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marigoldwriter · 4 months ago

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Wonderland: Places we haven't seen, Unknown locations and Relating different media.

(I haven't read the book, so if you finish reading this and want to add something that's in the book and I don't know, please comment)

If there's one thing I know we can't do when it comes to the Wonderland of the Descendants universe, it's rely on the description from the 1951 film.

In the official description on the website Fandom in Disney Wiki, Wonderland is described as: "It is an imaginary land created from a dream a young girl named Alice experiences. Wonderland is a world without any form of logic, inhabited by fantastical creatures, anthropomorphic animals, and a slew of colorful characters. The fearsome Queen of Hearts rules the land."

So, originally, Wonderland wasn't even a place of its own, but rather the creation of a little girl's dream.

And it's exactly here that we establish that the Wonderland 1951 film and the Wonderland we know aren't the same. Pretty obvious, right?

But still, some things from the 1951 Wonderland need to be considered. I think we'll come back to that along the way.

Now, all that's left for us is Wonderland from the 2015 film. Oh, I love that film, it was because I rewatched it that I decided to write this, anyway.

In the official description on the website Fandom in Disney Wiki, Wonderland is described as: "It is a nonsensical realm populated by humans, talking animals and plants, and other magical beings. Laws of physics don't always make sense in Underland."

And there's this difference between the Wonderland of 1951 and the one of 2015, the name of Wonderland isn't even Wonderland for the citizens there, "In Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland, Underland is true name for the world Alice Kingsleigh once referred to as "Wonderland", but it is revealed that she misheard the name as "Wonderland" when she was a child."

If we focus on the details, the entrance to the Rabbit Hole is in the middle of a huge, healthy tree in the middle of a forest in Descendants, but in the 2015 film, it's on a wealthy family's estate — "This entrance is located on the Ascot family property, in a rabbit hole in the ground by a tree nearby the mansion. If someone falls in the hole, it will lead them to the Round Hall in Underland. The hole is stuffed with furniture of many sizes, from small table lamps, a bed, and even a piano; some furniture is positioned on the walls of the hole, while others are just floating in midair."

So what happened to the Ascot Family? I mean, they were assholes, but anyway, what happened to them? Did they move after Auradon was built? Or, Idk, Bridget uses a different Rabbit Hole, maybe.

In the official page on the website Fandom in Disney Wiki, it's said that: "Underland is a far more nonsensical world than the one Alice remembered, and it has a solid geography, divided between many regions, including Marmoreal (southeast), Crims (center north), Witzend (west), Iplam (center west), Queast (east), Snud (south), and the Outlands (far west). The Crimson Sea is situated directly north of Underland."

The 2015 Wonderland is much richer in information, so let's ask a few questions. The questions here are:

Where's the Castle of Hearts located in Descendants? It's in Crims, It's in Witzend, childhood home of the two Queens, it's near or far from the Crimson Sea?

If Bridget, Queen of Hearts, is referred as "Your Imperial Majesty", it means that all the other regions of Wonderland were conquered at some point and united into a single Empire/Kingdom. How?

What happened to Mirana (the White Queen)? She was killed, she fled to Auradon, what was her fate?

What about Marmoreal, and the White Queen's servants and subjects?

What about all the other regions? We don't hear about them, so what happened?

Did our famous Red Queen, Iracebeth, ever exist? She is an ancient Queen from a bygone era?

How the hell did they manage to unite all the kingdoms? Obviously through brute force but how? That would have taken decades, at most a century, so how do we have the Wonderland Empire/Kingdom perfectly united in 2025?!

What happened to the Red Queen? If two tyrannical forces that have the same objective face each other and one of them loses, we obviously already know who it was.

Where was the Kingdom of Hearts at this time before they simply became the largest and only kingdom in Wonderland?

Since I don't have an answer to these questions yet, I'll delve into some regions of Underland, and at the same time I will make some notes:

First, we have the Marmoreal Region, important places that we have located here are:

The White Queen's Castle

"This castle is where Queen Mirana lives, along with her court and army. Its architecture seems to be inspired by the pieces and the board of a chess game, and it seems to be entirely built of marble, with a predominant white color. The castle is surrounded by tall waterfalls, and large gardens."

I would really like to know what happened to Marmoreal, It was a kingdom completely against the Red Queen, so they were the ones who always fought against these type of tyranny, despite both being related by blood (Mirana and Iracebeth were sisters, so), could the two kingdoms have united against the Kingdom of Hearts at some point? Very unlikely.

And if we take some facts from Lewis Carroll's books, there were three kingdoms: The White, the Red, and the of Hearts. So what happened to the rulers of these two kingdoms? Because one of them definitely survived and emerged victorious.

