage. here, you can see the scripts, the teleprompters, the rigging - how everything about akechi is fake. everything is scripted, his victories are choreographed. you can hear the crew members bad mouthing him, calling him worthless and stupid and ugly, both generally and in very specific and incredibly personal ways. no one actually wants him there. some will even talk about wanting to hurt or kill him. the cameras and eyes will become more apparent and unsettling, this time obviously not part of the controlled environment of the tv crew.
aaaand that's all i have for now! :D
#justice || akechi#justice || headcanons#i don't have a tag for this au yet hmmm gotta think of one!#this palace is also like. intrinsically pre-engine room and joker's cognition is obviously not there if goro hasn't met him yet#his vice could be wrath or envy or pride all three of them work with his distortion although the wrath doesn't show up until deeper in
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I really hope my brain automates this process one day cause right now the only way I can remember the difference between 上 and 下 is by remembering wolfram calls his mom 母上 and that one of the authors of tactics is 木下さくら. it's an incredibly slow mental process but it gets the job done I suppose
#literally my mind palace has to zoom in on the cover of the japanese tactics volumes i own to remember 下 it's so embarrassing#hopefully one day I'll get enough practice that i can cut out the Weeb Middleman who currently makes all my cognitive processes possible#but! we must honor the Weeb Middleman for giving me the focus needed to make learning possible in the first place!#anyway this makes me think I'll get further in my studying if i try and contextualize more of the vocab I'm learning#so I'll have to think on that
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Some JokerPalace AU! art
Kinda wanted a movie poster vibe to this one. Ngl, been making more art for this au than I have writing for it-
None the less, enjoy
#persona 5#art#akechi goro#goro akechi#persona 5 akechi#persona 5 royal#mishima persona 5#persona 5 mishima#yuuki mishima#cognitive!mishima#palace cognition#joker x mishima x akechi#joker palace au#joker x mishima#joker x akechi
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Honestly would love to try writing again but I don't think I would post it anywhere.
#i actually think its because of my mutuals putting out banger fics lately i've been kinda getting the itch to try it myself#i actually wrote two small pieces on here ages ago (if you remember them you the real mvp) and they were like. fine ig#but idk i wanna try it again#if i did post it would be on tumblr only tbh#i have a very specific scenario for captain au i want to write out#captain au's ultimate goal is a comic but comics take too much time and energy and i don't have a lot of energy atm#but there's a scene in hatanaka's palace that i want to write out really badly#especially after playing royal again recently#it would be the scene where the thieves encounter hatanaka's cognition of riku#i think cognitive selves are a little underutilized in the game post the second palace so i kinda wanted to go a little crazy with it#but we'll see lol i have very little experience writing so idk how confident i'd be in posting it#idk why im making this post even lol ig i just feel like talking#this blog is in a sense my diary lmao#hope y'all are having a nice day anyway. its cold here.
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The reason I think Black Mask Crow will be a separate unit from Prince Crow
In P5R Akechi plays differently after he drops the Detective Prince facade, it’s not just a cosmetic change. Loki is a separate Persona from Robin Hood, he has a new all-out attack, his attitude has changed (which would likely translate into a different highlight attack in terms of P5X gameplay), etc. This would make him a lot more complicated than the average P5X unit. That’s extra effort for a character that as far as we know isn’t going to properly appear.
It would a a lot simpler and easier to just make the two sides of Akechi into two different units. And as a bonus, this means that you can get fans who want him to pull for two versions instead of one.
Even accounting for costume changes it’s probably easier to program it so that if you buy a skin for one version it applies to both. Or maybe they’ll just make you buy them twice (this is a money-hungry gacha game after all.)
Of course this all assumes that Black Mask Akechi will be in the game at all, which as you pointed out is not guaranteed. ATLUS has been weird about promoting him in the past because they apparently care deeply about spoilers.
In reference to this post!
Fair enough! I do agree Black Mask is more elaborate than just cosmetic changes, so you may have a point that he just makes more sense to be separate instead. I think my biggest reason for suggesting maybe he’d be cosmetic is that otherwise, it’d be possible to have (technically) two Akechi teammates at once? But, considering that they are just cognitive copies, maybe that isn’t actually as wild as it sounds, haha!
#submission#theories#goro akechi#two akechis in one place isn't actually that out there anyway I suppose. there is the cognitive akechi in shido's palace after all
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we always give Ryuji the palace n while thats always a hit, why dont we ever give one to Ryuji's mom??? gimme Ryuji havin to fight with his love for his mom, his need to keep her safe, and his duty as a son and phantom thief to see this through to the end and make her better but hurt in the process
like...mmm the character development....
#masky says#ryuji sakamoto#persona 5 royal#i want ryuji's mom (aoi) to get a goddamn palace#and i will not be SHY about it anymore#idk why but in my head she also has a castle-#-but much more regal and elegant then Kamoshida's. think genuine queen#ryuji's a lil cognitive baby version of himself cause hes her lil baby boy#sort of a fragile lil puppet boy who keeps changing shape to be who his mom needs#goes from baby to teen to prince to whatever she needs#the rest of the staff are shadows in fact outside of ryuji and her ex-husband Aoi doesnt have a lot of cognitions#maybe a few people at work she hangs out with but Aoi's a busy woman she doesnt have a lot of friends#i think Ryuji's dad here would be merely a skeleton in the gallows#and much like Futaba's palace you wouldnt really need to fight Ryuji's mom-#-but rather the cognition of her husband that keeps haunting her#yeah haunted royal castle is an aesthetic...#ghost boy ryuji tryin to get the others to help the 'lady of the house'
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we're winning btw
#bobtalk#p5rpcposting#thank you mods. hehe ^_^#if i get far enough & record it i might make some gifs of the joker showtimes or smth using that outfit.love wins#also see:me going out of my way for minor dialogue like safe room convos.#a lot of them are recaps like this (hes just explaining shadows vs p/ersonas vs cognitions) but shrug.#shoutout also to the mod that lets u keep ur costumes on for cutscenes :)#<-also means no panther outfit outside of like portraits and 2d cutscenes lmao#just did some mementos today but i love this game guys. lol. too bad its my least fav palace coming up.what ever
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