#our underland

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I'm so normal about him I collapsed while drawing this

Oh other random doodles because I felt like it

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The isolated queen, Bucks (now with new colouring style!)

As always, lore below read more!!!

It has been a long time since the loss of Saydie, a long time since Hunar left, a long time since she actively ruled. Now the royal guard make the rules, the royal lab runs without supervision, something that probably affects Snowden is there too. At the end of new home, near the barrier, is a wooden cabin. A few fast growing trees and stay away signs surround the cabin where the queen resides. The queen spends her days chopping wood, taking prepared meals left outside of the area and depositing and spare wood for anyone to take, everything timed so she doesn't interact with anyone.

Only 6 have dared trespass on her space, all 6 meeting the same fate, their lingering souls the only light in the dark of the barrier. While she has access to 6 wishes, she uses none of them, believing herself to be happiest as she is.

Note that unlike in Undertale, she has only had one child and the child is this version of Chara, Flowey is something different here.

She acts much like her typical Wonderland self but with the killing of others and her own issues already, she doesn't hold back when Iggy approaches.

The outcome is different depending on the route:

Neutral/Pacifist - A brutal fight for survival, her axe is deadly and even if he has intent to fight back, can't do a lot. Regardless of if Iggy stops her by dodging or by force (and by stops, more like causes her to stagger for a moment), a fun little flower comes from behind and takes his own stab at Bucks, killing her near instantly. Flowey then takes the souls for himself which is for another post

Murder - Without giving her a moment to see someone is even in the area, Iggy delivers a brutal attack, ending the fight before it begins. He takes Buck's axe, leading right to the ending.

True pacifist - Before Bucks is able to attack, Hunar steps in, managing to get Bucks to drop the axe and for the first time in a long, long time, take a breath and stop. Despite the seriousness of the scene, the rest of the main characters still break in and have a funny scene before Flowey returns.

[sailingseals]

Okkk... SSooo.. Uhhhhh found more doodles that i havent showed here yet i think.. :3 WELP UHH I NEVER PLANNED TO SHOW SO MUCH hsijdijx

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IMAGINE how loud Ripred snores. He weighs next to 700 lbs. Like. HOW does anyone sleep on quests?

[cordycepsbian]

putting our two favorite Giant Bug Media together, for our health. gregor and boots are a lot farther from home than usual...

[thesweetnessofspring]

The part where the cockroaches are worshipping/honoring Boots because she *checks notes* played with them, offered them dinner, sang a song with her name for them in it, and differentiated Temp from the other bugs in the crowd.

Underlanders, what were you doing that that's all it took for them to worship a toddler and you can't even get them to be on your side in a war? No wonder they were playing Switzerland, y'all are terrible, stuck-up people.

[overandunderland]

Taking Over the Tumblr for a few hours lol.

Food Communism

Owen felt a sudden knock against his hand, and his his plum left his grasp, flying into the air.

“Hey!” Owen cried, reaching out instinctively, but it was snatched out of the air by Aiden with practiced ease.

Owen glared at the Archer who held the plum with a smug expression. He reached to snatch it out of Aiden's hand, but he simply held it up, out of his reach. He even raised on the tips of his toes, but Aiden simply moved his arm, a light amused chuckle escaping his lips.

“There's your problem, You think you can just take what you want?” Owen growled, his frustration nearly boiling over.

Aiden’s gaze bore into Owen's, unwavering. Instead of giving the plum back, he turned it slowly, deliberately avoiding the spot where Owen had bitten. He brought the fruit to his lips, pausing just long enough for the moment to annoy him. With a slow, deliberate bite, Aiden’s teeth sank into the plum, the squelching sound of the bite filling the air.

Owen let out an involuntary “urk” noise, a mixture of discomfort and something more complex knotting in his stomach. Aiden’s eyes never left his, an almost challenging intensity in them as he chewed. His lips glistened with juice, which he wiped away with the back of his hand in a gesture that unsettled him.

“No, just whatever belongs to you, apparently.” Aiden replied, his voice low and edged with a dangerous calm.

[cutter-kirby]

thinking about my tuc idea where between prophecy of bane and curse of the warmbloods ares finds twitchtip on one of his trips to the labyrinth and they now live together in ares' cave and bond over their shared outcast status and thinking gregor is the coolest and they're besties now

[camcorderrevival]

- underland, robert macfarlane

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Can't call it a doodle but not rlly an art work either since it was made on one lawyer but here!