Tarrant Hightopp's (Mad Hatter) House

"Located near the White Queen's castle, the house of Tarrant Hightopp rests atop a cliff surrounded by waterfalls and green mountains. The entire house is modeled to resemble a top hat."

This just makes me think that Maddox's surename is actually Hightopp. And that he probably really grew up in a house like that.

But now, seriously, Maddox is an adult, while Redell is a teenager, so he and Bridget must be pretty close in age, so I wonder, when does Alice in Wonderland take place in the Descendants universe? It still doesn't make sense, but it's Wonderland anyway.

Next we have the Crims Region, important places that we have located here are:

Salazen Grum

"Salazen Grum is the castle and former home of Queen Iracebeth, who lived there with her court, servants, and army. The castle seems to be entirely built from stone, with red as a predominant color. It had gardens with many red roses and hedges cut into the shape of the Red Queen herself. After the Red Queen's reign ended, she was banished to the Outlands, and the castle fell to ruin."

I would really like to know if all these kingdoms were ruled by people who were related. Mirana and Iracebeth were sisters, but what if the ruler of Hearts was also related by blood to them?

Well, if they were related by blood, they are no longer so, because of the amount of centuries that must have passed (no one can convince me that Iracebeth and Mirana didn't live longer than a normal human being), in any case, they are now extremely distant relatives.

Salazen Grum seems to be the place that the Queen of Hearts would take to renovate and transform into her own castle, although I disagree with that, because it seems that the Castle of Hearts is located in Marmoreal, due to the trees and the abundant nature around.

House of the March Hare

"Located in the Tulgey Wood, the House of the March Hare is a windmill in ruins. This place was once surrounded by lush trees and beautiful flowers, but is now a gloomy wasteland. This is where Tarrant Hightopp, Thackery Earwicket, Mallymkun, and Chessur enjoy each others company by drinking tea and eating cakes. Alice Kingsleigh visited this place when she first came to Underland when she was a child, and again when she was a young adult."

In my defense, I know that the March Hare House is mentioned or referenced in the book "Descendants: Beyond the Isle of the Lost", and it's probably more renovated, but it is worth mentioning anyway.

Gummer Slough/The Chess Board

"On the Frabjous Day, this large chess board served as the battle ground for the final clash between the armies of the White and Red Queens'. It was also here where Alice Kingsleigh slayed the Jabberwocky."

THIS PLACE DEFINITELY EXISTS IN WONDERLAND DESCENDANTS, NOBODY CAN CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE!!

No one can convince me that the War of the Roses were not fought right here. Any beginnings of conflict must be fought in this place, it's a cultural rule of Wonderland and no one can convince me otherwise.

Third, we have the Witzend Region, this region was introduced in the second film.

Witzend Town

"This town was ruled by Iracebeth and Mirana's parents, King Oleron and Queen Elsemere. The region was populated mostly by humans, though some talking animals lived here as well. It was the original home of the Mad hatter himself, Tarrant Hightopp, his family, and their hat shop. The entire town and surrounding forest was burned to the ground by the Jabberwocky during the Horunvendush Day (the day the Red Queen took control of Underland), and is currently abandoned."

Well, for the most part, this city is populated by humans, so many core characters can unfold here. It could be around here that the Castle of Hearts could be located, since many humans are seen in the "Red" music video.

Witzend Castle

"This castle was located in the Witzend Town and the home of King Oleron and Queen Elsemere and the childhood home of the princesses Iracebeth and Mirana."

As I said, this could be where the Castle of Hearts is located, it is similar, but I can't say, the times are different perhaps, but the same place.

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There are many questions, the geography of Descendants Wonderland is not very explicit, there are some places mentioned in the book, such as:

Rabbit Hole.

The Queen of Heart's Castle and royal plaza.

Maddox Hatter's room and workshop.

Tulgey Wood.

March Hare's Residence.

White Rabbit's House.

Wonderland High.

Bramble Bay.

Looking Glass Mountain.

Vorpal Mountain.

Most of them reference both the 1951 and 2015 films, so we can assume a lot. The real question is how all the kingdoms were united into one, and where the other rulers are, or rather, what happened to them, since they probably either fled or were killed by the ruler of the Kingdom of Hearts.

And also how we can understand this better. If anyone is willing to talk about this for hours, or make a world map of what Wonderland looks like today, with Bridget as the current Queen, I'm available!

Was it long? It was, but I wanted to write something like this because I was really intrigued by what Wonderland looks like from above, and the geography and locales of this peculiar place, since we spend more time in Auradon than anywhere else in all the Descendants movies.

Heart-shaped kisses for those of you who read until the end, thanks my dears ~ 💋

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