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Let's keep Our Underland going!

Got some art of Genzou and Cecil

Lore stuff below the read more

Looking at the pair, Genzou is not much different outside of the colour of his clothes, Cecil is looking mighty different though! As expected by this pair, Genzou is the joker (I will not be drawing him in joker makeup at this time) and Cecil is the straight (still gay) man. They call themselves brothers from different mothers because they are clearly not related.

The idea with Cecil is that at a costume party, Cecil wore a costume, the head of the royal guard complimented the look and he hasn't taken it off since, British people are just built different when it comes to the cold. For the symbol on his armour, as Papyrus had the Starman logo, I put in the first British game logo I could think of, the Free Radical logo. I also matched the colour scheme to his more... Black and white look.

I imagine that the tattered... Item around Cecil's neck was found by Genzou and he jokes that he had to fight a giant frog for it (he found it around New Home, pre-tattered). Cecil seems to have more energy since starting to wear it but that may have been the attention from the head of the royal guard.

They fit the same roles in the story as Undertale, Genzou watching Iggy and Cecil being... Well as upbeat and positive as he can be. Neither of the two want to actually hurt Iggy or take his wish.

One random thing is that Cecil has a collection of bones, he finds them around waterfall, not sure why there's so many bones around there!

For fighting, I think Cecil uses his collection of bones as well as a pocket watch, his cold stare turning the soul an icey blue and making it fall down. Much like in Undertale, losing to him causes Iggy to become captured as he plans to hand Iggy to the head of the royal guard. On the murder route, he pleads with Iggy that he can turn things around and will refuse to fight to add to the violence.

Given how fighting sans goes, I expect Genzou to take a similar but different approach. Not warping spacetime or anything, he still dodges though. His attacks are more brute force, using his fists and screwdriver to fight with, maybe even stealing Iggy's weapon to use against him.

[sailingseals]

Hihi.. I reallyreally wanna draw something for the Our Underland AU.. But you know.. I dont even know what to draw sooo have an Iggy who has landed ontop of strawberries kdjdjx..

Our Underland Au from @colourprinter :3..

[applesandpavenders]

I love his hair. I love the blood. I love how young he looks, helps me better picture him because he is like 12 or something absurd. Love his clothing design. Love how he’s dual wielding. Love his dagger. Love his expression and the cuts on his face. Love his scars with the sucker marks. Love everything about this :)

Rager boy

[our-ensemble]

haiii question,,,, sorry for being kinda dumb here but what would be the point of sending emails to hapiele? the story is written already and akatsuki redebuted (???) so what Will they do then? would they just take back the things that happened in the event? sorry again for the bother! i dont go to twt or social media that much so im lost,,,

Thank you for asking, and this isn't a dumb question at all. Of course, contacting HappyElements has been quite the undertaking, so it's only natural to want to know what we should expect. This is a bit lengthy since I wanted to put as much perspective as possible, and as always, I do not mind if others wish to add to this.

The most important thing to acknowledge is that this is an unprecedented scenario, so we're making estimates about how HappyElements will respond. At best, we hope that HappyElements complies with the requests made in the emails and nothing less, with these requests being a) the removal of Ibuki from AKATSUKI since this plays into the existing discrimination and Japanization of Ryukyuans and b) the careful consideration of how Indigenous characters are written going forward. Other additional goals may be added at individual discretion, but in relation to AKATSUKI and Ibuki, this is our main focus.

There is a chance that Enstars can edit or change the story. For example, in Izumi's event, "One Drop * A Specially Chosen Mad Party in UNDERLAND", fans raised concerns about how Izumi and Leo's backstory was mischaracterized in the story, and the line was later changed. However, when it comes to AKATSUKI and Ibuki, we should acknowledge that our concern is with the story as a whole, not a few lines, and so this is not likely. Should HappyElements decide to edit the story, they would likely be attempts to soften the blows that they dealt - but especially for a subject matter like this, it most certainly does not change the fact that the blow is still being dealt.

Another hope is that, even if it does not change AKATSUKI's event, it will push HappyElements to be more considerate in the future with regards to discrimination and characterization. We know that Enstars has been able to change its trajectory with how it approaches topics. For instance, Arashi's earliest stories contained both homophobic and transphobic stereotypes (specifically, she had many stereotypes associated with gay men, which is why the earliest translations of !-era stories tend to use he/him pronouns exclusively. At the time, her gender was not explained.) However, as years passed, the quality of her stories has noticeably improved, with a greater emphasis on her relationship with her gender. Hopefully, pressure from fans will encourage HappyElements to consider the racist, anti-Indigenous message that its pushing, and reevaluate how to approach Ibuki and other marginalized characters.

Some fans are also taking the angle of focusing on mischaracterization as a sort of "foot-in-the-door" technique. Again, as was the case with Izumi, if we can argue that certain things are out-of-character and that the continuous mischaracterization will be a threat to HappyElements' profits, then we might be able to use that momentum to target the racism in the story, since for AKATSUKI, the mischaracterization has been done to facilitate the discrimination that we see, and thus is not wholly separate from the issue. (Though on that note, fans have been asked to emphasize the treatment of Ibuki, since we must not treat occassional mischaracterization as comparable to active discrimination rooted in prejudices that continue to affect Ryukyuans in the present.)

At the same time, we must acknowledge that HappyElements has not made any efforts of note regarding other concerns raised by fans. Most relevantly, the event "Answer * Matrix of Stars Drawn Towards One Another" contains racist, anti-Indigenous sentiments in its depiction of the Amagi village. Instead of taking inspiration from Ainu culture as has been the case with the Amagis thus far, they made the Ainu village a sci-fi setting. Japanese imperialism has worked tirelessly to erase the culture of the Ainu in order to assimilate them. By making the Amagi village less culturally rooted and more fantastical, Enstars erases the presence of Ainu culture from their world - likely because it wasn't deemed interesting enough, since Enstars does value its shock factor - which is insensitive to the plight that the Ainu face to this day.

With all this in mind, we have to remind ourselves that this situation is still developing. The reaction to fans' emails has been mixed in the past, and the response to concerns of discrimination especially has been disappointing. Though, we also need to acknowledge that this is arguably the strongest, most concentrated reaction of the fans towards HappyElements, and we cannot allow them to intimidate us, nor can we allow them to forget that they are enabling dangerous anti-Ryukyuan sentiments that are not without real-life consequence.

Lastly, as I personally see it... even if "nothing" happens, I still ask that fans continue to pressure HappyElements. If HappyElements cannot treat marginalized people with respect, then at the minimum we should do the opposite and show marginalized fans that we stand with them. As I've mentioned time and time again, what we have seen in Enstars is reflective of real-life prejudices that are actively harming people. Even if HappyElements' mind does not change, other people observing the situation may reevaluate their own biases, and we can counteract whatever harms could occur as a result of HappyElements' lack of care.

[c-kiddo]

Read annihilation because of you, loved it!

Any more book recommendations?

aw glad you liked it :D

the rest of the series if you liked annihilation of course (tho its not quite as neatly well told they are good and i rly liked them as well. some rly rly good scenes especially the kind of whole run-up to the end of authority and a bunch of stuff in acceptance) . . others:

split tooth - tanya tagaq (heavy but very good, also nice illustration) into thin air & into the wild - jon krakauer (i liked both a lot) jonny appleseed - joshua whitehead (loved this sm) little blue encyclopedia (for vivian) - hazel jane plante (weird and lovely and caring. made me cry) underland - robert macfarlane (i feel like this goes with the weird fascination with abandoned and underground strange places thats in Annihilation but its nonfiction. instead of the tower its salt mines) comet in moominland - tove jansson (moominpappa at sea is one of my other favourites but this is the first novel. first book is technically moomins and the great flood but comet is rly good) the living mountain - nan shepherd (love anything appreciating mountains like this. i love the cairngorms too) our wives under the sea - julia armfield (this is pretty similar in vibes to annihilation, just the domestic came-home-wrong thing instead of travelling into the place that changes you, and the deep sea instead of swampland area x.. i have to assume the author read annihilation bc its v similar energy. i did like it a lot. leah is so me fr)

[marigoldwriter]

Wonderland: Places we haven't seen, Unknown locations and Relating different media.

(I haven't read the book, so if you finish reading this and want to add something that's in the book and I don't know, please comment)

If there's one thing I know we can't do when it comes to the Wonderland of the Descendants universe, it's rely on the description from the 1951 film.

In the official description on the website Fandom in Disney Wiki, Wonderland is described as: "It is an imaginary land created from a dream a young girl named Alice experiences. Wonderland is a world without any form of logic, inhabited by fantastical creatures, anthropomorphic animals, and a slew of colorful characters. The fearsome Queen of Hearts rules the land."

So, originally, Wonderland wasn't even a place of its own, but rather the creation of a little girl's dream.

And it's exactly here that we establish that the Wonderland 1951 film and the Wonderland we know aren't the same. Pretty obvious, right?

But still, some things from the 1951 Wonderland need to be considered. I think we'll come back to that along the way.

Now, all that's left for us is Wonderland from the 2015 film. Oh, I love that film, it was because I rewatched it that I decided to write this, anyway.

In the official description on the website Fandom in Disney Wiki, Wonderland is described as: "It is a nonsensical realm populated by humans, talking animals and plants, and other magical beings. Laws of physics don't always make sense in Underland."

And there's this difference between the Wonderland of 1951 and the one of 2015, the name of Wonderland isn't even Wonderland for the citizens there, "In Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland, Underland is true name for the world Alice Kingsleigh once referred to as "Wonderland", but it is revealed that she misheard the name as "Wonderland" when she was a child."

If we focus on the details, the entrance to the Rabbit Hole is in the middle of a huge, healthy tree in the middle of a forest in Descendants, but in the 2015 film, it's on a wealthy family's estate — "This entrance is located on the Ascot family property, in a rabbit hole in the ground by a tree nearby the mansion. If someone falls in the hole, it will lead them to the Round Hall in Underland. The hole is stuffed with furniture of many sizes, from small table lamps, a bed, and even a piano; some furniture is positioned on the walls of the hole, while others are just floating in midair."

So what happened to the Ascot Family? I mean, they were assholes, but anyway, what happened to them? Did they move after Auradon was built? Or, Idk, Bridget uses a different Rabbit Hole, maybe.

In the official page on the website Fandom in Disney Wiki, it's said that: "Underland is a far more nonsensical world than the one Alice remembered, and it has a solid geography, divided between many regions, including Marmoreal (southeast), Crims (center north), Witzend (west), Iplam (center west), Queast (east), Snud (south), and the Outlands (far west). The Crimson Sea is situated directly north of Underland."

The 2015 Wonderland is much richer in information, so let's ask a few questions. The questions here are:

Where's the Castle of Hearts located in Descendants? It's in Crims, It's in Witzend, childhood home of the two Queens, it's near or far from the Crimson Sea?

If Bridget, Queen of Hearts, is referred as "Your Imperial Majesty", it means that all the other regions of Wonderland were conquered at some point and united into a single Empire/Kingdom. How?

What happened to Mirana (the White Queen)? She was killed, she fled to Auradon, what was her fate?

What about Marmoreal, and the White Queen's servants and subjects?

What about all the other regions? We don't hear about them, so what happened?

Did our famous Red Queen, Iracebeth, ever exist? She is an ancient Queen from a bygone era?

How the hell did they manage to unite all the kingdoms? Obviously through brute force but how? That would have taken decades, at most a century, so how do we have the Wonderland Empire/Kingdom perfectly united in 2025?!

What happened to the Red Queen? If two tyrannical forces that have the same objective face each other and one of them loses, we obviously already know who it was.

Where was the Kingdom of Hearts at this time before they simply became the largest and only kingdom in Wonderland?

Since I don't have an answer to these questions yet, I'll delve into some regions of Underland, and at the same time I will make some notes:

First, we have the Marmoreal Region, important places that we have located here are:

The White Queen's Castle

"This castle is where Queen Mirana lives, along with her court and army. Its architecture seems to be inspired by the pieces and the board of a chess game, and it seems to be entirely built of marble, with a predominant white color. The castle is surrounded by tall waterfalls, and large gardens."

I would really like to know what happened to Marmoreal, It was a kingdom completely against the Red Queen, so they were the ones who always fought against these type of tyranny, despite both being related by blood (Mirana and Iracebeth were sisters, so), could the two kingdoms have united against the Kingdom of Hearts at some point? Very unlikely.

And if we take some facts from Lewis Carroll's books, there were three kingdoms: The White, the Red, and the of Hearts. So what happened to the rulers of these two kingdoms? Because one of them definitely survived and emerged victorious.

Tarrant Hightopp's (Mad Hatter) House

"Located near the White Queen's castle, the house of Tarrant Hightopp rests atop a cliff surrounded by waterfalls and green mountains. The entire house is modeled to resemble a top hat."

This just makes me think that Maddox's surename is actually Hightopp. And that he probably really grew up in a house like that.

But now, seriously, Maddox is an adult, while Redell is a teenager, so he and Bridget must be pretty close in age, so I wonder, when does Alice in Wonderland take place in the Descendants universe? It still doesn't make sense, but it's Wonderland anyway.

Next we have the Crims Region, important places that we have located here are:

Salazen Grum

"Salazen Grum is the castle and former home of Queen Iracebeth, who lived there with her court, servants, and army. The castle seems to be entirely built from stone, with red as a predominant color. It had gardens with many red roses and hedges cut into the shape of the Red Queen herself. After the Red Queen's reign ended, she was banished to the Outlands, and the castle fell to ruin."

I would really like to know if all these kingdoms were ruled by people who were related. Mirana and Iracebeth were sisters, but what if the ruler of Hearts was also related by blood to them?

Well, if they were related by blood, they are no longer so, because of the amount of centuries that must have passed (no one can convince me that Iracebeth and Mirana didn't live longer than a normal human being), in any case, they are now extremely distant relatives.

Salazen Grum seems to be the place that the Queen of Hearts would take to renovate and transform into her own castle, although I disagree with that, because it seems that the Castle of Hearts is located in Marmoreal, due to the trees and the abundant nature around.

House of the March Hare

"Located in the Tulgey Wood, the House of the March Hare is a windmill in ruins. This place was once surrounded by lush trees and beautiful flowers, but is now a gloomy wasteland. This is where Tarrant Hightopp, Thackery Earwicket, Mallymkun, and Chessur enjoy each others company by drinking tea and eating cakes. Alice Kingsleigh visited this place when she first came to Underland when she was a child, and again when she was a young adult."

In my defense, I know that the March Hare House is mentioned or referenced in the book "Descendants: Beyond the Isle of the Lost", and it's probably more renovated, but it is worth mentioning anyway.

Gummer Slough/The Chess Board

"On the Frabjous Day, this large chess board served as the battle ground for the final clash between the armies of the White and Red Queens'. It was also here where Alice Kingsleigh slayed the Jabberwocky."

THIS PLACE DEFINITELY EXISTS IN WONDERLAND DESCENDANTS, NOBODY CAN CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE!!

No one can convince me that the War of the Roses were not fought right here. Any beginnings of conflict must be fought in this place, it's a cultural rule of Wonderland and no one can convince me otherwise.

Third, we have the Witzend Region, this region was introduced in the second film.

Witzend Town

"This town was ruled by Iracebeth and Mirana's parents, King Oleron and Queen Elsemere. The region was populated mostly by humans, though some talking animals lived here as well. It was the original home of the Mad hatter himself, Tarrant Hightopp, his family, and their hat shop. The entire town and surrounding forest was burned to the ground by the Jabberwocky during the Horunvendush Day (the day the Red Queen took control of Underland), and is currently abandoned."

Well, for the most part, this city is populated by humans, so many core characters can unfold here. It could be around here that the Castle of Hearts could be located, since many humans are seen in the "Red" music video.

Witzend Castle

"This castle was located in the Witzend Town and the home of King Oleron and Queen Elsemere and the childhood home of the princesses Iracebeth and Mirana."

As I said, this could be where the Castle of Hearts is located, it is similar, but I can't say, the times are different perhaps, but the same place.

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There are many questions, the geography of Descendants Wonderland is not very explicit, there are some places mentioned in the book, such as:

Rabbit Hole.

The Queen of Heart's Castle and royal plaza.

Maddox Hatter's room and workshop.

Tulgey Wood.

March Hare's Residence.

White Rabbit's House.

Wonderland High.

Bramble Bay.

Looking Glass Mountain.

Vorpal Mountain.

Most of them reference both the 1951 and 2015 films, so we can assume a lot. The real question is how all the kingdoms were united into one, and where the other rulers are, or rather, what happened to them, since they probably either fled or were killed by the ruler of the Kingdom of Hearts.

And also how we can understand this better. If anyone is willing to talk about this for hours, or make a world map of what Wonderland looks like today, with Bridget as the current Queen, I'm available!

Was it long? It was, but I wanted to write something like this because I was really intrigued by what Wonderland looks like from above, and the geography and locales of this peculiar place, since we spend more time in Auradon than anywhere else in all the Descendants movies.

Heart-shaped kisses for those of you who read until the end, thanks my dears ~ 💋